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united states, is using power of his office to solicit interference from a foreign country in the 2020 u.s. elect, you would agree that should be investigated. >> chairman, the horse has left the barn. you have all of the information. you have the whistle-blower complaint, the letter from the icig, office was defense legal council opinion -- >> we do but would you agree -- >> investigation. >> you agree? >> i believe that it is a matter to be drne become determined bye determined by the chair and this committee. kennedy: take that adam. nunez says this is a bunch of bologna. >> i want to congratulate the dhedemocrat on roll out of latet information warfare operation again the president and their extraordinary ability to once against enlist mainstream media

in their campaign. kennedy: you mispronounced it, it is lame stream media. and president trump is mad as heck about it. >> it is adam schiff and his crew, making up stories, but adam schiff does not talk about joe biden and his son walking away with millions of dollars from ukraine, and millions from china. he does not talk about joe biden. firing a prosecutor and that prosecutor is not fired he is not giving him money from united states of america. kennedy: the "new york times" today reporting that whistleblower is sausage fest, a male cia, yeah. >> his id still unknown. but, "l.a. times" got a audio from a private event, trump told the crowd what he really thinks of that whistleblower. >> who is the person that gave

the whistleblower that information. is that close to a spy. you know what we used to do in old days, when we were smart with -- spies, we handled things differently than we do now. kennedy: well the whole story is more than just concern about a phone call now, now there are also accusations of a cover-up, so are walls closing in on our dear leader or are the democrats those getting backed into a corner and learned? with me tonight, associate editor, ab toedard -- stodard, what is most childre important o come out of the hearing with maguire. >> that did not go any places, saying that whistle-blower acted in good paying, and intelligence community ig, deemed the

complaints urgent and credible, he never would agree with chairman schiff that anything deserves to be investigated. he was cautious, very good at filibustering, he is a good man who served this country, he intended to not get in middle of anything and try to remain acting dni, and hopefully become confirmed dni . kennedy: after his appearance today, because there has been so much on the hill that has been a crap show of congress and administration that is one of few people, he did not get hysterical he held his ground well, if i were president i would be pleased. >> i fell for him, he took this job, and within a few days it blew up in his face. i don't think he quite new what togo in terms of the statute that would require he would trans end it immediate lee to io

congress. kennedy: that is -- will congress is so incredibly politicized. such a political body. >> the entire body was covered by the fact that declassified complaint came out beforehand. this about a process that is out of date. >> here is -- is -- what i will. we're focused on process, we're being disdirected and focusing on the wrong thing. what is the outrage here? and what is the genesis of that outrage? and what of that is, -- whatever that is, is that illegal? i don't think that either side has her defended it or made a solid case. >> democrat think this is an abuse of power to invite a foreign country to likely extort hold back military aid from ukraine asking for help. kennedy: did the 4 senators do the same thing with ukraine.

>> not the same thing. but -- >> kennedy: how is it different? >> they remember trying to ascertain what the ukrainian government's role was in the mueller probe, and then being swept up in the investigation. kennedy: then they threatened to withhold military aid. >> you know, what they are an oversight of the executive branch, they were asking about what they -- these people were being asked by the special counsel. and whether or not they were being intimidated, that different from a president saying you need to help me out. so this is -- the moment important thing out of today, that republicans think this is awful. they are not going to say that they will buy time, saying they want to know you know what is true. they want this to be investigated. kennedy: fair. >> that is fair. the -- the complaint on its face was alarming to people because

it contained information as senator ron johnson pointed out about people covering up for trump aether reckless or illegal or dangerous conduct in the communication, that have now been put in a special place, hidden -- >> has no other administration done with that material what this administration has. >> these are national -- this is a -- again, i don't do like super tech folders in the situation room. but i understand it, these -- this kind of code only locked up system, is for national security, for covert operations and secret stuff, they are putting nonnational security but politically sensitive com communication. kennedy: what about sensitive stuff that gets leaked to media that white house -- >> all i know senator ron johnson, is very concerned. what we see is republican panic

in private. and desire for this to be investigated. there is a bipartisan investigation on senate side, and more of a patterson investigation on house -- partisan investigation on house side, i don't think we know where this is going we can count on we'll know more in next 10 days, how impeachment will go is nobody's guess, democrats are trying to cobble this together quickly, i think they will change their minds a million time, they are not unified or organized. but what likely to happen once the whistleblower meets with these people, is details, about all people who helped him in white house will come out. kennedy: if they put country through holy hell they better be damn sure they got the goods and i don't think they know right now. there are so many variables that are outstanding and pretend they are completely known that is so dangerous. we have been there. it was a failure, it is a bad

