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worst part of humanity. you'll hear his thoughts. plus, fresh congresswomen barred from their upcoming trip to israel, president trump is weighing in on it again tonight. >> the things that they said, omar, tlaib, what they've said is disgraceful, so i can't imagine why israel would let them in. if they want to, they can, but i can't imagine why they would do it. trish: all that plus much more. "trish regan primetime" begins now. ♪ ♪ trish: tonight, sex offender and felon jeffrey epstein's autopsy results failing to put to rest are all those growing questions around his death. multiple broken bones in epstein's death. some medical examiners claim they're more consistent with being strangled than having committed suicide by hanging. the suicide, anyway, was what

they told everybody. meanwhile, the other thing is being leaked to reporters. all of this intensifying the mystery around what exactly happened as guards allegedly slept early saturday morning in a high security manhattan prison. the investigation now comets with people -- continues with people now asking who could have accessed epstein's cell? fox news correspondent bryan llenas has the latest for us on the autopsy. >> reporter: "the washington post" citing two individuals familiar with the findings of screly epstein's -- jeffrey epstein's autopsy reports epstein broke multiple bones in his neck including near his adam's apple. multiple experts say such breaks can occur in hangings but are more common in victims of homicide by strangulation. the reported result has fueled skepticism by some leading medical examiners who claim he strangled himself by kneeling toward the floor.

>> it would be exceedingly rare. you know, i always hesitate that something is impossible, but i do not hesitate in saying that given this scenario of just leaning forward -- >> reporter: epstein's autopsy was completed sunday, but the chief medical examiner says she needed more information before determining cause of death which may include surveillance video from hallways inside the manhattan correctional center. >> let's see the tapes. even though there's not individual cell cameras in the cells ordinarily, there are range cameras. >> reporter: this as epstein's lawyers are fighting in court to keep his controversial 2008 plea deal from being thrown out despite the fact that their client is dead. lawyers for the accusers argue the non-prosecution agreement should be nullified because it unfairly provides immunity to any potential co-conspirators of end -- epstein. attorney ken starr says it should stand. >> page after page after page, every word carefully negotiated,

and it was, as we say, a global resolution. this case is closed. >> reporter: nebraska senator ben sasse has asked attorney general william barr to, quote, rip up the plea deal stating the federal government cannot allow epstein's accomplices to escape too. trish? trish: thank you very much, bryan. here with me to react, fox news contributor dr. nicole saphier and former d.c. homicide detective ted williams. good to have you both here. let's start with the medical angle first, doctor. what are they talking about the here in terms of the hyoid bone and saying that's actually not entirely what would happen, the breakage of that in an actual suicide. walk us through that. >> well, first of all, i mean, who knows? there's not a typical suicide. everything varies very much. so what they said essentially in epstein's case is they said he broke his hyoid bone as well as

some neck bones. the hyoid bone is at the front of the neck, very easy to break, and that can be broken in strangulation as well as if someone were to be hung. if something's tight around there, you can absolutely break it. so that's not what piqued my interest. when they mentioned the other cervical bones, that's where i want more detail because the cervical spine bones that protect our spinal cord, they're much more robust and harder to break. now, they can absolutely be breaking in a hanging, especially if the knot is back there and there's enough force that that can actually cause it to break. those bones respect usually seen in -- aren't usually seen in a homicide asphyxiation because they're not usually around the entire net. we don't have all the details, and people are wanting to go both ways, whatever your fancy is. another thing that interests me

is they say that epstein tied a bed sheet around his bunk bed and that is how he was able to asphyxiate himself. here's my question, the bunk beds can't be more than 7 feet high. i don't know, i've never been in the jail cell. epstein himself has to be around 6 feet tall. when you think of traditional hanging, you see it it is a forceful maneuver where people are dropped with a noose around their neck, and there's 5-10 feet below them, and that is that force that will cause the broken bones and the broken neck. there's no way that epstein could have gotten that force -- maybe there is a way that i don't know of, and so that's where i get a little interest because, yes, you can asphyxiate yourself and he could have suffocated, but that wouldn't explain the broken bones. trish: and to your point, there's conspiracies out there on all sides every which way to sunday. but right now we're still in the state where the medical examiner is not able to really declare

