or not, right. have a great evening, we have a big show this week. president is leaving for japan, g20 this week, we're all over it, see you tomorrow night, kept dekennedy in begins now. kennedy: oh, my garden, democrats gearing up for war this week, as they prepare for first debate of 2020 primary elect season. joe biden has his sights set on the president, and president is swinging back, they have been sparring for weeks now, saturday biden turned it up to 11, comparing donald trump presidency to the assassination of dr. king. >> i think what is happening, i think that donald trump may have reawakened sincebilities in country to say, woe we could dos

now. a whole generation back in. kennedy: you are back in to dementiaville. but with insults getting nastier, president said he does not think that biden will be too tough to beat, and he would prefer to face him rather than hillary again, really? watch. >> i think that hillary clinton was a great candidate, she was very smart, very tough. she was ruthless and vicious. >> you would rather run against her again. >> no. >> you spend a lot of time talking about her. >> no, i would rather run against biden. >> why. >> sleepy joe, she was not sleeping. kennedy: the presidential train has passed for former vice president biden. they can't build a campaign around name-calling alone, they need ideas, today we got a bunch from both side, president signing an executive order calls

on hospitals to disclose prices, that is is a great idea. this also meant to keep overall costs down. healthcare, has not been a winning issue for republicans, it look like president is trying to turn that tide. on other happened biden today -- hand biden released a new immigration plan, basically opposite of everything that white house is doing, he wants a path to citizenship for dreamers and calls plan to build a wall divorce from prerheality -- reality, who has the mojo now. >> we have a man panel with us. jason johnson is here. along with real clear politics cofounder, tom bevon is back. and this show, jimmy faella. great sport coat, better shoes, thank you. so, i think this is really interesting because the

president is saying he would rather take on hillary, i would like to see him take on hillary, that would be entertaining much more so than trump versus biden when is already getting old. >> always hard to tell with the president, he is really good with head fakes, but you look at polls, you keep up with them, it is true biden tends to match up better against the president than other candidates. kennedy: hillary matched up better. >> this far out, general elect polls are useless. i don't know if he is the most weak intellectualityy certainly not the strongest. kennedy: le let me read you a qe from former secretary of defense, he said, i think he has been wrong on nearly every major foreign policy and national security issue over past 4

decades from robert gates in 2014, that served through 6 administrations, taking biden to task, and i think that biden has an uphill climb in short-term. but i want to talk about the polling. the rcp average most people turn to when they try to gauge how well candidates and issues are doing. have they changed their methods at all. no one had it right going to election night, what has changed? you do your ag gat -- aggregate polling. >> right, in 2016, national polls were better than they were more accurate then in 2012 or 2008, we had hillary clinton in our national average winning by two, i think she won by 3.3%. and some state polls were on.

we had a couple misses, wisconsin was one. kennedy: minnesota was closer. >> the problem in 2016, you had the experts on television every day saying it was a 99 or 100% lock for hillary clinton to win. kennedy: i think that new york is still saying that around 7:30 p.m. eastern time. >> the problem was more pundits than polls. kennedy: larry sab -- at 9:30 at night he said hil hillary wouldn florida. florida. >> the day before the election we had trump winning florida, and winning north carolina, he won both. we had hillary clinton winning virginia, she did. there were a couple misses, but even pennsylvania, final average 1.8 percentage points. kennedy: within the margin of error. and so was florida and wisconsin. >> if you ask a hundred thousand

people in america is pennsylvania a toss up, no one would would are said yes -- no one would have said yes. kennedy: she was named after sir edmond hillary. >> he was the only hillary to make it to the summit. to the top. kennedy: wha' happened. >> he climbed mount everest when one ber person did it a year. i think that polls, looking this far out, even some states, does anyone think that bernie sanders will beat don b donald trump by. >> no. kennedy: is the president trying to bait hillary back into the game. >> yes, yes, why would he not want to do that. kennedy: i want to run against hillary. >> i would love it for anything, and bernie sanders, if i were

him i would hire a food taster. there is no way dnclets him get a nomination, but he is not running again biden, party does not' biden, the kids don't want biden, that is why he did not go to south carolina this weekend, he does not want to walk in and hear young girls saying, um, mayor pete, i think your dad is here, he is -- he blew his window. kennedy: he could realistically be mayor pete's grandfather. >> easily, joe biden is a don't, that bob gates quote, accurate, he is a dope, he screwed up everything, i was so glad they tried to race pimp him last week, he famously to mitt romney and paul ryan, he told black crowd, he wants to put you guys back in chains, only thing mitt

