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unborn, we have got to guard this i am know proud of the judiciary domain and the intelligence committee. they went in and tried to pull out of that to paint the picture so america could see it. hopefully there won't be ladies like the lady at amash's town hall meeting who said they didn't know there was anything of this regard in the mueller report. the speaker is right. she told us earlier she wants to gather all the information and make sure we have everything we need to paint that picture. what the american people do with it is another thing. but we'll not stand by and fail to give them the total picture.
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and i, too, thank in mueller for coming forward for service to his country. but when mueller would make a decision they liked, it's we love you, you are the greatest thing since ice cream. but as soon as he said something they didn't like, it's oh, you are a bum. come on now. we had to see through that. thank you. >> as we acknowledge the greatness of our chair jerry nadler and chairman schiff, i want to acknowledge he lie gentleman kusming. he d. elijah kusming. his research aloud us to take to court, we won the case.
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the decision was a beautiful statement on the ability of congress to have oversight. it's just a remarkable decision and now of course the administration is appealing it. but i thank you, mr. cummings for your great leadership. the mueller investigation could not do the president's personal or business connections. one of those connections could be through the russians, and that's what we want to find out. as we go to questions, i just want to say that i do believe what we saw today was a very strong manifestation, some would say indictment, of this administration's cone of silence in their cover-up. this is about the oath we take to protect and defend the constitution. but some of the actions that the
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administration may have taken we'll see through our investigation, they have jeopardized our national security by strengthening the russian' hand in undermining our democracy. liz: top democrats wrapping up their take on the mueller hearing. but president trump euphoric. the democrats pumped up the mueller hearing as their super bowl. but critics are saying they belly flopped. there were fireworks, highlights and low lights. we'll dig into tonight, a nasty episode in american history that proved how fox it the swamp is. mueller refused to answer as many as 200 times. jim comey republicans claim is showing his bias in full
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technicolor. a lot of leaders just spoke. reporter: this has been a lot of news all at once. you just watched the democrats respond to the testimony. the president joyful over that testimony. but you saw nancy pelosi say she will continue the investigation and saying she wants more details on the president's finances. jerry nadler says robert mueller did not exonerate the president. so president trump has arrived in west virginia. you can see that he's in the mass of folks that are right there. the president is there for a fundraiser. the president trying to talk to folks there. he was june lent about what happened. it's basically a victory lap.
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[crowd chants usa!] you see president trump. he signed a couple hats. almost taking a victory lap based on what happened with the testimony. the president saying he basically liked what he said he believes mueller did not do a good job. president trump: what he showed more than anything else is this whole thing has been three years of embarrassment and waste of time for our country.
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and you know what? the democrats thought they could win an election like this. i think they hurt themselves very badly for 2020. reporter: democrats tried to get the former special counsel robert mueller to say the president obstructed justice. >> based on the evidence we heard today, i believe a reasonable person could conclude at least three crimes of obstruction of justice by the president occurred. >> i am going through the elements with you does not mean that i subscribe to the -- what you are trying to prove through those elements. reporter: the president starting to get into the car and move the beast. you can see secret service agents with their hands on his back as he's shaking hands.
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mueller concluded there were no conclusions on criminal intent. >> as we say in the report and i said in the opening. we did not reach a determination as to whether the president committed a crime. reporter: the president saying their counterparts who wanted to see this show or movie, it did not play out the way democrats hoped it would. other republicans pointing out the president let the russia probe play out. >> at any time in the investigation, was your investigation curtailed or stopped or entered? >> no. reporter: it seems the democrats would like to keep going. you heard nancy pelosi saying she needs more investigations to get at this president. liz: let's get to the fbi assistant director, bill gavin.
