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to stifle innovation and that's going to be very interesting to everyone on the panel. innovation we're talking about personalized medicine talking about a time when something comes out like some kind of immune o therapy, bioengineered products, genetics, new cancer treatments, new robotics. all of these things work for some people not for other people and they are extremely expensive there's simply no way that a negotiated medicare price is going to cover these innovative treatments. >> so one of the things that seems to get everybody angry is that foreign countries pay less for american drugs than americans do, and i have to say that's a pretty winning kind of campaign thought or whatever. what's your response to that? why is it happening and will this proposal alleviate that? >> it is happening and the reason it's happening is because the block negotiates the same way that they are proposing here but in a way it's fixing the front end by addressing the rear end. if we want that to be fixed, liz , we should put a stop to it,

i say, by export taxes. i think that any drugs we export to foreign countries should have a tax on them almost like a tariff. i mean, look, the secretary has said let's import price controls , essentially by saying we're not going to pay more than they're paying. that has a serious downside as well. i'd just rather see us tax anything outgoing and i also want to add we're talking about a global marketplace here. it's not the way we used to say it. all drugs manufactured in the united states were paying for the pipeline here, we're paying so that a drug manufacturer could make $1 billion to go from beginning to where they reach the market. why is there stuff being made in china and india. >> but it's not being originated out of china and they are produced there but the research is done here and europe >> exactly so they get the benefit. david: jonathan? >> but that, you practiced medicine for quite a long time. isn't government really the elephant in the room here that no one including speaker pelosi

is talking about? look if government promised to buy everyone a hamburger every year i promise you, hamburger prices would go up year after year after year because that's exactly what happens in medicine my gosh you can do back to bush 's prescription part d to obamacare even the medicare itself which now pays for 30% of prescription drugs, also just about 15 10 years ago so without addressing the elephant in the room, government is a major buyer of healthcare in this country. >> i love that you guys are all saying that pelosi's plan is so radical. this is pretty close to president trump's plan when he was a candidate. >> it has some of the same elements. >> this is very clear that medicare -- >> this is very clear that president trump's plan when he was a candidate. >> this is much more extensive like a med medicare patient can't pay more than 2,000 a year , and we'll penalize you. >> it's price control.

>> it was government medicare was able to negotiate and challenge prescription drug prices, and challenge pharmaceutical pricing. this was president trump's original plan. yes, it has more detail. >> it's more expensive though. >> but it's called radical. >> i want to address jonathan's point though because when it's this extensive and i think your point is fair if we could find a way to just negotiate the way private insurers do that it would be one thing but to jonathan's point when it's government doing the negotiating it's so bureaucratic. you have to, i as a doctor -- you have to appeal for every treatment. i have this right now going on with my mother-in-law, whose thank god, recovered from pneumonia. she can't get her tube feeds approved medicare. if medicare starts getting more into the game and negotiating you'll have less treatment to offer. >> and how are we depending on

a government and people in government running trillion dollar deficits and 22 trillion of debt to tell us what to do on pricing of anything. they have not been able to show that they know how to balance any book, and they're going to tell us what the price is going to be? the market is the best price of all items. >> wait a second. i agree with gary on that, they have not been great to negotiate i mean, gary and i are fully aligned there. that being said they are the largest buyer of prescription drugs. they should have the ability to negotiate. david: by the way the prescription drug program was george bush's doing. but go ahead, doctor. hold on. go ahead. >> i'm not against robert's point, but i also want to point out to jonathan's point do you know what works when it comes to negotiating prices? medicare advantage, and that's actually working making money for everyone, providing services that seniors like and immensely popular, grown to almost 40% of

the medicare situation is now turned over to medicare advantage and they are negotiat ing prices so if i could expand that more, i'd be happy to. i'm not against the government negotiating prices. i'm against how this is being proposed. we're going to choose the top 250 drugs to target. >> that seems to me to be unbelievably sort of single handed and autocratic and not workable because the government should not be in the position of picking and choosing. >> and there's fundamentally no difference between healthcare and an iphone, or a hamburger for that matter. it is simply the presence of government whether it be in healthcare, whether it be in education that's the reason the why all these services go up and up. david: hold on a second. there is a difference, jonathan, because hamburgers are not a matter of life and death. some of these prescription drugs are. >> food is not, david? david: hold on. the point is that if you are a cancer patient, you have to rely on a particular medication to stay alive.

