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those two stocks alone, probably bring down about 60 points. 3m also down more than 1%. that is not helping the dow either. we are out of time. we've done everything we could. let's hand it over to neil cavuto. thank you very much. neil: thank you very much, ashley. we're iran back to breaking limits but reports that it has the president reaching his. not talking about his poll numbers which look pretty good. more on that in a second. earthquakes shaking the golden state. new warning this could be the beginning. could billionaire tom steyer shake up the democratic field to look to join it? the jobs boost giving president a big, big boost. the president's approval ratings the highest since he took office. the tide that could be turning for him right now. elena, this is an interesting development because it is like the economy is catching up to his poll numbers or is it the other way around, what do you
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think? >> this is interesting because the economy has been pretty stellar since the president has been in office. this isn't anything new. i think that, like you said, it is, the poll numbers are now catching up to this but it is interesting to be watching, still very early ahead of 2020 which is a lot of people are looking to these poll numbers for a lot of people close to the president's re-election campaign and those working to get him reelected tell me that the economy is the big key here. they're worried if anything changes in the economy, that could be a key thing, a key factor ahead of the election. neil: for now, it does, still have him on defense, strong economy or not, when it comes to one-on-one matches. you point out to me, quite right saying, so, very early in the process. early on is he not benefiting as much as you would think an incumbent president presiding over this type of recovery would be looking at.
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it's a trend i would imagine that he would like? >> definitely. i think something key though here, what a lot of, articles that were behind this poll pointed out was that the president, voters, especially, registered voters are very high approving of him of the result of the economy as an example. when it comes to his behavior, the his job performance in office, a lot of voters were not as supportive of this president. so i think, looking ahead again to the election if the election is based on results, president trump will benefit from the economy can benefit from but more a litmus test on his behavior and performance, that he may be in trouble. neil: good catching up with you,. >> thank you, neil. neil: fed chairman jerome powell will testify on wednesday and
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thursday. everyone is waiting some sort of a signal, when, not tease days if we see another rate cut, the first in this cycle. a lot of people are hoping the end of this month. no guaranties. ed mills and greg valliere are with us. not if the fed will be so exact, greg, betting that we'll see quarter-point cut at the end of the month. i don't know if a, that is such a sure thing and, b, if it is necessary. your thoughts. >> i think it is likely but i agree with you, i'm not sure it is necessary. we'll get rate cuts with the market at all-time highs, with unemployment at 3.7%. at with the labor market this strong, with the economy at 10-year growth rate? i don't understand the rationale for wasting ammunition this time
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around. neil: jerome powell, couple days of testimony, i'm sure they will be up on the hill, they will ask him about his relationship with the president which isn't apparently good and i'm just wondering how he sorts on that issue? >> i think jerome powell thinks the more important relationship is with congress. congress ultimately gives or takes away his powers and the senate is the individuals who would approve or not approve his potential replacement. what i think on monetary policy i can always draw a line what else is going on in washington, d.c. and what the fed does. they seem to deteriorate. those have stablized for now. longer term they're absolutely coming back. do i think we get something in july? i think that is less certain now obviously than it was earlier
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about a month ago. but longer term, these issues will come up and the fed is going to want to insure that they are protecting the economy, are protecting the markets. neil: greg, the one thing you want to step back from, regardless of people's politics on this issue the federal reserve is there to keep inflation at bay and the fear is when numbers are strong and the economic numbers certainly have been as strong as they are you want to keep a watchful eye on that because it could lead to wage inflation. those who advocate that the federal reserve hold off and maybe reverse course saying inflation is not the problem at all. so it has room to do so, especially when the rest of the world cutting rates and puts us at a trade disadvantage. i think that is the president's rationale? >> i think that's right. we get two big numbers thursday and friday, ppi, cpi, wholesale, retail inflation numbers but go ahead.
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>> we'll see what the numbers show but if we put tariffs on thousands of goods, if i have to spend more money god forbid for bottle of bored bow wine, if -- bordeaux, my wine goes up with wine from france, at some point this is going to lead to some inflation. neil: that is very good point. whether the twist-off cap variety or cork. depends on your pedigree. >> exactly right. neil: ed, the fact we have been able to bear the brunt of tariffs effect already because some have not reached us yet. that first wave was imposed, you foe, while goods were still in transit, not to be affected. only affected those leaving the various shores at this point. so, we have not really been subject to this. the longer this drags on, the more we will be. then what? >> then the consumer might start kind of impacting the debate here. what we've seen so far the trump administration has been very
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good about only putting tariffs on things that the average consumer does not get the end product for. the next wave -- neil: other than fancy wine. >> wine, stinky cheese, when it pose to sneakers, goes to clothing, goes to things people buy back to school, that was the real threat with the next $300 billion worth of tariffs from china. he held off on that. i think partly to give a pause to the china trade negotiations. if he is looking at his election, if he is putting 25% tariff on those goods, that is when the economy gets impacted. neil: it hasn't happened yet. i guess the hope, greg, that it won't happen, that a deal will be scored. the fact of the matter, i believe the chinese said remove tariffs almost as a precondition to getting talks going again. last time i checked we have not removed tariffs, where do we stand? >> that is a big obstacle. that is part of the narrative.