romney put on chains was his dog on the roof of his car on vacation, sorry. nothing. kennedy: meantime it looks like democrat latest golden boy is facing his first campaign cris crisis. i'm still pulling for you mayor pete. in indiana he is mayor, last night he held a town hall where angry residents voiced their frustration, watch. >> you want our vote, do your job. >> there are ways on -- do you understand. get the people that are racist off the street. >> if anyone who is on patrol is shown to be a racist or to do something racist in a way that

is substantiated, that is their last day on the street. kennedy: in a way that is substantiated, the cool quotes. i think that mayor pete should have just read some poetry in his native norwegian tongue, that one thing that would have gone over a little bit better, he has not polled well with black voters, and this shooting will not help, in particular his reaction. he will face a lot of questions about that in debate this week. is his candidacy in jeb dee. jeb jeopardy. >> >> i think that other candidates realize what a lot of people who are studying polls realize, which is you have average about a third of democratic primary voters, nation wide who never heard of this guy. yet he is polling in the top 5.

so the long nights are out for this -- the long knives are out for this guy, i think many of his opens arhis opponent opens f him having a moment on debate. no coincidence on heels of joe biden dealing with his race related issue suddenly mayor pete has his own. kennedy: they realize that gets traction and a hard time breaking through. there is so much tire kicking, and so many lead changes, particularly among democrats, they have not settled on anyone. younger voters and younger democrats are not comfortable with joe biden. i don't think he did any favors last week when he tried to explain. but pete buttigieg has a pretty

stark fall back to earth. >> always a question whether his rise was media fuel or if he was gaining traction, in all polls he has polled 0% with african-americans, nationally, his support is well educated white upper class liberals on the coast. silicon valley and hollywood and on wall street, he has been putting up big number, but never -- i was skeptical he would -- his candidacy would mature to point he would win the nomination. i think this puts a spotlight on fact he is playing in big leagues now and struggling. kennedy: people said the same thing about mike pence, and dan quaile. >> you can saying vical? >> he could be, kamala harris, that would be solid. >> so exciting. >> mayor pete, i feel for the

guy. he is in a bad spot, to his credit, democrat call everyone racist, their biggest race problem really, biggest liability is that trump has a pretty good president with black voters as president. he will get more than people realize. trump -- >> by the way president obama was not able to pass on criminal justice reform. that racist white national -- >> right this white supremacist, people are getting thrown off knitting sites today, he is one kanye album from 3 terms right now. the third might be a stretch. i might have been e-- exaggerating. kennedy: it might not be as disastrous admit mitt and john mccain. >> to mayor pete's point, slightly yours, this is a

familiarity issue, a lot of people don't know who he is, you can't google him, auto correct is do you mean beatle juice. kennedy: okay so. buttigieg the next president or my next boyfriend. >> wow, i would hate to wish that on the guy. kennedy-- >> the fact that he is gay -- >> that does not dissuade me. >> it has been one of the core of his rise in media attention. kennedy: i hear he is a great runner, he has a great core. >> he is running to hierarchy of victim hood in democratic party. kennedy: i'll make him a victim, he can be mine. we have more 2020 to discuss, coming up next. bernie sanders now wants the government to are in give 6 --

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not only will there be chocolate milk in the drinking fountain, college will be free. bernie started this whole lark 4 years ago his communism fetish seemed like a punch line, he snatched primary states from hillary's icy craw, then robbing paul, and ringo for that matter to pay peter seemed swell. now everyone trying on the amazing technicolor commie cloak, it is easier to promise everyone everything than to alike grown ups and make meaningful budget cuts, bernie wants debt forgiveness and free college for everyone that is nonsense, there is no reason to jack up taxes for poorest two-thirds of country for higher education choices of fancier third who probably should have deferred college in first place, for those those people who busted their humps and lady

lumps working multiple jobs, to pay off student loans why should the slackers get a free pass, especially those who den follow through and get a degree, which is half, should we be on the hook to pay for someone's community college to spin their whiles between instagram shoots, what a bargain. reason that warren is getting traction and burning bernie is thought that goes 2 her bad plans, sure she has 3 trillion dollar worth of education give aways. no matter which rich people she buggers, but at least her debt plan is means tested, that means if you are rich, you can't have the money, bernie's is a cash grab for wealthiest who would fill -- pilfer vast majority

