the black market - you know, it's a conspiracy theory. connell: could be. melissa: pasta pass is amazing. i tried it never got one. connell: deep states possibly. anyway, thank you for joining us. melissa: bulls & bears is right now. >> we start off with breaking news here as you can see marine one just landing at the new jersey airport where the president will be leaving. he spent time at bedminster and headed to a campaign rally at the crucial state of new hampshire. crucial partly because of the fact it's in play and also because of the fact joe biden will be there as well as liz warren, bernie sanders very, very interesting stop for the president and may be inclined to stop and speak to the press about a whole host of issues before he takes the plane to new hampshire. he's been tweeting about various subjects today. israel, china, economy and if he

talks to reporters we will bring that to you live. keep it here. in the meantime, new fallout over israel's surprise decision to bar to members of the so-called democrat congressional squad from visiting the country this weekend. president trump expressing his strong support for the move and now 2020 democrats and many others are starting off about it. welcome, everybody. i'm david asman and this is bulls & bears. training on the panel today carol ross, liz claman, john lakefield, and gary. the israeli government making the last-minute decision to formally block entry to congresswoman omar and rashida tlaib over their support to her palestinian led boycott movement. the two were scheduled to travel to israel tomorrow for a five day trip. prime minister benjamin netanyahu defending his position saying israel is open to all criticism but not calls for boycotts that harm the state. there's been a lot of response on both sides to israel's move

in here is what 2020 candidate liz warren tweeted out earlier today. quote, israel does not advance his case as a tolerant democracy or unwavering u.s. ally by barring elected members of congress from visiting because of their political views. this would be a shameful, unprecedented move and i urge israel's government to allow congresswomen omar and rashida tlaib entry. should one of our strongest allies deny entries to any u.s. citizens especially members of the u.s. government. what do you think? >> i love to change the hearts and minds of congresswoman omar and rashida sleep will spread a lot of mystification at best and outright lies about israel but at the end of the day it doesn't seem like they were going into this trip in good faith. they put on their itinerary they were visiting palestine but not israel and did not ask to meet with any members of the israeli government which every other

elected member of corpsmen in either party who went to israel did so it did not seem like they were coming in good faith and its hard to have diplomacy when someone else is not willing to beat the pathetic on the other side and to allow them to use this as a propaganda trip could be a mistake. i completely understand the decision. >> i agree with that. it was a red herring. they said they were going to palestine, the israeli embassy in washington said okay and then clearly it appears that they are not going there to go underground to see what's going on and to check on their position which is israel is conducting inhumane treatment of different people. had they said sure, will go to the israeli run hospital in the golan heights where israeli medics rush across a very hostile territory to save syrians, 3,000 syrians from chemical attacks and bring them to israel and save them or 20,000 palestinians who have been treated here in israel's hospitals to say we'll go check out the fact they're getting

cancer treatments and cornea replacements but they weren't going to do that. they - i feel the israeli government fell into their trap and were talking about it david and now everyone is talking about it and in the end israel should have said fine, come here but really we know what your agenda is. davidl: let's bring someone else and to talk about it you say you understand what israel is doing what it is making the mistake. explain. >> i have to tell you we have to understand first what is the movement. it's an anti-semitic basically genocidal movement that wants to see the end of israel. make a mistake, these are not moderates coming to visit israel. israel law has right to prohibit activists, especially those who want to see them wiped off the map from coming in. by the way, to those on the left to think well, we should prohibit [inaudible] from coming to the united states because he's an islamic hope which is what keith ellison, the predecessor said he wanted to

prohibit him from coming to the u.s. because he was an islamic hope and the rest of us that we have free speech et cetera. having said all that because of the social media platform because of their victimization which there so quickly to run to israel could have exposed all of their duplicity and the fact that it said palestine is not israel affect their agenda was full of far left anti- israel semites and i get it best for freeman statement today was right on point in which he said at the end of the day they set it up to avoid the other side of the story so israel has right to push back and see you're only getting one side of the picture and will not participate in this propaganda but i will tell you for that zionist supporters and myself if you want israel to win and be exposed as the democracy that it is. it can win this argument even to get radicals like omar and rashida to be.

