someone. i will say it is a crime, a misdemeanor, if you don't return that money. if you stole more than 1500 is a felony. trish: good to see you, i'll see tomorrow, guy benson is in for kennedy. guy: thank you. a battle royal in democratic party, pitting moderate question mark, nancy pelosi against aoc and her sassy crew of far left aggressives, who will come out on top? can the party survive? i think it might, i am guy benson in for kennedy, two sides have been fighting for months on everything. family feud has exploded over funding are in border security, radicals hate moderates 4.6 billion plan, they say it does not do enough to protect illegal migrants, but until recently, a lot of infighting played out behind closed-doors but not more. pelosi went off certain unnamed

democrats today, according to reports pelosi telling fellow democrats, you got a complaint, you come and talk to me about it, but do not tweet about our members and expect us to think that is okay, and reportedly saying if they are considering using social media to attack fellow them -- democrats, they should think twice. then changed it to think once. respect my authority. people understand that her warning was directed at 4 up start progressive freshman who have been ticking off democrats from coast to coast. pelosi reportedly refers to them at the squad, alexandria ocasio-cortez, talib. and omar and presley. this also generational. so-called squad used social media to sidestep party

leadership. and pelosi show fed up with it she told "new york times" -- all of these people have their public whatever. and their twitter world, but they didn't have any following. they are 4 people, that is how many votes they got. squad not taking it sitting down, aocfiring right back in tweets, saying, that public whatever is caus is -- called pc sentiment: congresswoman omar joined in tweeting: >> pelosi warned all this playing into hands of white house and g.o.p. 467. >> it seems that administration is is a wear of this egging the democracies on. >> 4 female democracy that nancy

pelosi is brushing back, i think they are freshmen members, major meow moment, in a huge catfight, really ridiculing them, they voted against the delegatic aid package, going to the places, they preen around saying oh, my god look what the is happening then they vote against the aid. guy: catfight? that is problematic. can nancy get a handle on young lefty winner snappers -- whipper snappers or doe up starts have the upper hand. joining me tonight ned ryun. and richard fowler. good evening. >> good evening. guy: ned, we saw back and forth, is this a bona fide civil war or overblown? >> i think it is. there has been a civil war brewing between far and central left for some time in democratic

party, we're seeing it come to surface, add to this rhetoric, aoc and her colleaguings are trying too lineup primary challengers, that will only heat up, and all i'm trying to do is figure out how i can get jet fuel, throw it on the fire, another way to look at this, really an argument of public feud between ignor ignorant nart and political realists, nancy pelosi knows political reality, she is speaker because of the 30 or 40 centrists who won in swing district, last thing she want its 4 lefties to pull house caucus too far left and cost her speaker ship in 2020. guy: true, richard, we debated this earlier on fox news channel, unless you have changed your position, i think i know what you might say, is this a civil war that is irrippable. i.

>> no, i think that ned has fuzzy math. but with that said, what we saw, nancy pelosi is right, when you look at votes and how the caucus is voting, they are falling lockstep with speaker pelosi, let me be clear, important for us in this party, that everyone has a voice, the 4 members have a voice, they have a right to be heard, they are in powerful committees, pelosi put them there. but they do not leun run the caucus, nancy pelosi runs the caucus, she has been clear about that. guy: this is why "washington post," aoc firing back, upset about the quote persistent singles out, it is out right disrespectful, singles out as a newly elected woman of color, playing th the woman of color cd

on pelosi that is quite the bomb to throw. >> republicans have seen this movie before. have you certain people within party setting expectations for the base here. and reality down here, people get upset, what is your response to what richard said. >> it is particulars meeting political reality, i think that was part was problem with tea party, they thought they would come in take dc by storm, that is not how it works, i had a dad in house for 10 years, thereo two worlds, real world then the world within a house caucus, i think that speaker pelosi saying, you might have 4.5 twitter followers, but in the house caucus you are a backbench freshman, there might be 4 of these, but you look to grassroots, grassroots activists

and small donor base, they are far left, i think in short-term, speaker pelosi and the establishment will hold on, but long-term as that grassroot ands small -- base builds are in left, i am not entirely convinced they won't win. guy: richard. >> difference between squad and freedom caucus. the caulks held up votes and shut government down. guy: they had the power. >> the 4 individuals do not have the power, to answer argument with -- upcoming electiontion with these outspoken voices joe biden still sit as the top. guy: for now, true, ned and richard a. >> thank you. guy: battle over equal pay for female athletes went into over drive and overtime today as u.s. women soccer team took a world cup victory lap ticker-tape

