paycheck. >> people don't understand there are taxes they don't see whether it's the employment taxes and they have to pay fica and they wonder who that is. david: that does it for "bulls and bears." see you next time. liz: a look ahead to the democrat debate tonight. the rematch as new questions mount about powerful special interest groups donating to the campaign. this as president trump is ready to rumble and battle the democrats in the new big front opening, lowering drug costs. it's an issue of the democrats are trying to own. we bring you the leading edge of a distinct change in the battle for mainstream america. the democrat moderate realist,

the meade yeah, and even a far left talk show host. democrats warn you will get president trump elected. the jaw droppers from sanders and warren. we have it all. now this. a tap obama democrat agreeing with us about what we have been telling you america wants and does not want. the polls show common sense mainstream america, the workmen and women saying nobody gave us anything for free. we work hard for what we got. why does the hard left dodge and avoid answering questions about how we'll have to pay for their free stuff so we can feel good and morally right. to the new frontier as the democrats push backing in congress. the blue states are pushing back

hard against the trump administration with policy fights they are taking to the fights. their growing big role in deciding what's right for america. to the border. a new group of illegals crossing another border sector. and a new report saying the new trump deal with guatemala to spur more single border krotters rather than families. i'm elizabeth macdonald. "the evening edit" starts right now. first year money stocks fall after the fed chair hinted the rate cut today may not mean more cuts are on the way, that's what the president wanted. reporter: there were some mixed messages there.

the federal reserve did cut the rates 25 basis points. it won't affect the 30-year mortgage because the market priced that in. not everyone on the voting committee agreed with this decision. there were two dissenters. thinking that the rates should have stayed where they were. during the question and answer part, the federal reserve chairman, the market made a wild swing indicating seemingly the federal reserve would be done cutting rates, later clarified. >> what i said was it's not the beginning of a long series of rate cuts. i didn't say it's just one. when you think about rate-cutting cycles, they go on for a long time, and the committee isn't seeing that. reporter: president trump wanted to see a 50 basis point cut.

tweeting this, what the market wanted to hear from jay powell and the federal reserve was this was the beginning of a lengthy and aggressive rate-cutting cycle which would keep pace with china, the european union and other countries around the world. as usual powell let us down. the u.s. is saying on twitter the iranian foreign minister saying on twitter. the u.s. reason for designating me is that i'm iran's primary spokesperson around the world. is the truth really that painful? it has no effect on me or my property as i have no property or interests outside of iran. we are trying to confirm what's being reported in various news outlets.

the son of osama bin laden has been killed. he has been seen as the heir apparent. the u.s. put out a million dollar reward for information leading to his whereabouts. liz: we have been reporting that this could be coming, and now it's here. the debates are about policy. two word the democrats did not say at all at last night's debates. it was russia and the word impeachment. even late-night talk show hosts pushing back on the hard left and on their policies, going after bernie sanders and elizabeth warren. watch the pushback. >> i think if we are going to force americans to make these radical changes -- throw your hands up -- you haven't -- you

will have to implement the plan. >> every credible poll i have seen has me beating donald trump. >> hillary clinton was thing about the polls too. >> this shows how detached these debates are from people's lives. >> when we run on things that are workable, not fairytale economics. liz: your reaction to that? >> i thought it was a great debate. particularly with the three moderate. john delaney, the former congressman from maryland. then you had tim ryan from ohio and hickenlooper who was -- and steve bullock. i think bullock may be more important than hickenlooper. a governor from a red state. basically these three cats are

saying show d these three candidates are saying show us the numbers, how they add up. they are telling elizabeth warren and bernie sanders that their narrative does not add up for mainstream america. and they need the mainstream america vote if they are going to beat donald trump. liz: common sense mainstream america was watching. they said nobody gave up free stuff. we worked hard to take care of our families. they will have to tax us to pay for their free stuff. >> there is a strong feeling that if bernie sanders had been the candidate instead of hillary clinton going against donald trump, bernie sanders would have beat trump. i am not sure that that's true, but in hindsight everybody said if only we had bernie sanders. fast forward to 2020, and they

say we need somebody like that because that's who would have been popular. what i liked about the debate is these three or four candidates were saying to elizabeth warren and bernie sanders come on, show us the numbers, show us how this works. the big losers were the middle progressives like o'rourke and buttigieg. they want to be progressive but they are lukewarm. liz: it's about harris and bind. you wonder if cnn will ask them if they will let prisoners vote before their prison terms are up. >> biden has to come out swinging. in the last debate he was seen as lackluster and not really ready and not on his game. people were saying he's too old and wasn't prepared.