>> but it is already winning. it's a sliver of land in the middle east and this miracle in the middle east and this modern democracy, 263 miles north to south and 71 miles east to west where in spite of what they tell you jews, muslims and christians and every gender and every denomination, race, color work, play and stand side-by-side together. these people were not going to israel. they were going to palestine. they want israel wiped off the face of the earth and they want to take over. the bottom line is israel did what they had to do and put a law in in 2017 and they don't need this. the anti- semitic movement they believe israel is white like nazi germany. they can take a hike. i don't care but let them stay back here. we don't need them in israel.

>> i'm with you. i want to see the bds movement type it what's the quickest way? give it the anti- septic of sunlight but they would've lost every argument in the israeli media if they would have been allowed this propaganda opportunity and israel would've pushed back but now unfortunately all hear about over the next two days is how they are the victims and is not democracy and all this other nonsense which is going to put smoke in the air that the reality of the fact that the warmongers and the fact that there are terrorists in society with and israel is the real democracy. >> i'm not a fan of either of these two congress people but a fan of israel and our relationship with them is strong and i think we need to keep that. we give them $3.8 billion a year in support of the military but i'm not a fan of inflammatory rhetoric. you said that rashida tlaib want israel wiped off the face of the map and do you really think and are you willing to say that on the world by television that these two congress people want all the israeli people dead? that seems way across the line, sir that's the support of bds. she just put forth a resolution in which they asked for the

support of the bds movement, boycott divestment in fiction movement calls for economic destruction of israel so that no one can deal with it economically and thus it dies of attrition. that is what they are calling for emily put on their agenda palestine in don't mention israel those are two congress people, activists, they do not believe in getting the recognition to the state of israel. david: gentlemen and ladies, this is the president speaking in westminster but let's listen. president trump: walmart announced and others announced we have tremendous numbers coming out today i'm sure what you saw. were very happy about that and doing very well. the economy is incredible and the consumer probably above all else, the consumer is doing incredibly. go ahead. any questions? i think we will have a very long time of wealth and success.

other countries are doing poorly. china is doing very, very poorly and the tariffs have bitten into china and they not bitten into us at all except for the reporters that want to make it look that way but they don't understand what's happening. tariffs we have taken in close to $60 billion in tariff money and consumer has not paid for it. at some point they may have to pay something but they understand that and who really understands that is our great farmer. the farmers of this country understand they know we had to do something about china and were doing something about chi china. with that being said will have good discussions with china and they are very much wanting to make a deal. we will see what happens. we had a deal they decided not to make it and now i think they would like to have had that opportunity again because i think they would. they missed a great opportunity and they feel they missed a great opportunity but china very much wants to make a deal and were talking to them we will see what happens. yeah. >> why did they feel the need to get involved with the two

congresswomen going to israel? president trump: i'm only involved from the standpoint of they are very anti- jewish and very anti- israel and i think it's disgraceful the things they had said. you have lists - this is not just a one my mistake. what they said about israel and jewish people is a horrible thing and they have become the face of the democratic party. i did absolutely put out a very strong statement. if you look at their language and look at what they have said it if i ever said it it would be - it would be awful and horrible months to put it mildly. the things they said, omar, proceeded to leave, what they said is disgraceful. i can't imagine what israel would let them in but if they want to let them in, they can but i can't imagine why they would do it back [inaudible]. president trump: i think the longer the trade war goes on the weaker china gets in the stronger we get that were taking

massive amounts of money in and billions and billions of dollars and i think the longer it goes, the stronger we get. i have a feeling it will go fairly short and i think it will be china's lost millions of jobs and he saw that reporter today and thousands of companies are closing in china and i don't know but maybe they want to do this for a year and would love to have someone like biden who does not know what he's doing. i just put a clip where he said we want to build up china and while they gave us a very strong china. china is taken out over $500 billion a year for many years from our country. that will not happen anymore. >> [inaudible] how concerned are you about a violent crackdown from the chinese and hong kong? president trump: i am concerned. i would not want to see a violent crackdown. i put a memo out last night and