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the other part that the fed has to consider, the idea of a genuine budget crisis in washington. we cried wolf before. debt ceiling, no budget spending levels, that could be a complicating area for the fed as we go into the fall. neil: thank you, gentlemen. we're getting word as expected, iran indeed enriched uranium beyond the purity limit, a where the nuclear deal would be essentially kerplunk. confirmed by reuters they have effectively brought it beyond what was called for in the deal. now what do we do? after this. hey! i'm bill slowsky jr.,
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neil: all right. they have officially cheated. they have officially gone back on the deal with these latest reports iran enriched uranium beyond the purity levels set back in 2015. blake burman, for reaction if any, from the white house. this was as expected as you reported. what is the latest? reporter: reaction came moments ago to from mike pence. he spoke to the christians related to the annual summit. >> iran should not confuse american restraint with lack of american resolve. we hope for the best but the united states of america and our military are prepared to protect our interests, to protect our personnel and our citizens in the region. we will continue to oppose iran's maligned influence. we will continue to bring pressure on their economy. and under president donald trump america will never allow iran to
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obtain a nuclear weapon. [cheers and applause] reporter: that from the vice president here in d.c., neil, just moments ago. when you look at the iran nuclear deal the level at which to iran could enrich uranium, uranium purity was up to 3.67%. now they are enriching at 4.5%. many experts were worried that iran could go up to 20% that is level some were eyeballing. they haven't gone there just yet, as some within europe are still trying to save the deal or save certain aspects within this deal. when you talk about weapons-grade uranium, that is all the way up to 90%. we heard pro president trump. he said that iran better be careful. neil? neil: blake, thank you my friend. blake burman at the white house. former assistant secretary of state under bush 43 robert charles, what he makes of all this. robert, now what? >> what is the president is
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trying to do is compel diplomacy with graduated sanctions. he has a lot of tools at his fingerprints. some are economic. some are cyber, some are kinetic or military. i think you have to keep in mind what the stakes are here. this is an irresponsible leadership. this is a country frankly can't manage conventional weapons and promotes terrorist activity around the region and around the world. obviously we don't want them to have nuclear weapons. the president made it, the vice president, made it clear we'll not let that happen. there are a number of ways to manage that. one thing people need to remember, percentages are deceptive. the 3.67% uranium 235 enrichment that was permitted that they have now broken actually, it is a little bit deceptive because it takes 60% of the overall effort just to get to 5%. then if you get to 5% enrichment, it is not a big jump from there to 90%. so they could go to 20%
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enrichment within matter of days. they could go to 90% enrichment which is weapons-grade matter of months. some say two months, some say six months, some say a year. we'll not let them get to the point where they have uranium enriched to 90% for use on nuclear weapon. it will not happen. we know where some of their centrifuges are. we would reich diplomatic solution so their economy can tradethe to world. the oil production is a sixth of their original number. the people are suffering because the the minute leadership won't take a diplomatic act to respond to diplomacy. neil: this is not prescient on my part but they seem to be playing us off to the europeans separately talking to the russians and chinese to see what they can salvage the deal. they are reading be -- this
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president long a critic of getting involved in longstanding mid-east actions that he would take action. what do you think of that? >> let's unpack that you're absolutely right on the european reluctance to give up on a failed deal. that deal was in summary a bribery for delay. the obama administration give them hundreds of billions of dollars to delay. but at the same time, it legitimatized them as some kind of a future nuclear state. so we're not going to let that happen. we have to bring in allies behind us. don't doubt this president's resolve. i think whatever he has to do to protect this country, our allies in the region he will do. neil: so he has got a lot more proof that those who signed on to that deal, who are now trying to, you know, still hang on to it desperately, he revealed iran to be what you long argued it
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is, a cheat. >> yes. neil: wouldn't this in a weird way make his case more formidable? >> yes. i mean i think one of the things that ought to happen is the allies ought to line up behind us now, say, yes it's time to either compel secession of a nuclear program or negotiate out a real end to that program. then open up their economy in full relations. don't forget russia and china too. russia is trying to play in this game and has been a big supporter of iran. they are really not that relevant. china, interestingly despite we have ongoing negotiations with china, china may benefit from supporting the united states here. the last thing we want is some sort of a conflict that shuts down the arabian gulf. they don't want that. that oil is also important to them. there are things vectoring towards a real diplomatic breakthrough but you have an intransigent theological leadership over there that oppressed its own people without any compunction. we have to think about how do we
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compel them now to come to their senses and realize there is no good that comes from pursuing nuclear weapons for iran. neil: well-spoken. robert charles, good seeing you my friend. >> thank you. neil: in california they're still worried about another one after the aftershock that was more powerful than the first one. seismologists are at a loss what happens next. one has been pretty good that is coming up next. after this. that move us forward. every day, invesco combines ideas with technology, data with inspiration, investors with solutions. because the possibilities of life and investing are greater when we come together. ♪
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>> now was i wrong two weeks ago? somehow give the impression to people that i was -- men i successfully opposed time and again? yes, i was. i regret it, and i'm sorry for any of the pain or misconception being -- [cheers and applause] neil: all right, some are calling it joe biden's apology tour. there apologizing for remarks
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that he said might have offended those who were a little ticked off within the party that he had done deals and talked to and negotiated with so-called segregation its at the time, if for no other reason than to get stuff done. that was then, very different and chastened joe biden now. it might be too little too late. we're getting word that billionaire tom steyer a very, very rich liberal, reportedly reconsidering a white house bid presumably because biden might be tripping up, one of the reasons he didn't entertain a run, he thought it was biden's to lose. fox news contributor liz peek on all of this. what do you think? part of this he comes in part of the reason that biden is stumbling. >> i think it is broader than that. it is indictment of the entire field. obviously it is pretty early to expect that to happen, really biden was the one everyone felt
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would bring moderates along, that great, you know, unvolatile group in the democratic party that doesn't have a candidate except for joe biden. one theory is he was backing elizabeth warren, liked her economic message, even though he is a very wealthy person. that's right. but, you know apparently he just lost faith. the real question, is this sort of vanity run and is hoping to influence the party through being out there? let's face it. he has this pac that has 8 million people, signatorys who are trying to impeach donald trump. if he becomes the presidential candidate he will have much more clout. neil: but will the party treat him the way they did with howard schultz, when he was suggesting a run as an independent? that just, you know, you know the grief he endured. >> yeah. neil: this is different. in steyer's case he would run within the democratic party. >> there has been a little bit of pushback from the left. why doesn't he instead of
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spending 10 of millions of dollars promoting himself, why doesn't he get behind the candidates -- neil: there will be a lot more of that. >> there will be a lot of that. his big issues are one, impeachment. he has been working for that for months and months. democrats say that is improbable quest. neil: percentages have grown. >> by the way, tens of millions of dollars on those issues, that particular issue which could have gone towards supporting other kinds of candidates. i think it is interesting, the other big issue he has is climate change. he formerly thought jay inslee was going to be the person carrying that banner but jay inslee has gotten nowhere in this race. tom steyer again feels combining maybe a left-leaning economic message and very strong climate change agenda could be his path to the white house? however improbable. neil: you know, liz, what i notice, there is a clear battle going on for the soul of the democratic party. this is not unprecedented. goes on for both parties over the year but particularly
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nancy pelosi, in this interview referring to the fact right now the four who get the most attention, rashid talib, pressley, ilhan omar, and alexandria ocasio-cortez don't represent the broader party. she said all of these people have their public hatreds and their twitter world but they didn't have any following. these four people, and that is how many votes they got. i don't know what -- >> that was a tremendous smackdown. neil: immediately she responded, told her, she responded. something is going on here. they have taken off the gloves. >> i thought that was a huge smackdown of nancy pelosi. talking about the votes for the border bill. neil: none of those four voted for night they voted against it. after complaining for months about ill treatment of people. neil: she has a point. if you're so concerned about this. >> a broader issue, interesting "washington post" abc poll is out trump against various
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candidates, basically running neck-and-neck although trailing biden by a sizable margin but the most interesting question, buried deep in that poll was, would you vote for donald trump over someone basically calling themselves a democratic socialist? trump wins that by 6 points, 49-43, even though 66% of the respondents are democrats and independences. i thought that was interesting. you can be sure any afternoon date, whoever it is, they will be branded by trump and campaign as a democratic socialist or a socialist. i think he wins on that. neil: you know, liz, i hadn't had a chance to talk to you about this, a comment, the tweet the president made almost two weeks ago, you think, he said i lose, markets will tank. the gist of what he was saying any one of these guys want to get rid of tax cuts or good many of them, they want to overturn a lot of regulatory relief i provided. you can kiss everything good-bye? >> i kind of think he is right. neil: really?
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>> market really soared when he was elected because in fact that regulatory haze of the obama years had been a big issue. in fact it has been rolled back. i think the administration, i've told them this, sort of indirectly, not that i have any particular voice, they need to have stories of companies that have been hurt by all those regulations that were sort of spread out across every single industry under obama, that have been eased a little bit, what that has meant for small business. it has, i hear the stories all the time for small business owners but i think it's a very big deal. interestingly on the other side, on the taxes, the tax foundation is out with a new study showing corporate taxes which all of those democrats want to reimpose at higher rates, really hurt workers, really hurt wage growth. they have numbers to back it up. you may disagree with them, but they have done the work on this. if you look what is going on in europe and other places, raising taxes on corporations or also on individuals stymies growth.