parade through canyon of heroes in lower manhattan. they are chanting equal pay, the team remained focus on bigger goal of obtaining equal pay with the men, team captain megan rapinoe making media rounds anywhere they have her, providing they lean to the left, today she said for the moment all about unity. >> this time to come together, this conversation is at the next step. we have to collaborate it takes everyone. this is my to everyone, do what you can. do who you have to do, step outside yourself. guy: i like the shades, nothing said time t to come together lie alienating half of the country by refusing to meet with president. but democrats new york, signing

legislationi extending equal pay law, and mayor de blasio said, if he got elected to president, he would sign an executive order guaranteeing equal pay for all athletes, note sure that is a low. is it time for female athlete to earn same as male athletes? panel, starts with attorney, daniel mclaughlin. brand new book, panic attack, man with the best name and pointiest hair on set robby suave. and kat timpf. hello. >> hey. guy: kat, i got a kick out of this. a soccer joke. >> i like that. guy: megan rapinoe was saying, you will not silence us, she

strikes me as least silent person. >> i did not see anyone trying to silence her, i thought was really strange. also talking about unity when you are clearly putting yourself in a separate category, saying i don't want anything on to do with the republicans, no, i won't go to white house, i never understand the white house boycott, as i libertarian there has never been a president where i have been like yes, everything this dude thinks. but if i were invited i would go, when i am invited and where i go. -- anywhere i go, especially if there are snacks. guy: i think that trump does provide snacks. >> maybe she does not think there will be snacks. this whole things be avoided. guy: robby. i was talking about this on video today, we had callers calling in she has every right to say what she does, she does. but, we also have right to notice and be annoyed and argue with her, that is how it works.

>> it is a -- annoying, most americans get annoyed when hollywood people and athletes, all they want to do is talk about politics, when they get a microphone instead of enjoying their moment. are people really that angry. it is about the whole black aerial princess from little mermaid casting no one was angry about the casting. >> i was the furious. >> no one was mad about black stormtrooper, they are trying to say there is a converse to drum of ratings in the national circus. >> i am a huge sports fan, partly it is an escape, a diversion in politics. >> not any more. >> the world champion she comes in goes on a political tv tour, that is her choice but that feels poisonous. on point of equal pay for women in sports, i'm trying to figure out how it would work beyond

soccer, say de blasio not his way, what wnba be paid as much as knicks or nets regardless of revenue. >> i don't see how that works. an-- the difference in revenue between the men's and women's game, the american people are better than men with the world cup. if you pay the same there would be a crazy multiple affect of revenues, i don't think that the solution is government, i say this as someone who likes government, and thinks that government can do certain things, but there is space for a sponsorship, and for other ways, where women -- can be paid what they are work, they are incredible, i saw the parade today. accidentally, i was at dmv. but i think there are ways that

market can speak to this, i think that actually, they could be a nico nike. >> a part that wonders if megan rapinoe is going colin kaepernick route it works. >> she better watch it. >> women earn a greater percentage of the overall profits from their soccer than the -- total is lower but percentage is higher. >> i think that equal pay is not enough, women should make more than men, because we have to buy tampons and lip gloss, you do not. >> i thin i -- one thing is equ, she was one of first athletes to kneel at a game in support of him. she is clear about why she does it. it is separate from equal pay piece, but she said i stand in solidarity. i have empathy for

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guy: our recurring man-made crisis over national debt coming to a head again, it could put wallets of every american at risk, maybe lead to another government shut down. the treasury been using. extraordinary measures to keep things afloat. but a new report said they could run out of money by mid september, if lawmakers cannot agree on a spinning solution before august recess, government could partially default on debt, that means benefits for millions

of americans might run dry, could lead to a stock market crash or a recession. and job losses. despite that potential fallout, white house senior economic advise rooadviser larry kudlow t is not a huge problem right now. most republican lawmakers have at some point said it is huge. you they will be to solve it? joining me now utah republican senator author of "our loss declaration" senator mike lee, great to see you. >> thank you, guy. guy: so let's talk about this coming cliff, again lunching from crise -- lurching from crises to crisis, the white house is involved, what should happen in mike lie coul lee coue his way. >> stop dilutes ourselves, we're

playing with fire, this is a ticking time bomb, overtime it will harm us if we don't address it. sooner or later, our mounting national debt am get to point where the interest on debt is unsustainable. we will not be able to pay it the more we kick can down the road, greater possibility that can will hurt us, i am we should start right now by enacting some type of a permanent structural spending reform, difficult for congress to circumvent like a balance bottom amendment that would move constitutional threshold, goal post for future debt ceiling increases. guy: that would lead to tax increase? >> i would be worried about that, in the balance budget amendment that i proposed, it would require a super majority vote in congress, any time you want to raise debt ceiling or raise taxes or spend more than