i like a lot and get along with him very well, president xi, and i said i would be willing to bet that if he sat down with the protesters, a group of representative protesters up and worked it out in 15 minutes and i bet he worked out very quickly. i know it's not the kind of thing he does but i think it would not be a bad idea but if he sat down and they have a certain leadership who it if he sat down with that leadership pool i bet they could work something out very quickly. it seems like things to be worked out pretty easily did you talk to prime minister benjamin netanyahu . president trump: i will not comment on who i spoke to but my social media statement pretty well save speaks for itself. i think they are so anti- israel and so anti- jewish that again, if other people made that statement there would have been hell to pay. i did speak to people over there. yeah. >> sure, china said they want to

retaliate and will retaliate because of the tariffs increase announced. what is your response to that? president trump: if they did retaliate, which i don't think they will do, were talking to them and offering things that are very good i don't think they will retaliate that if they did, we have the ultimate form of retaliation. there are very few jobs left in china because we'd be able to step it up. just so you understand, i've been mild about it. very, very mild but there's a long way i can go somebody had to take on what was happening with china. we can't allow china to take out of our country $507 billion every year, not including intellectual property theft and so many other things. we are having very good talks with china and i think things will happen but we will see. >> if they do retaliate will you want your team to meet with them in september as planned? president trump: september the meeting is still on, as i understand it but more importantly in september were talking by phone and having a very productive talks. they would like to do something. i will tell you that. the talk we had a few days ago with my two representatives

nobody knew what was on that talk except for myself, china and those two people. that was a very good conversation. >> [inaudible] president trump: j powell should be cutting rates because every country all over the world is cutting them and we want to say even and i don't mind if or higher. where a better credit but were way too high. j powell has made a big mistake. he raised them too fast and also quantitative takes only quantitative tightening and that was a big mistake. $50 billion a month and put us in a position and interestingly even with normalized interest rates president obama was saying nothing and we have a much better economy and you have to look at our economy also from the day after my election. we picked up tremendous steam the day after the election but that's not the tribunal to president obama. they only do that because of us. when someone says from generate 20, not from generate 20th from november 9 the day after the election we picked up and

the fact that i want lifted our economy greatly. if i did not win it would go down and frankly, if for some reason, that happened in the 2020 election you will see this economy go down the tubes. i will tell you that right now. >> do you have any idea of where china will fall on their [inaudible] purchases and crackdown on fentanyl? president trump: they want to follow through very quickly. this is part of the conversation we had to have a special representative, over and talk to us in a different group and a message, a strong message to me and they want to start doing it quickly. i will be honest. i'm not there yet. not china. i'm not there yet. we will see what happens. i do - i really like to see china in a humane way solve the

problem in hong kong humanely solve the problem in hong kong. i think they could do it very quickly. i said yesterday i really have a lot of confidence in president xi. i know if we set down with their representatives i have no doubt he would solve that problem quickly. >> [inaudible]. president trump: i don't encourage or discourage. i think if israel allowed them to come in for the normal reasons, other than those reasons, i really believe it would be a terrible thing for israel and i think it would show a terrible sign. they want to do boycotts and they said horrible things about the jewish people and said horrible things about israel and israelis and it would be a terrible thing, frankly, for israel to let these two people who speak so badly about israel come in. they have to come. amazingly they have become the face of the democrats. democrats don't want to do anything to condemn them.

