right person. trish: good to see you, have a teterrific night, kennedy begins now. kennedy: thank you, happy monday, u.s. military quote locked and loaded, president said that u.s. is ready to fight whoever attacked a major oil facility in saudi arabia, should we really be getting involved in another potential middle east blood bath? reportedly handles about 50% of saudi arabia oil output, iranian backed rebels in yemen first claims responsibility. but expert say, they may not have the sophisticated weaponry needed for such an attack.

today president said it might be time to take off the gloves. >> that was a large attack, it could be met with an attack many, many times larger. we'll find out who definitively did it first. united states is more prepared. kennedy: you can go your own way snoal♪ inland regional centeiranians sr battle, and president said he does not really want to go to war. >> i don't want war with anyone. i am someone who would really not like to have war. we have stron strongest militarn the world. kennedy: some democrats, say we may be passed that point of no return. >> iran is one of most dangerous

state sponsors of terrorism, this may call for military action. kennedy: utah republican senator mitt romney said that would be a terrible idea, saying: >> so who is behind this attack? what should our response be. joining me, host of the next revolution. steph hilton, welcome back. >> hello. kennedy: how do we know for certain for certain that it was iran? >> well, i don't think we have that evidence yet. in public domain. but if you look at the

incentives who else? it all points to iran, they are feeling the pain of the tough economic antions that u.s. -- sanctions that u.s. has been putting on iran, trump administration had a tougher approach. and the iranians want to get those sanctions lifted, that is why there is an incentive to hurt the saudi oil supply, but none is a reason for going along with what iran wants. i think that everyone you quoted there, they have good points, i don't think there is a simpistic answer, it has nothing to do with us. nobody wants war, they don't want to get into another middle east blood bath as you put it, but you can't allow a country like iran, doing this economic

terrorism on a big scale without a consequence. that is just a green light. kennedy: i don't disagree with that, i agree a show of force like this, deserves to be met with a show of force, just not by us. does not mean that united states has too inject itself into the problem. saudi arabia, can jordan can, uae can, i don't have a problem with those people in their own backyard defending themselves, i do have a problem with is if iranna so unstable and supporting terrorism and iffy this -- if they are willing to disrupt oil supply why would we apiecappease them? >> i agree, another aspect to focus on is the unhelpful role this europeans have played when . when president trump rightly got

out of the iran nuclear deal, the europeans wanted to go back in keep it alive. that was -- those are the french and brits and germans, they did not work, the french now putting money on the table, saying let's bribe them to negotiate. and in is so unhelpful, you want that tough economic pressure that trump administration put on to avoid going 32 too -- going to war. if we could keep that up. >> here is what i believe. i believe in american technological innoin innovation. i think it is time that we figure out a way to speed up the evolution, so we're off oil, the

oil causes so many problems. maybe i should buy a tesla? i don't know. >> tesla people are arguing for more taxpayer subsidies to make it easier for you kennedy. kennedy: no more subsidies, limited government, peace, capitalism, our strength, steve hilton thank you. >> great to see. >> thank you. >> there is one big problem with this narrative, we have to trust saudi arabia. they are not trustworthy either, you know, that last year, they killed "washington post" columnist, and torture and kill dissidents all of the time, women have very few basic nights and 13 of the hijackers from 9/11 came from saudi arabia, in other words horrible allies. president was asked if he was protects saudis.

>> i have not, saudis' very much for us to protect them, but i say, well, we have to work, that was an attack on saudi arabia, not on us. kennedy: very important. glad he said that, should we trust the saudis? could they drag us into a war we don't need? let's meet our party panel. jessica tar and jason meister, and editor of reason, peter suderman. computer man, let's compute this, there is talk of u.s., sharing intelligence with saudi arabia, and we have to stop axing as though the government has secret knowledge, and that secret means that we have to follow-up with military force to keep us safe. >> yeah, right, i think that is

