a socialistic. why do they think i'm a socialistic, because i thought that the 13 nill score and team america over time was excessive and the celebrations were un sportsman-like so i therefore am a socialist. my name is up, neil it's yours. >> makes sense to me. we've got a lot going on here in this capitalist country, or what's happening at the corner of wall and broad where they try to digest ongoing escalation of violence right now in hong kong, that are going from bad to worse , we'll have more in a minute the president is about to meet with the president of po land. these two have been getting along famously, very conservative, very populist in their approach, very anti- european establishment and the president is about to do something for the polls that is not expected but it could further tic off the european community, a lot more in just a

second to blake burman at the white house with the very latest blake? >> hi there, neil we believe there is going to be an announcement this afternoon as the polish president is set to meet with president trump at the white house, though fox is told that a troop, a troop level of about a thousand or so will be added to the roughly 4,000 or so inside of poland, that will rotate in-n-out so not permanent ly stationed but will be making their way to poland, for quite some time coming in-n-out. the talks about this one have been progressive here the last couple of days, as they met in washington at the pentagon and poland has been pushing the idea of potentially even having a fort trump inside of its country , though we do not have any indications yet, that that will be a part of this announcement. a senior administration official keyed up this potential troop

announcement or potential troop surge by saying the following is these two leaders are set to meet saying "we believe it is going to significantly enhance our military-to-military relationship but also enhance the defense and deterrence posture in europe as it relates and our commitment to nato." speaking of nato, neil as you know, there is one way to get on to the good side of president trump, it is to reach that number right there. to have 2% of gdp going toward defense spending, poland has hit that mark that is the target for nato nations to hit only seven countries though you see the list with the u.s. at the top, have so far reached that level, of poland one of the reasons why the president and president duda have gotten along so well. by the way here in a couple of hours the 2:00 hour neil expect ing a press conference the first we will have had in quite some time, as those two leaders will take to the rose garden. neil: i look forward to your questions. >> hopefully. neil: you get the opportunity thank you my friend blake burman at the white house, meanwhile, so many of you have heard this

before, first of course came news out of foxconn that it might start making phones outside of china just in case, just in case, now nintendo reportedly the latest to say do you know what? we might be doing the same not phones but gaming systems, deirdre bolton has more on the exodus at the new york exchange. reporter: that is right neil so people who have video games, nintendo switch, this is the handheld gaming devices and they are saying listen already manufacturing according to our sources some of our products outside of china, they already have some plans in southeast asia, and the company is saying according to our sources they are ready to move more production out of china, if necessary, and of course the idea here is to escape these 25% tariffs that may be imposed or that will be imposed under normal circumstances at the end of this month. by the way, neil, nintendo is not the only company doing this reportedly google is doing the same and is moving some of the

production of its smart home devices out of china so the beneficiary let's say of china is going to lose jobs. the places that google has some pretty serious plants and manufacturing areas, taiwan and malaysia and again this idea is to avoid paying 25% more either for components or finished products. now foxconn, we know that it assembles a lot of apple iphones , a lot of apple ipads, foxconn, to be clear, has not yet started according to our sources manufacturing and other places other than china, but the company said it has numerous locations around the world, some even in asia, obviously but then some in south america as well. foxconn saying it is completely prepared to distribute the assembly plant if these tariffs continue so neil there you have three big tech companies making bottom line decisions based on the trade between the u.s. and china neil back to you. neil: deirdre thank you very very much you're seeing

president there with the polish president, they're very much joined at the hip on key issues both are conservative and nationalistic if you will very skeptical of climate change and dealing with the chinese and very skeptical of taking on refugees and poland one of the few european powers that said until we have a process in place , we are not going to be placing a lot of those refugees here. they call him, that is president duda, she trump-like here, and how these talks go and what we're looking to do with the polls, especially with the 4,000 rotating troops we have there now and talk that blake burman indicated we could add another thousand to that, and maybe even house them in what would be fort trump if the polish president has his way so we'll watch that very very closely. the fallout from this and particularly with what's happening half a world away, these hong kong riots have you seen this latest stuff? it is getting very very nasty right now, and between tear gas and you name it, this has gotten

an increasingly violent and it's spooking a lot of people, because this is a little more than a week or so after the 30th anniversary and the crackdown chinese authorities had on democracy protesters back then, that they hope doesn't repeat itself, remember that results in the killing of hundreds if not thousands, we still don't know these three decades later how many were killed in that wave of soldier, attacks on those protesters, but that was in china, this is in hong kong, its had a separate but equal sort of a status there , and that is being called into question, the chinese want to allow extradition of hong kong residents for crimes not described so they can haul them to china for punishment and that isn't sitting well with these crowds who are just saying there goes our independence, there goes our separate but equal status and by the way for us, maybe there goes the potential of a trade deal any time soon. they're that joined at the proverbial hip, let's go to the

publisher, and united capital ceo joe duran. joe i'm looking at these kind of developments and thinking well, the likelihood of scoring a deal quickly now is at least complicated. what do you think? >> yes, anything that adds more questions that need to be resolved obviously complicate things, and play into donald trump's hands, into our president's hands frankly because he can then say look this is why we can't do a deal with them and anything that validates his position is helpful to his cause, and i do think clouds the water a little bit more. i think mexico was a distraction which was not helpful getting that off the table allows them to be a little bit more rigid with the chinese. i also think you have to take into account what's happening with the currency because what's happening with their currency going down, they're able to actually offset a lot of the tariff impacts. neil: that's right. >> that shouldn't be ignored. neil: it's funny too rich on

that currency front the president is kind of the side that he doesn't have the same freedoms that his chinese counterpart does so essentially control what would be the federal reserve the way he can control the central bank of china, and rig that currency to get the desired result. this is all the more complicated now, right? >> it's a lot more complicated. the u.s. has by far the economic leverage in this relationship, but of course the differentiator is that president xi is the president for life, and the military stands behind him and the military is not going to be moved, so this is a tense situation. i couldn't agree more with joe. that trump really needs to let go of picking trade fights or spats with europe or mexico or anybody else, from this point forward, because if you believe president trump is the one to manage the relationship with china, he first has to get re-elected and right now he has high disapproval ratings in states he won in 2016 like wisconsin and iowa because of

the fallout hads from the trade war. neil: well there are a lot of other issues that might be with his poll numbers but you raise a good point but kaitlyn what i'm wondering about is the president might have been wise to hold off on these renewing talks because he is very patient about this he might not renew it any time soon and now given what's happening in hong kong, he might have been proven, how is this all going to fall out do you think? >> i think there's two competing factors here. so for china, president xi doesn't want to look like he's giving into trump's demands. he said that he won't do that, and so it's kind of a political factor here but on the other hand as we're watching trouble with china's economy, i mean, if china and the u.s. don't come to some kind of trade agreement then things could get worse economically in china, so those are kind of the two competing factors i think that are going to be at play in the next weeks and months. neil: you know, there are always black swan developments for the

market you reminded me that over the years that and i'm wondering this hong kong thing could be that. all of a sudden out of nowhere china has this new extradition policy that just came out of the blue and all of a sudden, they thought that hong kong residents accept it and obviously, it's proven but this could easily escalate into something. what do you think? >> i think it's quite like, sorry, are you talking to me, neil? neil: i am joe, yes, i apologize >> okay, great i think it's unlikely they will pick this moment to do that. again they have a central- controlled government. they, like our own president, knows how to distract where necessary, if they don't like what's happening on the u.s. front, it's created a distraction here and it's working, and i think they'll resolve it and act like they've done well, and then they'll continue back. they have no reason to move quickly, and so they would

rather wait until the election passes and secondarily they aren't doing anything embarrassing to their leadership so you've got to be very conscience of the fact that we've got to give them a way out as well but i don't think they will move very quickly at all. this is just a distraction. neil: i could remember a lot of people thinking back in 1989 richard that cooler heads would prevail and certainly the chinese authorities wouldn't attack people, and we all know in retrospect that was wrong and i'm beginning to wonder, with leaving trade out of the equation obviously everyone wants to see a good trade deal scored there are bigger worries now. >> well there are bigger worries. china's made no bones about the fact that it wants to reassert itself as the world's leading nation and they've got the 2025 plan to do that, to make to get independence and all of the military technology, all of the key technologies going forward. they are at a very critical juncture right now. it's just that i don't see, is hong kong like the shipping yard