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i mean that is one of the reasons the eurozone is in such trouble and the united states is doing better than almost anybody. so, look i think he is right. whether, how much is the market going to sell off? who knows. neil: what he was saying particularly about the regulatory issue, that started long before the tax cuts had their impact. that was something that was almost immediate? >> no question about it. again we saw what happened. people starting to think, obama did environmental things that hurt the energy industry. no, it was almost every industry that had great whacking, sort of flappers of regulation thrown on them t caused uncertainty, neil. which is the absolute death of investment. neil: in that environment you don't invest. >> yeah. neil: thank you very much, liz. we're talking about regulatory relief. nowhere more apparent on virtual regulations rolled back. my special guest at 4:00 p.m. on "your world," epa administrator andrew wheeler.
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>> i know it was very anxious for you. there is a lot of uncertainty. i know that people are on edge. we don't exactly, you know, know when is the next one going to
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happen? i would say that the cook county fire department, we're prepared, we're ready to respond. neil: the thing is they don't know, they don't know what's next, no one does. they can maybe hazard a guess now and then but californians are sort of nervously waiting the next big one, remembering the case of last week's magnitude 7.1 quake, stronger than the original 6.4 quake. there is no way of guessing whether the next one will be even more severe. geophysicist is here on all of this. it is hard to calibrate, i understand, but obviously californians are getting increasingly anxious but there is no way to sort of predict these things. so what's the best they can sort of plan on? >> in california the one thing we're certain of there will always be another earthquake. we got lucky this earthquake happened somewhere with a low population density. if we had it couple hundred miles further towards the coast
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it would be a very different story. people can prepare, practice, dot earthquake drills, doc cover, hold on, or lock cover, hole on if you have mobility device, build the muscle memory, so when the next earthquake happens, you're ready to go. neil: the followup quake happened 24 hours after the first one, when it was 7.1 magnitude versus the 6.4 original one, was that in of itself unusual or no? >> it was a little bit unusual but not terribly rare. every time there is an earthquake there is one in 20 chance that a larger earthquake will happen afterwards. then we called the original earthquake a four shock. the main earthquake or main shock, then everything happens after that is an aftershock. it is actually a little bit nice when we have a fore-shock, everybody had earthquake, just had practice, maybe they have done more preparedness. they certainly remember the drop, could have, hold on.
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unfortunately earthquake does not label the earthquakes for us, but we don't know whether there is a foreshock until after an earthquake. neil: when we did the saturday show on fox news channel, we talked to a number of people who were reporting neighbors sleeping out on their driveways for fear being in their homes should there be an aftershock. is that taking it too far? what do you advise them to do? >> in north america we do have very strong building codes, so for the most part we're worried about objects inside of a building falling on people than the building collapsing. it is important to stay one place. if you're indoors, stay indoors. if you're outdoors, stay outdoors. if you run indoors, you crossed most dangerous part of the building, the doorway area. you have roof tiles, fixtures, broken glass all of that. if you're indoors, in bed, things are close the blinds on windows so the broken glass
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doesn't fall on you. secure bookcases to the wall. make sure heavy electronics are strapped down. if earthquake happens, cover your neck, put a pillow on. have shoes and flashlight under your bed. that is a good tip for any disaster area. neil: mika, good advice, thank you for taking the time. >> absolutely. neil: we're still following developments in china by the way. iran, from from the top of the show, we told you what is going on there, these trade talks, what has been a mild selloff when you think of records we scored on july 4th. edward lawrence where the talks my stand. reporter: neil, we'll have a little more after this week. phone calls are happening back and forth with the chinese trade delegation to decide when the next round of talks will happen. they eliminated concessions they agreed upon in the trade deal. trade experts say it es up to the chinese to come back to the table to work this out.
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>> we'll find out quite quickly how much of what china reneged on are they willing to put back. that may not be leaked right away. that may be kept confidential to save face on both sides. but the long term approach here that president trump has taken, that the cheating has got to stop, that has pretty wide support in our congress. reporter: chinese expert michael pillsbury pointed out that the president has never called the chinese the enemy. on the other hand the president maintained throughout the talks that he has a good relationship with the chinese president. a spokesperson for the chinese foreign ministry saying in no uncertain terms the u.s. is not their enemy, adding that china and the night stand to gain from cooperation and lose from confrontation. now the other trade win the administration needs is the ratification of the usmca. right now there is no set timetable for the house speaker to bring the vote to the floor. the senior, a senior administration officials tells me that there working in good
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faith and constructively with members of congress to address concerns. that official adding, that congress needs to approve the usmca as soon as possible. the u.s. trade representative, robert lighthizer said it would be a catastrophe if it does not get ratified. democrats formed a working group that will meet weekly with lighthizer to look at changes to the agreement. mexico ratified the usmca as is. canada says they're prepared to do the same. the canadian prime minister met house speaker nancy pelosi last month, telling her it's a good agreement with the right amount of worker protections. neil, seems like the other countries want to get it done, we'll see if we can get that done. neil: a very big if. edward lawrence, thank you very much, my friend. as you know there is battle brewing to get that question the president want included in the 2020 census, are you a citizen of this country? the supreme court effectively punted on this, to let the administration explain its
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neil: well it's happened. boeing loses an important contract with a saudi arabian airline. instead of purchasing 737 max jets from boeing, they're going to go the airbus route. that was a big blow to bowing here. could be a sign of things to come. to early to tell. it is weighing on the company's stock today. meanwhile the justice department is assembling a new legal team to take on the census fight that a high court essentially punched to a judge to decide if the administration can make a more interesting argument that the question on citizenship should be included. the guy behind that issue, former election commissions chair joins us. good to have you back. on this argument wilbur ross'
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people, the commerce department, argument for including this question came from you. i don't know what the truth is but, well, you tell me. >> well, you know this, is something that many americans have been concerned about. i am someone who did advise the president early on. i don't know who the president heard about it first from, but the bottom line the supreme court said they want to hear all of the reasons that went into the decision to, remember restore the question to the census. neil, the citizenship question has been on every census but one between 1820 and the year 2000. it is the most basic information that any country asks. virtually every advanced country in the world asks it. one the most important reasons i think we need it on the census, look, if you have a district with 800,000 people, congressional district, they're all citizens but you have another district over here that has 400,000 citizens and 400,000 aliens, you are giving the people in that second district
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twice the voting power because only citizens can vote as the people in the first district. the principle of one person, one vote demands we create district with equal number of voters, equal number of citizens. there is another point in the constitution -- neil: effectively made, maybe to the best of your efforts, commerce department's efforts, what the supreme court seemed to be saying you need to give me a more compelling rationale. what would that new rationale be? >> it could be what i just described t could also be -- neil: in this case, right, and it wasn't good enough, right? >> well in this case the commerce department said the rationale was better enforce the voting rights act. the citizenship information helps for that reason. here is third reason. the 14th amendment, section 2, requires that the u.s. government must know how many citizens it has. the president has a duty to issue at this point an executive order to get the information the constitution requires us to have. neil: so we understand, that
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given the attention you've been getting on this, you're entertaining a senate run, that true? >> that is true and since you asked, i will be announcing today, indeed i will announce it right now i'm running for the u.s. senate. neil, on this issue, also on issue of immigration there has been a real lack of leadership in the senate. the senate has to come along kicking and screaming to help the president. i think the president needs someone who can lead the charge in the united states senate to make sure the wall gets built, close the loopholes in our asylum law, make sure our immigration laws are better enforced. i'm willing to step in, that's why i'm running for the u.s. senate. neil: there was talk you were being considered for an administration, immigration related job. they were nervous about that. that there is controversy to you, some baggage on these issues, the wall thing and everything else, so you decided to heck with it, i am running for senate, is that true? >> well, actually a better way to put it would be this.