i mean that's a life and death situation, whether you get a hamburger or not is not. >> what better mechanism to invent it. david: the point is, jonathan, the point that i would agree, hold on the point that i would agree with you on and i would like actually the doctor to chime in on this is the fact that president bush did open up a pandora's box and i agree with robert on this, the fact is that now since we have prescription d planned, it is a part of medicare, government has become the biggest buyer, so you can't avoid that, doctor, can you? you can't avoid unfortunately government getting in where i think the free market should be. >> well except the government with part d even david schweikert also often involved with private insurance as they go to negotiate those pries so it's not purely government. i have another idea to throw out here that just came to me. do you know what medicaid does? it has formularies in each statement i'm not against the government being in this game by saying okay, here is a drug we're going to favor. we know this works, doctors all agree this works.

this is a big player we're putting it on our formulary let everybody compete to get on the formulary and you know the prices are lower but the idea of a government setting prices is something that's going to end up restricting things. >> whenever you put a cap on prices you drive down supply. that is a given. and by the way -- david: hold on, hold on, go ahead liz. >> prescription drug prices are a small percentage of our overall healthcare costs. why aren't people talking about hospital costs and other things that drive up expenses too? if this is, i mean, look i think people are concerned about this, but this is just a way of getting attention and sort of driving the narrative that democrats think will favor democrats. and there is no concern on healthcare. >> we are using the word government too much. it's people that will be negotiating the prices, and people are flawed when it comes to prices, and if they undercut too much there goes research and development for these great companies that come out with new

wonder drugs, that saves people so you got to be very very careful about this. that's where i go back to let the market bear itself out but unfortunately this baby is out of the bag already. this is the way we're headed. >> that's the key and to add to liz's point do you know what hospitals are wisperring about all the time? medicare and medicaid pays them $0.85 on the dollar and they make it up on private insurance. the more we shrink the private insurance market the more we shrink private companies. david: what a great discussion. doctor thank you very much for being here. appreciate it very important stuff. 98% of votes have now been counted in israel but the struggle for power is far from over. the very latest from jerusalem on who will lead the nation going forward. what a time to be alive. the world is customized to you. built for you. so why isn't it all about you, when it comes to your money?

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chief declaring victory over benjamin netanyahu but it's still not clear who will be the next prime minister. fox news trey yingst has the details from jerusalem. reporter: after tight elections this week, israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu fell two feet short of the blue and white party. the two candidates met today for the first time in months at a ceremony marking the anniversary of former prime minister and president. and in between them was israeli president who will give one candidate the nod likely next week, to start building a government, until then both will continue meeting with smaller parties to ask for support. benjamin netanyahu is facing charges of corruption and bribery could face jail time if not re-elected prime minister and able to pass an immunity law the urgency was seen today as he called for a government with his main rival something he campaign ed against doingment

meanwhile, if the support of the former defense minister who will control eight israeli connected seats he will increase his chance to become prime minister. >> i want to set a broad and liberal unity government headed by me. a government that will manifest the will of the people and our promises to the public. reporter: prime minister has canceled his trip to the united nations next week as he continues to look for ways to out maneuver his opponent. back to you. david: thank you very much, tre y. president trump and bench have a very close relationship, they still do but moving forward we're going to be relying a lot on israel for big issues in dealing with iran, so will we have the same kind of partnership with the next prime minister even if he's not benjamin netanyahu? >> i think it's a certainty. president trump already came out and said we are in partnership with israel. that's just in case benjamin netanyahu does not win. look these two countries are

best of friends for darn good reason. israel is a miracle in the middle east. a great democracy. obviously we are the greatest democracy, and we know that we are hand in hand together on moving this world forward so i am not really worried at all. of course having somebody new we will have a different partnership but i'm not worried one bit. >> i'd agree with gary that the relationship is going to continue to be stellar and continue to be our most important allie in the middle east, although i think that you will see a lot more talk about a real two-state solution, as opposed to the idea that a two- state solution seems to be off the table with benjamin netanyahu so i think you'll see a little less hawkish tone coming out of israel. >> i think it's going to be very interesting if you get a shared government and there's a fair amount of talk, and it happened with the president with another fellow, and so benjamin netanyahu said no, no, that wasn't in the interest before when he thought he was going to