whether this was suicide or not, and, ted williams, from an investigative standpoint what would you be asking for right now? you heard bryan llenas saying they're looking at who was in and out of the cell, there's cameras, right? that they can be going back to to try and find the right footage. what would you be demanding? >> well, you know, trish, some of your viewers remembered the dallas series, and this is a mystery like who shot j.r -- [laughter] i can tell you that from an investigatory standpoint if, they want to look very much at the video cameras, they are talking to security guards who may or may not have been sleeping. but one of the things that they're going to do is something consistent with what the doctor just represented, they're going to do a reenactment. they are going to see how the noose was tied around his neck, they want to know his weight,

they want to know from what angle the noose was tied. those things are going to be very significant in this investigation. and again, without being redundant, those videotapes are essential and crucial because -- trish: what if they're missing? >> [inaudible] i'm sorry? trish: what if there's any parts that are missing? >> well, then the -- the mystery continues, and they are going to have to, there's about three different investigations, the state, a federal investigation and an investigation being conducted by the bureau of prisons. and those investigations are going to have to be kent at some -- consistent at some stage. trish: people want answers. ted williams, thank you so much. dr. nicole saphier, thank you. good to have you guys here. tonight, unlikable far-left mayor bill de blasio is pretty hoe in the polls. i don't think you can get any lower than this. but, you know, that doesn't seem to bother him. >> this poll seems to suggest

people are pretty comfortable with joe biden. your name, not on this list. >> this is the preseason, casey. [laughter] trish: preseason, that's all. de blasio's now touting why he is so confident he's going to win the nomination and beat donald trump. and would you believe it's because of how tall he is? [laughter] coming up. you can hear the sound of bill de blasio explaining how height is is everything. but first, you need to take a look at in the. this new horrifying video, this philadelphia police officer being laughed at, even being pelted with objects by onlookers while those officers were out there trying to keep those onlookers safe during an active shooter situation.

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out, heckling and throwing the objects at police officers. police officers that were in the midst of trying to save their lives. and save the lives of their colleagues during an eight-hour shootout and a standoff, a standoff that left six cops wounded and could have put all of those people on the street yelling at those cops in total jeopardy. fox's rick leventhal is in philadelphia tonight with the details. rick? >> reporter: trish, several blocks here in north philadelphia are still sealed off, the police are on scene along with the fbi, and we're being told that the gunman may have had a .380 handgun in his pocket when he surrendered to authority it is. [gunfire] >> reporter: this camera video shows the moment a drug raid went south at the philadelphia police narcotics strike force attempted to serve a warrant on a convicted front who they say -- felon who they say grabbed a rifle and started shooting. [gunfire] >> reporter: six officers were wounded, two more were trapped

upstairs with three suspects they took into custody, forced to take cover as the gunman kept firing, more than 100 total rounds out the windows and up through the ceiling from the ground floor. >> long gun. >> be advised, this location shooting upwards and forward into the opposition of the police. >> use caution. >> reporter: hours after the standoff began, s.w.a.t. rescued the trapped the officers and the three suspects they were holding with the gunman barricading himself, refusing to give up. >> in the beginning of that scene being there, i did not think it would end nearly the way it did. >> reporter: just midnight, nearly eight hours later, police fired tear gas into the home, and the suspect, maurice hill, walked out with his hands up. a career criminal with a lengthy rap sheet now facing attempted murder charges, aggravated assault and weapons and drug

violations. philadelphia's mayor called for stricter gun control. >> incidents like this should not keep happening, not in our city and not in our country. >> reporter: and officers were dodging more than bullets. cell phone video shows a crowd of angry residents taunting and laughing at cops, even throwing trash and shoving at least one as the standoff dragged on. all six of the officers wounded by gunfire were treated and released last night. the commissioner says it's a miracle that none were killed and no civilians hurt either. trish? trish: happy ending there, for sure. thank you, rick. joining me right now, detective steve loomis, a member of the cleveland police homicide unit and former president of the cleveland patrolmen's association. steve, good to have you here. let's go back to that video for a moment. can we see that again? people should see what these folks there were doing to the police officers. they were heckling them, taunting them, yelling at them while the police officers are there trying to keep them safe from, you know, stray bullets or

potentially something much worse there last night. how do you react to that, steve? >> that is absolutely appalling. my hat's off to the men and women of the philadelphia police department. outstanding work. and what i would like every single person the take away from this is the fact that these police officers were under fire. several of their partners got hurt and hit, and yet this individual was able to walk out and was arrested professionally and honorably by these officers to have his day in court. if you comply with the police officer' orders, you will not get hurt. and for politicians, especially presidential candidates, presidential hopefuls to be making martyrs out of criminals when the police officers were clear in these types of situations is absolutely appalling, absolutely appalling to me. trish e trish yeah. it keeps happening over and over