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this is i think robert mueller has not testified before congress in six years. here is what was interesting today. this striking exchange between robert mueller and john radcliffe, a republican. by mueller's standard a person under investigation is guilty, not exonerated until investigators find innocence. >> can you give me an example other than donald trump where the justice department determined a person was not expon rated because their innocence was not conclusively determined? time is short. i have gout five minutes. you can't find it because i will tell you why. it doesn't exist. liz: that was one of many instances. what's your reaction to that? >> i think it's kind of
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pathetic. everybody look at bob mueller today realizes that he wasn't in the a-game. my concern is two-fold. this whole thing of innocents until proven guilty, they had no proof of anything. the president shouldn't be above the law, but they tried to shove him below the law and that was a terrible thing for them to do. liz: mueller testified that collusion and conspiracy are not the same thing even though the mueller report says quote they are synonymous. watch this exchange with doug collins, republican. >> collusion and conspiracy are not synonymous terms? >> no. >> page 180 in volume one of your report it says collusion is largely i mom plus with conspiracy as the crime set
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forth in general stir statute. you said you chose your words carefully. are you contradicting your report right now? >> not when i read it. >> so you have change your answer to yes then? >> if you look at the language -- i'm reading your report. it's a yes or no answer. page 180, vol one. this is from your report. liz: your reaction to that? >> looking at this whole thing, i am not too sure if he's familiar with that report. it makes me think that perhaps he didn't have his hand on the tiller and maybe he didn't have a lot to do with writing the report. liz: maybe president trump was right all along about the 12 angry democrats. >> it goes to show almost every single thing that happened today. with mueller today when he couldn't tell the difference --
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he was look for the word collusion, he got that mixed up. it was just terrible. liz: matt gaetz, the republican had an interesting takeaway. he said paul ma d paul -- paul manafort's personal tax returns were not within your purview. why did you go after him tore tax he vision what he it's outside of your purview. >> i think mueller used that outside my spur view as a way to -- my purview when he didn't want to answer a question. liz: watch matt gaetz say things about how the mueller team was biased. >> when people associated with trump lied, you threw the book at them. when christopher steele lived, nothing. when glenn simpson met with
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russians, nothing. maybe the reason why was the discrepancies you focused on. >> your time has expired. liz: former fbi director james comey, watch how he characterized the mueller report. >> this is a chance for the american people to learn what he found. it's too bad, published a 450-page report that didn't get the job done, but it didn't. liz: getting the job done meaning getting trump tossed. >> this whole problem originated with jim comey. when jim comey stood up and exonerated hillary clinton after he castigated her. i said jim, it's not the right thing to do. liz: you told him that?
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>> i did. as the head of the greatest investigative unit in the world it's not your purview to do that. you should have taken it to the justice department and let the attorney general make it. he said the attorney general wanted him to make the opinion. liz: now robert mueller is being accused of the same thing today, deciding to exonerate president trump when it's not his job. >> this is happening because james comey made that decision. if the -- general didn't want to handle it, that's fine, give it to somebody else in the department. this whole thing has happened because of what he did. liz: mueller's lack of scepticism about james comey is interesting given the mueller report relies on comby notes and
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memorandum. they are mentioned numerous times during the report. it was james comey that comey testified to congress that he deliberately leaked his memo about the meeting with president trump to the "new york times" via a columbia university professor. >> where is the justification of that and the attempted prosecution of something like that. what he did was wrong and probably borders on illegal. why wasn't anybody going after him? i think the savior of this whole thing was going to be the inspector general's report. i think you will see some indictments come out of that inspector general's report when he releases it in october and november. >> that's the next big shoe to drop. you think there will be criminal indictments? >> there will be. liz: things going from bad to
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liz: the national labor relations board investigating bernie sanders campaign for multiple labor law violations. sanders' campaign workers unionized. they complained to the media that bernie sanders' campaign was playing them poverty wages. we reported that the campaign could be in trouble and now they are being investigated. is the bernie campaign over? what a story, gillian. >> i think this is bernie's hypocrisy problem continuing to
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bedevil him. you say you are a unionized shop and you are fighting for minimum wage, but you can't even figure out a way to pay minimum wage. what they are doing is cutting hours like every other big employer. they are being told, this will be fine if you work no more than 50 hours a week. they were saying they were already working 60 hours a week. liz: we don't have a lot of specifics. the complain filed with the labor board said bernie retaliated and laid them off. he said it's not acceptable and improper that people inside my campaign went to the media with
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their quote poverty wages. the sanders campaign is all about free healthcare, right? his campaign doesn't give free healthcare to his workers. he only has -- they cover 85% of the health costs. he's saying free healthcare for all, no out of pocket expenses. he's not doing that with his workers. >> this is par for the course once you start getting into union politics. you can expect to be bad mouthed to the press and you can expect there will be labor complaints. i think he opened himself up to this line of attack. liz: is this campaign over? he's fighting with msnbc. he says he makes my skin crawl. now he is fighting with msnbc. >> this is typical. he always had a confrontational relationship with the press. when he was in vermont and they
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were investigating his wife's dealing. he ended up black listing local papers for a year. liz: on the evening edit we'll dig deeper on what happened with the mueller hearings. they are going to run on impeachment. trump is running on a sizzling economy. that story next. your daily dashboard from fidelity. a visual snapshot of your investments. key portfolio events. all in one place. because when it's decision time... you need decision tech. only from fidelity. who used expedia to book the vacation rental which led to the discovery that sometimes a little down time can lift you right up. expedia. everything you need to go.