this time around he won't have any excuses not to be prepared. kamala harris will go after him and so will cory booker. they will tag team him on the race issue. if he can respond to it -- >> if they damage him, it will help trump. there is a controversy with special interest backing of the kamala harris campaign. they first denied she got health industry donations. but numerous pharmaceutical ceos gave thousands of dollars in donations. the executive of comcast shows a dozen comcast nbc executives gave to kamala harris before the debate. >> and people say she got more time than she should have gotten during that debate.

the thing about kamala harris is she has not been under the microscope yet. she has not been picked apart because she only has single digit support. if she starts to pick up, people will go into things like that. also her past as a prosecutor in california where she was an overzealous cop in many ways. a really tough prosecutor, and now she is trying to tag biden as somebody who you certainr ported the crime about -- who supported the crime bill. ly trump administration throwing down to the 2020 elections. they are showing a plan to import drugs from canada. >> canada, whenever you have a situation like that, and you

have that in many countries around the world, they become powerful in terms of being able to negotiate a better price. what end up happening is the pharmaceutical companies make those better deals in those countries. in the united states we kind of are the ones who subsidize those lower prices. i think in a way what donald trump is doing is pressure the companies to spread the pain around a little bit more fairly rather than the u.s. always paying top dollar. there are questions about safety. i think they will have to put in place as well. liz: this is the next big battlefield. we'll need you on that. we are just getting started here. up next, the 2020 democrats erupting in a civil war. are their healthcare plans and covering plans, one candidate says you will bankrupt the whole

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liz: the big thing democrats refused to debate lathe night is how their free stuff costs you a lot of money. somebody always angles to make a lot of profit off taxpayer free stuff. >> we talked about giving free healthcare to undocumented americans when so many people are struggling to pay their for their healthcare. >> we don't have to tell them their health understand is illegal. >> do i think we'll vote for a plan that takes half america off hair current insurance in four years? no, i don't think we are going to do that. i think there is a better way to

get what we all want to see. liz: kristen tate, it's good to have you on. >> liz warren and bernie sanders dodged legitimate questions and criticism from their fellow democrats. they refused to acknowledge how much their plans would cost or how the plans would alter the way of life for so many americans. the medicare for all plans have failed several times on the state level including bernie's state of vermont. the plan there was called too expensive and overcomplicated. medicare is already too complicated. it's subjected to overspending and bureaucracy and fraud. but to add 100 million people to those already being served by

medicare is a recipe for disaster. we can't afford a universal healthcare system and open borders. the same people demanding universal healthcare also want to let people undocumented into this country. liz: if bernie sanders were with us now, he would say just trust me, i know what i'm doing. watch this. >> medicare for all is comprehensive and covers all look need for senior citizens. it will finally include dental care, hearing aids and eyeglasses. you don't know that. >> i wrote the damn bill. liz: so what he wrought bill. i could write a bill and say the sky is green, it doesn't make it so.

>> medicare, none of these progressives want to talk about how they would pay for it. >> liz warren claims she would only pay for it by raising taxes on the wealthy and corporations. that would only cover the cost of 8% of medicare for all. i think a lot of these far lefties like bernie sanders and liz warren, they are not living in reality here. they are trying out-santa claus each other with free stuff to get young voters excited. >> you know, bernie sanders said in canada you don't get a health bill. of course, you do. tens of thousands of dollars in health bills unpaid for. that canadians pay for. what bernie sanders wants is to the left of china.