from middle incomers, let's pretend there is a limited revenue stream for the pie and sky horse crap ideas and we can put money where it is most needed, which is in hands and bank accounts of individuals who do a better job than federal government of filling their needs and fixing their mistakes, that is the memo. bernie sanders and liz warren jockeying for second place behind frontrunner sleepy joe biden. who is striking a different tone from rest of democratic field, today he said his policies are not to quote make everything for everyone all of the time, will 2020 be a battle between populist progressives like bernie and warren versus

moderates like biden. the man panel has returned, jimmy faella, it is ridiculous, as we get closer to first debate, and you see that elizabeth warren is gaining on bernie they get crazy. >> it is embarrassing, and this student loan forgiveness thing is a slap in the face for the community college graduates like me. warren talking about reparations for gay people. because they didn't get tax cuts, are you kidding? i never felt bad for gay people who were not allowed to get people, i knew so many single guys who wish they had a law to hide behind, listen honey,y would love to but this law. and maybe some of us oppose gay marriage, because we want you to be happy, how did that, we're just looking out for you. i love you jennie. kennedy: i hope that jennie is doing something else right now.

laying concretes for your racquetball court. >> she is pushing pool really hard. kennedy: but this is not means tested even pete buttigieg, has pointed out that people who go to college will make more money, why should rest of us two-thirds of nation, pay for those people when half of those people don't get degrees. >> right, alexandria ocasio-cortez, was at a press conference today talked about fact that a friend of hers got into college of her dreams, and decided to go and took on 250,000 worth of student debt. kennedy: that was dumb, she knew the price. >> why do we have to pay for someone's decision to go to their dream college, there are other options. kennedy: but what if i wanted to get to the car of my dreams and if i had that car my life would be better because people's perception of me would be improved. should the rest of society be on the hook for my phantom?

>> no. kennedy: yes, yes, the answer is yes, lobby for it. use your political connection get me a free car. >> come on. >> there broad agreement this college tuition costs are out of control, it is sort of a scam, something needs to be done. but they are out of control is because, they are loaning kids money and colleges keep jack up tuition. kennedy: this is no incentive for colleges and universities to lower their cost, they keep hiring morad -- administrator, not about influencing minds it is about college making more money because they know that government is printing it and it is free. >> guarantees demand coming from the government, now bernie steps in say, cancel that debt, you know, if you think about it me from a conservative perspective, for a long time, we said that we

should have a national debate about straight up socialism, and free enterprise, we're about to have it we're having it. kennedy: we had it on fox business a few weeks ago, charles payne hosted the whole thing. >> i think that college debt, debate if you will, among democratic primary candidates for president, it -- more than anything else shows us when we're dealing with. i think that everyone gets the -- that college is too expensive and most dprad yeah, the graduat getting their money's worth, they are not willing to talk about why. kennedy: and the why is the biggest issue, that is where the conservation should be. >> thank you, so much, what a night, u.s. striking back at iran after they shot down one of our drones, will cyberattacks and new sanctionses be enough. and best sellinga you au --

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threats, if anyone can solve this 5,000 piece puzzle, our next guest, former u.s. army special operation operator and author of drone warrior brett. >> good evening, good to see you. >> nice to see you, i was surprised that the supreme leader had not been specifically targeted with one of multithousand sanctions we have issued to iran. >> the truth and i don't believe that latest cyberattack and the new increased economy santions are truly enough to deter iran in short-term. we have more than a thousand separate sanctions levied against them. latest focused on ayatollah, that is like putting them again president trump, he is already

rich, he will be fine. but the latest attack, that it cheer that irclear that the iran hardliners heard believe they are at war with -- already believe they are at war with us. kennedy: they have been the war with us since the 80s. >> that is right. the irgc conducted an attack and paid a proxy group to take down a building on top of us, they have not targeted u.s. properties went recent years, but recent attack represents such a serious escalation that it warranted a direct response from our u.s. forces -- >> are you disappointed in president he pulled back? >> this is not too often that i am, but in this case, i am, i do believe that we look weak, in the eyes of the iranian leadership, and a regime that only understands concept of power and strength, i believe

they are emboldened because we did not do anything here. kennedy: but what if we look crazy, what if it is unpredictable, i don't think that iranians assume that president pulling back, which i applaud for different reasons, of course, i don't have personal experience that you do, certainly, we're coming at this from different angles, but different than obama's syrian red line, because, obama made the assertion if assad attached his own people that was red line, and th the events horizond his regime would never be the same, then he turned around he had no congressional support but his ally in great britain parliament thwarted the pmthere as well, what would it take to illicit a response from u.s. >> i think that pompeo made it