if they - if this were ten years ago or if this were a different time for different people or whatever they would be condemned for the things they had said. they have said some of the worst things i've ever heard that about israel. how can israel say welcome? i don't think it would be a good thing for israel. >> mr. president, do you think [inaudible] needs to reside? president trump: i don't know the situation with steve king. i read a statement that supposedly he made - i'm not been briefed on it but it was not a good statement. >> we will go to the g-7 pretty soon i think you will meet with boris johnson soul you have some sort of declaration about the intent to steal a trade deal with him and with britain? president trump: dealing with the uk in a trade deal and will have a great deal made. were dealing with boris johnson i just spoke to him yesterday and i'll speak to him again and he and i are very much aligned and we feel very good about each other. i think will make a fantastic

and big trade deal with the uk. we should do much more business than were doing with the uk. it's they are probably - i don't want to say there are courses because i don't want to insult other people but it certainly they are one of our closest allies anywhere in the world and we will have a fantastic relationship with the uk and a great trade deal with the uk. that's moving along rapidly. >> any other goals for the g-7, sir? president trump: i think just relationship. we have a lot to discuss. [inaudible] i think corey lewandowski would be terrific if you ran but i don't think he will run. i spoke to him about it a week ago and frankly i think it's something he'd like to do but i don't know he will do it. i think it will be very good. he loves new hampshire another country and if he didn't i think it be very formidable. >> [inaudible].

president trump: we will look at that closely and look at the whole garden situation. i do want people to remember the words mental illness. these people are mentally ill. nobody talks about that but these are mentally ill people. people have to start thinking about it and building institutions because if you look at these 60s and 70s so many of the institutions were closed and the people were allowed to go onto the streets and that was a terrible thing for our country. they closed the cities because cities can afford them and i could tell you in new york they closed a lot of them and the people went out into the streets and it's a terrible thing. a lot of our conversation has to do with the fact that we have to open up institutions and talent these people be on the streets. we have a tremendous crowd in new hampshire and it's all over the place and everyone saying wow. our competitor has virtually no grounds.

i don't know what that means. i'm assuming it's a poll of some kind but i think we will do well in new hampshire. new hampshire should've been one last time except we had a lot of people come in at the last moment which was a rather strange situation. thousands and thousands of people coming in from locations unknown but i knew where the location was but i think we will have a tremendous success in new hampshire. these are great people and the relationship is very good. >> [inaudible]. president trump: we are looking at it. i feel very badly. i think he was harshly sentence but were looking at it very strongly. people feel very strongly about that. i floated it i wanted to see where the democrats stood where the republicans stood. people feel very strongly about rod latoya vick he's been in there for seven and a half years and that's a long time. what he did was terrible but

it's a long time. >> your pushing mitch mcconnell on back objects. president trump: i've been dealing with mitch mcconnell. he's a man who we had minutes success with judges and judicial appointments. we will be up to 179 federal judges within the next two months. no one would believe that possible but because president obama was unable to get them completed. i inherited about 138 empty seats. no one can believe it. we will have them almost all filled with tremendous judges and tremendously talented smart people. they will be filled within two months so i have 179 judges and two supreme court justices and that is something no one will ever have thought possible. i want to thank very much president obama for that. >> what about background checks for gun owners.

president trump: yeah, i've been speaking to mitch about that and speaking to everybody about it but we don't want to see crazy people owning guns but i also want to remember that mental illness is something nobody wants to talk about. these people are mentally ill and we have to study that also. it is them. they pull the trigger. the gun does not pull the trigger. they pull the trigger. we have to look seriously at mental illness and we are doing that. and at a level that is not been done before. >> [inaudible]. president trump: many republicans. i will tell you it's been an amazing experience. they want to see something happen and basically it's very simple. they don't want to have insane people, dangerous people really bad people having guns. republicans agree with me that i think i was a pretty much uniformly. >> will it be easy to do when the senate comes back? president trump: i pray that if we came up with a good bill i

think the democrats might a bit and then the things that can't be done in the public would not want done. i hope that would not happen but that has happened in the past. you understand. i support strong, meaningful background checks were people that should not have guns and people that are insane, people that are mentally ill, people that are bad, bad people like this guy in philadelphia has been arrested numerous times. he's a bad guy where people like that would not have guns. frankly, people like that should be locked up and he shot have even been on the streets. thank you. thank you very much. people in president trump in moorestown, new jersey and bedminster at his place there took marine one to morristown on his way to new hampshire. let's listen. president trump: i really believe we can work it out. i know him well. if you want to, he can work it