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i can do a great deal of good for the president and the country is specially on the immigration issue where i worked past two decades in the senate. i found advising the president for the past three years, during the campaign, while he has been president informally has been very effective. the president and i speak frequently about illegal immigration, about various policies, building the wall. so i can do both. i can help him as he crafts executive policy to help the country and do what he needs to be done in the country to reform our laws so we have better immigration system, and laws are fully enforced. neil: reason i asked, kris, apparently "axios" publish documents go back and show you allied yourself with organizations that had ties to white supremacist groups. that was among the reasons the administration, the trump administration sort of had a cold hands approach to you for any administration appointment. can you address that? >> yeah. i saw that when it was in the paper too, had to laugh.
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it was southern poverty law center which is trashes all kinds of people, including people on this network if they don't like our situation where our immigration laws are not enforced. so the southern poverty law center well kobach must be associating with white supremacists with no basis. i spoke of various conferences none of affiliated with white supremacy. they trash people. what rnc was saying a southern poverty law center, a left-winger. >> group accused kobach of this, there is no truth to it whatsoever. neil: controversy seems to follow you. that isn't unique to you, i'm just wondering comments, an outspoken critic of yours, you raised his name, worked with sam brownback, he says of you, has the reverse midas touch, everything he touches turns to crap. what did you think of that? >> oh, that gentleman is a very bitter man. he is somebody in kansas who
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hoped one of my rivals would win an earlier race would continue his gravy train influence he had within the kansas state political scene. so you know, i don't put much stock in what he says. look the president knows and americans who have been following me know for the past 20 years know that i have helped do all kinds of things. i defended our i.c.e. agents in court. i drafted arizona immigration laws, two laws. one supreme court approved virtually unanimously, the second one, sb 1070, 5-4 the court upheld main provisions. neil: senate interest, kris, has he said woe campaign on your behalf? >> he president does know about it. we spoke on the phone a few days ago. i will not say exactly what he said but he was encouraging, encouraging that he would help you? >> you know again i try to maintain confidence in the communication i have with the president. he was certainly encouraging
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that i let him know i made the decision to run. neil: crisco -- kris kobach officially running for senate. thank you very much. >> thank you, neil. neil: starbucks second lives port he hadly meeting with police apologizing over an incident that was inexcusable. that was now starbucks saying that, after this. ♪ xfinity mobile is a wireless network
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neil: all right, starbucks executives reportedly meeting with tempe, arizona, police officers who were booted from a starbucks store there. the public relations crisis management expert bill harlow what it could mean for the company. the backdrop on this story as you know all too well, bill, another patron at the starbucks was offended with the policemen
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coming in, didn't want to be there, they kicked the policemen out or they left to avoid any provocation. how has starbucks been handling this? >> i think generally they have done pretty well. they put out apology that was pretty complete, had good language in it. a couple thoughts though, i thought they were a little too slow getting the apology out. the incident happened on 4th of july holiday, thursday, took them until late saturday to get the apology out. the news will not wait. they should have been a little quicker. the other thing i will say about the apology, while the language was good, they already said they have taken steps to insure something like this never happens again. you can't say that. they have 30,000 stores and the globe. somebody doing something stupid in one of those stores as we speak. we'll try our best to make sure something like this will never happen again but they shouldn't promise something which they can't deliver. neil: in this case it was a
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patron there, somebody already in, didn't like the officers coming in to get coffee. i'm surprised. the officers left of their own volition. not as if the store wasn't holding the door open for them to make sure they did leave. what did you think of that? >> i think officers handled it well. they didn't want a confrontation. they left when asked to do so. their representatives handled it well. there was a employee at starbucks over solicitous to views of one patron. ignored that how that would be received by anyone else who might want police officers or anybody else to be welcome in one of their stores. neil: obviously establishments of any sort i call, toe the vanilla line, not to be extreme. there are those on extreme end, nike, like that kind of controversy. others do everything they can to avoid it. coca-cola comes to mind.
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for a store like starbucks that has attachment to the left, affinity for its views near and dear to progressives, this can cut both ways. how does it handle that? >> wealthy i they handled it pretty much the way they did, they want everybody to to welcome to their stores. if they lean too far left or right they risk offending anybody, if they want them to feel comfortable here, that is the right approach. if they choose up sides, they will offend as many people as you they please, people calling for boycotts, as you saw over the weekend where people were offended by the initial reports of action by the barrista and response to a patron. neil: right. all right. thank you, bill, very much. bill harlow. >> thank you. neil: crisis communications expert and then some. you probably heard already the president's approval rating ticking up to the highest it has been of his presidency, even
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neil: all right. this hour, we've got the latest on maybe a little democratic intramural fight. nancy pelosi saying progressives are getting more aggressive. they are speaking back. it's all printable. and the brits in a snit over the president. meanwhile, the women's u.s. soccer team are champs yet again. what it could mean for women across the country when it comes to being treated with equal pay
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parity. after this. neil: all right. well, the president's poll numbers are strengthening. the highest of his presidency. and the economy, a big reason for that. you wouldn't see it certainly in the down numbers right now but we're not that far from records reached a little more than a few days ago, the wednesday before july 4th. it's his handling of the economy, more to the point, that seems to be turning things around for him. forbes media chairman steve forbes with us, political science professor and democratic strategist. you just became a dad. congratulations. well, you have the write-offs. congratulations. now, what do you make of what's first of all happening with the president's poll numbers and do you think it's the start of something? >> well, look, i think his handling of the economy is clearly the thing that's driving
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a lot of these poll numbers. if you look at the cross-tabs on that poll, you can see that. the reality is for the president, 44% is in line with where people have been. after two, two and a half years of his presidency, everything has leveled out and maybe it will slowly creep up. for democrats, that's a real concern because they have been acting he's at like 23% or 30%. the reality is he has almost the same support he had when he won the election. it's really important to look at the economy. that's going to be, as we talked about before, one of the big factors driving his re-election or not. >> i think the economy will be the factor. the president's numbers are likely to go up as pollsters are able to identify likely voters. his numbers will go up. the problem for democrats is it is very tough to be an incumbent president in any circumstance and when the economy is this strong, it is almost impossible. so for democrats, they really have to watch this. the president's numbers, to your point, have been stable. they are very good in terms of
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the economy which is going to be the deciding factor, which is where all of this spat between the progressives and moderates comes into play, because it's going to be the rust belt that decides this election once again. neil: you know, i know i'm going to hear it from trump folks who call me all sorts of nasty things, but i always say he should be up a lot more. it's a great economy to crow about, the markets and all that, and he's not. what's wrong? >> part of it is reaction to his style. some like it, some don't. that's been the dominant thing. i think you are going to see more and more hammering of the economy in the months ahead which is why i think you will see a trade deal get those uncertainties out of the way which will boost investment, help even more. the other thing to watch out for, though, talking about deporting one million people. it's one thing to deport ms-13 gang members and people saying yeah, they should get them out of the country. but if you get videos of kids being torn away --
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neil: the same thing, i remember the gonzalez thing. the court ruled it's what you had to do, that process of grabbing that kid. >> so on the border thing, he's starting to win that issue. people are realizing there's a disaster there. so what they do with this i.c.e. thing, not i.c.e. itself, they are doing a great job, but trying to do a million? that's going to be -- that's fraught with peril. neil: i was going through the numbers candidate by candidate, how the president does versus right now all the major candidates. he trails the most joe biden. he's narrowed the gap a little versus some of the others but it's clearly biden who is the biggest threat to him. do you agree with that? >> yes, for sure. but it's also interesting if you go down the poll numbers, the candidate that actually is the closest with trump is a socialist. in other words, given a candidate that's a generic socialist, that candidate does very poorly. the trump campaign knows this. they are trying very heavily to
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brand candidates as socialists, all of them. biden, it will be hardest to do that which whiith which is part strength. you really can't look at these numbers because the polling, don't forget, was accurate on hillary. i think the democratic candidate will win the popular vote by more than hillary won by, even if they lose the electoral college by the same amount because turnout in l.a., in new york, in all the democratic strongholds against trump will go up but that doesn't change the places they need to win to win the election. neil: in those states, it's very early, we have gotten into this dangerous to telegraph based so early on polls, he's trailing, the president, in all the states minus one that he swapped into the republican column, yet some of them, like pennsylvania states that are dealing with record low unemployment. i know that's without a name or nominee attached. then what? >> you know, that's exactly it.