win but now that he's not won i think that's the way forward in which case, obviously, president trump is going to be able to work with both of them. >> i would like to say if it is those shared values that gary alluded to between the united states and israel, the democracy and capitalism that binds us but obama was so openly of israel for years and years that maybe these personalities are probably more important between president trump who i give great credit for reaching out and standing by israel and who ever is the next leader of israel, more than anything, the u.s. has to provide that moral support, financial is important but moral support that israel has to do anything and everything and it must do to protect itself in a very dangerous neck of the woods >> jonathan no question i would totally disagree with you on obama and israel considering he's the one that funded the iron dome when they were having to cut military spending here, and the budget, let me finish, they were coming here and the one thing they made sure they

didn't cut was the relationship with israel to make sure they gave over $1 billion to make sure israel was safe, without the iron dome we'd be talking about a different israel today. >> well, that was one of many instances of what i thought was real contempt for israel. i'm glad to see president trump has repaired that relationship and hope it strengthens from here. david: by the way the wall street journal is reporting it was a surge in the arab vote for all of the critics of israel, a lot of whom are in the united states who say there's no democracy in israel. the arab vote there was a 60% turn out as opposed to 49% back in the vote in april. they are the ones that made the real difference here, so there is indeed democracy, it'll be very interesting to see how the arabs what role they play in the new government as well. meanwhile, amazon ceo jeff bezos unveiling a new plan for his company to go green, so is the private sector better suited than government to help the environment? we'll be asking a former epa

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delivery vans and a pledge to power its global infrastructure by 100% renewable energy by 2030 it's going to be interesting to see whether that could be done the announcement coming one day before nearly 1,000 amazon employees are planning to walk off the job and protest of the company's inaction on climate change. here now is former epa official, mangy. good to see you, thank you for being here. appreciate it. so, is it better for private business to take this on instead of relying on government regulation? >> certainly the private sector has been producing innovations very successfully for a long time, and at the end of the day when it comes to environmental issues there's a delicate balance between the federal government setting forth expectations but doing so with a close relationship and a good understanding of how the companies and the industries that impact actually work, and that's where the role of ceos making these types of decisions

oftentimes, they are much better suited to make those decisions to ensure that they don't undermine their business, or undermine the services that they bring to their consumers. >> it's jonathan hoenig, thank you for being with us. you can argue about whether this is a good bottom lynn move for amazon but it is a voluntary move. it's going back to the chevy volt, that car is discontinued but in fact amazon is not only investing in hundreds and hundreds of new delivery vehicles, they've invested in a company that's creating those vehicles, to david's point isn't essentially the private sector the best mechanism, the only mechanism that can actually address these emissions problems >> yeah, i think the private sector is the best at producing the most efficient solutions to reducing emissions. we've seen this play out in a number of applications already. one of them is advances in the hydraulic fracturing business, because of those advancements, you seen explosives growth of the natural gas industry which

is the real reason that the united states leads the world in emission reduction and that wasn't the product of regulatory requirements coming down from the federal government. it was a combination of a market that encourages innovation and a buyer of companies to produce that in a meaningful way. >> gary kaltbaum here. under obama, the epa was supposedly the greatest organization on earth. now under trump, they are the worst because every time they get rid of a regulation all of a sudden they are the great polluters. how does like the epa handle the marketing of something like that , because every time i see a regulation go by the wayside, it does usually say obama-era regulation, and i think they are maybe just doing their job. >> well the problem with the obama-era epa regulations is that a lot of them were unjustified and they have this mentality of regulating for the sake of regulating whereas under the trump adminitration the president has directed the

agency to look at these regulations and figure out what is working in terms of producing the type of environmental protection expected and so in pairing back regulations he's been maintaining important protections but he's been saving money that businesses under obama were sending to washington bureaucracy but now they are investing in their companies to grow their companies, higher new employees, or invest in the latest and greatest technologies , that will get us to the innovative future we'd like to see and the energy space >> so it seems like you are supportive that amazon is entering in their own way the paris climate accord. do you think the u.s. should have removed themselves from the climate accord? >> absolutely. the united states or one of the best decisions that the president made early on he's committed to it on the campaign tall and followed through early on into his presidency was getting the united states out of the paris climate accord. a lot of the problems was that

it required these top down expansive federal control that would have undermined unleashing the markets in the way that is produced economic growth we've seen today. >> it's just a guideline, right >> well it was more than a guideline. >> was it a regulation? >> it was a commitment though that the united states made. >> yes it was a commitment that the united states was making that would have tied our hands in terms of regulatory expectations that came with high costs, it would have undercut competition and sent american jobs overseas to countries like china that are really the problem. david: i want to switch gears because president trump calling san francisco's homeless problem an environmental violation that requires a cleanup by the epa. he says the pollution from homeless who are living on the street there in san francisco including used needles and human waste are a threat to public health and safety. what do you make of this? >> you know, this is 100% within the president's perview