idea. i understand -- >> this is why the speaker has resisted it, but -- i don't think they know where it will go, i know that republicans are afraid of where it will go. kennedy: we should all be scared, get rid of two party system, thank you, ab. >> thank you. kennedy: alleluia. republicans and democrats have different opinions on how damaging this complaints is for the white house. according to south carolina republican senator lindsey graham, it was all bark and no bite, linds? >> it was a nothing burger for me, phone call with president and ukrainian president, as to allegations. clear to me that it is a narrative being created from secondhand sources. kennedy: whatever he said nothing burger, i want 5 guys then a hamburger. connecticut democrat senator bloomenthal said that lindsey graham is wrong. >> donald trump is going to choke on this is u supposed notg burger, he will go down with

this supposed nothing burger in his throat. it shows repeated, concerned, premeditated criminal conduct. kennedy: yep, nothing burgers all around, today president trump said the whole barbecue will blow up in the democrat's face, his campaign said it will lead to president's easy land slide reelection. but could that over confidence come back to haunt them? joining me tonight, for trump 2020 mark laus marc lotter is b. >> great to be mack. kennedy: i think that democrats and republicans whether nancy pelosi or president trump they need to be careful about being overly confident. and a b is right about that, we don't know where it lands, it is not necessarily a lay up for the president, what i want to know is why haven't we learned lessons from 2016? why are we going to a place like

ukraine? either we should not be doing it, or since there has been no accountability, from 2016, i think that blipy people include -- plenty of people including president assume it is not illegal. >> i think two things are important, one, ukraine meddled in our 2016 election. no question, it is appropriate for president when he discusses with a newly elected president who ran on an anticorruption platform to make sure they are going to follow through and stop the kind of corruption that we saw that included meddling, against president trump's campaign, in 2016. and when it comes to joe biden. let's take out the current candidacy. kennedy: you are conflating some weird deal between hunter biden and a state sponsored energy company and election meddling. >> actually i'm not. kennedy: let's not pretend they are the same. >> no. kennedy: the president talking about getting information on joe

biden, you said that president making sure no one meddles in 2020 elect. >> these are two separate things there is documented and reported by politico in 2017 in january, that detailed how ukrainian ghfs meeting with the officials at -- all more reason to -- against trump campaign. kennedy: to not ask ukraine for opposition research. and it does look like an op-ed research fishing expedition with jeweguliani from madrid to warsw getting in. information, we have a government so big it is crippling with so many levels -- and envoys in between, why is a private attorney running around dealing with foreign governments in areas that could harnl his hs boss. >> as far as i'm aware he is acting in his personal capacity

as president's personal lawyer, guliani has a history of exposing government corruption and those issues. kennedy: he should write an op-ed in "wall street journal," he does not need to meet in secret with senior officials from ukraine and madrid and warsaw that is a bad look. >> let's remember too, this is not opposition research, this is potential, potentially inappropriate activities by a sitting vice president of the united states while he was in office. kennedy: who happens to be running for president who happens to be 41 runner most -- front runner in most polls. >> maybe not any more, if they took place while he was vice president of united states, we owe it to american people t to inform them. kennedy: a find argument to make in 2016, very odd to make it naive followingly 99 argument --

falsely innocent argument on cusp of ful full-fledged americn president campaign. >> th the american people need o know it. and really we have here at end of this week, we have democrats in many in lame stream media that have so much egg on their face, they said so many thinks about what it would be, none of those transcripts came up, we should give nancy pelosi toast to go with the egg. kennedy: she could start an omelet. marc lotter thank you. >> thank you. kennedy: has all this hyper partisanship made it awkward at your job? do you or your coworkers argue about politics? we do here all of the time. wait until you hear what businesses are doing to try to