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pelosi and understand where they stand on impeachment. they held a democratic caucus meeting today. pelosi said if we go down that path to impeachment we need to be in the strongest possible position. she said we need to be as unified as possible, not divided. kevin mccarthy is speaking there. i talked earlier with al green, the congressman who had a resolution dealing with dealingh impeachment that was blocked by house democrats. al green concede his words that there was not a wild moment. he said that the word of robert mueller were quote la conic. i said wouldn't that put things aside? he said maybe we should start the impeachment inquiry and the public will get on our side. i said that's like healthcare,
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where you said you have to pass the bill so you could know what's in it. what pelosi is saying is they want to continue with their investigations and continue with these court cases, and if they get evidence that might reveal impeachment is the next step, they wanted to be in her words in the strongest possible position to send that to the senate. liz: the impeachment spin cycle is going on with the democrats. fox news. catherine: wit -- catherine her. they didn't deliver the movie they promised for why president trump should be impeached. catherine: it doesn't break a lot of new ground. but for people who support the president, they found nuggets they like. for people who are critics they
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found some lines of inquiry that backs up their positions. one of the critical moments came early in the evening in exchange with the chairman of the judiciary committee and it had to do with the justice department legal opinion and whether that handcuffed mueller from bringing charges against the president. listen. >> the statement would be that you would not indict and you would not indict because under the olc opinion, a sitting president cannot be indicted. it's unconstitutional. >> you could not state that? >> the opinion with some guide, yes. >> under the department of justice policy, the president could be prosecuted for obstruction much justice crimes after he leaves office. correct? >> true.
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catherine: the special counsel was saying he had the evidence to bring a criminal charge and obstruction of justice. but then there was a reversal after an exchanging with democratic congressman ted lieu. he said he needed to clarify his statement. so listen here. >> i want to go back to one thing that was said this morning by mr. lieu who said you can't charge the president because of the olc opinion. that is not the correct way to say it. as we say in the report and as i said at the opening. we did not reach a determination as to whether the president committed a crime. catherine: there were other interesting headlines i think you will appreciate because you have been following this so closely. the special counsel gut the republican strategy on looking at the genesis of the russian
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probe. so they took the opportunity to get information into the congressional record. one of them was the ranging member on house intelligence committee. what he read into the record was it was not an official intelligence catalyst for the probe. he said instead it was a tip from a foreign politician. it was not intelligence that came from the fired eyes. this is a network of intelligence agencies. the u.s., australia, great britain, canada. it was a tip from an australian ambassador. mueller said he was not familiar when questioned about the firm behind the trump dossier, the opposition research paid for by democrats, and the research was done by the former spy christopher steele. that firm is fusion gps.