let's watch democrat moderate john delaney pushing back. >> can you imagine if we tried to start social security now but said private pekses are illegal. that's the equivalent of what senators sanders and warren are proposing with healthcare. that's not a big idea. that's an idea that's dead on arrival. why don't we talk about big ideas that we can get done. liz: if democrats can't convince americans they have the case in the plan to beat trump, how can they capture the undecided voters? >> they need to impress the hard left radicals to win a primary. but when it comes time tomorrow

beat trump in a general election, you have to see the vast majority of middle americans are watching these people in the debates and they realize sanders and warn are blethering economic idiots who have no plans to pay for any of this. anyone with basic knowledge about how economics works understands you can't just give free stuff to anyone without any plan to pay for it. every country in the world that has any kind of universal healthcare system has to raise taxes on the middle class in some capacity to pay for it. but there is no acknowledgment of that to pay for it. liz: come back soon. we love having you on. to chris 10's point. we'll show you how fast the 2020 democrats ran away from answering and dodging how they will have to raise middle class taxes to pay for their free stuff.

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liz: welcome back. you are watching the fox business network. top obama democrats, mainstream media and late-night talk show hosts starting to push back on the far left. >> it does seem if you are running for president that you ought to take into consideration what the country wants. >> bernie said i wrote the bill an won the moment. but the reality is he's not going to write the bill if he's president. >> he has written a lot of bills that haven't gone anywhere. >> there were a lot of phrases uses that remind me of voodoo

economics. >> when it comes to healthcare, bernie is a friend of our neighbors to the north. liz: virns wha liz: vince, what do you think? >> there is a panic going on that the election is being gift wrapped for donald trump. you see the people on stage, one of them an avowed socialist saying we are going to open the borders and give healthcare to illegal immigrants and take away good healthcare plans from union workers. and all of these things are deeply unpopular among the american electorate. yet they have been dragged in that direction thinking all of their voters are alexandria ocasio-cortez and they are not. you are seeing a panic along democratic elites right now because they think donald trump

will win the next election because of how wild it has gone the. liz: we have been reporting for a year this would hatch. kaiser family health-npr-marist poll are saying americans don't want what the democrats are selling. and bernie sanders is playing the race card on a lot of people. the racism card was used on senator mccaskill after she said free stuff does not play in the midwest. here its the tweet. free stuff doesn't play in the midwest sounds like an awful lots like racial dog whistles about hard working whites versus handouts. >> you are trying to avoid

scrutiny. they are whipping out the race card because they are scared that the scrutiny will result in people not liking what they are offering. liz: you just assessed it by net cost to americans. the only estimate that shows it going down is one written by an economist who works for bernie sanders. everyone else says it's going up. and the mainstream press has noticed. medicare for all of is expensive. liz: we are talking about 90% of americans do have coverage. why rip up the whole kit and caboodle. here is senator warren dodging tough questions. we have been reporting all along. how the polls show scepticism by americans for their policies. watch this. >> functional healthcare. >> plans to pay for medicare for all is offset by insurance

premiums. >> costs will go up for billionaires and corporations. for middle class families the total costs will go down. >> will you pay for it in taxes. >> the question about where people are going come out economically. >> that's not my question. my question is how much will taxes go up. liz: bernie sanders admitted middle class taxes will have to go up. there is senator warren dodging it. >> this is such a shame for chris ma these. he's panicking that he may never get another democratic president. that's why he's pushing back on elizabeth warren. the idea that medicare for all is going to be cheaper for middle class people is not true. she is lying through her teeth. i think tonight, i think the key to watch tonight is joe biden

and the way the media reacts to him. if they gloss over his left-wing tendencies, he supports healthcare for illegal immigrants. liz: he did say no to that in 2011. >> on the last debate on msnbc he raised his hand in support of it. now he's for taxpayer funding for abortions. these are deeply unpopular among americans. he's left wing. liz: we are going to dig into a new startling fact about the border. it came from the acting head of border patrol. he's going to tell us coming up how many fake families were caught trying to enter the u.s. illegally. and that's just year to date for this fiscal year. you won't believe the number. that number coming up. that samed

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liz: the federal administration -- aviation administration, the max 737s are in their third month of a worldwide global ground. >> faa officials taking heat from lawmakers over the agency's we will in certifying 737 max planes. a bombshell report suggests regulators found a high risk of another emergency happening after the first plane went down last year. the agency put out a warning to pilots. members of the senate subcommittee question whether that was enough. and a second plane crashes.