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kennedy: partisan food fight in washington, d.c. is making a huge mess in workplaces, so says president of society forever foe

resource management. what the hell is that? someone gets paid for that job. the division we have in workplace has been multiplied. we have to manage that political division at work, in past hr would never do that, we would just say, don't talk about that at work. they are talking about it. who isn't talking about it? we have to figure it out. wow, a real go getter that one. should we just work from home during the 2020 election. with me party panel. brad columbo. and antoine see bright he is never wrong, and kat timpf. back in the house. welcome to you. >> hey. kennedy: everyone here at work talks about politics all day long, we have to, we still fight

about it. i call my senior producer joe scarborough sometimes, it makes him mad. >> the society for human resources management that must be a fun place to work. you know. >> you think they are just trying to get fired. >> i would not last long. they would say, you have to go, you have been here 20 minutes. kennedy: do you think ber bernie sanders supporters walk around and take stuff off people's desk. >> so hard to listen to other opinions, they are not my opinion they are other opinions, how about we live in a country, where you can speak your mind, not get your head chopped off, that does not exist everywhere, we should be grateful for this 4678 people who are 4 years old they learn, in preschool how to have you know hear, opposing views and disagree, not saying that 4-year-old stick the landing on that. their execution is not always

perfect but they know. kennedy: they are learning. >> they are trying, i don't think a lot of grown ups try. kennedy: where do we develop this idea, our opinions have to be taken at sacrosanct, and everyone with a different opinion it bad. >> a lai lady said to me on a pe last week, we come to society, we whisper about things we should yell about and yell about things that we should whisper about. people like kat on social media, they hide -- >> my face is next to my social media, you talk about people -- >> i'm joking. i'm making a points, i could social media has empowered people who otherwise would not have a slows, they feel they can -- voice they tile the feel theo that. kennedy: but actual humans in a same space. we can't talk to each other now we assume we're -- we should

craft our -- >> i have the most unusual interacttion in airports. the keyboard thugs, that send me e-mails when i get off show how much they hate me, in the airport it is 10 times louder. >> this is why they are right, impeachment would cause people to jump at each other's throat. kennedy: you think. >> it is the reality, this is one argument against impeachment. it would literally tear the country -- >> i was thinking about that. you can take this what would impeachment do to an already fractured and hyper politicized country? do you really think it would heal it? >> it would not but it would highlight the fact that we have to get back to the basics. >> you mean elected hillary clinton? >> no, no. kennedy: she is running by the way. >> she is not running. kennedy: running. not today sunday. >> fly down from rafters with

those fringe things like uncle jesse. kennedy: in a bat suit. >> this shows you what impeachment would do, squabbling like this. >> get back to really call out bad things and punish people. kennedy: here is the thing. >> without it being offended. kennedy: your version of bad things is different from my version of bad things, my version means i am unoffend 4-7bunoffendable.it is very difd me. >> can i give you an example of a bad thing. kennedy: no, kat . >> she is a bad thing. we should grow up. okay, we should be a to disagree and not say, you have a different opinion, but you are still a human, have you a different opinion, you are destroying the country, you are the enemy, what did everyone become a toddler. >> i don't know. kennedy: i really like the idea

of finding someone in common, with everyone you might, we all -- it does not matter who you are, having kids taught me, that they made me realize, everyone raises their kids, say worry about how they get baby to sleep and worry about lessons they are or not teaching their kid and poe pay theos who does not like -- potatoes, everyone likes them. >> high is not. kennedy: panel will return. >> we'll be back. >> tall. >> with no tot. >> getting heat over quid pro quo, is that just the way the world works is it naive to think otherwise, my memo and reaction from bryan suits next. i saved hundreds when i switched my car insurance to geico. this is how it made me feel. it was like that feeling when you pull your green sock out of the dryer

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impeachmentable baboon or a garden variety negotiator who chom it committs the same sins s every wor other president but oy with a bigger target on his ba back. -- all suits in room felt it was right thing to do, moral outweighed ethical uncertainty. and oliver north charmed panties of the swooning housewives with his baby blue eyes. every new president slips into man jambas and plays cato kalin. the iranians enjoyed 400 million in party cash and prizes for releasing american prisoners, again because maybe that was only way to make a deal, a

dubious british spy paid millions by dna, law firm and the fb, frickin'i. the rational it may not be right but it wrong not to stop them. point is, all weird and gross, and more common than we would like to admit. but if we know -- if what we know about the story so far is true, it is all impeachable. if it is all impeachable than nothing is, that is the memo. is the president's this for that negotiating just the way the world works? joining me combat iraq veteran bryan suits welcome back. >> thank you. kennedy: mm-hmm. what do you think about this? so far, what you know, what you read, i know you read everything.

is this impeachmentable? >> um-- there you know in a circle you know the house democrats are their own echo chamber, they are positive, that them we go the him. but you know i know and anyone who can read the constitution or poll, we know that u.s. senate comes back, they are not convicting him. but then they have to look at their constituents say we tried, and the whole thing, it is a kabuki. you know, i think there will be a vote. you know they doing a whip count, there will be a vote and they will back slap each other. >> and what is going on in ukraine in. >> okay. here is the deal, do governments make drug deals all of the time? memittmetaphor call?