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the dossier is mentioned extensively in the special counsel report and it was used to secure a warrant for a campaign aid and used three times to secure renewals for the warrant. the question whether the dossier was disinformation from the russians. russians. and mueller said he did not believe that was in his mandate list. liz: who was the australian diplomat with the tip? catherine: that's alexander danner. and it was that information that really precipitated the probe in the summer of 2016. the reason that's so important is because you have to have a proper predicate over a
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counter-intelligence investigation if you are talking about a presidential campaign. this was not an official intelligence product. it was a tip from a former foreign politician as well. liz: your reporting will probably end up in the doj ig report coming out in the fall. a not so picture perfect hearing that democrats wanted. even msnbc's. you did mocked it as boring and even effective. ed the mueller hearing put a spike in impeachment. but the 2020 democrats are still trying to capitalize. >> some things are above politics. and the responsibility of the congress of the united states of america when a president breaks the law is to bring impeachment charges against that president. >> you read the mueller report
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and you see quite clear live that he spells out behavior, instructing people to lie and cover things up. liz: let's bring in for his reaction, republican patrick mchenry. do you have think americans 18 months from now will think about it? >> i think today was a defeat for the forces of impeachment. it was a victory for rule of law and elections having consequences. it's a victory for donald trump. the reaction you hear from the presidential candidates is because they are trying to get their own traction. they can't run on the economy because the economy is strong. they can't run on insecurity because of national security decisions of this administration. so they have to run as far to the left and trying to create whatever controversy possible through whatever sound bite or tweet they can get. it's a theater of the absurd
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with the presidential side in the democrats' fight. liz: a lot of time spent on mueller. not as much time spent on the debt, the border. healthcare. democrats may be pushing impeachment now, sir. but trump has the economy. the latest fox news poll show the majority approve of his work on the economy and say it's in excellent or good condition. abc news, "washington post," nbc news show the majority of americans don't think the democrats have enough for impeachment. time to move on? >> i agree, time to move on. but you get back to the economic question. the very things that made this economy strong and successful are a direct result of this president's actions. you have the democrats trying to undo all those policies. all the stuff promised for prosperity. and they are trying to activate their activists around
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that produced the steele does are. the firm that produced that was fusion gps. it's not a trick question it was fusion gps. fusion gps produced the document widely known as the steele dossier. glenn simpson was never mentioned in the 448-page mueller report, waits? things left out of the report tended to be favorable to the president. liz: with me now is the congressman himself. chief chabot. what struck you about today's cheering? >> i don't think a lot of mind were changed or the public
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learned more than it already knew. the democrats are acting like there are grounds to impeach the president but the american people didn't read the report. i don't think that's the case. there is just no there there. the mueller report indicated the president and his campaign did not collude or conspire with the russians to win the election, and the attorney general barr came out shortly after that and indicated there was no obstruction of justice. i don't think we learned a lot new today. liz: president trump said all along he felt like the probe was led by 12 age write men who were biased towards the democrats. maybe the critics are saying the president may have been right all along and mueller did hand over the probe to them. what do you say to that? >> i think there is a lot of truth in that and that is one of the things we did see today. if you look at who the people
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are he chose as investigators for this, a large proportion of them contributed to either the clinton campaign or the obama campaign or both. and to the d triple c, and none of them contribute to a republican cause, and certainly none of them gave up to trump it was biased in one direction. it makes you wonder how much mueller headed this up. the bottom line is it comes down to what they determined. they determined no collusion with the russians. the democrats can't seem to get around that. their base wants him impeached. what you have going on is a faux impeachment. a fake impeachment. they are trying to satisfy their base they are moving forward with impeachment. but if they do that they will get hurt politically. so they have a dilemma.
