"strange inheritance," and remember -- you can't take it with you. us. melissa: bulls & bears starts right now. david: vice president mike pence rallying support for the president's new nafta deal, or u.s. mca and promising canadian prime minister justin trudeau that the u.s. mca will get passed this summer and the washington post now reporting the president has put a plan in motion to force nancy pelosi's hand hi, everybody this is all bulls & bears" an action packed day, christina partsinevelos, oh , no we have jonas max ferris, adam lashinsky and gary b. smith good to see you, gang thank you for joining us. let's go first to edward lawrence with the very latest on what is happening here, edward?

>> reporter: david the white house taking criticism from all sides about the plan to impose a 5% tariff to begin with on everything that is imported from mexico, criticism from mexico, from democrats, republicans, trade groups, as well as republican allies, of this white house, and also a business is upset about this. in fact a spokesperson for the u.s. chamber of commerce says they are among a group of businesses looking to file a lawsuit over this policy. >> they're using some emergency powers and we're still frankly trying to understand the legal basis that can be invoked. >> reporter: and acting white house chief of staff mick mulvaney says the president is using the international emergency economic powers act. that is a federal law. last night i talked to judge andrew napolitano who says that treaties supercede federal law so there's some question as to whether this is legal under the current nafta rules in place. late today the white house released this statement saying,

"the president is taking action within his authority to protect our national security industry should be communication with their counterparts in mexico to encourage the mexican government to work with the administration to stave off the dangerous crisis at our southern border as quickly as possible." the white house adding they will know if mexico is following through if the flow of illegal immigrants slow down or stop at the southern border. now house speaker nancy pelosi released a statement today saying "yet again the president is showing chaos over the border instead of delivering solutions for the american workers and american consumers and the mexican foreign minister is on a plane right now coming to washington d.c.." he's already talked by phone with white house advisor jared kushner and secretary of state mike pompeo however when he arrives in washington it's unclear who he will be able to talk within person. those two are actually out of the country, as well as chief bolton. david: i think they just needed a presence inside the beltway as

quickly as possible and that's what's going on here edward thank you very much. we're going to be continuing to follow this developing story, but gang, the question is what do you make of this move by president trump? >> i've got to tell you, i'm for more or less the china tariffs. i think that's a bad actor. we're going to hopefully, the whole steel/aluminum thing never made any sense to me. this i understand what the president is saying it's more of a security case with mexico than there is with steel for example, but we have this plan to fix nafta, the u.s. mca and that's a plan that keeps people in mexico because it raises wages in mexico. it's not a plan actually that increases corporate profits, so trump has a good plan. we don't want to mess that up because that's going to do more. the actual policing in mexico which is crooked is never going to actually do a whole lot to keep people out more than they are already doing. >> from a market standpoint, david i'm confused and baffled by this whole thing. you lift the steel and aluminum tariffs in preparation for the

passage of u.s. mca. the markets like that and they say the president is really going to focus on china and take that on and be really solid about it and fix some of the other problems we're having with our trade issues and then you go and threaten to potentially put this tariff on, which would impact a lot of the same goods. that's why the autos were down today because of steel and aluminum, so the market was down substantially today it was the worst may that we've had since 2010, it was a bad month. you saw the nasdac down 8% the dow is down 6.5% and investors right now running to safety. you see the yield on the 10 year note going lower lower lower the question is when is it going to stop and a lot of investors are saying if it continues to stay at a point where we have a yield curve inversion, that's what triggers a recession. david: so jackie, here is my problem with your analysis. >> you're being too darn rational and thank you for that because i'm saying like i agree with your assessment completely. my issue, david we talked about