what got us into war in iraq mistakenly. the idea that the pentagon knows what is best, but they can't tell it to the american people, it has been disproven. that clip with donald trump, important to note the way he followed it up after what he said was, you know, this was not an attack on us, but we would help them. they have been a great ally, he said they spend 400 billion in our country, this is most worrying that he treats saudi arabia as a client, as if he is a real estate developer. i like that donald trump had strong antiwar instincts, i hope

this is just a threat, not something he intends to do. and if you go back to early this summer, he by his own account was 10 minutes away from striking iran, decided not to. that of -- was the right decision. kennedy: some of the hawks did not like that, they say that is why you see this aggression from iran in concert against saudi arabia, but i don't know buy that. >> i don't buy it, i think this is proof that sanctions are working, he is using the economic tools of warfare, as opposed to warfare. the drone strike, he was minutes away, he said, he asked someone civilians would die, he is a compassion at measures responder, that is important in

a leader of the free world. this is a very calculated attack on the world energy supply, that we've never seen before, this is 5% of world oil. this is massive, it needs to be met with a proportionate responses. kennedy: by the united states? >> i don't think so, i am not buying this we have so far from level of information we should have. kennedy: someone is trying to goad u.s. to war. >> we know who it is, saudi arabia likes it. and the iranians are upset, we know that conditions are better in teres -- terms of blowing things up. iamerica takes ourselves out of the deal with no replacement. we have yet to see anything.

it is important to spend time on what an ally means, saudi arabia is not same kind of ally as france or germany, saudi arabia has nothing to do who moral fiber of u.s. of america, they are better to be teamed up with than iran for instance, but they are lowest of the low, they murdered jamal, they treat women terically anterricterribly and f you look at what actions of state department. kennedy: i don't buy that what so ever part. >> you say we're better off? >> yes, to iran. >> returning their own money. >> they are now violating the terms o of a deal in terms of nuclear enrichment. kennedy: give them piles of cash

that will make it better. >> but president trump said. kennedy: but -- >> i take the president at his word. kennedy: you dismiss those words. >>, what i don't know. kennedy: it will get -- we're just warming up. republicans are ripping "new york times" calling their reporting on new allegations again brett kavanaugh irresponsible. still calling for supreme court justice to be impeached. juan williams withtion jackson. can my side be firm?

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kennedy: bombshell, no, new york time this weekend publi publisht they called bombshell allegations against supreme court justice brett ca kavanaug. story of a total bust. claiming he drunkenly pulled down his pants and rubbed his wiener who a female student.

today, they had to retract that. the friend declined to comment. democrats jumped on unfai unvied claim. >> this was a rushed, and botched investigation, i think that he has disqualified himself for service on the supreme court. he should step down or be impeached. >> my concern that process was a sham, i don't think you can look at prim impeachment hearings wit the documents, attorney general is shields documents. kennedy: president trump came to his defense this weekend, tweeting quote:

>> why are democrats still hell bent on yanking kavanaugh off the bench, joining me, juan williams. >> how are you. kennedy: i look at this, a person who is unaffiliated voter, cav ne kavanaugh is the e rorschach test. if you like him, he is innocent, if you hate him, he is is a sel rapist. >> he stirs conservative base, people see him as victimized, and taken over. but on other hand, the democrats see him and see this whole episode is about abortion and garland denied a seat on the

court. >> i just want to take a quick aside before brett kavanaugh. what happens next year in 2020 if there is a have a cans to the court -- have a cans s vacancy . >> you know this. mcconnell said he will have hearings some force that nominee to a vote. kennedy: i thought you could not do that during an elect year. >> he said, that but difference is system party in white house in control of senate 4678 that i.-- that is a difference withot a difference, this is about 2020 politics. kennedy: i think you are right, this is not as much about brett kavanaugh, you are right just the name brett kavanaugh stirs up both extreme bases. >> largely because of perceived notion he would vote against abortion on the court, senator collins of maine said he