out in a very humane fashion. he can work something that everyone is happy. david: you never know what he will stop, turn around and answer another question which was talking there a course of about china and hong kong is that it would be very simple for president xi to sit down with the opposition and the people representing the protesters and we will talk about that in a moment but he was also talking about guns and the united kingdom in a trade deal and again about the issue of whether or not israel was right in denying the ability of these two congresswomen to come to israel which they called palestine by the way. he said, in fact, it would be a terrible thing if congresswomen rashida tlaib and omar were allowed to visit israel. it was asked if he talked to the prime minister and he would not say if he had or not but we still have judy with us while he's not a fan of these two congresswomen you still believe even after listening to president making his case for the congresswomen not be allowed to go to israel you think that

was a mistake not allowing them in? >> i do. listening to the president everything he said is correct. they are - their ideas are dangerous and the bds movement is anti-semitic and should be fought but if you want to see it defeated yes, any activist should not be allowed to go to israel that are bds supporters. that's an extra essential, if not direct threat support to terror groups et cetera but these are commerce women elected by their district and the best way to take the oxygen out of their movement and they just put a resolution into the congress where she lied, in fact, in her campaign and said she would not support bds and then puts forth a resolution doing so. their agenda called it palestine it did not call it israel and so many aspects that their ideas would wither on the vine. that is the best way to defeat this. for us conservatives who want people critical of islam and others to come into america like [inaudible] to be given that freedom we can't have it both ways. we should say anti-semites like

rashida to beep and omar should see the beauty of israel and let's hear what they say once they are there. melissa: that's what gary said. he called it a muriel and it is. israel is nothing short of a miracle. david, i'm with judy on this even though it looks like - what you don't want is to have an israeli government that shut that out and now all the attention is like a laser on them. their political rivals of president trump they do not like him and agitating for his impeachment. he, of course, really hates them and is just been clear - [audio difficulties] david: there's a big rally there was a lot of democrat candidates are there as well. we will be covering that life so

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bit of a memo out last night and the he's a man i get along with well and president xi i said i'd be willing to bet if he sat down with the protesters, a group of representative protesters i bet they can work it out in 15 minutes. david: the president said that moment ago trying to talk about the china trade deal with beijing's handling the protest in hong kong. president justine chinese president she should respond quote, humanely. susan lee is on the ground in hong kong with the very latest. susan. reporter: i heard that twice as well. he wants beijing to treat the hong kong protesters humanely. the reason he said that as he tweeted before that u.s. intelligence sees a buildup of chinese troops across the borders nearby in this video has gone viral and been widely circulated and it's of a chinese military buildup thousands of troops being amassed nearby

along with tanks and artillery and army personnel carriers as well. this pretty much reaffirms the satellite imagery that we've been seen as well that there have been and artillery buildup and troop buildup in a soccer stadium which is across the border. 7 miles from here but to the chinese state media say it's not a concern and just military exercises in preparation for the celebration of the 70th anniversary of the founding of the communist people party but however, if you couple that with the stern warning coming from the uk today and the chinese ambassador in britain who says beijing's patients is limited. >> should the hong kong situation deteriorated into unrest the government will not sit on its hands and watch. reporter: so, if you couple those elements together there is

heightened concern there maybe chinese military intervention on the hong kong protest but most of the people i speak to here in the city still think that is a remote possibility. back to you. david: susan, great stuff. traffic reporting from hong kong. thank you. is president trump right to tie a trade deal into china's handling of hong kong? >> i think the president is right in saying something about the problems in hong kong especially a humanitarian crisis. to say that president xi needs to respond to mainly it's appropriate. president remind me of president reagan saying, mr. gorbachev tear down this wall. there is a role for presidents to play in the united states in crisis around the world specifically with the rhetoric they have whether that rhetoric is positive i don't think he will tie this into a straight deal but i don't think we'll get a trade deal anytime soon.

