today. the next couple of days are important. we have this service coming up, jobs friday. >> big jobs number this week. you want to keep an eye on it, the dow is down for 94 points today. that is oppressed. >> will see what happens tomorrow. bulls and bears starts right now. david: market meltdown, stocks plummeting for a second day of triple digit losses amid concerns over economic growth and gridlock in congress. the president blaming speaker pelosi. what he is calling impeachment nonsense for the market mayhem. listen. >> we have to go back to building our country because 99% of ninth see below z's time is spent on this. she should worry about lowering the price of drugs which i have done. but, it's hard to do it without the help of congress. she should worry about infrastructure, she should worry about the u.s. mca. she is not doing it. david: welcome. this is a "bulls & bears". we have a great show for you

today. i am david asman. joining me today, carol rauf, mr. lou dobbs, and gary and robert wolf and tremble. speaker of the house nancy pelosi telling reporters earlier today she is expecting to work with the president even during his impeachment inquiry. listen. >> i hope again that the president is saying that because of other actions in term of upholding the constitution of the united states that he is not, he can't work with us because i do think he wants this u.s. mexico, the canada trade agreement. we wanted to when it is right in terms of enforceability. i hope he doesn't mean he does not want to work together to lower the cost of prescription drugs. at the same time, we are hoping that we can return and renew our conversations about infrastructure, building infrastructure of america. david: so, mr. lou dobbs, can we actually expect any of these key issues that nancy pelosi was talking about to get past with

all the political rancor? >> no. the speaker is delusional to begin this adam schiff project they call an impeachment inquiry. the inquiry should be into the rationality of these leading dems on capitol hill. they won't work with the president to secure the border. they won't work with the president to create balanced trade across the world. they will not work with this president on any issue. and suddenly she is behind a lower drug prices which the president has been working and as he said in that cut, he has achieved considerable success in so doing. and for now she wants to be his body as she is watching and impeachment inquiry? if you needed any further testament to the dilution of the left or the radical dams, there is is who is spot on here. the congress has not done anything for years at all. so all of a sudden they haven't

done anything and now we have got this political theater and extras circus thrown in and other going to get to work? i think it is absolutely delusional to think they have not done anything and now with this extra layer on top that it is somehow going to make them more productive. >> i will try to be a little positive, will use the exact words as delusional, i think the chance of getting anything done is somewhere between slim and none. i was at washington, d.c. a couple weeks ago actually with a bipartisan form we are meeting with both sides of the aisle. it seemed at that point that the usmc it could get done, it felt like there was a few things on each side of the aisle that they both had issues with but they both wanted time. i was a for the most part that feels like it's off the table. infrastructure, no disrespect to speaker pelosi, the chance of any infrastructure getting done is zero and i would say that the polarization of washington is going to be worse than we have

seen, i don't want to say ever, but it feels like it is going their way. >> that was your version a more positive? >> i kept it between slim and none. >> robert, your first words are slim and none of that is the positive side, we are screwed my friends. let's start with usmc a. i believe it was signed at the g20 in november of last year. so, we are talking ten months of nothingness but a bunch of flapping of gums. infrastructure we have been hearing for three years, nothing but flapping of gum. now you have two parties and i and no doctor phil but you have two parties that hate each other and the rhetoric on a daily basis is getting worse. i don't know how you get these people in a room to discuss getting anything done and it is a shame because these are the people that we look to to run the country and move the country forward and it seems like there is only one agenda, it is going

to be impeachment until novembet here and watch this whole thing come down. >> yang, there is one party that is moving ahead, not because of particular cohesive or enlightened leadership in the republican party, on capitol hill but because of this president. this president has moved his agenda forward despite the democratic party and that of the republican party, the rhinos have not been particularly helpful to this president. now for his ingenuity in the in innovation and capacity for leadership, we would not see 27000 mexican troops on their northern border with the united states for the first time in forcing border security, that is better than a wall in my opinion. >> what are democrats going to be running on specifically? they don't have a lot to show for the past few years do they? >> there are over 200 bills that the democratic house have on the

republican senate platform. >> which one would you sell to the american public trying to get this through. >> i think you know brew personal background check is for like 90% of america not taking away guns just doing the right thing to make ourselves safer, i think if you had an up-and-down vote it would vote tomorrow. >> usmc a could go put that on the floor with an up-and-down vote. let's see what happens. >> we used to chat about when phil gramm work for me at ubs we used to say, let's have people do an up-and-down vote. let's see where they stand and do everything. >> right now we can get nothing done, just like lou dobbs may agree what's in the center, will disagree in each sides bookend. >> but this is the part that is so maddening, something like usmc a such a no-brainer and for the american people and the fact that they are unwilling to get it done in the name of political