again -- >> that oar -- trish: go ahead. >> i'm sorry. those politicians are actually fueling that fire. and we're seeing the results of it. and the people that they claim to be championing are the ones that are suffering the most for it, because we do have the ferguson effect across this country. police officers are being less and less proactive every single day because of scenes like this. because of politicians. the president of the united states, the former president of the united states started it all with those police officers acted stupidly. president obama started it all with cambridge. they sent the united states attorney general to ferguson. hands up, don't shoot was born. and that was the beginning of the situations that we're seeing now. and the people that are being hurt the most are the people that need us the most, these cities. and there is -- i guarantee you in that neighborhood there was hundreds, if not thousands of great people that live in that neighborhood in philadelphia that were cowering in fear and

praying for those cops. trish: yeah. >> to take care of that situation. trish: you know, it's challenging because you get a lot of communities across this country where a police presence is very, very needed. police are more reluctant, understandably so given that they, you know, might actually have to fear for their lives in these environments. so the people need them there, and yet simultaneously a lot of people don't want them there because they're fearful that the police are going to be, you know, too aggressive, and you're going to be subjected to some kind of police brutality because of the color of your skin. look, i mean, detective loomis, you know, something, something has to give here because we need to keep people safe. >> yeah. well, what needs to give is that the politicians need to start supporting the police officers and the police departments across this country and not treating us as a necessary evil. trish: yeah. >> because the law-abiding citizens want us out there, they

need us out there to protect them. and there's great people in every neighborhood of every major city in this country. they're just living in different levels of fear. and it's fear -- now the police are going deeper and deeper, and it's harder and harder to get them out of the police cars now because they don't have the support that they had from the politicians. this, a problem falls directly on the shoulders of the politicians from the former president of the united states all the way down to attorney generals and to the mayors and the city councils of these cities that use these incidents for political fodder. you know, they're trying to move themselves ahead politically thinking that they're appeasing a large section of society when they're really only appeasing the loudest section society and the smallest. trish: well, hopefully some of them might start to listen. unfortunately, i think it's probably not the case. but detective loomis, your point

is well taken. thank you so much. good to have you here: much more coming up. liberals accusing president trump of racism and divisive rhetoric. >> we have a president with a toxic tongue who's publicly and unapologetically embraced the political strategy of hate, racism and division. >> he's a racist. that's always been in the background. he's encouraging not just racism, but the violence that follows. >> in the white house is someone who seems to have racist sentiment. trish: well, now one msnbc an is comparing trump supporters to members of a terrorist organization. i'm just going to go out on a limb and say that seems kind of divisive, doesn't it? but first, after protests and anti-semitic remarks, israel is barring rashida tlaib and ilhan omar from visiting their country. my next guest agrees a thousand

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let them in. israel's prime minister, benjamin netanyahu explained the move this way: israel is open to criticism, with one exception. those who call for and work to impose boycotts on israel. so there you go. therejoining me right now, exece director of the republican jewish coalition, matthew brooks. matthew, good to have you here. >> great to be with you, trish. trish: i'm assuming you think this was the right decision, you know? these women are not exactly people that you could consider friends of israel, so why'd they want to go there in the first place? >> well, i think that's a great question, and i think, you know, once you take a step back, and the prime minister noted this in his statement. if you look at the itinerary of these two congresswomen, you will see that this was not a good faith trip on their part to go with an open mind and to meet with folks and to learn about the different complex issues over in the region. they had no meetings scheduled with the prime minister, no

meetings scheduled with anyone from the opposition parties. there was not a meeting with a single member of the knesset, a meeting with any of the members of the israeli cabinet or the military or intelligence folks. they came to israel specifically to use israel as a backdrop for them to promote their radical policy ideas. trish: yeah. i think benjamin netanyahu had to take a stand on this one. in some way though, israel was damned if it does, damned if it doesn't, because these well say, oh, we're going to go to israel. and that in and of itself is a headline, israel has to respond. if they say, sure, come on in, they have an opportunity to bash the country, as i'm sure they would have done given their past behavior. if israel says, you know, you don't really like us that much, you repeatedly said how much you don't like us, you know, we're not going to roll out the red carpet for you, then they then get to go on another p.r. tour