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even his 10 down to biden right now, we still have donald trump versus x. we don't know who that x is going to be. that is going to matter a lot. my prediction is, it is going to be incredibly close, i think democrats may win the popular vote but if the economy stays this strong, the president is likely to be re-elected. i agree with you on immigration. that is a huge problem for him if they start this deportation. but i would suspect if the economy starts to falter, he is going to go with nancy, he is going to go with chuck. they are going to do a big infrastructure push. he will pump that money into the economy so if we start to see a downturn, he will i donuse thaty to pump into the economy. his numbers on the economy need to be strong throughout august, september of 2020 -- neil: the trade situation, the tariff situation was the worry, the longer that drags on, the more the impact likely would be, right? >> it is. but the upside is if they get an agreement, i think they can, you
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are going to see a lot of investment that's been held on the sidelines because of the uncertainty about the rules. that becomes unleashed. watch out. then you are -- neil: you don't think all that is factored in already? >> certainly in the stock market, yes. they always try to anticipate things. but the economy itself, the real economy which is what people really pay attention to -- neil: companies like apple and all that would be skittish to commit more resources would be more inclined? >> yes. especially startups and small businesses, too. so it could really go his way. the key thing on the democrat side, i think what pelosi is really worried about, it's not about the presidential election. it's about keeping her speakership. she knows there are 20 to 30 districts which flipped to the republicans if their party is seen as extreme and party extremists play right into the hands of republicans. neil: -- as she said with these four extreme left-leaning congresswomen who voted against
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this $4.6 billion border package, but on to that issue, how many of you here see what the president is gaining on the economy and losing in other areas, and that's why it's looking kind of tight? >> i think that's a good part of it. i actually did read the cross-tabs on this poll. if you go into that, you can really see that that's making up for a huge amount of this. if that economy number starts to go down, it becomes very problematic. it's actually the only issue where he's above water. on all the other issues in question, he's either slightly under water or -- i think it is one of the top issues. neil: are they wasting their time? do democrats waste their time bemoaning a recovery that's not fair to everybody? >> the democrats should be fighting him number one on health care. that is the issue that most voters on the democratic side care about that gets people out. neil: it got them the house. >> it got them the house. but you do not make the promises they made, we talked about this,
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in the debate about giving health care to illegals before you insure you have a plan to -- neil: you have may joa majority democrats -- >> not the right thing to lead with. >> that's where you lose the moderate districts that will cost nancy pelosi the house. neil: the president is going to push this so-called transparent drug pricing where you have bipartisan support. he could actually take that issue and run with it without redoing health care per se. >> yes, specific things. one of the things i think they may go for is removing all the restrictions on health savings accounts so you can use that money for over the counter medications instead of prescription medications, you can have it even if you don't have a health insurance plan. remove those restrictions, make that an issue as well and price transparency. not just with drugs, with hospitals and clinics. hard to do. they are starting to push on it. make that an issue, say you should know what it costs in advance. neil: the wild card is iran. we don't know what will happen.
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black swan developments, the markets can't brace for or know what's going to happen. but iran is pushing it right now. they are saying we are now over the levels that we secured the deal with the uranium enrichment levels. even the french are saying keep doing this, even we're out of here. play that out. >> desperation. he wins on that. people don't like iran. they know it's a source of terrorism. hammer that home. terrorism central. neil: you have to do something about it, right? >> you keep tightening the restrictions. that economy continues to implode. they will lash out and fight -- neil: you don't do any surgical strike? >> you don't have to do it. let them be the aggressor. then you have the upper hand. >> i should also say that it will depend a great deal on who the nominee is. up against someone like biden, an issue like iran might become a much more serious foreign policy debate. against someone like elizabeth warren, trump may end up with the upper hand on something like foreign policy which would be quite shocking to me as a democrat. >> i was just going to say, when
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else would france or any of the other allies join with trump? you see them doing this as iran pushes. so iran's best bet probably wouldn't be to push at this point and have the allies stay away from trump. but the more they push, the more trump's going to win on that. neil: i always think of macron, you are making this so difficult for me. thank you, guys. don't go anywhere. when we come back, we will talk more about nancy pelosi. she took the gloves off regarding they call them the renegade socialist congressmen. that might not be too fair or too accurate. she is letting it be known they do not speak for all democrats and they certainly do not speak for me. after this. don't miss your golden opportunity
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against the border bill saying all these people have their public whatever and their twitter world, but they didn't have any following, they are four people and that's how many votes they got. i think they got a little more than four votes. anyway, rashida tlaib responded, hitting hard at the speaker. >> to diminish our voices in so many ways, again -- neil: it was really strong. you just had to understand how strong it was. anyway, we are back with steve and zane and dana. what's unleashed here is something beneath the surface, not unique to the democrats but for the time being a big issue for the democrats. this split between the establishment and those who are anything but. how bad is it? >> it's bad. that's why those democrats haven't had any legislative victories in the house. they don't dare bring these issues to the floor because they know it's going to accentuate the split.
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so what she's doing here is by picking on a few that are far extreme, she figures those seats are safe. she can criticize them all she wants. those seats are safe. what she's concerned about are the 20 to 30 seats they got in the last election, moderate seats they fear they are going to lose if the party's painted itself as extremist. that's what she's concerned about. neil: i think what got her going, she cited these four. congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez, rashida tlaib, ilhan omar and presley, they are effectively the ones sending a different message. in the democratic party, they also speak of the passion in the party so by going after them, do you risk them getting alienated from you? >> pelosi's got to play this well. frankly, while she may have the political power at the moment, those four women and others who are part of this new wave and new class, they have the people and public power.