i think president xi and president trump have dug himself into corners and that they cannot back out of. i don't see an offramp and or any was resolution from trade deal coming to a conclusion anytime soon. >> i want to large my best wishes to the people in the protesters in hong kong. it such an interesting thing to me that we see them waiting the american flag and singing our national anthem as a symbol of freedom but at the same time we have athletes taking a knee here in the united states in terms of trade i think it would convolute an already convoluted trait situation to try to tie this in. i think it was a mistake to mix up trait and it protection and cyber security altogether but this would add another confusing elements. while i appreciate the president addressing it i like to keep these issues separate. >> i know we all would but guess what? i don't think so. it's not just president trump and his decision. he would like to tie together but that may not work as well on the president xi sighed.

exactly to the point of these protesters who are waving american flags right there on the screen. that no doubt enrages president xi who probably feels an impact, his own ministry has come out and say the u.s. is rabble rousing and accusing some u.s. politicians of meeting with some of the protesters. i worry that the chinese are running out of patience and we may have another tiananmen square on our hands and that would be a total and utter disaster in hong kong to lose its cause i independence. >> list, you nailed it. the biggest problem at this point in time is i don't think president xi cares what trump says. all evidence is that they're ignoring the president and we been hearing for 15 months that we had the strong hand and they are the weekends but they keep thumbing their nose at us and we are not close to a deal. we are further away from the deal than we've ever had in tying hong kong to it - i think it goes nowhere. i like the fact that the president brought it up and shows were watching and care but i think at this point in time china is doing what it will do regardless of what we think or say at this point.

david: particularly after the president - remember how critical he was of obama not backing the protesters in iran. he set a precedent for himself. i think he had to get involved one way or the other but it's not a story you can avoid but on the other hand the administration is not together on this. wilbur ross, commerce secretary yesterday was calling it completely and internal matter and asked about it and said what we do, invade hong kong? he asked. it doesn't seem as though the message has gotten through the administration yet. >> that's - >> problem is if we invade hong kong we got to borrow money from china to fight china. [laughter] david: let's leave that irony. >> the world does not want to go to work but i don't think the world will stick up for hong kong. david: our prayers go to her folks in hong kong for the autopsy report on the mysterious death of jeffrey epstein now raising new questions about what

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♪ david: new details now emerging from jeffrey epstein's autopsy reporting the showing he had multiple broken bones in his neck at the time of his death. is this evidence that he could have been murdered instead of committing suicide? is bringing fox news medical correspondent doctor marc siegel. is it looking more like a murder than a suicide? >> it certainly increased the chances is a murder rather than a suicide. let me tell you why. the hyoid boyne which is right here under the adam's apple is a u-shaped bone. david: were talking about the broken neck. >> right but in his case the autopsy is now revealing that multiple bones were broken in his neck, including the hyoid bone. the hyoid boyne might break its regulation about one third to one half of the time but in a suicide hanging it might brea

break-10% of the time depending on which study you look at but there's one out of thailand in india but much less percentage. in order to break that phone and multiple bones in the neck you have to exert a lot of force if it's a hanging. i don't want to get graphic but he supposedly hung himself off a bunk bed with sheets and i'm thinking from a height so - we want where there would be a snapping of the neck. >> writes, i don't think suicide is ruled out but here's what i'm looking for. were there other signs of trauma? were their bruising and was to something so a struggle. that would make me think of homicide. >> do you think we'll ever find that out? mac i think we might, liz. they have an obligation at some point to release all the autopsy findings and they still have some left to go. examining it under a mega scope and that still has not come out but there will be a full autopsy report. it's been leaking out bit by bit. i think we will get an answer to

that. are there other signs of bruising? >> doctor siegel, carol, what about his mental state? there been reports he talked to his lawyers leading up and he was in a strangely good state of mind and delusional thought he might get off on double jeopardy but how does this state of mind plant with the physical findings we are seeing now? >> excellent question, carol. one thing that has disturbed me as a physician and i wrote about this i don't believe you go on being suicide watch to suddenly being fine and telling your lawyers see you on a sunday. if you have suicidal ideas and considering suicide it is not something that goes away right away. somehow to go from there to place recently unobserved people are saying they went to sleep in falsified records but no cameras are turned on so i'm not trying to confuse you and you could still have homicide in that setting but i think there's a lot of evidence he was a deeply