saying, well, you know, we tried, israel's not going to let us. so i hear ya in terms of it being bad faith, and i suspect it was exactly that from the very beginning. what do you think of ilhan omar? >> well, look, i think that what she has said in the past in terms of some of her blatantly anti-semitic comments, her whole hearted embrace, full-throated endorsement of the bds movement is a cause for real concern. the question is what kind of traction does she and aoc and rashida tlaib and the rest of the squad get with the rank and file democrats in congress. we just finished this past week 41 democrats went over on a trip with majority leader steny hoyer, and that was a great trip the, and it underscored -- and i applaud them for going, because they had a chance to engage with multiple sides in the issues over there. these folks, you know, wanted to

go do their own thing. so i hope, and i'm sort of troubled by some of the embrace by some of the democratic leadership in the house of ilhan omar and rashida tlaib in this case, and i really hope that as we learn more about and the american people learn more about them and their anti-semitic and pro-bds views, then they will continue to be marginalized in the democratic party. right now i fear they're not at all. trish: no. they've got a little too much star power, which is a dangerous thing for democrats and a dangerous thing for this cup. matthew, good to see see you. thank you very much. >> thanks, trish. trish: liberals accusing president trump of racism and divisive rhetoric. >> this is just more recklessness. what he's doing is dangerous. >> this is another example of our president using this position of public trust to attack his political enemies with unfounded conspiracy theories. >> absolutely un-presidential. trish: okay.

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everyone is safe and has been taken to the hospital for further evaluation. switching gears, president trump urging chinese president xi jinping to meet with hong kong protesters amid clashes with riot police that have paralyzed the city for ten weeks in its worst political crisis in decades. >> i am concerned. i wouldn't want to see a violent crackdown. i would be willing to bet that if he sat down with the protesters, a group of representative protesters,, i'll bet he'd work out it out in 15 minutes. it really seems like things could be worked out pretty easily. trish: joining me to react, former defense policy assistant undersecretary under president reagan and director for chinese strategy at the hudson institute, michael pillsbury. michael, good to see you again. what do you think about that? do you think that xi jinping would ever, ever do something like that? what the president's talking about probably a lot more his

style than xi jinping's. >> well, i think the president has had a pretty clear strategy on xi jinping since the transition. the focus is his trade talks and his comments about china right on xi jinping. that's because he's the leader, he's the dictator, to put it impolitely, and president trump believes -- i think he's correct about this, by the way, based on my roughly 40 years' experience. you need to focus on the top guy. what president trump has done is controversial with our superhawks because in his tweet just yesterday he referred to president xi jinping as a great leader who has the respect of his people. now, that's really different from superhawks who want to call the regime nazis and, you know, equate president xi to hitler, but those people don't have power, and i think they're wrong. so this affect -- trish: specifically what i was just talking about there was his advice for xi jinping, you know, you want to fix the protests in

hong kong, sit down with some of the protesters. again, this is much more from sort of his playbook where he's more willing to talk through things and work something out. that's his style. it's also his style to say, hey, buddy, let me give you a little advice here, something that might actually work. but, you know, xi jinping, to your point, very different. hawks would treat him very differently. when you look at these trade talks, he backed off some of those tariffs he could have put in. was that an okay move? >> yes. he's trying to soften the impact on the united states. the chinese are already hurting pretty badly. i think they've lost two million jobs, in part because of the tariffs so far. they're in shock. they've never seen a president this tough before. and critics who try to undermine the president, they're really prolonging the trade war. that kind of breaks my heart. i think what president trump's trying to do is without causing

xi jinping to lose face, he wants xi to give the orders to hong kong, stop this. do not send in the troops. blame the local governor for this, but don't make an international incident out of it. she may succeed, trump may succeed in getting xi to do that behind the scene. if trump starts saying, and i is a nazi, we're never going to get the trade talks concluded. we were very close back in may. we're still close now, and you can imagine what's going to happen to the dow jones average, trish. it's going to go up 2,000 points. trish: yeah, i know. look -- >> this is a very crafty president, a very subtle approach. trish: there are investors out there that are quite worried that china has a lot of tentacles ask in a lot of places and owes a lot of people money. so, you know, you think about long-term capital and the challenge that that presented to the markets, you know, some bankers got together and fixed it, but then you later, of

course, had lehman brothers which had that contagion effect. their question is if china really goes kaput, what is the overall sort of global effect? so i suppose he's trying to manage that because it means something for u.s. investors. but at the same time, michael, i look at the china thing, and i'm like, you know, what president trump is doing is great, but this needed to be done 20, 30 years ago. >> that's right. trish: i mean, trying to do it all right now is especially tough. >> i think one of the things that's bothering president trump a lot is all this talk about a coming collapse in china. this is a really strong economy. they can stand a little pain, and that's what's happening to them, this loss of jobs, these american companies, other foreign companies too leaving china. president xi knows about this. he's trying to measure the chances biden will win -- which which i think is wishful thinking, but some chinese really believe biden's going to win the election and this whole problem will go away. the other thing that the chinese