s in the late 1980s? i don't think that there's a mechanism for any kind of a democratic revolution in china, so given the might of the military and that president xi is president for life it is a very dangerous situation right now. neil: well you know the next stage i'm waiting for, kaitlyn, is when they order people to stop assembling in hong kong and they refuse to do so. then, all bets are off because we know from the past that china doesn't take very kindly to disobedience. then what we're discussing, trade is the least of our worries. >> right i think that sounds about right, neil and you know that could be a very stark impact, not only in our economy and china's economy but that could reverberate worldwide so there would be some very interesting consequences to that neil: to put it mildly guys i want to thank you very much. we're still trying to keep on top of these developments in hong kong, protests of which we've not seen for years, remember hong kong enjoys this separate but equal status and it

is a thriving capitalist mecca, that enjoys even more capitalist rights and individual rights than as china remember when the brits handed that over to the chinese back in 1997, with the understanding of that separate but equal policy would continue, and for the better part of 20 years, it did, until now. more after this. termites.

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neil: all right, the president is meeting with his polish counterpart duda in the oval office right now these two have struck up a very close friendship but remember, duda assumed the presidency of poland right before donald trump started running for president so he's been in office now the better part of four years, duda and he's really kind of provided sort of a preview of coming attractions on the european continent if you think about that by echoing some of the things that donald trump himself made famous a more conservative nationalist ic policy of the country, very skeptical about established european rule, this polish president, has stuck it in the eye of the european community saying that it's a club that you've got to think twice about being part of. all also very skeptical, early on, about the chinese doing business with the chinese, the

chinese tried to all but blackburn polish goods, poland didn't really care so this guy gets in their face so a mutual c ompadres of you will on the global stage. the mexican president meanwhile is talking about a planned sale of the government helicopters, to help fund a new immigration plan, so you've got that going on with the polish talks going on a tale of two economies that former homeland security department deputy assistant secretary for public affairs lauren with us right now. so much to get in with you and i appreciate you taking the time. first, on if you will indulge me with the news of the moment the polish talks and what these might portend that we'll beef up our trade ties, beef up our military ties that is i'm sure sending the signal to other potential trading and military partners that, you know, we make friends with those who return the favor, right? >> yeah, i think this

administration is in favor of bilateral trade agreements which definitely reinforce the idea that the relationship is mutually beneficial, and so it's no surprise that the polish president, and president trump would be able to come to accords and strike some agreement because they do see eye to eye and this administration is especially focused on getting what's best for the american people, and you know, it's the america's first policy so any trade agreements and military agreements have to be beneficial to america first and foremost. neil: all right, now i'm switch ing to mexico and you're very patient but we have a lot of news going on simultaneously and the mexican president, you know, might have to start looking for money under the couch cushions here to make good on some of the promises made, or is that their way of saying look , we're going to try to make good on our promises but it's tough. >> yeah, it is tough and what the president is dealing within mexico is a very difficult political situation. it's why they have not, i'm surprised the foreign minister came out and said that they were

seeking to vote on a safe third country agreement because up until now they've been very hesitant to acknowledge that publicly because of the potential political backlash and the need for this to pass through the legislature. neil: that in the past, they've ever embraced, so whose to say they'll make good on it? >> yeah, they may not. it's very tenuous right now. i mean, we need to see how it works out in mexico and that's why president trump has threaten ed additional tariffs if they don't. i mean, it's important to note that we've had a safe third country agreement with canada since 2004 so this wouldn't be uncommon for north america to have these types of things, but what mexico is really seeking to do is they would prefer to have more regional agreements and so spread the increase of asylum seekers and this migration from central america amongst five countries, panama, brazil, amongst others so they want to not only be the sole takers of the central american influx. neil: now the national guard in

mexico is i guess a different secretary than our national guard in that country, it's really meant to combat crime or these soldiers deal with crime and that has been a big top concern of mexican citizens who have seen crime rates soar. now with their side track there's a lot of critics of the mexican president are saying dealing and doing the u.s.' bid ding that's what they're saying at the border. they're worried that crime is going to get sort of like shoved to the side. is that a legitimate concern? >> yeah it is a legitimate concern, because president obera dor came in and was campaigning on decreasing crime that has spiked because of the drug cartel and that's part of the reason he won the election because he's a campaign promise and he only just established the national guard. we think of the national guard in the american sense as the reserves and the military with the state, but he only just established this national guard within this year, and it was a supplement to law enforcement because they don't have a strong

police force in mexico and he wanted to move all of the security away from just the military in the country, so this is a new enforcement agency, that now they're going to be using to deploy to the southern border and a lot of mexican citizens are saying holdup, i thought this was going to be making my life more secure, and his argument is that this will because of the amount of crime and gain activity and smugglers that are coming through the southern border and so he's saying that it's a dual purpose, but you know it is a legitimate political concern there, because he did establish the national guard in order to secure mexican citizens security. neil: so 45 days is the first time we'll check in on this and see what's happening at the border and see if the number of migrants coming here has eased. 90 days is when we'll put the pedal to the medal to make sure it has. then what? >> then, you know, i'm not sure what we'll do next because mexico has been a flighty partner to be sure over the years, and this administration and in previous administration, the u.s. administration, and so

we've been in fits and starts with them, but i will say this has been a really good start to talks what they agreed to so far we've committed to work with them in central america to make sure that they are better security and prosperity within central america, and that's really important to the mexican people, so and in addition to them actually acknowledging for the first time that this is a policy initiative that they are to secure their southern border and regain operational control, so it is a really good start and i think that this will be an ongoing conversation, with the mexican administration and hopefully, we can work together to solve this migration problem. neil: lauren claffey, secretary, very good seeing you thank you for taking the time. >> thank you. neil: we are still focusing on what's going on on hong kong. the president is talking to reporters we'll get the feed of that momentary, when we get this but he's already saying that he's sure hong kong and china will be able to work things out, so that does not appear to be

the case for the time being. we'll talk to senator chuck grassley on these developments, and again, the president dodging a bullet, and republicans hoping that they dodged a bullet by taking him on, using tariffs to get what he wanted, which he did , on trade, with mexico, after this.

neil: it's back and forth that the president is is with reporters at the white house it's going on a while the president while he is with the polish president is saying that he is optimistic we can cut a deal with china, if not the u.s. is going to put tariffs on $325 million worth of additional chinese goods, so he's fighting fire with fire and speaking of fire, that's what's going on right now in hong kong, having nothing to do with trade and everything to do with the crack down that some in hong kong are saying has a ring to it and they're just trying to make sure history doesn't repeat itself and they're upset about the clamp down on the part of

beijing, but it has enormous repercussions on trade. the president of course separately saying he's ready with those tariffs, if necessary republican senate finance committee chairman chuck grassley says just be careful using them, because there is such a thing as separation of powers on this issue. senator always good to have you, thank you. >> you bet i'm glad to be with you. neil: you were one among the first senators to express concern over the president using trade as a lever to get the concessions on border issues that the president got from the mexicans. i guess we avoided a fight back and fourth between yourselves and your republican colleagues and the president on this issue but you're afraid it could come up again? >> well not if mexico does what they said they were going to do and the feeling i get from people in homeland security and other commentaries on it that

it's a very good agreement. it will take a big, big difference. just think putting 6,000 troops on a 500-mile border of mexico doing that at the guatemalan border that's going to do more good than our putting 6,000 troops on our border of 2,000 miles with china and then more importantly than that, it ought to send a real signal to those that think they can get into this country and live in the dark by declaring that they're going to have to wait in mexico now to wait until they're adjudicated in this country and it won't be a cost to our taxpayers, and mexico's going to help with that process, so i think those two things are going to prevent tariffs going on again, and we're going to have a review in 90 days if it isn't working and we see some progress in 90 days then ask me in 90