there's a legal aspect to this that jackie is talking about a financial and markets aspect to this. i feel like it's just an example of president trump using extreme ly bad manners, and you're going to tell me oh, that's so naive so no, i don't think so. you don't try to punish our trading partner to try to achieve some sort of policy goal with something else, because it's rude, and again, that may seem quaint. we're not supposed to be rude. we're the united states of america. there's other ways of getting these things done. >> well adam, we've been rude for the, since 1776. >> [laughter] >> foreigners to the north and the south, i mean, rude is in our dna my friend. that said, i want to get back to you made the comment about jackie being rational and let me just take that one step further. let's just go right to the 25%

maximum tariff that trump said. the question becomes, it's just really math. this would knock about a half a percent off our gdp, about $666 charge, if it's all passed to the consumer, which it most likely will, but for every working american out there, so the question becomes are you willing to pay $666 each to solve this immigration problem? i don't know the answer to that. i don't know if it can be solved for $666, or if it's completely unsolvable. remember, a lot of these illegal immigrants, they aren't even coming from mexico. they're coming from other parts of central america. i don't know how much mexico can do about it but that's the math in this equation. david: guys forgive me for interrupting but we have somebody waiting for us from washington already the president 's political rivals are trying to make hay with all of

this here is what 2020 democrat candidate beto o'rourke tweeted out today. "texas imported $107 billion in goods from mexico last year. our farmers, manufactures and businesses sent $110 billion in goods to mexico. if we don't stop these new tariffs, the tax on texas alone would be $27 billion, but no state would be spared." let's bring in california congressman tom mcclintock, who serves on the house immigration subcommittee and he's here to respond so common do we need the threat of tariffs to get mexico in line on immigration? >> well tariffs are never a good idea. they always harm the country that imposes them. they're not paid by mexico. they're paid by american consumers. obviously, you have to weigh that against the harm to the economy that the tariffs will do to the harm that illegal immigration is doing to our country. david: how do you weigh that? >> well, that's the hard thing to do. i would much prefer him to go

after remittance, that's about 2 % of mexico's gdp and it doesn't hurt us and would harm them dramatically, but ultimately they don't go into effect until june 10 and it's very clear the president looks at tariffs as a diplomatic kudul e, and he's trying to get mexico's attention and they have been complicit in the importation of these caravans from central america and maybe this gets their attention. if so it's a good move, but it's never a good idea to take a hostage you don't intend to shoot. david: that's quite a way of putting it. >> he's done so much good for the economy i'd hate to see him ruin that with a trade war, with china, or with tariffs against mexico. >> congressman this is adam lashinsky with fortune magazine up north of where i assume you must be today. do you think that linkage of these different policy goals is a good idea, in other words you're focused on immigration that's a policy goal, to use a

different policy trade, as a threat in this hostage situation if you could clarify i'm not sure what you meant on remittances i'm interested to know more about that. >> well the transfers of the mexico citizens are in this country, are making to mexico is about $37 billion a year, about 2% of mexico's gdp. i believe the president has authority to go after those. >> what do you mean? stop it from happening you mean? >> yes. >> tax them. that's a pretty cool move you're suggesting. david: no not stopping adam taxing them 2%. >> i see. >> well either way, the point is the president does need to get mexico's attention and does need mexico's cooperation in stopping these caravans that they're now allowing to go through their country. >> and any means that the president's disposal is what he's going to use because he is pledged to protect our country

and there's nothing more fundamental to that pledge than protecting our borders. david: gary b., go ahead. >> yeah, no, congressman i was going to try to pin you down, let me play devils advocate for a second, that we need these immigrants illegal or not. they fill out much of the farm labor, particularly in the southwest. just hold on a second. they contribute more, studies have shown, in revenue via social security taxes they say would never collect state and local taxes, sales taxes, than they ever give back, and a lot would say they are a net plus to this economy. i'm curious your thoughts and why you think immigration is a problem. >> we had 100,000 that we apprehended just this month. how many do you need? and the fact of that is -- >> but what harm? david: just a second, go ahead congressman. >> they're overwhelming our schools, our hospitals, our