promised hear her, he would not, that but the fear is there that he would do that and there is an certain with justice ginsberg's health. kennedy: and clearanc clarence s -- >> i know him, i would not buy this, but justice breyer is in his early 80s, this is radio rao active politically. kennedy: they both want to use that football as their advantage. my fear is, that it gets so ugly and so important philosophically to take apart past opinions of the jurists and not focus on just one issue, you could be

stuck with a real turkey. >> without a doubt, i could tell you stories. right now the credibility of the courts, it is in play, the way it has not been in last i would say 50 years. the criticism is now comes from the left. kennedy: the discord will be so imbalances for so long. if president get one more pick. >> one last thing, coming back to brett kavanaugh, i think that people are leaping over "new york times" and authors are the book. they say that the claim is they have more people who were never interviewed by the fbi, all of the emphasis is on a different claim and a different person. kennedy: because the claims north new -- not new, they used

this other reported victim as a trojan horse, to trot all this out, and,ish we have more time. >> we get back. kennedy: thank you, juan. >> my pleasure. kennedy: president today calling out new york times for sloppy reporting. >> i think that "new york times" made another terrible mistake, it is a shame i think like that could happen, i see them making a big correction, they don't do fact checking about more, they used to call and say what about this and that? hughow can they do a thing like that and destroy lives. kennedy: texas senator cruz ripping the times for their correction, tweeting:

>> so will the "new york times" be held accountable for irresponsible reports soar or ex second same news from old gray lead, suderman, i start with you. i stand by my assertion that new allegation was a trojan horse. >> i think that criticism of times is warranted and also you can go too far. the "new york times" and a good paper. they have a giant editor note saying we got the story wrong, and they update it, the story -- >> why run it in the nurs first place. >> when you work on a daily schedule you make mistakes.

>> why do they swing one way? >> democratic candidate to leapt on this, warren and sanders said there were huge new revelations? what revelations? they were that there is an alleged victim who according to her friends, does not remember. kennedy: does not want to go on record and talk about something she disuz no does not remember. >> bottom line is we live in the age of narratives, instead of the facts matter. we have the jussie smollett matter, and russia collusion hoax, this hoax. every accusation against brett kavanaugh have been proven to be disqualified, they are

narratives, not facts, they are leaped on there because of their hatred for trump, it needs to stop. >> >> let's talk about right ring g narratives about hillary clint clinton. i am having a trump derangement syndrome. >> they have all boomeranged. >> jussie smollett does not work on empire any more there was a fair amount of skepticism about it. kennedy: can i just -- can i suggest one thing? there is stuff that brett kavanaugh did that was suspect,

when he was early on in college before he decided to be a serious person. i don't know if those are impeachmentable. we have too sae accept that bret kavanaugh an is a supreme court justice, in present modern brett kavanaugh adult era, he has not done anything that is impeachmentable. now we have to do a better job of vetting these people, and not trying to overreach to cancel them if they don't go out wear. our way. >> that concer conversation is n about this. kennedy: he is not going to be impeached. >> and not removed from the court, the democrats need to

focus on progress. make it clear to voters how serious the vacancies are, there is one maybe twho two in next 4 years. kennedy: there is a way to go about that that should not be rooted in emotionalis implement domecrats will do more damage. >> i think it is new information that so many people reached out on fbi. kennedy: that is another process to fix going forward. thank you. we'll have more with panel, that good, by gum. right now let's take a live look at the president. in a rally no rio rancho, new mexico, right now, we'll keep you updated, if he makes news, he just might, god bless the u