think about is this collapse. they don't believe it. but as long as we belief it, and gordon chang here is the leading advocate that china's going to collapse real soon, so we ought to be soft, give them a break, not be too tough. i think that's just tragically wrong -- trish: but you're okay with the president backing off the tariffs? >> that's right. i think the president has said china would be surpassing us now if hillary clinton had won the election. it's not going to happen on my watch. i think he's even said that to you directly, trish. trish: yeah. >> he really believes this is a strong economy in china, and he's got to take very crafty measures to get them to go straight -- trish: i see. so a little bit here, a little bit there. >> yes. [laughter] they're not going to collapse. trish: michael, the path we were on and the path, frankly, that's one of the concerns about if you get a democrat that doesn't quite recognize or understand the threats of china -- and, by the way, historically democrats

have, so it's a shame that they're not right now, but if they don't understand or recognize that, then we're going to have big, big problems. because you can't wake up ten years from now, fifteen years from now -- >> i agree with you. we're going to be number two in the world, and it's going to be irreversible if we don't take measures against china and not think they're going to collapse in the near term. there's nowhere near a collapse. they're really a strong country. their growth rate, even now, trish, has been triple ours. they're still on the path the president's worried about of surpassing us. trish: michael, thank you so much. >> i'm a little worried, trish. trish: yeah, i know you are. i am too, and it's time to do something about it. >> well, you ought to get your chai -- chinese host on again and debate her. maybe it's time for another round. trish: you know, she reached out to me the other day, and i think you might be on to something. we should talk a little bit more and see where the actual chinese

are right now. anyway, michael, good to see you. >> thanks, trish. trish: a hot more coming up. a runaway ostrich sprinting down some busy streets. actually, this came to us from china. coming up, fox nation's brit mchenry has that story. but first, liberals are keeping president trump's racism and divisive rhetoric as one msnbc analyst is comparing trump supporters to terrorists. as if that's not divisive, right? and crazy and mean and awful and all those things, but you've got to hear the sound. after the break. ♪ liberty mutual customizes your car insurance, so you only pay for what you need. i wish i could shake your hand. granted. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ who used expedia to book the vacation rental

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♪ muck. >> we'll see what happens. whoever, you know, whoever it is, i don't know that it matters, but whoevers it is,, different people. but i don't know, i think sleepy joe may be able to limp across the finish line. [laughter] trish: that's the president in man manchester, new hampshire, in a state he hopes to flip red in 2020. right now front-runner joe biden is losing significant ground to massachusetts senator elizabeth warren in her biggest leap in the polls to date. ginning me right now -- joining

me right now is author of "taken for granted," donald caldwell, and columnist adam epstein. good to see you guys. i'm an expert on this state because i was born and raised and still spend a lot of time there. it's gotten increasingly liberal in recent years, in part because you have a lot of people from montana moving up. from massachusetts moving up. you get now a massachusetts senator that's gaining pretty significantly on joe biden, and the word on the street from a lot of democrats i've talked to back there, adam, is she's a power horse. she's -- they like her. which i actually think is bad for your party, if she gets the nomination. but i want to hear your thoughts. >> well, i am very excited about our field of candidates. i've not yet decided who i'm going to support. i think elizabeth warren is a very, very strong candidate. i think she's very specific on policy. trish: she's a socialist.

>> no, she's not. [laughter] trish: she wants to tax you and give it to me. >> [inaudible] [laughter] trish: no -- >> she's not a socialist, she's a hubert humphrey liberal in the old school. as i said, i haven't made a decision, but to label her a socialist -- >> trish: she wants to bring everyone here. she wants to have open borders. >> trish, she actually declared herself a liberal capitalist. you can look it up, i promise you. remember the e trish okay. most liberal capitalist, if you want to use the political definition of the term would not believe in opening up our borders and say, hey, come one, come all. we'll give you free health care, free education, hey, you might even get a stipend. >> listen, this is the democratic mantra, free everything. it has become problematic for democrats that elizabeth warren is moving up in the polls, and i'm sure a lot of the establishment view her to be a

threat, especially considering the fact that polls show joe biden is the best, their best choice against president trump. the thing is though even with her being a person who's released the most policy positions of any of the candidates, it isn't going to fly with mainstream america. americans have been polled, and although young folks have said they are more in favor of socialist policies, those aren't the one who traditionally vote. so what we're going to see here is a lot of mainstream americans as the democrats move closer to the left and if joe biden sees this as an opportunity to go further left, they're going to reject the democratic party and their policies -- trish: yeah, i wonder if a lot of people that support trump will reject this. you've gotten an msnbc analyst, to switch gears here, out likening trump supporters to members of a terrorist organization. i want you to see this sound. here we go. >> attacking his followers is going to be counterproductive. he demands that loyalty, and they are loyal.