days about that. neil: well you know then the president will come back senator and say see it works all these guys were worried and demanding that i dial it back, or they were going to try to override an inevitable veto and they were worried about nothing. what do you say? >> well you know how i work for three months to get the president to remove tariffs on aluminum and steel and i don't know why he did it. i don't know whether i have any influence with him or not, but they are off, and so these other tariffs on, i thought we were on a path to get the mexican/ canadian agreement approved and then that kind of stalled it. we're back to square one. i think before the end of the month, the canadian parliament is going to have u.s. mca passed and mexico will before the end of the month and so now the president has not put new tariff s on. he's put the old tariffs off, and it's in the court of the

house of representatives at this point. we've got to get this donald have some success and i think it'll give the president a great deal of credibility dealing with canada. neil: you know, it's not very republican as you pointed out in the past, sir, that you use tariffs as a lever of them being republicans by and large where this president just recoiled that even the use of tariffs, period, but that's changed under this president. this president will say we've gotten some good trade deals as a result. do you agree with that? >> well, only in the case of china. we had a good trade agreement with mexico and canada so what's this about not taking tariffs off on steel and aluminum? so i would have to admit two years ago, i would have said the president is crazy to put tariff s on in china but today, i say that they would not be at the table negotiating, and think of the great success that we've had, assuming we get an agreement along the lines

what we have put an end to steal ing intellectual property, stealing our trade secrets, manipulating their currency, making our companies give up their technology to china, if they're going to do business in china. those are big, big things, and if the president can get them done, then the tariffs were a good tool. the only place i disagree with the president is not using tariffs as a tool. he says i like tariffs. he ought to take a lessen from world war ii that we had high tariffs at the end of that, half the world was in poverty. today with the reduction of tariffs around the world, only 10% of the world's in poverty, free-trade works. it needs to be freer and i agree with the president that it needs to be freer. neil: all right real quickly, sir. you've seen these polls and it's very early you always remind me of that i think you're exactly right but the latest polls show

of the president is trailing joe biden even bernie sanders by double-digits nationally. that could change but in a lot of the states, he moved into the republican column to the democrat column. three out of four of them he trails right now and would not get the electoral votes of 270 he would need. are you surprised that's the case, given the progress he's made on trade, given what's been going on in the economy and the markets that he's not getting more, you know, bang for the buck? >> if you asked the questions based on policy, the president gets much more approval rating like for the economy as an example, but on some other thing , where the president isn't getting approval is that he's too personal in his attacks on other people. if the president would leave personal criticisms out of his tweeting, he would improve his standing dramatically. neil: have you told him that?

>> no, i haven't. and maybe i should. neil: [laughter] >> but i've told the president a lot of things along the lines of the tariffs that he doesn't like. neil: no and you say it, you know you speak your mind and it's something to be admired even if it might now and then get you in the dog house with him but senator always a pleasure. thank you very much. neil: back to hang kong and these protests turning violent, and now, people saying oh, my gosh, could this be where we might be taking leaps here but this recent 30th anniversary of that saga is raising the same concerns here, because this is what out of control looks like, after this. my insurance rates are probably gonna double. but dad, you've got allstate. with accident forgiveness they guarantee your rates won't go up just because of an accident. smart kid. indeed. are you in good hands?

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neil: a tale of two violent incidents on the right of your screen back in 1989 to the left what's happening right now, in hong kong, and some are just praying and hoping desperately that history does not repeat

itself, of course it ended up in the killing of hundreds, and some say maybe thousands but we really don't know for sure, of the democracy protesters there, it's a little bit different in hong kong, where they're just sort of wincing china taking much more control and not treating it as separate but equal country it was when the brits handed it over back in 1997 pushing for extradition and if you have to go to hong kong they ship you off to china for god knows what so it's raising a lot of worries even complicating our trade picture, retired lt. colonel danny davis on what the significance of this will be. what do you think, danny? >> well i think that this is very much a concern, for the international community because we value human rights. we value freedom and democracy and we definitely don't want to see a repeat by any stretch of the imagination and i think that probably a lot of what's going on over there is not just this one issue about the proposed law

which by itself is inflammatory but some things have been building and this is the people of hong kong using their democratic freedoms to just show their display and it's going to be interesting to see how it plays out but the best thing in the united states is to cheer lead on that and say we stand for democracy and the freedom of people and for this legislative issue to work itself out in a fair and equitable way. neil: i worry when the orders go out, clear the area as they did and they weren't clearing the area, i don't wish to repeat that, but you know, they're not clearing any area not that those orders directly go out but they are trying to say go back to their homes and they're fearing that this is a start of a very slippery slope and more china control, and these soldiers aren't, you know, treating with kid gloves. tear gas, and they are going full throttle here. that has all the markings of

something that can get way, way out of control. >> it certainly can and i think though that on the plus side i think because we just had the 30th anniversary and so many people were paying attention to that internationally that china is going to be a lot more careful about how they pursue, per seed here and i think they will probably have a little bit more patience than they did in the past because they saw pretty significant ramifications in 1989 and i don't think they want to repeat that. neil: they got away with it back then. a lot of people complaining, and they were walking a fine line not to alienate this global power to come, so i'm not saying the world looks the other way but china was once again back in the world's good graces even after that. >> it did take a while though. there were pretty good implications, but you know, china is always looking long term, and they're not going to give in unless they absolutely have to and over time it did play itself down and they did

come out the way they wanted it's true. neil: colonel always a pleasure, thank you for your service to this country. thank you very much neil appreciate it. neil: we are awaiting the commander-in-chief right now he's speaking to his polish counterpart and they are talking a military alliance the likes of which we haven't seen in a while actually talk about taking troops away from germany, america and germany and moving them over to poland. it's a little bit more involved than that the president is still taking reporter's questions and commenting as we speak, so one of these pool phrases we like to call him, it's going to be long when we get it. more after this. i switched to liberty mutual, because they let me customize my insurance. and as a fitness junkie, i customize everything, like my bike, and my calves. liberty mutual customizes your car insurance, so you only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪

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neil: all right, the president with the polish president duda. president trump: you never have to say whether or not a person is an american citizen. in poland they say they're either polish or not so i don't want to get you into this battle , but it's ridiculous. i think it's totally ridiculous we would have a census without asking but the supreme court is going to be ruling on it soon and when a census goes out you should find out whether or not and you have the right to ask whether or not somebody is a citizen of the united states. okay, yes, ma'am? reporter: mr. president, are the u.s. troops ready for the

[indiscernible]? president trump: well we're talking about it and it's one of the reasons that we're here. a lot of money is going to be spent on a military facility, a great one and a very good location in poland and actually it'll be spread over a little area, but basically one primary facility, we'll see how it works out we're talking about it right now. reporter: [indiscernible] president trump: i hope not. i'll tell you what we're with everybody and i hope not. i think that russia will treat poland with respect, just like the rest of the world is treating, poland has really built up a great country, you know, they get hurt unfortunately too often, right? too often. they enter in the middle of everything and when bad things happen, it seems that poland is always the first one that's in there and it's unfortunate. no, i hope that russia and poland and germany and everybody is going to get along. that's what i want. i want everybody to get along. [overlapping speakers] reporter:

your reactions to the demonstrations in hong kong is china overplaying its hand? president trump: well the massive demonstrations i looked today and that really is a million people. a lot of types people talk about they had 2,000 people but it was really 1,000 or it was 200, i see it all the time. i see it all the time, but when you look at this demonstration, they said it was a million people. that was a million people. that was as big a demonstration as i've ever seen, so i hope it all works out for china, and for hong kong. reporter: are they sending a message to china with these demonstrations? president trump: i don't know what they're sending them. it's a demonstration they're having. i understand the reason for the demonstration, but i'm sure they will be able to work it out. i hope they are able to work it out with china. reporter: mr. president, [indiscernible]. president trump: say it again? reporter: [indiscernible] president trump: well we're discussing a lot of those elements today. >> [overlapping speakers]