depressed individual. >> look, i know colombo and maybe i watch too much csi but everything here to me is cover up. you're supposed to have video and you're supposed to have people on watch and this was a major, major target and all of a sudden this happens? if you like, to me, there's a lot of bad people breathing one heck of a sigh of relief right now. i want to hear from you a real yes or no - what do you think this is suicide or not because i do trust doctor mark siegel. >> thank you for that vote of confidence. i will tell you i agree with you about something. something in the situation really smells. the word smells is translate to the attorney general irregularities. what smells? first of all, this person has not present has not had a

suicide in 20 years with only one suicide in 40 years and that guy was a gangster. suicide is a definite problem in jails around the country especially among sexual predators, by the way, but this prison, no. i don't know what happened here but i don't like the way this is being put together but to make convenient excuses and too many people, as you said, looking the other way and by the way, one other point. he could have taken him out of here and put them into a psych hospital which is probably where he belongs given he was on suicide watch. what's all the security issue. this is not a terrorist but it's not like someone will bomb the prison trying to get at him. i would like to see him under armed guard in a prison warden or on a psych ward rather than in that prison. >> doctor siegel, this level of incompetent makes varney fife look competent. it's insane to me. we had a video of al troppo in a mexican jail but we don't have video on this guy the most famous prisoner in the world?

what you need to see is what is come out from the autopsy connect what you expect might prove or disprove that this was a suicide? >> excellent question. i'm leaning more to the possibility of homicide at this point because of the fractures in the neck. what i'm looking for is whether there will be a report of bruising. something that shows a violent struggle or that he may have been attacked. they can pretty much determine once and for all which this is because if he was suffocated somebody attacked him. david: doctor michael baden was at the autopsy and looking over the shoulders of the officials performing the autopsy. it's pretty clear he's representing some of the aggrieved people in the whole jeffrey epstein case and pretty clear if they try to cover up at all he will reveal that

cover-up. no? >> i'm a huge fan of his, david. i know him personally and this man knows the answers and he's uncovered many cases and under a gag order right now, by the way. he will be able to tell us at some point. david: doctor siegel, great to see you but we have some data breaking news. nascar legend dale earnhardt junior has been hospitalized after a cessna plane crash that his family owned in elizabethtown, tennessee. earnhardt, his wife and one -year-old daughter were on board along with two pilots. they all survived the crash and that is the good news and are headed to a local hospital for evaluation. as you can see, a lot of flames and smoke from this crash. faa and ntsb is investigating we will continue to monitor the story for any new developments as we get them here but we wish them the best. meanwhile, american shoppers getting an economy a boost but is it enough to ward off those wall street recession jitters? we will be asking metro chairman and lane who is joining us next. ♪ this was me six years ago... and this is me now! i got liberty mutual.

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♪ president trump: we had tremendous numbers come out today which i'm sure you saw. were very happy about that. we are doing very well. the economy is incredible and the consumer probably above all else the consumer is doing incredibly. david: president trop touting the strong economy is july retail sales have surged. walmart also noting a strong consumer confidence in its earnings report today. let's bring an apple metro chairman and ceo, my good friend. good to see you. you look at these numbers and think what recession? are the fears overblown? >> i think to some degree they are and it could be a self fulfilling prophecy if you take our space which is a restaurant space, not apple but the whole restaurant space to lightly hit incredible headwinds and frankly continued in august and these things were consumer -based economy. we got to be .