the faa has been accused of essentially allowing boeing to monitor itself and certify its own planes. the agency certified the max. lawmakers told the agency there need to be a clear divide between the regulators and private industry. industry officials say they are open to changes to make flying in the u.s. even safer. they say they have no time time as to when the 737 max will be back in service. liz: a new record in illegal apprehensions on the rio grande sector on the border. this as 2020 democrats continue to push to decriminalize border crossing. let's bring in the former

ambassador to mexico. what do you think when democrats say yes decriminalize illegal crossing in the face of these record-high numbers? >> i don't understand it. i can't see decriminalizing. the idea that largely one candidate attempts to stand out in the first debate, i was surprised to see so many candidates follow suit and talk about decriminalization. it is a federal criminal offense. secondly looking for reform of the underlying asylum procedures. and us creating more pathways to legal immigration. whether it be temporary work permits for visas tore people coming to the united states for specific purposes. liz: we are not even having that debate. it's even degraded further. that level of debate is not

happening right now. let's get to senator warren. listen to senator warren argue the point to decriminalize. >> just to clarify, would you decriminalize illegal border crossings? >> yes. the point is not about criminalization. that has given donald trump the tool to break families apart. the point is to decriminalize. liz: so decriminalize to go after trump. can you square that for me? >> i didn't hear that all together too well. but i gather that what she is talking about, decriminalization of the illegal crossing because she sees that as related to the separation of families and children. i am not so sure she is not conflating a lot of things in a way to try to make this a more

emotional appeal to a democratic base about decriminalization. i think it many a non-starter in general. liz: switching gears, let's listen to the acting border commissioner mark morgan. he told the senate homeland security committee. >> border patrol identified 1,500 fake families. they discovered hundreds of fake families. the stories are happening every single day, and it's very clear that they know, you grab a kid, that's your passport into the united states because of the flores settlement agreement. liz: a new report that the deal between the u.s. and guatemala

could spur more single my grants, illegals, but less families to the border. staying on what mark morgan said. senator john on warned the border is so profoundly overwhelmed that the border patrol go don't have time to determine whether the children are with their parents or human traffickers. >> i listened to a bit of that exchange earlier and i thought nor johnson was trying to be thoughtful about it. something you haven't seen a lot of from the left or the right. from the right we are talking about the 5,800 fake families. on the left we hear about the 900 to 1,000 children separated since the halting of that policy. you are seeing more deaths and united states citizens being held because they couldn't prove their citizenship. i think that's what happens when there is little focus on addressing the need for a secure

border and reforming asylum and our immigration policy. that's a fault on both side. there has been a lack of leadership. i thought that exchange between morgan and johnson was a thoughtful one. liz: thank you for joining us. we really appreciate it. great to see you. come back soon. just ahead. president trump secretary of housing and economic development. he went to baltimore and said yes the federal government will invest in baltimore but there are problems that can't be swept under the rug. the president is pushing back against congress. democrats lose states, they are now declaring war on the president trying to get his tax returns, block his policies, going to court do do all that and more.

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liz: let's bring in patrice lee from the independent women's forum. i want to get to this sound bite

from the bernie sanders campaign. watch bernie sanders avoid the tough question about whether his plan for free health insurance and free college tuition for illegals will cause more border crossers. bernie sanders pivots and instead attacks trump. >> you want to provide undocumented immigrants free healthcare and free college. why won't this drive even more people to come to the u.s. illegally. >> because we have a strong border protection. but what trump is doing through his racism and xenophobia is demonizing a group of people. and as president i will end that demonization. liz: he wants to give free' healthcare and college tuition to illegals. again he dodged the question. >> he did. but i think it's important that

his feet be held to the fire and others on the far left. you want to open our borders and give freebies when many americans are struggling to get that for themselves. i think it's ridiculous. now his campaign is coming out saying's racist to -- saying it's racist to say it's wrong. it's not racist. people play the race card because they don't want to deal with criticism. liz: the new tagline, the smear is to say it's a quote republican talking point. watch bernie sanders try to push back on jake tapper in this sound bite. >> senator sanders said that people in the middle class will pay more in taxes to pay for medicare for also that will be offset by the elimination of