president trump: no because we have great internal polling, there were fake polls released by somebody that is ridiculous. no we are winning in every single state that we pollment we're winning in texas very big, winning in ohio very big, we're winning in florida very big. there were fake polls that were either put out by the corrupt media, for as much of the media and this country unfortunately is corrupt, they have to tell you that mr. president, some of it is excellent but some is very bad. those are fake numbers but you know when you'll see that you'll see that on election day. on election day you'll say it was the same thing, i have the same thing for, i had the same thing for a long period of time, in 2016. i was getting these terrible poll numbers and i didn't see it , because i'd have tremendous crowds and my opponent would have almost nobody and i said i think we're going to win the state of michigan, we did. i think we're going to win the state of wisconsin, pennsylvania , ohio and we won

them all and now i have the same stuff. they're giving out phony polls. no, these are polls that we have that nobody saw we do very little polling because i'm not a huge believer in polling, you go out there and you fight and you don't really need polls. you need ideas more than polls, but we have some internal poll ing, very little, and it's unbelievably strong. the strongest i've ever been, is exactly today. reporter: [indiscernible] president trump: no they're not advisors. it's fake news. you don't understand what i'm saying. those advisors don't exist. they don't exist. it's made up by the newspapers. it's fake news. reporter: mr. president, how will this play out over the next two years? president trump: well i think what the democrats are trying to do because they know they are going to lose the election so they will give this a shot, they just every day they are going to be going more and more after, after, i don't know if you have

this, mr. president but we have people that are totally out of control. it's the only way they think they can win the election so we'll see what happens but at some point, the mueller report spoke. they were very disappointed. it said no collusion and no obstruction and no nothing and matter of fact it said we actually rebuffed your friends from russia, that we actually pushed them back, we rebuffed them so the democrats were very unhappy with the mueller report, so now they're trying to do a do -over or a redo and we're not doing that. we gave them everything. we were the most transparent presidency in history. we gave them everything and you and i we've all had this conversation many times before. there's never been anybody so transparent, gave them 1.5 million documents, we gave them hundreds of people, i gave them lawyers which i didn't have to give, i didn't have to give anybody. we gave them everybody and people that didn't like donald trump, 18 trump haters, 18

democrats, and they were trump haters and they were supporters in some cases of hillary clinton , they made the decision and robert mueller, no fan of donald trump, i'm no fan of his and robert mueller came out with a report that said no collusion, and by the way and led to no obstruction. so now the democrats want to try and win an election, so they just keep it going and i think the american public is not going to stand for it. i'll tell you what the democrats should be doing. they should be working on the border. they should be working on drug pricing, and they should be working on infrastructure where we could get that done very quickly, but they don't have any time to do anything and i think it's going to be a tremendous day for us. it's a year and a half now until the election. i think it's going to be a tremendous day for us. reporter: how was your meeting with president xi at the g20 and also can you update us on on the agreement you have with mexico? president trump: we expect to have a meeting with president xi we're doing very well with

respect to china. we're taking in billions and billions of dollars which we never took in before. the tariffs have been very strong, we have 25% of $250 billion and tremendous money is flowing into our treasury. china is subsidizing those companies so our people are not paying for it. if you look our people are not paying for it. china is subsidizing those companies so that people continue to work and now the problem for china is that a lot of companies are leaving china because they don't want to pay the tariffs, but we're doing very well and i have a feeling that we're going to make a deal with china because i really don't believe that china wants to continue the problem that they really cause themselves because we had a deal done. almost, i would say, all of the tough points were negotiated. they were negotiated and they were agreed to, and everything was finished and then china told us they can't agree to things they already agreed on. all right and that's okay so i said that's okay we'll put

tariffs on. 25% on $250 billion. now we have another $325 billion left, and we don't make a deal we'll put a tariff on that too, and the united states is making more money than they've ever made ever ever before from china i'd like to make a deal but we'll see what happens but i can tell you as much as i'd like to, china wishes they had that deal to do over again, because what they did was wrong. you can't renegotiate a deal. we had a deal that was donald they wanted to renegotiate and you can't do that. reporter: mr. president, we know -- president trump: i think i will, we haven't picked a date but we will. i just had an incredible time, that speech was special from the standpoint of the people of poland and i know it was considered a very important speech, you people even gave me very high marks in that speech. i could say it but i don't want to say it but some people said it was the best speech ever by a

president in europe so i did not say that. i'm just quoting other people, but it was a great, it was a great day. the two folks treated us so great i'll never forget it. we won't forget our trip to poland, very very tremendous special people. reporter: mr. president, how about the democracy in poland? president trump: quiet, quiet. go ahead. reporter: how concerned are you about backsliding on democracy in poland? president trump: i'm not concerned. i know the president very well and i know the people and the leadership of poland very well i'm not concerned at all. by the way poland is doing so well and they do backslide, they won't be doing well like they are right now. they probably never done better economically. they are like us, the u.s. has never done better economically than we're doing right now. they don't want to backslide. they won't, and besides that they owe us a lot of money because they are buying a lot of things so that's important so they have to do well. we have to make sure they do

well. we're very very happy with poland. you may want to say something about that. >> there is no problem with democrats in poland, period. everything is excellent. president trump: that's what i hear. president trump? president trump: yes. >> [indiscernible] president trump: this would be a certainly a statement that the u.s. would be making. i don't talk about permanents or non-permanents but this would be a statement that the u.s. is making. steve go ahead. reporter: how many troops are you talking about? president trump: well they're talking about 2,000 troops but we'd be taking them out of germany or we'd be moving them from another location. it would be no additional troops to europe. we would be moving them from another location. as you know we have 52000 troops in germany and germany is not living up to what they are supposed to be doing with respect to nato and poland is.

i have to congratulate you, thank you very much, but poland is paying the max, the max will be raised. i raised over $100 billion last year, from countries that were not paying and it wasn't fair to the united states, so we put, they put up over $100 billion more but as you know, germany's at 1%, they should be at 2% and they're not getting there fast. we have 52000 troops in germany. we've had them there for a long long time, so we'd be probably moving a certain number of troops to poland. poland is going to build a phenomenal facility in a very good location. reporter: you're not totally convinced you want to do this? president trump: we haven't totally made up the decision, no . we haven't finalized anything but the facility itself would be world class. >> [indiscernible] president trump: well that's up to them.

nothing to do with naming it. that's all i need, fort trump. you people would have a field day with that, right? no that's up to them. they can name it whatever they want. yes, sir. president trump: thank you. any comment about teaching poland was bril innocent. president trump: thank you. did everybody hear that? [indiscernible] president trump: so energy is a tremendous asset that we have since then we've become the largest energy producer in the world and we are shipping a lot of energy offshore and vietnam made a tremendous purchase of coal to west virginia and we're a tremendous energy producer now in all forms of energy and it's actually within a year especially if i get certain pipelines built it won't even be close, it'll be double what the countries are and it used to be sawed and russia and now it's united states, sawed saudi

arabia and russia. poland is buying a lot of lng. it's going to buy billions and billions of dollars worth of lng from us and we appreciate that. reporter: it is a very common initiative, mr. president? president trump: yes. reporter: mr. president, you block the pipeline from -- president trump: well we're looking at it. people have a right to do what they want to do. i think it's something that i've been looking at and i'm thinking about and i'm the one that brought up the pipeline problem, where you have russia giving a tremendous percentage of energy, this gas is going into germany. i say how can you do that so we're protecting germany from russia, and russia is getting billions and billions of dollars of money from germany. i'm the one that brought up the problem. with that being said i hope they get along but russia is paying 1 %, so they're not paying 2%

they should be paying much more, that germany is paying 1% they should be paying 2%, they should really be paying more than that but we'll see how that works out no, i think this, we have something much better. we have tremendous lng, liquefied natural gas and a lot of the european countries are wanting it including yourselves. i mean, tremendous amounts are being sold to different places all over the world but also to europe and i think that's really the way, they want to spend a tremendous amount of money i do think this and i would say hopefully nothing will happen. nothing negative hopefully we'll have a great relationship with russia, great relationship with china and germany and everybody else, but i do think that germany is putting themselves at a tremendous disadvantage when 50, or even 70% of their energy is being supplied by russia. i don't know how you can do that reporter: but the pipeline, well