you bet they do, but this is a personal gain, and zelensky does not want to bite this american hand. giving hip most direct aid in terms of weapon systems that actually kill russians like the javelin missile. zelensky woke up and found himself president of the ukraine. kennedy: he talked about that and he talked about going to mercmerkel and macron getting nothing from them. >> yeah united states stepped up we have troops on the ground training them, but that is -- big difference -- i run everything through their test, if obama had the appearance of withholding foreign aid to a beseeme seemed country in about -- besieged country if return for dirt on mitt romney, i would have pop a vein like a dry twig. we would have gone insane. kennedy: i agree with you.

but i feel like that administration sort of sheparded the whole christopher steel thing, the same thing is not worse? >> yeah, i agree. yeah. also the obama administration taken seriously interference from gru hackers and all this. it would have been a far, far different world in 2016 and 17 but they didn't. just like obama did not take putin seriously for 8 years, they -- i agree with christopher steel thing that was you know, a fairly easily traceable. kennedy: two things that bother me, why has know this administration learned lessons that you can't do that, you can't go there. yet, at same time we're locked up in this stuff. and if hillary clinton were sending sydney bluman thole thoo

meet with you know, ukrainian ooopposition in madrid and wars, i would have blown a gasket it not okay for the president, i don't care who tries to rationalize it. >> no, you are right. and really hard trying to talk to you know somewhat aboutists today, because this really is almost new, territory, i put it downtown don reall -- donald try truly hit the ground running and did not understand a lot about office he had just been elected to, i think in his mind, what is transacactional in his mind why don't you do this. you just don't go to foreign country --

>> hunter biden. we don't need ukrainian dirt ball -- >> that is a stupid -- that is the goal on this,. kennedy: a soccer melt metaphor. >> he failed so many wiz quizes in the navy. >> because of the cocaine. >> you don't -- why do you need zelensky for this, you know? kennedy: you don't, i niederaur, i'm never talking to him again, bryan suits thank you. >> alreadyy. >> okay, bye. for years legal marijuana businesses have not had access to liit legitimate banks, will y fix it, the party panel returns next. ♪ (nationwide jingle) (alexa) added "ukulele" to band shopping list. perfect. peyton, what are you doing? nationwide's teamed up with amazon to bring you the all-new echo auto.

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kennedy: don't. may be's pot dispensaries could roll in a new green, house of representative last night, they are doing something, this is them chewing gum, passing a bill that allows them to work with banks of marijuana legal businesses, to take out loans and accept credit cards, next up. u.s. senate, but majority leader cocaine mitch, he likes cocaine, he doesn't like marijuana. had been relicleonid reluctant p pot bills in the past? will he take up the pot growers or will they be dashed. grad, dumb the dispensaries have to put their employees at great risk by working in carbonly. >> can we -- cash, only. >> lawmakers in washington did something good, they actually got out of the way of american businesses for once.

kennedy: yes. >> a rare moment, this is a good thing, there is no reason we should tie up the businesses in red tape or legal jeopardy for what is legal in there are state. kennedy: 90 plus republican representative vote. >> i am so glad that democratic house of representatives is being praised by the republica republicans. not anchors down and tying up businesses. kennedy: like uber and lyft, trying to run those to the ground. >> this is an exception. >> can i enjoy my thursday night moment. kennedy: inhale. >> they are rare. >> also. i justin hailed some weed by the way. also, good to know something is getting done in washington dc, in a bipartisan way. kennedy: great, this and criminal justice reform could be best thing out of washington in years. >> if senate -- >> that is the thing,. kennedy: true. >> senate has to push this, it

should be legalize totally, i don't understand getting to a position where you a member of congress and you have this kind of influence is change lives, you say i have to keep those people away from that plant, and having that be your focus, that like the devil devil's lettuce. kennedy: 33 states have legal, medicinal or recreational one dis. >> and for little black byes like an antjuan we get locked up for that. kennedy: you can thank alexandria ocasio-cortez for that. >> we have to reschedule cannabis it is ridiculous. that you can't research it you can't figure out proper uses and