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switches, nsa programs were breaking and entering, spying then lying, making snowden's crimes minuscule by comparison. could no longer be met with we're protects you from bad guy's propaganda, we entered to 6 years of on going discussion about mass surveillance and role of the scope of government. to the 2016 campaign spying from the fbi to the doj, we needed these changes, that would be impossible without the snowden revelation. he wants a fair and open trial but will be prosecute the opaquely. the tone has been set by secretary of state, and president. who have in past, respectively called for his death september 11 ansense --sentence and execud

debate whether snowden is a trader. privacy tools have exploded, as a result, there is still an unhealthy abuse of power, that is an on going magnet for corruption, let a jury of snowden peers decide his fate. he will then be joined in jail by deep state power hoarders, who are too eager to make and exploit loopholes to make us more vulnerable, that is the memo. ♪ kennedy: snowden admitted to cbs this week that it is not hard to make the argument that i broke

the law, but should he languish in an american prison or worse, mottmoscow more of forever. jason, is he a trader? >> he is. he did break the law, but a lot of things you said are true, there is public benefit to what he had done. if not so much unbelievable corruption between the cia and nsa there would be no role for him to leak. there is benefit, but under the espionage act there is my jury to hear why the motivation for the leak happened. there is no allowance are in that, you break the law that is what happens. kennedy: yes. however, he is asking for basic due process is that too much. >> absolutely not, everyone is due their due process. but i remain conflicted about

snowden. i think that systemic government overreach is a problem. illegal collection of data. but at the same time, the release of some of the information which has national security implications is concerning, but a fair trial for everyone, i don't think he can get one. i might prefer him stay in moscow. kennedy: i would like to hear what he has to say, snowden claims, i do not put lives at risk, if i did, show me the proof, i think if there was proof, which is that pompeo said in 20 ski 2016 it would have bee public. >> snowden's critics have -- have not backed it up, history will judge snowden. kindly in many ways, because he

was right about the way that big tech and big government have gotten together to surveil our lives and try to take power away us from as individuals and give that power to big corporations and big government had. he is not in prison, but he is paying a price, living in exile, away from family, friends, from the life he knew, this not nothing, he chose that and knew. and so, you know, if it is not quite honorable this is a thing to respect a little bit. kennedy: yes, and you know, he saw he knew what government was doing, incriible too me is that nsa with these tools did not realize one of their contractors was taking these documents, seems like pis poor cyber security. >> right. there is a difference between right and wrong, and lawful and

unlawful. kennedy: what if he tried legal route. >> it would not have been as effective. >> he would have been shut down. kennedy: you have reported about bill benny, who was a similar whistle-blower who was pull out of showers the gun point by fbi, after he made revelations very similar. >> government does not like whistle-blowers, it will take every action they can too try to shut them down, and snowe snowde shows that a committed whistle-blower with public interest in mind can make a difference, perhaps at great personal cost. kennedy: people are very mad at him. but because of his work we've been able too pullback some of the layers. >> this is about the public.

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biggs,ic web. welcome back. >> with you. kennedy: how did doj use nancy's words again her. >> they have a court filing, nancy says one thing, and speaker said one thing, and chairman said this is an investigation for impeachment purposes, but you have to take it to the floor and get a vote. speaker say we'll just follow the facts, she is meandering in her excuses. last time they had a vote, it within down 300 something odd to 93. they have debated about what to call it, an inquiry, an investigation, an oversight. they are looking to find anything to bring an prime impet

hearing. kennedy: and looking for ways to inflict political damages, i think voters will get frustrated unless there is something big and conclusive. if there is then they have to do their job. right now they are wasting time and grasping at stlaws, they should be -- straws, they should be reaching for ideas, i don't know how you feel about climate changes, if democrat fear we have a dozen years left on the planet, they should reach across aisle to come up with a few things in interim. >> they will not reach across on virtually anything. i am afraid. but this particular group, and judiciary committee, this is where it is bubbling over, this is not a rational reaction, this

is avis -- visceral reaction. instead of moving to optimal path they build new regime institutional rules, hoping one day it will turn into a right path, but it will not, they will keep running it out. i believe until the end of the 2020 elect. kennedy: how did you take the reins of freedom caucus. >> we had an elect, normal due court election. because of term limitations, for good or bad my colleagues elected me. kennedy: will you be more liberty minded? >> i think i am a more liberty minded person, we want to continue to grow the cache of freedom caucus.

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