-- president trump: well germany, let me explain it differently. germany has the power to block it. do you know how they block it? by not buying it. germany made a decision to buy a tremendous percentage of their energy from russia. germany whether they should be doing that or not they're the ones that have the power to block it. they shouldn't buy it, or if they want to they can, but that's really a decision of germany. i'm not saying that i would be in favor. i think the german people aren't very happy about it, because it really makes germany a hostage of russia, if things ever happen that were bad. hopefully that will never be happening, okay go ahead. reporter: how was your reaction to [indiscernible]. president trump: well i would think they would, sure. i hope they defend themselves. i would think they would defend themselves. iran is not the same country. when i became president, iran was a terror all over the world. they just made this horrible deal for the united states the

iran nuclear deal and i became president and i terminated the deal and iran now is in chaos. its got a lot of problems. i don't want them to be that way but we're stopping their oil and a lot of different things. we just stopped two weeks ago the steel, metals, all metals, all forms of metals, and as you know, they have tremendous inflation. they have a lot of problems. i don't want them to have problems. the problem could be solved, but do you know what they have to do and they didn't do it properly and the deal that president obama made was a horrible deal. it was a horrible deal. $150 billion, $1.8 billion in cash, it was a horrible deal and i terminated the deal very nicely. i terminated the deal. since i terminated that deal, iran is not the same country, but with all of it being said, hopefully, we'll be able to get along with iran. if we can that's great and if we can't that's great too. [overlapping speakers] president

trump: venezuela is obviously in flux, it's doing unbelievably badly. this was, mr. president, one of the richest countries, had tremendous oil, tremendous everything it just shows you where you have a bad system, it became a socialistic system or worse, and now people don't have food, they don't have water, they don't have anything. it's a very sad thing. we're watching venezuela very closely. reporter: you tweeted that russia told you that they were taking out a large part of their military. russia has denied that. president trump: well let's just see whose right. do you know what you'll do? you'll see in the end whose right okay? you just watch it. okay? and we'll see whose right. ultimately, i'm always right. yeah, go ahead. i'll be meeting with putin at the g20. i'll be meeting with president xi at the g20. i'll be meeting with many of the

leaders at the g20. reporter: are there a lot of people in the room with you? president trump: well it's probably easier because you people are so untrusting so it's probably better, would you like to be in the room? i can imagine you would be. i think it's probably easier, we have people in the room because you people don't trust anything. go ahead. reporter: mr. president, you established a great cooperation with duda, and -- president trump: well the first ladies know each other. they get along with each other they are going out to lunch right after this. would you like to say something? reporter: it is great to have them here then, in the oval office in the white house, and i'm looking forward to talking with mrs. duda about children, and what they're facing in our country, what they're facing in poland as we did the first time and we will continue to do so. reporter: mr. president?

[indiscernible] president trump: we're looking at that actually. we're looking at that. that's the kind of relationship we have with poland. we're looking very strongly at visa requirements with respect to poland. something could happen. reporter: today, is very important agreement between our government was signed. very important for this visa regime. reporter: mr. president, can you say what your deal with mexico would be, how will you know if the deal is working? president trump: well because our country has been so successful over the last two and a half years, its been incredible. our gdp numbers, our production numbers, our manufacturing employment numbers, with we have the most people working in our country than we've ever had. we're almost up to 160 million people we've never been close and because the united states has become so successful, in terms of its economic and what it means, the economy of the united states, tremendous number

s of people are trying to come into our country, and i'm saying you can't do that. you have to come in legally and you have to come in through merit. now, a lot of things are happening, but mexico stepped up to the plate, perhaps it was because of the tariffs, i would say perhaps being defined as 99% , but that doesn't matter, because the president of mexico and i have a very very excellent relationship. we spoke, his people were here, for two and a half, three days, working intensively on the agreement and i think it's going to mean a lot of, a lot fewer people coming up. you just can't crash our borders like this. mexico has very very strong immigration laws. we have the worst immigration laws, the dumbest laws anywhere in the world. anywhere in the world there's nothing close but mexico's laws are as strong as they can be. now mexico's moving 6,000 troops to their southern border. that's a lot of troops and we

never even heard of a number like that . that's a lot of troops but that's what they want to do because they want to produce. i think mexico really wants to produce. if mexico does a great job then you won't have very many people coming up. if they don't then we have phase ii. phase ii is very tough, but i think they're going to do a good job. now with all of that being said if the democrats got together with me for 15 minutes we could wipe out the loopholes and we wouldn't need anything from anybody, but right now, mexico is helping us much more on immigration than the democrats in the u.s.. phase ii is a much tougher phase much tougher. reporter: [indiscernible] president trump: i do. well at 1:55, we're going to have the world's greatest

fighter jet, most advanced plane probably anywhere in the world, the fighter jet most advanced plane and at 1:55 to 2:00, we have to hurry because we have to make it so we'll end with this question, we're going to have two super f35s flying at a great rate of speed and then they're doing a second flyback, and i think they go straight up, so they are going to put on a very small show for us but it's going to be having and we're doing that because poland has ordered 32 or 35 brand new f-35s at the highest level, and the latest model and i congratulate you and that means that you have good taste. reporter: mr. president? [indiscernible] president trump: well because the united states has a tremendous polish population, they were very much in favor, they like me and i like them and a lot of them voted for trump and i've always

loved the polish people and always respected the polish people. they're very very hard working and they're smart and they love their country and they love our country too, so i'm always in favor of poland. thank you, sir. thanks, everybody. >> thank you, everybody. neil: all right, we wait until the bitter end just to make sure , the president making a little bit of news there, first of all, on the trade front with the polls, indicating right now, that they are going to be buying a lot more of our liquefied natural gas, it's something we make a lot of in this country

and they are buying a lot more of it, about 1.5 million more tons of it, each year, and that has lifted natural gas futures contract prices a little bit on just the word of that. not dramatically, still have to sink in a little bit here but it was a timely reminder for the president to say see what poland is doing, from buying gas from russia, maybe germany should take note. there were more than a few digs at germany, particularly when it came to its nato commitment to extend the minimum 2% the u.s. asked for, to beef up defenses and to go toward defense projects in their respective countries, germany at 1%, poland north of 2% and the president says that poland is making good on those commitments he also said something that surprised me maybe it was out there, that the 52000 troops we have in germany, he would like to take a couple of thousand of them and bring them to poland as part of the rotating if not

eventually permanent commitment of up to 2,000 more u.s. troops on top of the 4,000 troops we have on a rotating basis in poland right now. now as you heard in the past, the polls have looked for the possibility of beefing that up with a permanent troop presence to be named fort trump if it gets to that stage the president says he leaves it up to the poll s to decide that the name of that still optimistic with the trade deal with china even though this could take a while. edward lawrence at the white house with the fallout, from all of this edward interesting development. reporter: very interesting development a lot of news some of which you touched on those troop developments coming from germany to poland, 2,000 troops on top of the 4,000 already there the polish would like to see that permanent base in poland it would help them, and also help them stand up against russia there you talked about the relationship between russia and poland, poland also buying a couple f-35 fighter jets from

the united states and that's something the president touted saying they're replacing their old soviet jets with some of these f35 jets in fact within the hour there's a flyover at the white house, of a couple of those f35 jets and in fact we're told that they may even go straight up that jet is a very interesting piece of technology. now the president also saying that poland is paying their share of the defense cost, with nato, at 2.05% this is where the president also then pointed out germany is not living up to their commitment to nato. then he shifted saying that germany is now through that pipeline, with russia, germany is now a hostage of russia if they go forward with that pipeline, for natural gas should something happen between that relationship, the president then touting as you mentioned that liquefied natural gas there, president donald trump also saying he's watching the situation in hong kong very closely. he says that he believes that this could work out, but he says that he's the u.s. is concerned about the shift in laws and sending suspects over to