insurance premium and other costs. >> millions of insurance who have insurance can't go to the doctor and when they come out of the hospital they go bankrupt. what i'm talking about, if no deductible and no co-payment. jason, you are question is a republican talking point. liz: he's again not answering the question. he'll have to raise middle class taxes. his plan is a utopian plan that doesn't exist anywhere in the world. canada doesn't have it and china doesn't have it. >> we need to hold him accountable. it doesn't exist because it would be ridiculously costly to do so. we saw a figure from the heritage foundation that suggests we be paying taxes to pay for these giveaways. for those who cannot, that wraps

we have a social safety net system. but he and elizabeth warren want to blow up our entire private industry and marketplace and replace it with a government. it won't leave people better off. it will lead to rationed care, especially when we are opening the doors to anyone who comes to wants here illegally. i think americans citizens are the ones who will get hurt. >> here is cnn's don lemon with a question cite risk saying is total bias against trump voters. >> what do you say to those trump voters who prioritize the economy over the president's bigotry? >> first of all, there are people that voted for donald trump before that aren't racist. they just wanted a better shake in the economy. i would appeal to them. liz: president trump respond

saying on twitter, don lemon the dumbest person on tv in season waited i'm a ratist. when i'm the least racist person in the world. perhaps someone should explain to don lemon that's he's supposed to be neutral, unbiased and fair. patrice, take that on. >> i love the last part of his tweet there, until they bring credibility back it's interesting don lemon is focused on bigotry instead of the economy and jobs. when they listen to the president and see what he's doing for all americans and the black community and hispanic community. they realize the claims of racism are hollow. criminal justice reform it wasn't passed under president trump who was the black first

black president. it was pushed because president trump put his weight behind it. over a thousand people were released because of the first step act passed last december. the idea he doesn't care about black people, i think he cares about people getting their sentences reduced by an average 73 months. and people are getting jobs and the administration is pushing for second chances. liz: joe biden will have to answer to all of what you just said. it will be coming up in just a few hours. thanks for coming in. next you have, a federal judge hands the trump administration a big legal victory. the white house facing full pell other -- facing multiple attacks from border policy to judges.

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elizabeth: ari fleischer served as white house press secretary for bush 43, he is here now, great to see you. >> great to be here. elizabeth: we see blue state democrats taking every shot at trump administration. doesn't states suing over energy, 20 over the border,

probing investigating, slamming him with is up opennas, your -- subpoenas. >> this is a violation of the norms. there was a time when people would have accepted what modern law. is the feds act on authority that feds have. the states never sued, this is a violation of the norms. elizabeth: we're seeing 51 lawsuit out of california. against the trump administration. 50 out of new york. they are trying to take him down. >> these states that are overwhelmingly democratic, run for attorney general you run on a partisan bases -- basis, when not what an attorney general should do. it is not healthy. >> have you governor gavin

newsom of california signing to law that says that president trump and others too would have to release tax returns to get on prprimarypry ballot in californ. >> this is awful, i understand, i believe trump should have released his taxes, but you know what, that voluntary. it is up to ramification of the people, states should note step in as for criteria for the ballot. >> president did get a court victory, a federal judge in new york said we're tossing out this suit brought against trump administration over hacked dnc mails, judge saying, this is a real stretch, judge finding there is no wrong doing. the case is divorced from the facts. >> he has been on a victory role in the court.

how many times doe dem -- do the democrats get to swing and trump. do it at the polls if you got the goods. elizabeth: what is your take tonight with biden vharris. >> someone has to take biden down. that is why harris did well. even though it was a sneak attack, it was bogus, because her on busing is the same as joe biden. elizabeth: do you think it will be more combative than last time. >> absolutely. elizabeth: a technologied 41 run -- a damaged front runner that helps trump. >> a react frontrunner.

elizabeth: ari fleischer thank you. lou dobbs is next. have a good evening. >> good evening another major victory for president trump, and another blow against those trying to over throw his presidency. a clinton-appointed judge, slowing out a democratic national committee lawsuit alleging collusion between trump administration and russia. president saying, the witch-hunt ends here. president absolutely right about federal reserve chair powell. powell does not know what he is doing or at least saying. when interest rate cut was announced today at 2 p.m., the market remained steed -- steady, sold off 36 minutes later