clear, he said do not kill american forces. but at same time, they just struck 130 million dollar drone, what is to stop them from conducting another attack on a 5 million dollar tanker or hitting an airport. they are looking for that red line, that is why i do believe that we could have conducted a proportionate response not involve sending troops necessarily to war. but in business -- >> we have cyber capabilities, we have been wasting so much time and energy collecting medadata and spying on americans, we should be training those resourcing to screw around with the grid in places like, ran, they cannite a bag of sticks -- they can eat a bag of sticks for all a i will watch my language. >> we have incredible intelligence collect, we have a covert action that could be

unleashed and waiting to do strikes, probably with targets in mind, they have been restrained. only reason this helped probably gavel anize international community but someone u.s. >> weird that democrats really wanted president to bomb the living crap out of iran, nothing makes sense any more, come back, i want to talk about cassan with you, we have run out of time. >> sure. kennedy: iran is just one of many tough opens u.s. football schedule this season, with china, russia, and north korea all posing serious challenges, but in answer av trade wars -- in an era of trade wars can there one threat to u.s. that tops all others, if so, how do we put that jeanie back in the bottle while we sing we are the champions, joining me, author of new book backlash, brad thor is

back nice to see you. >> you too. kennedy: everyone is comfortable with soviet union as former though. >> i think that biggest threat is china, china has the money ands wherewithal, and smarts, to make a lot of trouble. but when you look around the world, everything does work to russia's advantage too. look at trouble with china, and russia and north korea, iran, they all play-off i've other, they get something, no matter what happens on board. kennedy: that is a really good point, russia hases wherewithal, and the desire to rabble rouse everywhere, they are in syria iran, they hang out in china, but they don't have deep resources like china does, other thing that shin china has and concerns me most is our technology they have stolen from us. >> we have given them technology

under clinton administration. kennedy: a lot of people said that president clinton should have been impeached for that. >> i, agree, we look at sandy berger and shoving stuff in his socks and under wa. kennedy: by the way, not a character in spongebob. >> it was not. so many things are moving on chess board, we were just talking about iran, i think what we're seeing from iran is because the sanctions are working, i think that president trump had a presidential moment he said, i don't want to kill 150 people for one drone. whether 130 millionioion, i thought that was a great moment. kennedy: i did too. >> i believe that in -- >> i wish more presidents would show that restraint. in those moments where really easy, once you are in that situation, to push the button and pull the trigger. >> i agree, and let's not forget we are where we are with iran because of what obama did and did not do, one thing he did not

do, we know the nuke deal but when there was a green revolution in iran we did not back young revolution. kennedy: right. >> we would not be here right now if obama had thrown in behind them but he was more concerned with this deal thinks maybe another nobel peace prize, president trump is mopping you of after obama. kennedy: this was narcissistic and di delusional, it was simply how it looked on paper, and the image that we have the theoretical peace in world was safer because what he had done. >> nik like neville chamber land waives that piece of paper. > backlash, everyone should buy it now. >> out at midnight like a hair potter book. kennedy: look at that beautiful. >> my pleasure. kennedy: coming up 20 democracy to take the stage this week for

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kennedy: there we are, largest presidential field in history, getting a chance to take shots at each other this week, two nights. wednesday and thursday. liz warren the first night facing off against lightweights like beto orourke and cory booker, second night, heavy hitters come in joe biden, bernie sanders, kamala harris and pete buttigieg, they will faceoff against each other, how does a can't dat -- does a cande

come out of these debates victorious, bill mcgurn, so, you know big question is biden. do all other candidates focus their attacks on biden? and should biden attack them back? >> yes, absolutely it will be biden, he in a position trump of after a few debates, in the beginning, debates they treated him like a gaffe line, but once high started winning they -- once he started winning they were gunning for him, he mowed them down one by one. two ways to win, campaign on your differences. and other is what everyone seems to doing how can i get to lift t of everyone in the room. kennedy: and elizabeth warren and bernie sanders, they are in a race to do that right now. >> they are second and third, depending on poll, bouabide en has -- but biden has twice vote

of nearest competitor, this is joe biden's to win in a sense he is different, he is a ex vice president, he has to long strong, and not apologize for his positions, he have to prove to people he can stand up to trump. kennedy: what does he do? does he ignore everyone on the stage, does he ignore kamala and pete and just talk about beating the president? >> i think so to the degree he can. kennedy: but hillary did that. >> hillary is like harlem globe-trotters against the washington generals, that was a rigged fight. none of serious candidates within in. kennedy: i think that biden is going up against much more skilled debaters. >> he has to do, he can say, with cre credibility, i was parf most progressive presidency in white house, obama