mainland china there. here is the president on hong kong. president trump: they said it was a million people. that was a million people. that was as big a demonstration as ever we've seen so i hope it all works out for china and for hong kong. >> are they sending a message to china with these demonstrations? president trump: i don't know what they're sending them that's a demonstration they're having. i understand the reason for the demonstration, but i'm sure they will be able to work it out. i hope they can work it out with china. reporter: neil the president also talked china trade we'll go back to you. neil: thank you, real quick i want to squeeze in the north dakota republican senator kevin kramer the president is having a luncheon right now with this polish counterparts senators and they will talk about progress made on a variety of fronts. what do you think of all of this >> well first of all, neil thanks for letting me listen into the news conference because this is all kind of news to me, to say the least, but poland is such an important friend and allie, that i problem probably talked to the polish energy

administration because they have very specific needs that we can meet and both on the defense side and the liquid natural gas side, and between the president first raised this issue with angela merkel, you might remember a couple of years ago some people were rolling their eyes i was cheering him on because he's exactly right, about energy security is national security, and they should take a queue. neil: senator i'm being rude i apologize the president of the united states just after a luncheon with the polish president. president trump: the military and lots of other things, and they continue, secretary is discussing a very very big transaction with poland, one of the biggest and we're very prepared to go forward with that , as you know, and i think that will be very very important for both nations, making particular for the nation i think you're right for what you're doing. i'd like to ask secretary pompeo

maybe to say a few words. i know you're doing well and successfully with your representative from poland. i will. thank you, mr. president. it's great to see you. thanks too for all of the, i know you had a good conversation with the president on multiple topics but thanks for all of the good work you've done in supporting our efforts, the gathering we had several months back i think was important, a game changer and you all did fantastic work and it truly help ed chariot his effort in the work we're doing in the middle east, it was a very very valuable moment and i know we're doing work as well and i think that's an important step too so thank you, foreign minister and i have become great friends and good partners and i appreciate that. president trump: thank you, mike >> no, i think trade is starting to get going very very well with poland. there's a lot of growth in bilateral trade. we have a little disagreement whether we have a trade deficit

or a surplus,. >> [laughter] >> but in any event it's growing, so it's in the right direction. president trump: thank you for that. mr. secretary? >> poland is the model for defense cooperation and my counterpart, the defense minister and i have had a very productive week, as you know, the 2% of their gdp on defense, and the americans spent over 20% of the spending on procurement, by americans. president trump: we appreciate it. >> i'm looking at 35s and we have more work that we're doing in terms of troops in poland and a very very productive week. president trump: good, thank you and i see our ambassador has done a good job. how is it going? >> well, i can say that poland

is really an important allie of ours. they step up and support us. we have a number of deliverables that i think mr. president, as the president that you are, you will be very very pleased with the progress that we have made. certainly under your leadership and president duda's leadership. president trump: thank you. keep up the good work. >> thank you, sir. president trump: rick perry? >> mr. president, thank you, and president duda it's god to be with you again. we had the opportunity to spend some time last weekend in brussels and ambassador mossbach er, we had a great group of individuals working towards today, when we signed a couple of memorandums of understanding. one on the civil nuclear side and from a obviously my counterpart on the energy side, we signed a big extension of lng

contractors, massive potential ahead for american lng , both on the construction side of facilities in poland and obviously selling the product as well. but back on the civil nuclear side. i've never been as excited about the potential there and it will give poland the flexibility to have an all of the above energy strategy and i think president duda, that's his goal for poland that you can't have national security until you have energy security and poland is headed towards that energy security platform, mr. president, and thanks to your policies and your clear message to all of us on the administration team is to get out there and get these deals done, and nothings more powerful than what's happening in the american energy front right now, and so lng is a big

part of that, but we don't get confused that civil nuclear and i might add the coal that and the clean coal technologies that are being partnered within poland, so it's a great story, great partnership, and we thank you, mr. president for your continual partnership. thank you. president trump: poland is a very very large purchaser now of the lng and they are getting it by the billions, actually we're selling contracts for billions and billions of dollars and we have a lot of it so we very much appreciate it and i see our great secretary of homeland security, now why are you on the mexican border today? what are you doing here with poland? we partner with our friends in europe as well, mr. president. thank you for the welcome, president duda, it's good to see you and your team. we have a very strong

counterterrorism relationship with poland and we'll sign that today with the crime agreement and one of the key steps moving forward in our way to waiver our relationship so it's good to be here and look forward to that progress. president trump: and that southern border that we talk about all the time. we're doing well, mr. president. we're aggressively implementing the agreement that secretary pompeo and with your leadership we got with mexico recently so we're making progress on that already and the first few days, and seeing real developments in our partnership. president trump: we had the democrats we could solve the problem in 15 minutes with the loopholes and the asylum, right? >> that's what i explained yesterday at the hearing. president trump: i know you did and you did it well. john bolton? >> mr. president, with the united states --

president trump: thank you very much. thank you, everybody, thank you very much. >> [overlapping speakers] neil: all right, the president meeting with key cabinet members and of course the president of poland, what struck me as interesting is a back drop to my next guest is the president is i think not so suddenly reminding china, you know, we just scored this deal, with mexico, we're scoring a big one and this could be a very big one, when it comes to a deal down not only to boost our troop commitment in poland, but also to sign a very big liquefied natural gas contract with poland to the point that they will be the second largest customer on the planet for our

liquefied natural gas, so we haven't had time to crunch numbers, we know it was bidding up prices of natural gas futures contracts, which had been a little bit soft on this idea of a global slow down because of the trade but he thinks maybe this is just reminding china the deals go on, the transactions go on, and you can just sit and stew all you want. now that's just a quick interpretation probably not an accurate one but my next guest is an expert in these areas fifth third bank chief investment strategist. jeff it is interesting that in the middle of all of this and the back and forth with china, whether they can trust us we can trust them the president is one deal after another. is that subtle pressure? >> i think it's pressure and also a reminder to the business community that this is not an anti-trade administration. it's very, their trade concerns are very focused with china. i think the focus on energy is particularly interesting, because of how far we have to go in building up the u.s. as an

energy exporter the ripple effects in the rest of the economy you may know a quarter of all manufacturing activity in the united states is attributable to the energy industry. neil: is that right? >> that is. neil: more than i thought. do you know what's interesting too, i'm old enough to remember when we didn't have that luxury and we depended on opec for everything, you know, then came fracking and then came the discovery of our large natural gas storage and just supply that now it's getting to be a big export business for it. >> capitalism is a very good problem solver. we see that in energy. we see that in other areas. our focus at fifth third is being looking at how capitalism is starting to address some of our workforce deficiencies and the labor shortage. neil: let me ask you a little bit about what's going on with china now. i don't know when these talks resume. if i do know that already, a number of u.s. companies are making contingency plans, and nintendo might make a lot more of its stuff out of china now.

foxconn indicating that you know , a lot of these iphones presently that they make right now in china could be made elsewhere. that has got to put the pressure on the chinese. >> it does and i think some of this may be irreversible. neil: in other words even if we get a deal. we think the american industry is reassured researcherring their supply chain similar to what it did in the wake of 2011 when natural disasters disrupted the chip industry, the auto industry. that's when we saw the stop of the pleading of manufacturing employment to the united states. neil: and we'ring a little bit out of control but what's going on in hong kong now kind of reminds me a lot of what we saw in 1989 i know it's very different and we hope it remains very different but it is calling into question parading with a country that could rach etiquette this up to the degree it has, right? >> one of the things that the trade disputes have really shifted the conversation is the public perception and the

government global government perception of china, and there's a wider recognition that there isn't as many values that we share. neil: do you think china is watching all these developments saying gosh i guess they can do without us? >> i think that is part of it and it's also a fortunate time in that productivity is picking up that's keeping a lid on inflationary pressures, it's keeping growth in good shape, despite some of these pressures so there's nothing from a purely economic standpoint there's nothing good about trade dispute s, free-trade is a good thing, but from a political standpoint, and the citizens viewpoint, there are reasons why we might want to put trade barriers in place and keep them in place. this is a good time to have that conversation. neil: always good to have a position of strength rather than the other way around. jeff thank you and very patient through all of this breaking news a lot of he was very gracious about that. by the way uber is unveiling a new self-driving car. i don't know about this whole