prisons of the net cost to state and local governments i've seen estimated as high as $100 billion a year and that's the net cost. that's actually when you factor in the contributions they're making to the economy, versus the costs to state and local governments of sustaining a highly-dependent and unskilled population and we've got 100,000 of them that we're apprehending coming across-the-boarder and the rule of thumb is for every one we cash there are probably two moving across-the-boarder un uneffected. 500,000 apprehensions since the beginning of the year is the entire population of atlanta so how many workers do you need. >> congressman let me ask you this it's all about timing right when it comes to policy and i'm curious why you think the president chose now to come out with this threat on mexico. i know he's called himself the tariff man so i'd take him seriously on that and i know he's very passionate about the crisis at the border and trying t do something about it. do you think he feels like he's

run up against a brick wall in terms of dealing with the democrats and this is the only way to try to inspect change? >> well that's exactly it. and he's not getting the cooperation of congress because of nancy pelosi controlling the house, so he's reaching for any tool he can find in his limited tool box, to try to secure our borders before we're completely overwhelmed. >> congressman, jonas ferris. first of all i feel like to jackie's point the president is playing the card he has available to him. are there other cards like is there a talk of a national id, national sales tax as a way to tax illegal immigrants? is there something else besides a wall and tariffs that we can use for this problem, other than that and also just can effect the u.s. mca. >> yeah, i support the u.s. mca and i don't see how this directly effects its chances of passage in the house.

the democrats have been dragging their feet anyway maybe it'll get them to move forward since it is a freer trade path than what we have now and moves us away from tariffs, not toward them, but bottom line is the president has limited ability to deal with this problem. he's not getting cooperation from congress and the answer to your question is yes there are lots of things that we could be doing to secure our borders that require the cooperation of congress. the problem is he's not getting it so he's got to use the limited authority that he has from the executive branch to deal with this and he's done that very well. david: congressman let me ask you a final question here. the mexicans have been making out over the past couple of weeks like they were going to help us at the border trying to stem the flow. it appears that something dramatically different happened. that is as recently as last week , they appeared to be helping. we'd heard from the white house that they were doing so. was that just a faint to make us believe they were doing something when they have no intention of following through?

>> i can't read minds but it certainly looks that way at the progression of events. when he first threatened tariffs they were cooperative for a week or two. the cooperation wayneed so now he's declared a symposium but they're not taking effect until june 10 so the mexican government has to look and say okay is he bluffing or not how lucky do we feel they are? >> well there is time and they really have gone to washington pretty quickly after this was announced by the president so let's hope it's resolved. congressman thank you very much for coming in have a great weekend we appreciate it. >> my pleasure. david: well the most unlikely of allies you could possibly imagine democratic congresswoman answer and ted cruz working together, but seeing eye to eye. details coming next.

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david: believe it or not bipartisanship is not totally dead. democratic congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez and republican senator ted cruz striking a deal together on twitter, to take on the popular trend of lawmakers becoming

lobbyists, jackie is your story how did this impossible union come together? >> it's a great story that started on twitter yesterday and started with a study aoc cited the fact that 60% of former legislators had taken jobs as lobbyists and she responded that survey with this tweet. she said if you are a member of congress you shouldn't be allowed to turn right around and leverage your service for a lobbyist check. i don't think it should be legal at all to become a corporate lobbyist if you served in congress at minimum there should be a long wait period. well senator cruz saw that tweet he responded, he said here is something i don't say often. on this point i agree with aoc, indeed i've long called for a lifetime ban on former members of congress becoming lobbyists. the swamp would hate it but perhaps a chance for some bipartisan cooperation, and others weighed in as well as a matter of fact representative chip roy republican from texas, he got in and said let's do this and then you had the democrat