benefits. >> look how quick we acted on juul and vaping. >> that is bad. kennedy: the story is so bad and wrong. >> i'm saying, we expect and choose. kennedy: what are we doing to go with kat. >> i'm going to die, either have to die or move to new jersey, thanks cuomo, now you have to live in new jersey. kennedy: awful, another thing that economy awful, joker, may be most controversial film of the year this week family was victims of the 2012 aurora, colorado movie theater mass shooting published an open litter to warner brothers, expressing their concern about violence in the movie. and ask company to fund survivor programs and support gun reform, studio responded saying that movie is quote, not an endorsement of real world violent, according to a new republic u.s. army issued a warning about possibility of

crazed extremists carrying out mass shootings at upcoming screenings of joker, director todd phillips slugge shrugged of controversy saying that out i oe is a commodity. and joaquin phoenix has faith in his viewers. kennedy: if. >> if you let angry woke people who have concerns. the threat should be taken seriously. but idea that creating a film is an endorsement is ridiculous and could shut down hollywood as we know it. kennedy: and free speech. >> absolutely. >> we do have to be sensitive, the republican argument a few weeks ago with discussing -- video games somehow transfer -- >> always wrong. kennedy: some republicans.

>> but those of us free speech advocates. >> from the president. >> he was wrong. >> many senate republican leadership trying to justify. so, i think we have to just be consistent. but i think there -- we're on a slippery slope. >> i don't disagree. kennedy: you have to realize your artistic vision in u.s. of america i am sorry. >> i just think we have to be sensitive think holistic. that -- >> thinking holistically is what puts you on path to curtailing free speech. >> landmark theater said people cannot dress up any more and go to movies, that is mean, i'm going to try to explain it in a sensitive way, grown men who go to the theaters dressed as a superhero or a super villain, they are doing that you know not because they do have a ton of other stuff going on. they are losers, is what i'm trying to say, not knocking

them, i am one, just in a different way. but you know, they don't have a lot of other stuff to take that away from them this is sick, that is -- they get jazzed and dressed up. kennedy: same with everyone that likes superhero movies or super villain. >> you look at open le letter to warner brother says stop donating money. >> you cannot have it both ways. kennedy: we're not. >> i'm having to. >> i don't think anyone here is having it both ways. >> i'm -- >> i know you to -- you want to ignite your straw man. >> you have the whole scarecrow here. >> i'm saying, when people say, video games and et cetera, the reasons -- >> i'm not. kennedy: no one said that trump said that. >> and he was wrong. >> no. >> this is what we're dealing

with. >> this is my duty, ha alleluia, thank you to the panel. >> kennedy thank you. kennedy: antjuan. what a great night. [ laughter ] kat -- >> kennedy, kennedy! kennedy ♪ >> woo! a nice cool mixer at the end of the show. or the next 30 seconds. antwon and brad you are amazing. >> coming up. 2407 topical storm. imagine a world where

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oh, no. he ran on the i17 during rush hour there are too many lights on jefferson street, tr police t it down, because it was not a cat. in which case they would have raised speed limit, because cats are a dime dozen. -- good news, dashing doggy did not get hit, bad news, jay walking is a crime in miracopa county, he got sent to a tent prison and caught making a deal under the tape take -- table. woops never mind, that is hunter biden, wrong script. the dog was returned, never buy your dog a fitbit. >> the day is thifer thirsty th,

find folks in wisconsin drinking until the cows come home. they make the freshest white russians, 16 dairy cows showed up the bar at 3:00 p.m. to get coralled by police, the officer is being praised as a hero, but she not first guy to take a heifer home from the bar at 3 in the morning. you know, neither is my producer paul. but brewery had to open later than usual today, but they are now serving killer steak tacos. goes with brew. they really are to die for. all right, i'll stop. the dead cow joke. on any other night we would milk them for all they are worth. tonight police not located owner

the dairy de11 quents, get your mouth trumpet ready, when they catch him, he will be charged with several moooving violations. ♪ , a florida woman has been arrested for throwing tomatoes at her elderly relatives, if guilty, she be throw put on the samantha b show. look at her. police say she flipped out when her grandma told her to stop eating tomatoes, she made a tossed sa add, salad, goingful animal house, start a food fight, calm down, baby girl, her grandfather called police after she pelted him with a pack of sicigarettes, shocking, becausef

how expensive they are, she was thrown in jail by florida police, on flus plus side she had so muc so much armstrong the dolphins just signed her to play quarterback. court date not set but our hero is out on bail, and landed a job at a dog walker. never hire a dog walker. they get paid in johnnie walker, that is the second memo, topic 4. we reached a point in week audience sing your praises for another job well done. nope. viewer mail. you don't actually believe the stuff you say, right? we're best friends, i am buying you .

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