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liz: reuters reporting president trump considering a new executive order to put in place price controls for medicare part d. that's according to interest rate sources. this might have to do with getting medicare for the first time to negotiate down drug prices. this is a push back by an effort by the democrats to fight with president trump to win that turf. you won't want to miss health and human services company. he'll be on varney tomorrow. patrice, your take on this, the house passed a measure to roundly condemn an anti-israel rest solution co-sponsored by rashida tlaib and ilhan omar to economically sab sawj israel
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with boycott and sanctions. your take on that? >> we have another issue of bipartisanship, republicans and democrats came together and gave this a sound slap down and rightly so. what ilhan omar and the squad wanted to do was join an international movement that's anti-anti-semitic. you even had democrats like nancy pelosi denouncing the bds movement. this is how far the squad wants to take the progressive wing and saying we are not even willing to go that far. liz: president trump is moving to paint the squad as the face of the democrats. it could cost him the jewish vote in 2020. ilhan omar and rashida tlaib
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voted against the resolution to condemn the bds movement. aoc also sided with them on this. rashida tlaib went so far equating her demand to boycott israel to apartheid in south africa and nazi germany. >> the right to boycott is deeply rooted in the fabric of our country. in the 1980s. many of us in this very body boycotted south african goods in the fight against apartheid. liz: your reaction to that? >> it's horrendous. they are cloking their antisemitism in the cloak of first amendment protests. this is a move to move our
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nation in a direction of hating israel. half of americans support israel. so they can claim its first amendment, but that's not what it is. >> rashida tlaib and omar have tweeted that trump should be deported. omar tweeted back, quote, why don't we deport you to wherever you came from. your reaction to that? isn't it interesting. tweeted never disappear. we now find out there is complicit in using the same rhetoric and language. let's leave this whole send people back to where they came from alone. that goes to both side. let's get to the issues that
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fisher investments. clearly better money management. >> let's welcome to the show ice acting director. great to see user. >> great to be with you. >> mexico is trying to tighten its borders, the president applied mexico for that. mexico, look at this number, a record 17608 homicides in the first half of the year. that is as many as 100 murders a day. your take on that? >> it is incredible. these vicious cartel destroy that culture in mexico, they destabilize the region and they crept the government. in another example of why we need a secure border with mexico. >> the president is saying the cartels have dominated the border for a long time.
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is he right? >> yes he is right. these people being smuggled through and crossing the border illegally, they all paid a smuggler, criminal organization to come into the united states. that is a big problem, were enriching the cartels and security crisis on the border. >> we keep having border patrol officials who keep saying this is why democrats should support the men and women fighting everyday to protect the u.s. americans know all of this, this is a wake-up call for democrats, a new show shows immigration as a top problem facing america, beating out healthcare in the economy. even government. >> i'm not surprised, the american public has a demand for secure border, they've had that for quite some time and conditions therein now are worse than i've ever seen it. and something needs to be done. the tools to fix the problem are in congress. >> here's the other thing, a big victory for the chopper ministries and.
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a federal left in place president trump's new rule that restricts asylum-seekers if they pass at their country on their way here. first your reaction to that victory for the white house questioning. >> it is good that they get to keep the rule that they will try to institute. it will help alleviate commissionconditions on the bor. what is happening, these people are coming in and claiming asylum. they are abusing the system. in assigning them that are not being heard because of being buried by the search of the border. >> doesn't show the true problem that they're not claiming asylum in mexico or guatemala first. today president trump is looking at tariffs and other measures against guatemala, your reaction to that. >> that strategy worked with mexico any threatened tariffs trade for mexico, they engaged
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in deployed troops to the southern border and they agreed to take on the project to have control of the border with guatemala. so maybe the same kind of tool exist forgot imola to do better as it relates to conditions in the country and what happens at the border as well. >> we have the equivalent of a large american city and population crossing the border since last fall. 800,000 illegals caught trying to cross into the u.s. discuss october. that is just a number that was caught. that is the issue. right? >> that is correct. you have 2500 people on average, the fiscal year coming to the border every salon night. that overwhelms the system, that means 40% of the border patrol et cetera protecting the border, resting smugglers, seizing drugs, they are taking peopl cae about the people in custody paid that's not a good situation for them in another situation they can fix. former ice acting director. thank you so much for your service truck country. come back soon. thank you for having us in your home. take you for watching.
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lou dobbs is next. right here on the fox business network have a good evening. ♪ ♪. lou: good evening everybody. capitol hill was supposed to be up political body grand today pitting the man who loves the rich against the president who has worked tirelessly to make america great. despite efforts of the radical dems to overthrow the presidency of donald trump, it was no contest. the party of hate could only watch as a former special counsel robert mueller came undone. just like his two-year investigation that ended with the presidentdi
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