to step in. the federal government has broad sweeping oversight authority that when local officials are not keeping the environment clean, or protecting the public health of their citizens, the federal government can step in, and so the president was putting the state of california on notice that if they don't clean it up and start taking care of the homeless situation, that is also lending itself to a public health crisis, where you have the return of once eradicated diseases, if they don't fix the problem, he will use the resources the federal government to help these people and fix the problem for them. >> and i think frankly, it's scoring political points and good for president trump, because this is an outrage. california has 12% of the nations population, 50% of the homelessness and they are doing absolutely zero to help it. now you have someone like bernie sanders coming out with a housing plan. i don't know if you had a chance to look at that housing plan but basically it wants the government to provide housing for all and i mean it's sort of like the medicare for all and

sort of the government now will take this over. what we've seen in california is theres nothing worse than the government being responsible. >> yeah, liz, you say they're doing nothing in california to help the problem but they are the ones creating the problem. >> i totally agree. if you looked at it every economist on earth agrees that what bernie sanders is now proposing rent controls absolutely drives down the stock of housing and will make this problem worse, so i say good for president trump for calling this out. something needs to be done, and it needs to be done in california. >> yeah, absolutely california is good at lecturing the rest of the world who we should live our lives instead of fixing the problems in their own backyard and that's what the president is calling them out on. >> so you support the president now getting involved with state solutions? because i think he campaigned that the state should take care of themselves. it's amazing how we are so different tonight. and by the way, i'll tell you

about the epa, is your background in science, i'm just curious. >> my background, i'm an attorney by trade and have done policy work. >> got edavid: go ahead jonathan. >> but to your point -- david: we should regard state rights as more important than federal rights. >> we should go around all for that because you just more or less all agreed with them. >> no, no, robert the president should point this out it's those policies, the environmental policies -- >> he's more than pointing it out, jonathan come on. >> i'm trying to agree with you robert but you just keep on talking. david: mandy thank you very much for being here. >> thank you for having me. david: so escalating tensions with iran really lead to all-out war like the country's warning the house armed services committee just got a briefing from the department of defense. congressman mike rogers is there and he joins us next. all money managers might seem the same,

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iran is now threatening all out war if the u.s. decides to attack. members of the house armed services committee just wrapping up a briefing with the department of defense, alabama congressman mike rogers was there, and he joins us now. congressman good to see you. i know it was a closed door meeting can you give us a general sense of what happened there though? >> yeah, we had a lot of questions obviously and we're not paying attention to iranian remarks like that. they are trying to disturb the oil markets to try to upset the price of oil to get some relief in the sanctions, so your viewer s need to know that's what that's all about when they make those kind of declarations. it was we wanted to get a handle on what the intelligence community knows, what the department of defense could tell us about options they were looking at and we got a pretty good feel about where we are, and we're close to going to war. i do want your viewers to know

that. >> congressman did you just say we're close? david: no, we're not close. >> little different there. here is my question so you have the iran and they did this, they poked the bear, and they have got a response of sanctions but that's all right now. they know if they go too far, that there is a lot of trouble that lies in front of them. what is too far? do you have a thought process behind that? >> well, as we were informed that not only do we have a litany of responses that we can make that go from kinetic action back through just the cyber action, a whole laundry list of things we can do short of an attack on their homeland so that's way i say we're nowhere close to going to war but the same thing for them. they were emphasizing to us, they have a lot of steps that they can take short of another

attack, to try to disturb the price of oil and shake the allies to continue the maximum pressure sanction, which are having a very real effect on their economy and putting pressure on their leaders. >> congressman, would you expect that everyone who was in that meeting today came away fret it convinced that iran was the originator of these attacks and secondly what do you make of the fact that france and other allies refused to admit that? >> well, the answer to your first question is yes. the answer to your second question is they are currently going through the process of gathering the debris and doing assessments that we hope within the next seven to 10 days to be able to give absolute certainty to both saudi arabia and to our allies, proveable certainty that who the culprit was in taking this action. >> congressman, you had before

the summer near 100 generals it was over 50 but near 100 ex- generals saying that the u.s. should reenter the jcpoa, the iran nuclear deal, along with our all allies and many predicted this would happen that iran would jackup the hostility. what do you say to those general s who seem to be incredibly knowledgeable about that kind of predict edness? do you think it's something we should reenter now? >> no. the generals are just like the political figures on capitol hill. there's a lot of different opinions about the situation. as long as we can't go in and inspect to make sure they are complying with the terms, we should not be in that deal, to allow iran to do their own inspection is ridiculous. i think the president did exactly the right thing and we don't need to be in any kind of deal we can't verify. >> but an independent commission actually verified it. >> no, no, they cannot go in and inspect.