18% of gdp, they should require a super majority vote in congress, otherwise congress is taking money from future generations and giving it to today a generation form of taxation without representation, we fought a war over that and won that war. guy: i love larry kudlow, he is a great guy, but i see him pooporacling thpoopthe deficit,, gosh maybe republicans will start pretending to care about this when a democrat wins next, that is cynical but it feels true for a lot of people. what is your response to comments from kudlow? >> sure, and look, i agree, i love larry kudlow. the guy is fantastic, but you know, he has a job, a boss, a client. he is out the -- party line of current administration, i think you are right regardless of

political party of person in oval office in moment those of us in senate and house have an abgation tab-- obligation to lok long-term, and beyond party politics this say problem, and we're fooling ourselves if we say it is not. guy: it does not come close to dealing with long-term obligation, to something happier, your book, tell us about your new book. >> i wrote "our lost declaration" i want to help reconnect american people to principles underlying founding of our great country, we don't fly union jack and we don't sing god save the queen, this was accepacceptance of the human so, the. it tells stories of american

revolution that were underlying declaration of independence. guy: you have these historical anecdotes in the book, you say forgotten stories, people may be wondering, history buffs it is interesting, but what is the application today. >> it is that although we no longer have a king, or a monarchy and no longer subject to national government based in london. we still run the same risks human nature is still what it is, instead of a kingdom today, we're subject to a large sprawlinsprawling tragedy -- administrationive bureaucracy. twigger triggering same concerns voiced by to thomas payne. guy: coming up, another woman today accusing epstein of raping her when she was a min minor.

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putting them on notice. i am here is a, we did what we did, because we wanted to see ep epstein go to jail. guy: but the problem circumstance epstein served 13 months, it was a part time gig, he was able to leave jail ar fo2 hours a day, 6 days a week to go to work, as another epstein accuser came forward today alleging he raped her when she was 15. >> did he rai rape you. >> he did. firsforcefully, knew what he was doing. and i don't think cared. >> did you tell him your age? >> i told the recruiter, i mentioned. it in front of him. >> you were 14. >> yes, he knew my age. guy: recruiter? eepstein faces 45 years in prisn

for charges he now facing, with me in studio, criminal defense attorney, author mike. how much. >> right now we have initial indictment in this case, still potential for more charges, so statutory maximum is 45 years, but we know that from raid in his apartment it is possible he could get charged with additional offenses, including child pornography, they carry stiff penalties. >> some lawyers have said there are double jeopardy concerns because of this plea deal. how can they mining the the feds -- means the feds get around what seems like a blanket deal? >> it did seem like a blanket deal, there is conflicting language in the deal, said he will not be subject to prosecution in the district, means southern district of florida then other language said

romaine lettuce wil -- that u.s. u.s. will not prosecute him, we don't know what the victims or, we know years but which particular instances in the new york case, it possible we're dealing with new conduct. >> you have different jurisdiction, statute of limitation questions. game this out, as a lawyer, as a prosecution what is your play, and defense. >> if i am prosecution, i like my odds, saying he will not be prosecuted in this district, policy says we don't bid other r unit in this deal. that will be a challenge for prosecution. but i am pretty confident if i am a prosecutor this is not binding me for new conduct. guy: i wash acost -- i watched acosta today, high answered some questions he was pretty sobber and calm, does it wash, do

people who spent time in the courtroom said this makes sense or does it ring hallow. >> i think interesting to watch federal prosecutor, he is talking about his seem as u.s. attorney to be embroiled in such a at this time -- tit-for-tat debate. there was a 53 page driement int what could from charged epstein, my reaction, u.s. attorney office does not like to get embroiled in these kind of debates, it is unwere in nat ity did, i think that time will tell. guy: states attorney saying that acosta's account is untrue, mike chase, thank you. >> thank you. guy: all right, so far seems that president trump is still standing by his labor secretary. today reporter can acosta what might happen in president changes his mind. >> i am doing my job, if at some