david: but restaurant figures are supposed to be doing well back up until july. in july 1st week was marginal and then as it continued they got to be more a headwind that you're walking into. if you want to use us as an example is a casual dining space which, by the way, employs about 10% of the entire working population we are not to sing good things but that could be a self fulfilling prophecy as well. the more we hear talk of recession the more people get concerned of talk of recession at that level. the sophisticated guys like you and i'm sorry, liz, you know better but the guys working and coming into our restaurants are listening to the chatter. >> listening for you're saying it's a more psychological thing and it's hitting their pocketbooks because september 1 the president, while he did delay the tariffs on some items coming from china, i noticed because i look to what was left that will be hit with 10% tariffs but a lot of food

products that come from china. different kinds of food products. are you worried about that? do you see that eventually coming to the bottom line of the restaurant industry? >> actually i do not. committees are looking good and proteins are good and that's not our concern. our concern is candidly that the consumer will latch on to this talk, talk of recession and get concerned about it. you know, uncertainty is always difficult for anything and everybody and these are working folks. our guests which are about 200,000 a week worked really hard for their money. really hard. >> what is your concern about the level of consumer debt because obviously we have a great economy and a great job market but the consumer debt side of the equation is reaching new highs at nearly $14 trillion higher than we were to peek before the 2008 financial crisis.

people are not paying their credit card bills quite as quickly and if consumer debt is this a concern to you? >> absolutely. in fact, i can tell you consumer debt piece of it makes people much more value conscious so people are coming - we can tell what they ordered be at advertiser, entrée or desert and how conscious they are of how much money they're spending. i think consumer debt has a direct relationship about dining out and how much you spend dining out. you may continue dining out where you pay in our space so hold your house on $50 for two people and maybe they're spending 40 or 35 because they're concerned about consumer debt. without a doubt, good point. >> thank you for joining us. the numbers globally so there is a slowdown but look at what is

going on in germany and merging markets but here in the united states we are seeing very similar numbers with a slowdown not necessarily a recession but manufactured activity without a six month of the year and do you think the stock is leading us into a slowdown or do you think it's exacerbating the slowdown and if you do the second where do you see this going in six months from now because that's what everyone is talking about is what we will be six are now going into 2020? >> good question. look, in six months in this environment let's look 24 hours. depending on the tweet of the day. six months is an awful long time of visibility. the only thing i can tell you in the entire space be a quick service, fast, or casual dining is all about value. long-term marketing plans which i have access to for us and for applebee's are all dealing in the value arena. >> the fourth quarter last year on the stock market was up 20% in a few trillion dollars have gone including news that it came back but during that quarter how are you affected because right now i think were down six, 7% and a lot of foreign markets are

much worse. what is the wealth effect me to you if the market continues lower? >> again were a discretionary by and you can - by the way, as commodities at the grocery level get lower and commodities at the restaurant level get lower but not at the same great extent when that curve separates we feel it. the reality is that you can buy food in supermarkets and all sorts of others and outlets and take it home and when that curve separates i can tell you were feeling it in the separation at a starting point. >> if you want to eat out but the money go to apple. it's a place to go. we be happy if you did. thank you very much. >> thank you, david. david: move over starbucks and dunkin' donuts. another company is joining the pumpkin spice bandwagon. they may have just officially gone overboard with this. wait'll you hear.

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i think that is monty python. it started out as a joke but they are confirming the company will begin selling a limited edition pumpkin spice spam this fall. they say it's for real. what you eat pumpkin spice spam? >> absolutely not. i'd rather stick a fork in my eye. cow manure ice cream. pumpkin spice spam, give me a break. >> i've been to hawaii 11 times, they are known for spam. the number of times i have eaten it, zero times. >> this is why we can't have nice things.

it was supposed to be a nice exclusive thing, now we are in august with pumpkin spice spam. i don't like e-mail spam and i don't like pumpkin spice spam. >> i'd rather soak myself in jalapeno juice. >> wonderful, i appreciate that. we'll see you back here next time. president trump speaking moments ago in new jersey, he's on his way for a rally tonight. israel denying u.s. progressive democrats congresswomen, no further rhetoric we will have a fall out, and i'm not moved by israel. epstein committed suicide. washington post reporting the autopsy found multiple neck bones fractures. we'l