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i know nancy pelosi dismissed that. look, in her many years of government she's learned you can lead with an iron fist and that does work a lot of times, but this generation of people is different. neil: they aren't shrinking violets. >> that's right. they won't accept the idea, these people were elected with mandates to be staunch progressives, to be a thorn in people's sides. that's why they were elected. that's how they are going to get re-elected. i think nancy pelosi needs to over time be more accommodating to some of these people and say you know, this writes the future of the democratic party is headed. you can't just put these people down. i think it will be a real problem for her if she keeps doing that. neil: when you take them on, they are human beings. they are going to come back and take her on. i'm wondering whether any of this bubbles up at the democratic convention in the summer. >> you know, i don't know that there is enough numbers there to bubble up. i think one thing we forget with all of the focus -- there are loud voices and we often confuse and this is what nancy pelosi was talking about, the voices on twitter and facebook and elsewhere, with the democratic voting majority which is much,
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much more moderate, which is why you see a joe biden so far in the lead, in addition to his name recognition. so it's a really -- neil: it's a very good point, that you are attaching to joe biden and nancy pelosi, by extension, steny hoyer, that old guard that ocasio-cortez could come back and say that's the problem right there. >> she could and this is what i think nancy pelosi would be wise -- of course she's a brilliant politician -- would be to bring along some of the younger left wing progressive or moderate people in the party, and put them up, hoist them up. because quite frankly, the democratic leadership in the house is far too old, they have been there too long and she represents that in the minds of many of my students that are democrats. she does need to bring along the next generation and maybe think about stepping aside in 2020 which has been talked about sort of quietly, although she's been very good about taking on the president for democrats. >> frankly, if i could just add, she's promised to do that.
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she said this would be a transition phase. the way she's acting doesn't really seem like that was a sincere commitment because you wouldn't be dismissing these people who are the future, whether you like it or not, that's what the voters said, you would be trying to bring those people aside and maybe she is doing this privately, talking to them and saying let me show you how to do this better and she's doing it in public to play her politics. neil: dismissive comments about facebook and instagram and all th that. >> it just shows how this is the reality of the world. these are not little fun tools. these are how people are living their lives. these are instrumental to how people get elect and how elections are won. you can't dismiss this stuff anymore. >> this is why joe biden is in trouble. you're not old enough to remember back in 1972, there was a moderate senator called muskey, big lead in the polls, then got crushed in the nominating process by the far left of the party. neil: that was where the party was, went down to huge defeat.
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>> that's the danger today. that's why she's going against those handful. she wants to distinguish the extremists in the minds of the public from the rest of the party, even though they all agreed on the new green deal and all that kind of stuff. neil: 1972. you were talking earlier about 1872. all right. thank you, guys. outstanding job. we are down about 125 points right now. a lot of that on anxiety over a china deal but more with what we do with iran. the iranians have made it official. they have cheated on that agreement. they are way above their enriched uranium levels that were called for in that agreement which is why the french are getting upset and the european community is getting really upset, and donald trump is watching all of this. after this. - why are drivers 50 and over switching
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of american resolve. we hope for the best, but the united states of america and our military are prepared to protect our interests and protect our personnel and our citizens in the region. neil: nevertheless, iran has gone way past the limit on enriched uranium which it agreed to in the 2015 nuclear accord. already french president emanuel macron is indicating a top adviser will be traveling to iran tomorrow and wednesday to try to de-escalate all of this. that might prove easier said than done. former trump and bush 43 state department staffer christian whiton on all these developments. what do you make of this? >> it's very dangerous. uranium 235 which is what we are talking about here is the easiest path to a nuclear weapon. it's like the bomb we dropped on hiroshima. you just need to mash one critical part into another that forms the critical mass and you
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have a bomb. so you know, this is a pretty serious development in our history of pin-pointing the moment when you have a nuclear breakout is not terribly good. didn't work with the soviet union or china or pakistan. i was in the government the first time when it happened with north korea. so very dangerous. neil: i'm wondering now, they made it very clear they're cheating. in fact, they're bragging about it. the french want to send a representative to tehran to sort of de-tensify things. we might be past that already, right? >> i think so. what france ought to do, what we all ought to do at a minimum is go to the u.n., do what's called snap back. under the u.n. security council resolution that sanctified the iran nuclear deal which is still in existence, the security council resolution, we could have snap back which would place restrictions on iran, sanctions that would apply to europe in addition to the ones we have put on. we can also here in the united states stop making an exception, so-called civil nuclear exception. iran has absolutely no need for a nuclear energy program.
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the country is awash in oil. yet we even continue to essentially allow some technology to head its way to sustain the supposedly civilian nuclear program. ultimately, we are going to have to strike them militarily, i'm increasingly convinced. neil: you don't think just a much tougher sanction alone is going to do the job the way things stand now. >> no. i think, you know, if you go back and look at the soviets when ronald reagan came around and i think today, the chinese and iranians are looking at this with trump, they need to know this is more than a four-year flash in the pan. i think they need to see trump re-elected. they will really need to have to absorb the fact this is a new approach by the united states that's here to stay. i think it is. but i don't think any amount of misery meted out to iran is going to cause it to abandon its program. honestly, i think we should wait until its next provocation in the persian gulf, then strike back not just at that threat but also degrade its nuclear weapons capability by using military force. neil: thank you very, very much. we will watch it closely.
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good seeing you again. meanwhile, deutsche bank is cutting about 18,000 jobs. that's about one out of five of its global work force. deirdre bolton has that and more from the new york stock exchange. deirdre: you are exactly right. deutsche bank basically struggling after two decades. we remember it in 1999 when the company bought bankers trust. the idea was to compete more with the european counterparts and then also its u.s. competitors as well. it's just not worked out. two decades later, 20% of the staff are being dismissed. some analysts even saying too little, too late from a strategic point of view. they are really going to pull out, really reduce equity sales in trading, put the focus more on corporate banking services, for lack of a better term. you can see deutsche bank moving lower. if you look at the u.s. competitors, jpmorgan, morgan stanley, goldman sachs, they are also moving lower as well. most people i'm speaking with here say that is more in relation to what the fed is doing. as we know fed chairman powell
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going to be speaking again, testimony on this wednesday. so financials at least here are trading separately lower for other reasons. but most analysts saying that deutsche bank's loss will be its american competitors' gain so those stocks we just showed, goldman, jpmorgan, morgan stanley, ones to watch that may actually pick up some of the business there from deutsche. so no way else to say it. these cuts are brutal for the company. the most ever on record, $8.3 billion worth of cuts. also, i would be remiss if i didn't highlight that we are watching boeing. if you look at boeing's stock, it is moving lower as well, down around 1.5% at the moment. a saudi discount airline is actually buying 50 airbus jets. so this is one of the first tangible signs that boeing's issues with the 737 max model are going to be multi-year, long-reaching. the saudi company was thought to be ordering from boeing and then
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recently at the paris air show said well, we're going to go with the airbus model. so we just want to highlight at the london air show, boeing is still holding on to some business from british airways but bottom line, it just lost a pretty good deal to airbus. back to you. neil: thank you very, very much. that airline is called fly a deal which you would normally not attach to saudi arabia. that's the discount airline buying 50 jets from airbus, not from boeing. meanwhile, billionaire jeffrey epstein has already pleaded not guilty to the sex trafficking charges earlier today. this is just the beginning of a case that could spread far and wide. it affects both parties. we'll explain after this.