so if you call trump followers racist en masse, they simply coalesce around each other and become even more defensive and protective of the leader. just as they would in, say, a terrorist organization. trish: whoa! i mean, come on, was that necessary? adam? >> no, no. i mean, i'm not going to come on here and condone that kind of language are, you know that, i wouldn't do that. transcribe trish thank you, but -- >> i will say this. no, i will not. that's a very silly and unnecessary thing to say. but i will say this, theodore roosevelt said the presidency is the bully pulpit, right? he meant it was a force for moral suasion and moral good, and you have to admit trump has been incredibly divisive -- trish: gianno, you're an african-american man, do you consider this president racist? >> here's the problem, trish, me growing up in a poor neighborhood on the south side of chicago, it was indoctrinated in in that every republican is a racist no matter who that

individual is, no matter who that individual is. so this is where it becomes problematic from using these terms to apply across all people. trish: i hear you. unfortunately, i'm out of time. thank you both. bill de blasio has some really weird reason as to why he thinks he's going to win the presidency. that's next. ♪ ♪ all money managers might seem the same, but some give their clients cookie cutter portfolios. fisher investments tailors portfolios to your goals and needs. some only call when they have something to sell. fisher calls regularly so you stay informed. and while some advisors are happy to earn commissions whether you do well or not. fisher investments fees are structured so we do better when you do better. maybe that's why most of our clients come from other money managers. fisher investments. clearly better money management. ♪

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welcome back chris fox host. >> good to see you again. crazy fun stories. the first one is pretty interesting video. a wild goose chase. it happens to be an ostrich. nature gone wild. [laughter] so this is an ostrich running through the street of china. can you imagine walking down the street and see that. i feel like china has bigger problems than the ostrich. >> i'm happy because we actually had to go to cctv to get this video and they release it to us so that was generous of the chinese. we got a little diplomacy going on. >> i know they would be faced about happened in new york. >> more animal stories coming up. in the meantime bill de blasio

counting a reason why he is definitely going to be donald trump and it is interesting. >> the candidate almost always wins and i'm taller than donald trump. [applause] >> maybe it's a little tongue-in-cheek for that. this is the guy who is pulling. how is that helpful to new york city where you know this is the city that is not a thigh with her eating hot dogs. there is a quitting to the with ronald reagan was left-handed, bill clinton left-handed, george h the b bush left-handed, barack obama left-handed, are you left-handed? >> i wish.

>> this is an interesting story. we had a big debate in the newsroom with the whole team. we are going back and forth because there are some people that think this is great. the list of service animals has just gotten bigger. many horses have now been cleared you can bring a cat or a dog or a mini horse on an airplane. i would be pretty upset if i sat down and salsa buddy with a mini horse next to me. there are other members of the team that think this would be wonderful. >> if you are going to allow the big dog in the golden doodles o. this is a serious debate. how would you feel if you got a mini horse seated next to you.

>> if they were crunching carrots next meet instead of the screaming -- >> like that for sure he would be on my side with this one. police in florida catching an unusual suspect. red handed while trying to get a snack from a vending machine. a raccoon so cute. we have a lot of these down important. they are awful. he was risking it all. [laughter] he was risking it for two as lawyers. last story, a couple that think they know the secret of a happy marriage they been married for 68 years and she has been picking out her husband's outfits for the entire marriage. and they have to be matching. >> girls these da days if you cn get your husband to dress and

matching outfits that's adorable and that's why i missing marriage. >> we are celebrating our 18th wedding anniversary. >> congratulations. >> thank you. >> i am sure by now your vote expert because we have learned jeffrey epstein broke multiple bones in his neck during his highly anticipated and predicted suicide. it is right there in the front of the neck. apparently it's a common string elation, homicide fracture in the line of people that wanted to break his neck could where he died. epstein reportedly threw himself off the top bunk in a violent dressed and maybe because it was not hanging that accounts for the less than probable fracture. but n i