administration, we put through health care and all this stuff. and i don't have to apologize about by positions, he is partly popular because he is a little bit more moderate. but he is so far, he has backed down on everything, he flip plopped o -- flip flopped on abortion,. abortion. kennedy: stand up for yourself. >> he is older he has to look strong, not rude strong. kennedy: is there such a thing as biden strong. >> i am not sure about the gaffes, some are insulting but they make you human. kennedy: reagan was quicker with gaffes. >> biden was pretty good he said let's -- he recovered. kennedy: and he was in a

wheelchair, i think that -- >> i don't think he has that black magic any more, i don't. >> we'll find out they will be gunning for him. once he goes down, then it is anyone's game. kennedy: that is why he is avoiding the big ticket events, like the fish fry in south carolina. and convention in california, because, he knows they are coming after him, and not going to be pretty. >> right,. kennedy: it will be ugly thank you bill mcgurn, learn with mcgurn, i always do, topical storm is next. geico makes it easy to get help when you need it. with licensed agents available 24/7. it's not just easy. it's having-a-walrus-in-goal easy! roooaaaar! it's a walrus! ridiculous! yes! nice save, big guy!

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kennedy: a woman fell, sleep on an air canada flight, and woke up alone on an empty plane, crazier? she was the pilot, wake me up before you go-go, this is the topical storm, you can be my andrew ridgely. we begin in australia, yeah. where government officials are not afraid to tackle tough issues faces society. yep this detective put the press in press conference. after he took down a suspect who was running from cops, good news he made the take down. bad news is, he was flagged for targeting because he lead with his head that is a 15 yard pen

penalty. they play ugly rugby like men. anit has been seen 5 million tis since release. the suspect was found making inappropriate comments to teenage girl, if guilty, he will go to deroy moore's campaign. oh, alabama. topic two. let's go to phoenix airport, a man caught a connecting flight. yep. this fellow, have you seen this, he punched 5 tsa agents, phoenix residents say it was a dry punch, they believe that man may have been under the up flew en f drugs or mentallyilil ill, he faces 25 thousand dollar in

bail. spirit air is charging him additional 5,000, he did not declare the beat down before he got to the gate, the agents in video did not suffer major injuries they have all since returned to work. hugelift -. >> hey, there is bubba. topic 3. hasbro releasing a cashless version of monopoly, where a digital banker handles transactions, critic howling that it denies children basic spending lessons by not letting them use cash, but on plus side it does prepare kids for life under a socialist president with no cash. the digital colors will stop bankers from cheating, long time fans are not passing go on this

one. saying that monopoly is cheats like 4 d -- tour de france. and ha hasbro is eliminates community chess, but when you google communities which, every story is about kim kardashian, chicka boom, boom. check your local store ahead of time, don't just run out and buy it or they will stop you. mm-hmm. >> i'm not 100% on that. >> oh, he has got his monopoly. a digital game. boom ! he is going to jail, he won't get to collect 200 for passing go. go screw, you weirdo, topic 4. mug monday -- mug shot monday, this week's winner not inned in flooflorida it was an ohio woma, not hard to pick up out of a police lineup, so sexy, at dia

de los muertos, this is why you do not pass out drunk in front of your high school friends. she did their intentionaly. she is due in court wednesday to plead single, she is in a serious relationship, her boyfriend took her on a relaxing vacation, he, unfortunately he brought too much baggage to the airport, oh. give maya angelo-- give me my g. they missed flight, it is a win, win. >> topic 5. nobody had a crazier weekend than a milleniu a millenium faly got -- a montana family who got stuck with a unbearable house guest, there was a time when bears would steal you're picnic

basket, these days they just' your wi-fi password, he did not stay long, only board game was cashless monopoly, a bunch of doeses, police say this is a miracle that little buddy did not hurt himself, because samantha b show was on tv, he found remote before he found a toaster and hopped in the tub. so sad. he escaped without any booboracles. boos. >> it we'll be right back. with a very special segment, i like to call mouth trumpet monday, play along you brass fans, that is just a taste, i'll be right back.

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[ mouth trumpet noises ] tomorrow night on show, a manly man tuesday. tim cardi, see you. lou: good evening, everybody. president trump pulling back on planned sweeps by immigration and customs enforcement, and today i talked with the acting homeland security secretary kevin mcaleenan this evening. in a talk on the phone, he absolutely denied categorically all charges of leaking, and we take that up here tonight. the nba moves away from calling the people who own nba teams owners despite being owners. and california governor gavin newsom cries foul at the republican party's,