only the iranians can. david: jonathan? >> congressman thank you for being with us. listen we've been seemingly increasing sanctions in iran basically since 1979 as gary pointed out they are poking us they shot down a donald this attack on saudi arabia hyponet icily speaking, sir what would it take for you to support a preemptive strike on iran? would it be an attack on american forces specifically, or could an attack on i guess you could putted saudis as allies would that be enough for you to potentially favor a military strike? >> well first let me address your opening statement. if we had not given iran relief when the jcpoa was signed they would have already been crippled we let them up for air. we let them enter into contracts , we gave them their money back and that gave them a new life. with regard to your second question, obviously, if they kill american soldiers, that

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last night. hillary vaughn is live on capitol hill with the latest. hillary? reporter: david facebook ceo mark zuckerberg made a point to single out his skeptics on capitol hill today and put in some face time with them. some of his biggest critics on capitol hill but zuckerberg did not take any questions from the press while he was here. he did take questions though behind closed doors from lawmakers who drilled into the ceo over privacy concerns, anti-trust issues and also potential conservative bias on the platform, zuckerberg bounced from office to office, in the capitol starting the date with senator mike lee and then stopped by senator josh holly's office who told the ceo to this face that to prove his platform isn't rigged against conservatives. he needs to open it up to a third party audit and also prove he's not anti-competitive, he needs to sell-off some of his most popular apps. >> the way that he can show he's trying to do better is to sell instagram and what's app and submit to an independent third party audit.

i think he was a little taken off guard and i think that he thought that was not a great idea. >> last night zuckerberg met for hours at the dinner with democrats in the senate including senator mark warner who has been very outspoken about his opinion saying big tech particularly facebook needs to be broken up because it's too big, but when asked if zuckerberg was able to convince him, that a breakup would be a bad idea over dinner he says he still has a long way to go. >> well, we had a very serious and positive discussion, even where we differ, and i really welcome the opportunity to sit down with him and try to reach some common ground. >> so while facebook tries to scramble to convince congress they are not too big, they are also trying to warm them up up to their latest venture, their cryptocurrency libra, which is a lot of people on capitol hill not sold on that idea. david? david: hillary thank you very much. so is it at all unseemly that

lawmakers are wining and dining zuckerberg just as they are about to legislate new rules for social media? gary what do you think? >> well first off disclaimer because i don't want jonathan mad at me. david: oh, go ahead. >> i don't like regulations. i think onerous regulations are not good for the economy or corporate america, but i don't want banks writing banking regulations. i don't want zuckerberg writing his own regulations come from government. this should be two sides to this , so i do not like the win ing and dining and the hiring of 300 lobbyists to go wine and dine politicians. >> but what is he supposed to do, gary? they are coming after him. i mean, egged on by the public, left and right, these politicians they smell an opportunity to strike here. they are coming after him. look at these who is this congressman holly, threatening oh, we're going to break them but completely inappropriate and what's so frustrating is that the regulations that zuckerberg

ultimately will advocate for hurt competition. they are a barrier-to-entry, and they are bad for the marketplace at large but blame government. they should have no role in regulating facebook. get the heck out this is not your job as elected officials. >> although jonathan you'd have to say that facebook has broken faith with government. they actually had various consent decrees at the fcc and other kinds of agreements in the past which they just moved forward and trampled on and they have acted in bad faith and look the public is demanding some confrontation between government and big caltech because they have gotten too big, too powerful. i think all of this is a waste of time because ultimately, what government needs to do is simply block future mergers or acquisitions of the kind that allowed them to buy what's app. >> you're supposed to be the conservative defender of capital ism, right, liz? >> i am but anti-trust is anti-trust jonathan and the

truth is they bought instagram to put out of business a threatening rival. i don't approve of all and i don't think they should be allowed to do that. david: by the way a guy whose violated agreements do you really want him to work with regulators to create regulations i'm not sure we do. anyway we've got breaking news we have to turn to. the president just tweeting this on our top story today. drug prices "because of my administration, drug prices are down for the first time in almost 50 years, but the american people need congress to help. i like senator grassley's drug pricing bill very much, and it's great to see speaker pelosi's bill today, let's get it done in a bipartisan way. liz what do you make of this? >> well i think that the president is aware that this is a very very big topic in 2020s election and the democrats are out there now with pelosi's bill , but there is a bill in the senate and do you know what he's right. i think the american people would be cheered to think amazingly enough that right and