self-driving. i do know it's very big and susan li on how big, at their big conference on just this subject, hey susan. reporter: hey, there, neil. so yeah, we'll fix the isb the earpiece in just a bit the head of uber self-driving and we're here to introduce the third generation uber self-driving car , so this is made by volvo. that's correct this is a prototype. reporter: plus by the way i should tell our viewers that self-driving is probably uber's biggest internal investment it's valued at $7.25 billion, and also you received i think $1 billion from toyota and soft bank as well. >> yes that's right. reporter: people are thinking because of the cash and how much r & d is involved in self-driving vehicles you'll need to raise more money? >> well i think it's possible at some point. we're talking about a 7.25 deal we haven't even see the ink dry

in what is the next round but it's something we have to consider. reporter: yeah, what about safety because it's obviously something you need to consider especially after the headlines made by the tragic deaths in phoenix. >> so the safety is and this isn't a cliche thing but it's the essence of what we're doing. it's all about safety for us. if we don't have a product and people think it's safe we don't have a product people will use so it's through our entire company, from the way we do engineering to the way we just built out our safety team, the folks we've hired from governments, from aviation, and then also, how we've gone about changing how we train our missions for people behind the wheel. it's -- reporter: important. >> the number one thing for us. reporter: i'm wondering because of the accident in phoenix has that pushed back your plans for commercial introduction? >> i think our plans for commercial introduction are all about when this technology is ready in such a way that people leave it and so how can we

effect that is hard to say, but the fact of the matter is people have to open up and see the product and say yes and if they don't feel comfortable they're not going to say yes so it's on us to make them feel comfortable by shows them. reporter: now your partner, eric , you partner, so is that the mid-2020s a third of the cars on the road will be autonomous, is that true? >> i love that. i hope so, but i really don't know. that's in the mid-20s? reporter: yes. perhaps. i'm excited to see. reporter: maybe. you have a lot of competition and the biggest partner with lyft so maybe you want to get there first? >> we'll be doing our best for sure. reporter: eric thank you so much good to see you. a lot of new technologies here, neil. we have a lot of guests but i'll send it back to you. neil: very cool stuff susan li thank you very very much. eric as well. all right, you know the battle back and fourth, sprint, t ebb month ill, getting together, will they not get together,

along come almost a dozen state attorneys general we're saying not so fast. charlie gasparino has been way ahead of this and the implications of this. charlie: ten have joined this lawsuit and it could potentially delay this thing particularly if they get to a court they filed in the southern district of new york if they can get a judge. neil: what is their beef? they are saying going from four wireless carriers which there are now, at&t, verizon, sprint, t-mobile to three because you'd merge one on its face, anti- competitive. neil: what if one of them went out of business? charlie: you're giving my argument and t-mobile's arguments, but they're saying that on its face is anti- competitive, thus, you know , we want this thing blocked and these are all blue state ag 's, again, they can find a willing judge to up end this thing and that could really postpone the merger forever, and then it becomes t-mobile's

decision whether they want out or not, but from what i understand, these ag's and again , they are all blue state a g's are looking for more. they pes relooking for, you know , something like 27, i mean do we have a number on how many state ag's are that are democrat s? there's like 27 of them, these are 10 so there's 17 left, and if those, if they can, they're hoping to sort of peel some of those 17 off to join the lawsuit that puts even greater pressure on the mergers. neil: do you think that's going to happen? charlie: here is what i'd say. i think the timing of this was very interesting. it came as we were reporting, that there was progress being made in terms of figuring out a concession plan that would past at doj, and we know ajit pai, the sec chairman who already approved it and the doj anti- trust chief had met, presumably they had a good meeting so all of the signs were

there that this thing could happen, and then bingo, they came with this. so now the question is, does this have any impact on the doj and you know, at margins it could and here is why. because if macon thinks this thing could win, they could win at a lower court he may say, you know, do we really want to not litigate this if hit thing is going to be litigated by the states, and it may be a bridge too far. that's some of the thinking going in there. i know it doesn't sound exactly logical but one thing that the federal government does not like particularly the anti-trust division is made to look stupid so if there is actually a federal judge that stops this thing and you know, then people turn to him and say okay, why would you approve a deal that obviously federal judges think could be anti-competitive so it's in the politics stage, and but on its face, i'm telling you i'm trying to look at this fairly. sprint is likely to go out of business anyway.

you know, sprint is leading with debt. it is not a competitor. there's not really four wireless carriers. there are three, and because sprint is not a competitor, so if you, if they don't do this deal, they're still having, if they do this deal they are still having three and if they don't you'll probably have three anyway and if you merge sprint with t-mobile the synergies they can create plus the fact that sprint has spectrum, you can compete, in wireless, on price. i mean it's pretty simple and plus, a stronger company like this, is going to be devoted a lot, a lot of the resources to 5g. i mean, i just don't understand. neil: why in this day and age, huawei is targeting them. charlie: it's crazy the trump adminitration and the economic types want it, the president wants it. neil: okay. charlie: it's going to be hard to rationalize saying no, but it's always a possibility given what's going on right here. this is very politically frought neil: can i ask you a personal

question? charlie: go ahead. neil: not a fan i know you're not of electric cars. charlie: right. neil: what holds you back? charlie: listen, i want them to work. it would be great if they were all electric for the environmental reasons, but i will say this though. i don't know if, you know? listen, one thing, listen the internet-of-today is a lot better than the internet of 30 years ago so there is a natural transition. right now, they are not meant for the masses. you know it and i know it. $35,000 is sort of minimum price neil: because this comes into my tease that could change, if, if, if, you could go 400 miles on a charge. right now, elon musk is saying that is the case. is that a game changer for you? what about for charlie? don't care about charlie i'm talking to you, after this. is where people first gathered to form the stock exchangeee,

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neil: all right, for all of the controversy around senator bernie sanders, and talking up democratic socialism which he'll be doing today, he hasn't been arguing, it's working and it's clicking with voters, because he leads the president, almost by the same amount that nationwide joe biden does. that's still very very early. we don't put much count into this but if we did then hillary clinton would have beaten on donald trump because at this stage she was leading him by 17 points. that was him and maybe very different situation now, but what to make of the strategy, with bernie sanders is the democratic socialism or leaving that out of it to talk about free college and medicare for all, does resonate with voters. it would seem to be polling well for the time being, political strategist joins us, and david mcintosh, and the daily caller news foundation editor chris bed ford. chris it is remarkable if you think about it and i know you always remind me, exactly right,

don't seize on polls but it's interesting that for bernie sanders, all this talk of socialism and he doesn't back away from that. what do you make of it? >> i was looking a the some of the 2007 national polls and barack obama was about 10-20 points behind hillary clinton, rudy guiliani hadn't been touch ed since january so exactly , hard to get into this but obviously, there's a massive shift in this country that's happened over the last 10 or so maybe longer years, where socialism is a dirty word, is long-out and candidates whether it's elizabeth warren or bernie sanders or alexandria ocasio-cortez are getting a national platform and americans are not finding the same issues that they did in the past, but what bernie needs to do at this point is really establish that lead. nationally he's still beating elizabeth warren and anyone else in third and fourth place but in iowa, he's really tied for second place behind joe biden, a big policy speech on what his ideas are and using it to target corporations with what he's intending to do and tapping into

that discontent, may be a way for him to differentiate himself neil: as a former bernie sanders campaign staffer, you know he can argue whether you agree or disagree and the others are johnny and joanna come-lately and i was the original, you know , deal here, socialistic mayor from burlington and vermont, and always those bigger government spending plans and for us to point out a way to pay for them that some of the latest colleagues are not. is he a threat to donald trump do you think? >> you know, he did be first, also first to lose as well, so being first is not always the prize. the question really comes down to i can literally hear the opponents laughing from here, especially elizabeth warren. when you talk about him rising in the polls that because for three years straight our revolution felt an entire