from hawaii who wants in too so there's a lot of support and i'll just add there is a federal act that says you should register if you want to become a lobbyist you have this waiting period for two years. a lot of people get around it and do shadow lobbying they aren't necessarily in the forefront but the argument is they are using their connection to influence policy, and aoc and ted cruz they don't like it. >> okay, they're right and i'm assuming ted cruz isn't doing this to be just near aoc's lyme tight but i don't think it'll go anywhere because there's too many people on both sides to make a good living doing this after this relatively low paid stint in government and low hours. also i don't see how it's going to stop they become board members of companies they shouldn't be on anyway either, just so many paths to influence it. >> you're all missing the story

here which is that ted cruz follows aoc's twitter feed. this is shady. >> who doesn't today? >> well i don't but look, this isn't shocking. i didn't know that about ted cruz that he's long advocated this but it doesn't shock me in the least, he's a bit of an ideal it's on some issues, she is on a few issues here they are together on this issue. >> well let me chime in here. first of all on the issue itself i don't even see why it's a problem. congressmen don't get paid a lot of money and to take their knowledge and convert it into dollars, that's the american way i mean, i never found a problem with an -- you seen the stats that's what they do and that's their knowledge base. now jonas made a funny aside but i think there's a lot of truth to it. ted cruz is trying to hitch on

to aoc's lime light and aoc is trying to gain gravitas by hitching on to ted cruz and jonas is rightist it's going new where. >> they make a lot of money doing it and you could say, you know, they're not influencing policy per se but at the same time we don't tell them they have to sit on the sidelines or not benefit or profit but the fact they held the highest position in the land. david: adam before you chime in isn't term limits a better way of dealing with all of this the fact that because these guys who just go on and on and then become lobbyists if everybody's term limited they wouldn't have this same value after their career in politics. >> david we have term limits in the assembly in the legislature in california. it's a terrible idea for two reasons these people don't get the experience they need, to actually legislate. david: i don't want them to have too much experience. >> but the people should decide

who their representatives are going to be. david: we've got to leave it at that. new shots fired in the trade war with china the chinese making a threat against u.s. companies as new chinese tariffs against u.s. goods kick in. so how far will this go?

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chinese businesses. communist party tabloid actually suggested google and the chip designer rm holdings could be on the list so how far will all of this go? >> well david it could go pretty far. you're only a half step away from black listed firms to black listed countries. you have two very proud countries in the united states and china, it would not be a surprise at all if they say they're completely banning u.s. products and vice versa. now could each country live without their imports/exports? absolutely look already southeast, south korea, other parts of southeast asia are picking up what we can't import from china. we're only about 10%, they're only about 10% of our exports. my fear is more than economic though in that these thins start to become personal and you have two very large, the two largest economies in the world with equal size, not equal size, but

almost equal power in military. that's my fear down the road. it sounds farfetched. >> i don't think it is. i absolutely agree with you on this, gary. it's not like the chinese were going to take this lying down, but those people out there who are looking at the stock market right now saying oh, it's trade tensions that are taking us down and still hoping for a deal this is the start of a full blown trade war. we know the president will see president xi at the g20 and they won't strike a deal there. maybe they could exchange things and move the ball forward a little bit but this will take a long time to iron itself out and in the meantime they are getting hurt and we're getting hurt. for example, just one example and there is so many we're looking today at his ability, the president saying he wants to add ethanol back in to the gas for the summer so he's trying to help the corn farmers in a lot of trouble but at the same time, we're going to have a smog

problem on our hands. >> i agree with what both of you said and what does success look like so if we succeed in this trade war, it's going to have a massive disruption on the global supply chain. now you know that sounds fancy, but it is going to be extremely expensive to move factories from one country to another, for manufactures that have -- david: but it's already happening. our imports from china are down 14%. our imports from vietnam up 40% from taiwan up 21% from south korea up 18% so already the supply chains are moving go ahead. >> no but david gary made a good point. yes but that's at the margins that's not a wholesale change of the global supply chain. it's a little bit of tweeking at the front end of this thing. david: 24%, that's more than tweeking. >> well it's a trade war not a trade pillow fight and it's probably going to get -- david: that's a good line.