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neil: all right. the washington, d.c. area hit with flash floods, lot of cars stranded. this is what it was like in the nation's capital. can you imagine just getting around town there? all right. then there's california. residents on edge after two earthquakes in two days, fierce that another big one could be coming. the second was stronger than the first one there last week. california republican sate assemblyman on how officials are dealing with this. assemblyman, thank you for taking the time. >> thank you for having me. neil: i would imagine a lot of people's nerves are frayed right now. what can be done for something
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you don't know what happens next? >> well, certainly the last four days have been long. the community of ridgecrest dealt with a 6.4, 7.1 and close to 3,000 aftershocks. so it's important for every community, every city and county, to begin to update their emergency preparedness plan. that's the first thing we all should be doing right now. neil: and just refresh us on that emergency plan. what's involved with that? >> every city and county need to work with their local hospital, their law enforcement, the first responders. we can't thank the first responders enough for coming to our aid, you know, when the 7.1 earthquake happened, i went to the emergency command center in our local community and the chaos and just trying to find situational awareness, all those things are very important to try to come to grips with what's happening. so what you do when the hospital's closing, you have to
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evacuate. what do you do when the roads close, you know, what do you do with the gas lines rupturing. all those things need to be prepared for. this earthquake was felt not only in this county but all the way down to san diego into las vegas. so every community needs to focus on that right now. neil: it does make you wonder, if this had occurred in a more populated area, closer to the coast, it would be a very different situation, wouldn't it? >> we were very lucky. not only was it out in the desert but it was july 4th weekend so a lot of people were traveling. that's why every city, if you are a big city or small city, there are unique challenges. we should learn from what happen happened. we had to have our local hospital be evacuated, we had roads closed to a neighboring community so we had to ship water and food there. there's a lot of things that need to be reviewed. i think as we now move into the
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next stage of recovering and rebuilding, now we have to debrief and see what worked, what didn't work and what we need to do as a state to make sure everyone is prepared. neil: you guys deal with a lot, and there's always the political pressure on both sides, but i think both sides would readily agree when it comes to these type of developments, you are well-schooled and well-prepared to deal with anything and everything. assemblyman, thank you very, very much. >> thank you very much. neil: be well. the president is preparing an executive order to deal with something that right now has gotten to be the bane of a lot of people's existence. sky-high drug prices. what if they would make them very real, very available to pretty much everyone? hillary vaughn on capitol hill with the latest. reporter: well, congress has been holding hearings addressing the drug price problem, at least trying to get into the details of it, but the president is looking to take action on his own, teasing on friday that he would pursue an executive order that would include a favored nations clause that would essentially let the u.s. pay the lowest price for drugs that are
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available to other countries for the same drug, they would pay the same rate. the president tweeting this. quote, last year was the first in 51 years where prescription drug prices actually went down, but things have been and are being put in place that will drive them down substantially. if dems would work with us in a bipartisan fashion, we would get big results very fast. the president describing the order, saying it would essentially take effect very quickly. he would roll this out through executive order. he thinks that other countries are getting a better deal on drugs and we've heard from drug executives here on capitol hill explain that the u.s. is subsidizing a large chunk of other countries' prices simply because we can afford to and that's really the only way that these drug companies can make a profit. but there's still a lot of details up in the air. how the policy would be enforced, if it would apply to every drug on the market and if it would impact the number of new prescription drugs that hit the market because of this. until those questions are
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answered, a lot of drug companies are holding their breath waiting to figure out how to react. neil: hillary vaughn on that latest development. the reckoning at the white house is since republicans have gotten burned on the health care issue in the past, better to handle it piece by piece. first off on the drug issue, something that unites democrats and republicans, conservatives and liberals who are very familiar with the fear that drug prices themselves are the ones that are way out of whack, maybe dealing with that problem is one way to get everyone rallied around dealing with the bigger problems. we shall see. meanwhile, let the deportations begin. we don't know exactly when, we don't know exactly where, but the administration is ready to pull the trigger on pulling upwards of a million illegals out of their homes. the devil's in the details. after this. ♪
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to go and find and detain and then deport the approximately one million people who have final removal orders. neil: immigration official ken cuccinelli saying i.c.e. is ready to deport a million undocumented immigrants, those whose cases have been adjudicated and they are ready to be deported. that might prove easier said than done, finding them, particularly when dealing with sanctuary cities and towns and states that harbor them, whether there will be any creation with federal authorities trying to retrieve them. indiana republican congressman jim banks with us now. good to have you. >> great to be with you. neil: we were chatting briefly during the break, i don't know where they come up with that number but obviously, it's a consistent number, 800,000 to a million. but the process is going to be tough, right? >> no doubt about it. the american people certainly hoosiers in my district appreciate this administration is doing what we have long
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expected them to do, to deport those who have had their day in court, who have -- most of them, by the way, did not show up for their day in court. they have received court orders to return to their country of orig origin. they defied that court order and by estimates of this administration, nearly a million have stayed here in spite of that. neil: so they are past their legal limit to keep on here and fight back and forth. >> that's right. they have had their opportunity to go and seek asylum through the legal process, they were denied in court their legal status for ail soo sylum, have ordered by the court to return home and have stayed in this country. neil: this is not the 12 million or more who are here legally. those are who have been told to go and are not going. >> to your question of how does it get done, where i come from in northeast indiana, hoosiers appreciate that this administration is doing what should have been done long ago. at least go through the process and try to deport as many of
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these illegals who have stayed here in spite of having their day in court and being denied asylum and deporting them back to their country of origin. neil: we were also chatting during the break, there's the image of seizing these individuals and i always harken back to ilean gonzalez and of course, janet reno said the law is the law, you have to go back to your dad in the united states -- or i'm sorry, cuba. i'll get it right. that image at the time of the little boy being taken for all the right reasons, legal reasons, just stuck in people's minds as cruel, inhumane. could it happen again? >> i don't know. but what i do know is that this administration is serious about enforcing the law. we are a country of laws. the rule of law matters to the trump administration. as you and i talked about already, this isn't unprecedented. president obama deported record
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numbers of illegals in the same situation who were denied asylum and returned them back to their country of origin. neil: he holds the record for all of this. >> this administration, though, does more than others receive criticism from different media outlets and others. i'm sure that those optics will be especially as we head into 2020, will be attempted to be -- neil: we didn't have a lot of video back in the day of president obama pushing this. it was the law of the land. it's still the law of the land. i think a lot of media will be following this. >> that being said, the optics of enforcing the law, though, that's certainly popular where i come from as well. neil: in other words, send a message you can't do this without thinking this is going to happen if you do. >> yes. neil: how is this all going to look back in your district and a all, the way the administration has handled the border issues, the way it's dealing with the migrant issue, the way it's dealing with these kids in these facilities. i know a lot of those facilities were built during the obama
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years. i know you talked about that and all. they are crowded nevertheless and the president gets fingered for being heartless. >> sadly, it's not fair. this president, president trump has done more to ask congress for funding to update these detention facilities and for 56 days in a row, he asked congress to act and give him the funding that he needed to update the detention facilities. we finally passed that a couple of weeks ago before we left for this recess. neil: what did you make of the biggest critics of that, like alexandria ocasio-cortez, rashida tlaib, ilhan omar didn't vote for that. >> pure hypocrisy. where i come from, the families in my district who i spoke with when i was home for the july 4th recess, they see it for what it is. alexandria ocasio-cortez, rashida tlaib, others, playing politics rather than acting and doing what needs to be done to take care of these detention facilities so that we do have a better -- we are taking better
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care of these children and others who are being held until they have their day in court. neil: a lot of them have been saying the reason why they voted against it is they didn't want our border folks still in charge of taking care of this because it would be giving, you know, the fox in charge of the hen house. >> a lot of talk about these, especially the progressive wing of the democrat party supporting open borders, this would prove that to be the case. the bill that they were fighting for would have prevented any dollars from pay raises or paying our i.c.e. officers and just taking care of the basic fundamental needs of our border enforcement efforts at the border, so the aoc wing of the progressive wing of the democrat party opposed the bipartisan bill because it would allow for those efforts to be funded. it shows the hypocrisy -- neil: taking care of the kids, improving these facilities, yet it always gets driven apart.