point president decides i am not the best person to do this job, i respect that. that is his choice. i serve at pleasure of the president. i thought yesterday he was kind. and he showed great support. >> several top democrat called for acosta to resign, many republicans not jumping to his defense, should he be updating his resume, the panel is back. robby, watching him today, what were your overall reactions. >> i thought he did okay, but it did not all add up, his best defense it was however many years ago it was a different time for country, we did not cultural let's takly, take victs seriously. guy: you think that is true. >> that is undeniable. that nade, ther naidoo said thel

a lot of questions about, if he was saving day what about 53 pages, he said it was rolling dice, there was all this evidence. even with us living at a different time. >> it does not make it okay, the fact it changed now and the way it now is right way, i think -- way that and people talk about this is unexcusable, sex with under age girls, no, that is rape, we have a justice system people get punished for drug offenses severely, but then if you actually rape someone, a lot of times you can get away with it, if you are a powerful man that is not okay. guy: rich, influential,. >> yeah. >> i have been a lawyer for about 10 years and dealt with federal prosecutors for many, they are aggressive, so what shocked my was that fact this there was a year long lobbying

campaign by defense attorney to try to make this ca to go away,t was 13 -- 18 months. reduced to 13, 6 days week in his office, today secretary acost is aid icosta said it wasy knew about 36 victims, the dime, there were -- indictment there were 36 victims. jewel knew of about a hundred victims, i don't understand how federal prosecutors did not know more about this and sweetheart deal of a-time came. guy: home leave from prison, that is severity of the crime, versus what he got such an imbalance, there is no doubt, and also lack of precision in language about the deal. >> did you intent him to never be prosecuted again, or just -- there is that. >> thing that normally clear, this is district you are

prosecuted, nonprosecution agreement applies to this district. guy: pol politics, if you are acosta, do you say, i am soy so wounded by this i am a distractiontio on my boss, he in a reelection,. >> i think that it is distracting, you see how lean yen thlenientthe deal was. then, media cycle doesn't move quickly, governor of virginia is still governor of virginia despite that black face, we don't know who he was the. i think hard to say, but i think right now, a dir distraction

own this will keep coming up. guy: talko there is also a new allegation to fed found child pornography in his safe, that is a crime. >> just having possession of child pornography is a crime. guy: you think more charges will come? >> i am certain of it, to point of secretary acosta, he to his credit he took -- ar more ques questions. if it gets difficult for trump administration, i can see him saying -- >> you can see trump firing someone? >> i think he would leave. >> double down. guy: we'll talk about something else, not endorsing that. >> another year. >> keep coming up. >> there is a report that epstein shipped himself an

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states, ape 18, questioning the constitutionality of the aca . this latest fight could get back to the supreme court but, if the top court strikes down obamacare. do republicans have any plan to replace it this time? joining me indiana republican senator, a member of senate budget committee, mike braun. >> good to be here. guy: you will get no argument from me, obamacare is a failure on its own terms. i have always believed that federal government requiring every citizen it purchase a product is unconstitutional, this argument finally -- prevails in authorit in in cours thrown out, then what? is there now a plan among your

colleagues to replace obamacare. >> so, obamacare was doomed to fail. because it was big government. in cahoots with big health care. he'll chunk -- health insurance. i took on insurance company, things had to change. underpinnings of opponent care -- obamacare, people did not believe me as a conservative republican, i said my plan covered preexisting conditions be no caps on coverage, and that part was okay. because that ship has sailed. if republicans are not out there everyone one of us, democrats will win again. to be honest, i don't know of any republican now who is not behind covering preexisting conditions be how do you bridgeg cost down. >> a bill, that is he knelt heah

committee has a lot of my ideas out there. competes, tell people what you are charging. if we don't endorse it by a lot of republicans, there is another guy, bernie sanders, medicare for all, that will win the day in the long run. guy: legislation you refer to, bipartisan. i think it sounds lining yo like supportive. if obamacare fell because of court do principles you talk about, have they taken legislative form, are republicans ready for this? >> i believe that if this is really going to work, just like i was to floor today, the industry snides t needs -- needs to know you with president of united states both chambers of

congress, democrats and republicans say, hey, get with it be tra transparent, i think l still have to nudge or push them with legislation, that legislation that just got through health committee is just a start. i think that industry will dig in. as they realize they need to fix a lot. guy: well, keep in mind industry goes away. if single payer passes. >> no, no. the stray does not gindustry doy are there as providors, they have one payor that is federal government, they won't like that but hospitals, drug companies and doctors, maybe less of insurance companies but industry will be there but with one business partner. guy: and senator, i am just very curious too see it goes down will the republicans could stuck

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