>> i want to highlight that we're not talking about adding a black list. they are increasing the black list. china already doesn't allow facebook in china and this is years ago when i was in china, why can't i get google? they already do this so they are going to do more of it in fact use this excuse with us with our fight against huawei, as a reason and the difference between huawei in google is technically our government can sometimes get information and spy through our companies but you don't get huawei shares like the government controls that through various unions and stuff and it's very bizarre. >> but jonas? >> yes. >> if i could just add to that, so looking back and looking forward, what was the right way to deal with this? was provoking the chinese publicly to try to embarrass them the right way to deal with this? i don't think so and i think we're seeing effects of that now david: but nobody has dealt with it before gary b. that's the point this is the first administrations really dealt with these issues in my

lifetime. >> yeah, but you know, you get right back to it and along adams line what does a win look like. this all started over basically intellectual property. that's rarely talked about now, and what part of the problem is we can't solve the ip theft. that has to be done in a company by company basis, and now weave escalated into this tit-for-tat thing and my concern, you know, and jackie kind of alluded to, this snowball is much bigger than it really should be. david: but adam you tweaked my interest adam. you said it could be solved, how >> well intellectual property, gary is a libertarian so only companies can deal with that, governments can't. there could be or could have been and still could be both bilateral and global conversations to convince through diplomacy the chinese to do the right thing not because it's the right thing but because

it's good for them. david: talk about diplomacy we've got breaking news on that front with regard to mexico. the mexican embassy confirming to our white house correspondent edward lawrence that mexican's foreign minister will arrive later tonight inside the beltway mexico is trying to get meetings next week with administration officials a lot of whom are out of the city and some out of the country right now. still no details on which u.s. officials he will meet with , to discuss president trump 's tariff threat. we will continue to watch this developing story for you. meanwhile president trump using the threat of tariffs to spur mexico into combating the crisis at our southern border, but will it work? we're going to be asking the national border patrol council's vice president, that's next.

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immigrants in the el paso sector on wednesday it's the largest single group to ever be apprehended at one-time at one place. vice president of the national border patrol council joins us now so art, do you think these tariffs or at least the threat of them were going to help stem the flow at the border? >> i think you need to hit people where it counts and that's in their pocketbook. when you're seeing large groups as you just mentioned a group of over 1,000 that came through, these individuals are coming through mexico, they are spending money in mexico. the smugglers are spending money for these individuals they are buying supplies, amongst other things the cartels groups are making money. there's money being made and these people need to be held accountable, and if mexico is allowing this, you have to hold them accountable. i'm going to tell you a quick story just recently in el paso i was speaking to a group of cuban s that made their way through and they were very factual and they said when we

come through mexico we get detained by mexican authorities, and they say as long as you're traveling through and your intentions are not to stay here they will leave you alone. now what they did say and mention was mexico authorities told them we need to arrest and deport some of you because we need to show those numbers. that's a problem. >> jonas ferris. you know about mexico than i did but how do you get a country where the police are a little crooked, they had trouble controlling drug cartels and let them get into the avocado business for a while like what could they in theory do and if there's anything i know it's a crooked culture but do you have to bribe them like what in theory will be the result of this and what would work and make it pull off? >> well obviously our hope is that. that when the government is getting hit in the pocketbook, they turnaround and they come after these criminal organizations, and they get tough on them and at the same

time try to stop some of this happening. because one of the things we need to worry about is when you're seeing thousands that are entering the country and obviously, they are reporting that group of over 1,000, but that's not even close to what's been coming across the last several months. all of those individuals you've got to start thinking how many of them are actually getting released into the united states and that's something you need to worry about. we can check them and see if they have criminal history in the u.s. but you can't really tell what crimes they've committed in their own country and now those individuals are being released in our communities and that is something that we seriously need to start looking into. >> hi, art adam lashinsky in california good to see you on the program again. let's play this out. we have a problem with illegal immigration. this is not a new problem we've had it for quite a while. if these tariffs take effect it's going to hurt mexico and the united states and hurt the economy and businesses. play this forward, in your mind for the way that you look at