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>> that is the sad reality. i have only been in congress for two and a half years. i'm baffled that there's 80% of the immigration issues that we agree on, as we have proved two weeks ago with this bipartisan bill, we can come together to fix the fundamental needs. neil: it was hard fought and it was bipartisan. thank you. meantime, with this world cup win, it's sparking a debate off the field as to whether women are getting a raw deal when it comes to pay, not just on the field but almost all fields. after this. this is the couple who wanted to get away who used expedia to book the vacation rental which led to the discovery that sometimes a little down time can lift you right up. expedia. everything you need to go. expedia. at comcast, we didn't build the nation's largest gig-speed network just to make businesses run faster. we built it to help them go beyond. because beyond risk... welcome to the neighborhood, guys. there is reward. ♪ ♪
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[ chanting ] neil: the women's world cup victory is sparking a debate over equal pay. fox business's ashley webster with me, susan li with me.
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susan, what's become apparent to a lot of folks, there's a huge pay gap between the male and female soccer stars. it ain't fair, it ain't right and especially now with the fourth big championship, it's got to end. susan: exactly. we were looking at the numbers, arguing about this earlier. i don't think it was an argument. ashley: no, we agree. susan: we agree women should -- neil: you made me nervous. sunday look at t . susan: you look at the ratings, 25 million. that's even more than the world cup a few years ago. yes, they should be paid more. sponsorships have been 50% since they won the last time around. why shouldn't they be paid more? did you see the lawsuit? they are only paid 33% of how men get paid. how is that fair? ashley: "the washington post" did a whole story saying it was almost impossible to figure out comparing the two. neil: apples to apples. ashley: different pay structure, different collective bargaining. prior to 2017 it was 38% of what men earned. after the new cba went into
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effect, it's up to 89% of what the men earn. that's still not good enough. but it's closer. but they accepted that deal because the only other option was to go on strike. the women's team is so much more successful than the men's team and they are bringing in revenue, no doubt. susan: and the viewers, too. ratings are much bigger. neil: now there's at least more of an even keel stand to make. before it used to be just out of pure fairness, right? susan: i don't know about that. four world cups, you can't deny. with four world cups, you can't deny they have been much more successful. the u.s. men's team didn't even make the last world cup. ashley: they didn't even qualify. neil: look at the time. by the way, soccer is the new -- ashley: are you swearing? neil: the new prime minister of greece, pro-business, not quite the populist but the guy he
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replaces was supposed to be the populist wave. ashley: i was there when he gave this impassioned speech back in 2015, we are going to rip up this horrible austerity plan, we are going to get everyone a job. neil: he never wore a tie. ashley: no. neil: i told gasparino that. >> we don't want him as head of greece, believe me. he overpromised and this is the result of that. someone who is more trumpian, if you like. less taxes. susan: i would also argue he was dealt a bad hand, going through that tough austerity stage in greece's economy. he barely got the economy over 2% growth. let's see if this new guy can deal with that. neil: it is what it is, right? i still think the tie thing was a big problem. susan: you think? neil: i'm wondering where this goes, with the message for the world. i think of a conservative
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government that against all odds returned to power in australia, conservatives making inroads in germany, angela merkel's party in a world of hurt. i don't know. it still seems to be a world that might favor donald trump next year. ashley: go ahead. we have seen it in south america, too. all those countries, even the brazilian president, there has been i guess an uptick in the number of center right and right wing parties. what's wrong with less taxes, less regulation, create more jobs, boost the economy. it's a theme. susan: instead of looking at it as anti-immigration i look at it as pro-business and pro-economy. look at macron. he got into power -- macron. yes. he slipped into power with a pro-business agenda as well which is let's get the economy going. neil: you got to deliver the goods. all right. finally, the british ambassador, he's under fire with this leaked memo where he disparages the
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president, calls him an idiot and a fool, inept. susan: clumsy. neil: do we know how this leaked out? ashley: no. neil: think the brits are standing by him? ashley: prime minister may's office, she's just hanging in there, she's still prime minister -- neil: she is still hanging around? ashley: she is. listen, she said the official word from number ten is look, it's the ambassador's job to provide an honest and unvarnished opinion. i thought if anyone understands an honest and unvarnished opinion it would be mr. trump. they also said prime minister may doesn't agree with this assessment but they encourage their ambassador to be candid. neil: wouldn't you be candid on the phone with someone? ashley: no, these are in cryptic cables. neil: someone released that. ashley: they are calling in the police saying we need a police investigation. susan: they didn't deny it.
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liam fox, the trade minister, will meet with ivanka trump and apologize. i found really interesting he's apologizing that our civil service or elements of our political class have not lived up to expectations. sorry. neil: he's gone, isn't he? susan: i don't know. ashley: if boris takes over he will be out the door, yes. neil: he seems to be the front-runner. ashley: he is, at this point. neil: when is this all decided? ashley: i would say the next two or three weeks we will have a winner. they are in the process of who is going to get the final nod. neil: you will be happy to know theresa may is still there. ashley: still hanging in there. neil: more after this. from fidelity. a visual snapshot of your investments. key portfolio events. all in one place. because when it's decision time... you need decision tech. only from fidelity.
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a lot of analysts missed the apple phenomenon. some pounce on developments like these as a buying opportunity. we'll see. 4:00 p.m. eastern time, epa administrator andrew wheeler joining me on "your world" on the fox news channel. charles payne is next. charles: good afternoon, i'm charles payne. this is making money. at this moment stocks are falling. investors are waiting to see what the fed's next move is on interest rates. boeing, along with apple, seeing another setback. president trump's approval rating on the rise thanks in large part to this booming economy. i will get reaction from anthony scaramucci in a moment. not everyone feeling effects of the economy. a quarter of americans think they will never retire at all. we'll break down the numbers and more on "making money". of the. charles: the old political adage is true,

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