volunteer network, built being his publicist firm, pushing his message and vision but when it comes i do see senator warren doing quite well because not only does she have a plan she's also in the middle saying she's a progressive but understands capitalism and how it should be fixed and i see her doing very well senator sanders still explains how he pays for it and it still needs to make sense and it can't completely be off emotion so we're a long way away and i don't think that this i am a socialistic is going to drive him any further except down to the polls. neil: you know, david, though if i'm president trump looking at this strong economy whether you want to give all of the credit for it, as i always say we would certainly like the president to be opposite but having said that he must be scratching his head, these polls are all fake news, because they don't jive with what i'm hearing and what i'm seeing and what i'm doing, so why are they what they are? >> i think what you're seeing are two things the democrats are shifting as chris mentioned deep

into socialistic territory, and seeing bernie and elizabeth warren benefit from that, as they're both rising up from the polls, getting closer to biden, in those democratic primary poll s but you're also seeing biden have to now shift and flip long time-held positions where like on the green new deal, he's now further left than obama was, where originally, he said it wasn't a big deal. i mean, it's having about enormous impact on their primary and ultimately, trump by think is setting back saying i can beat all of them, because they're going to be too far left for that sweet middle ground in the battleground states in the midwest. neil: we all evolve and a lot of people are saying joe biden is evolving on issues like originally supporting the height amendment which restricted federal funding for most abortions and now to say that china is the competitive threat when he in you mated a little more than a couple of weeks ago

that it was not. chris does that come back? >> yeah, absolutely, joe biden trying to twist himself into a pretzel saying that china was a friend of ours just to hurt president trump that's not very statesman-like behavior and biden has gotten a reputation as being a moderate for years. he was a leader in the obama administration on pushing a more liberal agenda and barack obama did not run on gay marriage. joe biden made that the center of the administration, later on, with people later called a gap. going back and fourth on these policy decisions sometimes three times in 24 hours like he did with the height amendment that seems like it's campaign problem in the beginning of some of the gaps from the past. neil: you know, tessa, when you look at who has evolved now to challenge let's say bernie sanders, from the hard left despite the concerns about joe biden moving more hard left he's got a lot more competition. you mentioned elizabeth warren, you could go down the likes of the candidates, but were bernie

sanderses views to take him to the next level. who survives that? >> well, i guess we'll see, you know, you talk about 20-plus candidates and not nearly half of them receiving the media coverage that i think they deserve so that's why the debate s are so important and when i worked for senator sanders back in 2016 there were literally two options. everyone else was scared to run and that's where we're making a big mistake by listening to other candidates or plans, what happened to beto o'rourke, did anybody do a wellness check on him? he was the new king of the day and we haven't heard from him as well but joe biden is really rolling out policies there is something called pesky policies that some of us are still into and he hasn't done that yet and taking it for granted saying i've got it in the bag will ultimately hurt him just like in 2016 with hillary clinton. neil: all right, we'll watch it very closely guys i want to thank you all very much. a quick peak at the corner of wall and broad the dow down about 56 points, given what's happening in hong kong, concerns that talks with china, given these developments aren't going to be on the front burner any

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neil: you know, i don't know how many of you are aware the washington post columnist among others henry olson but what i love about his writing is it's very clear, it's lucid it doesn't have a view to the right or the left but it steps way back in a very fair and balanced way looks at the dangers on both sides are generalizing too much. he did the same on reporting on the media coverage of the mexico deal, the president got, with the mexicans and the new york times reported you might recall earlier this week that said well everything that was agreed to was something that was already cooking up long before, so it was nothing new here. well he looked into it as did the washington post to say all right you might not flip over the president, but he did get a lot of things using the lever of trade you might neoteric that to get your way on border issues but it worked but just in case you think he totes a right wing view over the past, he's talked about the president needing a

trade strategy 101, that the fact is trump is just a bully, so he's a very clear thinker on this, and i always love that idea because i think people on the liberal view he's going to say the liberal thing and on the conservative he says the conservative thing and it gets really old, anyway i apologize for offly praising him but he's worth that praise, henry olson joining me right now, very good to have you, sir. >> thanks for having me on, neil. neil: you know what i like about you saying is first of all did you research and realize, look, it might be tempting to blast the president on this, and saying he went too far, but we would not have gotten a lotto of what he got certainly in the timeframe he would have got it had he not done this, right? >> that's exactly right that the reporting at the washington post chose that what he did was convinced the mexican government to speed things up and agreed to possibly looking at things they completely ruled out before and without the threat of tariffs none of that would have happened and we'll find out in 45 or 90

days whether or not the mecklenburg mecklenburgs can control both their border with us and their border with guatemala but he wouldn't be trying if it wasn't for trump and his tariffs. neil: your counter park at the new york times is saying that's silly all of this was being cook ed up and i do remember the talk that we were pressing the mexicans to beef up their southern border notably with guatemala but they hadn't committed to it this idea of being a third party when it comes to dealing with a default nation to send migrants to. that had been talked about but this spelled it out. why did people miss this? >> well i think a lot of people wanted to believe that trump had been had. take a look at what happened with the north korea summit. all of the press, drum beat, going into the north korea summit, was what a fool trump is he shouldn't be here he's going to take a bad deal to save faith and then he walks away, because guess what, he got a bad deal

and he knew how to walk away and suddenly everyone blames him for calling this out in the first place. the guy can't win, it was a lot of people and that's what it was a rush to judgment to condemn someone who they had already judged deficient. neil: what kind of response did you get to your column? >> i'm getting pretty good response. usually, i get a lot of, when i say something nice i usually get a lot of progressives who tell me how stupid i am, often misspelling words. it's amazing how that happens but i've got a number of favorable responses o this one saying thanks for being fair and balanced i really appreciate what you and what your colleague s at the washington post are doing. it's nice to hear some good things for a change. neil: what i like about what you do, i know it seems that i'm so tired of this theatre almost professional wrestling way we handle issues today. it's all trump, or no trump. it's full praise trump or full critical trump and life is about nuances and getting it. now you've been critical of the

president too in his approach to trade, but what's your big worry there? >> my big worry with his approach to trade is that the major issue we've got is with china, that china is the country that's doing the most damage to us and it's the country that can in the future, through its military and political structure , do the most damage to the west, and in order to contain it, we need allies, and so what he's unncesssarily doing is antagonizing our allies, with his own trade disputes with europe and with japan, and what we need to do is put those behind and unite them so that we can front china as an entire western block, and if the trump were to do that i think we would get a much better deal from china much more quickly and then you can deal with some of the lesser issues with those countries. neil: henry a real pleasure having you, it's very thoughtful ly laid out. we could use more of that. henry olson, and again that's what we try to do on this show.

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neil: have you ever gone to a car showroom and the dealer

shows you what you are about to buy but this is the equivalent of that. a feast for the eyes for the polish president. president trumper showing him the latest at 35 fighter jets they just decided to purchase a number of them. i don't have the number handy but it's on on the heels of the gas contract. poland is among the countries that exceeds the 2% of their gdp to foot toward defense related issues. it's one of the precious few who do within the nato organization in germany is about half that. treated to a spectacle of some of the stuff he will get. this relationship that will tighten up with the united states also reports that polls want more american troops and will build a permanent facility for them in poland from 4,000 upwards of 6,002,000 could come from the 52,000 soldiers we have presently in germany.

the president's new best friend in the region seems to be the polls and not so much the germans. following that closely but we've got the dow down about 51-point so we are doing okay. charles b1 neil, thank you. good afternoon i'm charles payne and this is "making money". breaking right now we got a jampacked show. president trump will be holding a news conference in a few minutes with poland's president and will bring you that live this after saying he hopes all the cards and trade negotiations with china in re- upping his criticism of the fed for raising interest rates in december. also presidential candidate bernie sanders will be speaking in george washington university defending his democratic socialism platform which includes universal healthcare, preached college tuition. the senator is fading quickly to joe biden and other bibles were begun making strides in polls using parts of his plan. sanders is america's more than ad f