this issue, where does it end? >> i honestly think the way it ends is mexico starts taking responsibility for these criminals that are coming through their country and the big point to me is they're coming through their country and leaving money there, mexico is making money off of this, but in the end, the people that are suffering is the american public because now they are in our city streets. you have to do something. >> it's not a racial thing people are real quick to pull that racial card and illegal is not a race i've said it many times before. there's a right way to do things and a wrong-way to do things and if we're in the country suffer ing and another country is actually getting more wealth, then there is a problem. >> as david mentioned before representatives coming to washington wanting to meet with leaders here, and even waiting around to do so, do you think they come with their tail between their legs? >> i hate to bring up the crystal ball and try to figure

that out and at the end of the day we have politicians that care about american citizens and we have politicians that don't, and that's what it's all about. people need to realize that all these politicians that are in office were elected by the american public to serve the american people, not to serve someone else. >> gary smith here. i'm going to wait for your response because then i probably have a follow on question. why are most of these illegal immigrants looking to enter the united states? >> when we ask them, their answer is they're looking for a job. when i've asked them some of them have said i already have a job waiting for me. >> okay so let's just stipulate that economics is behind it. how then are tariffs going to prevent someone, look you're at the border, you want a job. you want a better life. i would say that's probably true for most of the immigrants, not all. i understand there's a lot of criminals in there, but how can the effect of a tariff on mexico

prevent someone out there with a family of six or eight looking to better their lives, prevent them, i would be crossing the border, regardless of what happened to tariffs in the united states, if i felt there was a better life for me and my family in mexico. >> the problem is mexico's facilitating them allowing them to continue to their travel so if mexico assumed responsibilities and these individuals that are crossing there illegally if they are enforcing their immigration laws sending them back that would help with the problem. another thing is if they're leaving their country and claiming asylum, and mexico in many cases have given them temporary asylum then why don't you go ahead and do it there. david: i have a very quick final question. sanctuary cities continue to draw a lot of illegal immigrants in the state of washington just signed a statewide sanctuary. the governor signed it the sheriff from politico can,

washington said the governor should be arrested because he's not following the law. do you agree? >> i think that when you create these sanctuary cities what you do is you create a magnet for criminals to come and live in our communities. that's what you do. david: good to see you my friend thank you very much for being here meanwhile bernie supporters going after the dnc and the mainstream media why they think the system is being rigged, yet again. run with us in the unstoppable john deere gator xuv835, because when others take rain checks... we take the wheel. run with us. search "john deere gator" for more. run with us. welcome to seattle. where people are into coffee, tech, and retirement planning. the perfect retirement for me is doing the things that i want to do, not the things i have to do. unlike seattle, less than half of americans participate in their employer retirement plans. so what keeps people

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left. >> dan i went to law school but i've never seen a law that says you have to allocate a certain amount of minutes to each candidate. i think that the sanders argument here is ridiculous but i will ask you this question with so many candidates right now on this stage i think 23 was the last count that i had. i couldn't even recite them all for you if i had to. it is so difficult for people to make informed decisions. shouldn't they be focusing on the media and the democrats and others alike on the front runner , so they could really understand what the platform is. >> well there's plenty of time to focus on everybody. the first democrat detate is not for three more weeks, the first vote is not for eight more months. theoretically they are trying to do a little bit more detail. they are all getting tons of wealth from the press. the problem is bernie is just not getting the attention or really the support he got last time. >> dan, gary smith. good to see you again my friend. >> hi, gary. >> question i think you hit on the important topic that sanders