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david: look out joe biden, editor and founder of the drudg. report seasoning out a rare tweet declaring 2020 presidential nomination is elizabeth warren's to lose. this is the latest fox news poll showing joe biden had a new low in the democrat primary race, so robert you have advised and contributed to several of the 2020 candidates what do you make of this? >> well i just tweeted out not

even knowing this is my thing. the idea in the last 24 hours, you had matt drudge and president trump all say that joe biden's in trouble, after the fox poll has him up 14% on president trump, i actually don't think that the biden camp is too wide. that being said incredible electricity in the warren campaign right now. there's no question there's momentum. she is leading that liberal lane with respect to her and bernie sanders and the vice president is leading the moderate lane and both around 30% it feels like. >> yeah, but she has made steady gains, not just in the polling but also in terms of her unfavorables going down, favorables going up, the opposite is true of joe biden. i think there's no question elizabeth warren is going to be the candidate. david: wow. >> there is an industry right now in underrating joe biden. i am sorry because let me tell you what's going to happen sooner rather than later. somebody will get out an abacus

and try to add up 1 plus 1 when it comes to elizabeth warren and her numbers she refused to put out on all of the 45 plans on her little website, right there? i'm sorry when all is said and done this country is still in the middle even on the left side , there's many in the middle >> it's the primary voters gary >> as we move forward you'll see it's still more into the middle. i don't think she has a chance to win that side. >> gary i would like to think so but the left is more left than even you'd think and you know elizabeth warren despite the fact how really left she is, socialistic or not she has seemingly the moral high ground in the democrats right now. she is leading the charts. i think it's kind of sad considering her politics and even more sad that she and other s like her stand in front of children in front of young people teaching them, but she's certainly got the momentum and she seems to be building on it, whereas the when talked about this, the safe bets like biden, people don't want safe.

david: just suppose for a second that elizabeth warren is the nominee. she has as jonathan said gone so far to the left on things like socialized m.d. esin, restructuring corporations, the wealth tax, how does she make a right hand turn, a hard right hand turn after the nomination? >> listen on some of the thing, whether its gun reform or immigration or corporate restructuring where she's on the far left actually those would bode well in the general election. i think where she will have to pivot and move more to the center is on medicare for all. i think she's going to have to make sure that they include the ability for employers david: she's also come out for the green new deal. >> i think there's a whole debate on climate change. it's clear to me this country is supportive of climate change. as you know i'm not for the green new deal. i'm for a green new deal. >> there's every industry she's talked about either taking over, breaking up, or shutting down. i am sorry, that is not going to

work in the real-world as we move forward, and i don't believe anybody would believe her pivot anyhow. >> i should just say for this group, gary given to 12 candidates i've not given to elizabeth warren or bernie sanders. >> interesting. >> who would you rather have a beer with are you really wanting a beer with elizabeth warren? i don't. david: let's leave it there. by the way she had that famous tweet where she was drinking a beer. well a new feature from amazon could make it easier to donate to your favorite candidate. now what could possibly go wrong with that?

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any participating presidential candidate. what could go wrong here? >> a year ago, i got one in my closet, underneath suitcase and a bunch of quotes. imagine donating to trump and you hear this -- you're the corbel. no. it does not work for me. i can't believe anybody would do it. >> you've got to give technology shot out. >> no. people who are older, disabled, maybe don't have mobility this is an amazing advancement. maybe you start with ordering a pizza before you get into that. >> you can do that but they probably would get that wrong, too. the bigger issue would be being hacked or having contributions

going to the wrong person. >> i like it for me but i think it's a brilliant idea for the company because there's hundreds of billions of democrat and republican donations. >> that's it, thank you for watching us. see you next time. >> iran's supreme leader approved the strike on saudi oil production. the president still weigh options. stock market not reacting to that. this is new fox full revealing new insights on what may