is not the flavor of the month. that's how the media works, you know it, whatever is going to sell headlines. my concern if i was on the left would be that it doesn't seem like any of these 35 or 40 candidates is the flavor of the month ever again. they are just a buzzless crew out there. do you see any one of these people capturing any kind of attention that trump draws? >> well no and that's the problem. they are very divided. the activists want somebody other than biden. they don't want an old white guy the core voters want biden right now, but that could change between now and certain voting so they are in a bind because they all want to stop trump but they are going to tear each other apart to get there. >> if i could just be pro-media here, dan there's a nuance to what you said the media follows the polls. i would say the polls are a proxy for what people are interested in and that's what the media follows and gary just to correct you.

we don't sell headlines. we typically sell advertising or subscription. >> point well taken. >> what i would say, i mean, that sounds great and all but the media certainly do influence who gets appearances so that's why basically an obscure mayor is getting attention because of the media. >> dan, jonas ferris. >> i don't agree with that at all. >> gary is right it baskin robbins with 31 flavors of vanilla but i would say beto o'rourke supporters can make this case even stronger than this guy sellinging this old billionaires on wall street story but what would you recommend any of these candidates do to make the rest of them disappear in the media like what do they need to have more ideas that doesn't seem to work where would you go with this? >> well you've got to be engaged across platforms.

everybody we're all thinking about old media, and you look, talking earlier in the show about alexandria ocasio-cortez. she's the dominant player and be to tries to deal with. david: dan, in 2016, and bernie support supporters had a lot of evidence to back up their claims they were cheated in certain ways by the democratic national committee. 12% of bernie supporters crossed the line and voted for donald trump. that's how upset they were about the way they were treated. do you think that they have that same kind of animosity and that they might do the same thing this time? >> i think there's definitely a problem there, because they recent built in from last time, so you might even have more of them, willing to cross or the biggest threat for democrats, is just people stay home if they can't get the activists engaged

or the traditional voters engaged, or the bernie people they have a weird combo here to build. david: it's a lot of fun to cover and you'll have a lot of work over the next 19 months thanks for coming in dan good to see you. well hillary clinton made one of the worst cybersecurity mistakes ever, when she used a private e-mail server while she was serve as secretary of state. now that's why news of her latest gig is raising a whole lot of eyebrows wait until you hear about this, coming up. let me ask you something. can the past help you write the future? can you feel calm in the eye of a storm? can you do more with less? can you raise the bar while reducing your footprint? for our 100 years we've been answering the questions of today to meet the energy needs of tomorrow. southern company

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>> hillary clinton is set to serve as a keynote speaker at the 2019 cyber defense summit. the cyber purity company tweeting out the detectives quote detects in response to cyber attacks. as a political figure who defines management of cybersecurity the right person to keynote on cybersecurity. this is exactly the problem, that is why they hired her because they knew that maximum attention was coming in with a lot of money and technology that is not up to snuff with current cybersecurity company. probably a million, they do not

see it being close by people, it is been billed for 17 or half-million dollars on international university. she's a smart woman, a better candidate liberty but this is a week link. >> i don't think we have to be so quite earnest on this one. first of all the 23 democrats in the political parade we could be picking on instead of the last one now. secondly, her e-mail problem has nothing to do with cybersecurity and there's nothing wrong. the secretary of state of the united states talks about the state of national security in the world. >> it is interesting, my daughter actually worked in cybersecurity and i was texting her saying that hillary was on a cyber conference and she's pretty right wing if you will

and she said, heck yeah, and i said winds at and she said because she'd be interested in her perspective, right and wrong and there's such a view between cyber industry and government that she thanks she have an invaluable cup of her contribution regardless. >> hello pat, i want to get cybersecurity advice from her. >> either way. >> first of all she did lie about certain aspects of all the speeches that originally she did it so she could only have one device. that's when she set up a private server for information on the secret information while in fact she had many multiple devices and we now know that to be true. this is somebody who abused american section in cybersecurity. a part of that obama would never

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