theater should infuriate every single american who is out there. people in congress are supposed to be serving the interest of the people, not the interest of themselves in politics and people should be upset about this. >> not that i overrate anybody in washington, d.c., but we are now starting to see some issues with the economy and with the stock market, so, i'm not saying if they get anything done that's gonna really help big time but it's really not gonna hurt and i must tell you part of the economy and part of the stock market is watching all of this nonsense going on a daily basis and the intangible is confident in watching this stuff, it's becoming quite nauseating for even somebody with a strong stomach like i have at this point in time smack i will let them go but i want to talk about the markets. >> so, irrespective of all the nonsense going on in washington, it is right now not because of impeachment rhetoric why the market is down, the tariff and

trade situation are panicking, industrial companies, it's just a fact, if you look at what they said, 50% of manufacturers right now are the sales are down, one third said they were not going to go higher more because they are nervous. we saw the edp numbers today. we are in a situation where because of the prolonged to trade war that has gone on with china and now today and announced new tariff situation with europe, were in a situation as we go into the holiday season that this is costing consumers, it has cost them tens of billions of dollars in increased pricing, we need to figure out what we are going to do with our trade situation, we cannot be in a trade war, it is not doing well for the american economy. >> speaking of the market, here's how the president reacted during nancy pelosi is a news conference this morning when the markets were in free fall. he tweeted quote, all of this impeachment nonsense which is going nowhere is driving the

stock market and your 401k's down but that is exactly what the democrats want to do, they are willing to hurt the country with only the 2020 election in mind, so lou, do you think the president is right or wrong about that. >> he is correct, otherwise this is a sheehan, another attempt to continue the war against donald trump on the part of the left, it is a despicable, used the word deplorable tactic and strategy on the part of the democratic party. they have ignored what is the result of two and half years of investigation by the special counsel and the fbi. as if it never occurred, and now they've made this absurd claim about a cia officer who was just conveniently met with the house intelligence committee staff, days before it became a public matter thanks to the good expressions of the atom shift as

the president refers to him, bob talked me about doing something about trade, this president is the only one doing something about trade, it's bob's goods runs on wall street, is a good friends of multinationals everywhere, the chamber of horrors and the business roundtable working against the presidents trade policies and by the way, you are seeing great benefits and you may have noticed that as those tariffs have been in place over the course now i've a year, we have a splendid economy and as i listen to bob talk about the employment situation and jobs i would have thought that we were probably at six or 7% unemployment that we did not have a full employment economy. my god, and wages are rising for the first time in a decade. hallelujah. mike let's leave on the hallelujah. lou, you're gonna be talking about the impeachment efforts

tonight with your show with rudy giuliani. i'm looking forward to that tonight at 7:00 p.m. right here on fbn with lou. more states all over the country are looking to following california's footsteps allowing college athletes to profit off of their names, likeness and damages. heisman trophy winner in college football hall of fame winner, herschel walker disagrees with the california law and will tell us why in a foxbusiness exclusive coming up. also, tim cooksey and i tie with president trump on a host of issues. for the moment, not this one. the apple ceo showing a direct show of support for dreamers. the developing details on this, coming up. liberty mutual customizes your car insurance, so you only pay for what you need. i wish i could shake your hand. granted. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪

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david: apples tim cook goingagag to bat for the dreamers, undocumented immigrants who came to the u.s. as children and were

protected by an obama era order. hook signing on to a brief for the first time, apple employs 443 dreamers in the company says they eagerly sought out and hired them. cook is saying our country has enjoyed unparalleled success by welcoming people from around the world. tim cook it has seen eye to eye with a president on many different issues recently, this is a division for now. carol, how long do you think he continues? >> i don't see it as a division with the president so much as a division with congress who once again has failed to act. they refused to put forth any comprehensive immigration reform and just like on any other issue we have been talking about, usmc a and immigration is hard for companies to figure out what to do and hard for individuals to figure out what to do when congress won't have that type of clarity. i agree with tim cook and that we need some type of clarity and i don't think this will go away anytime soon.

>> tim cook first of all is a brilliant ceo. working for a dynamic, brilliant company. what i don't understand is when people that smart come together in their first thought is to file an amicus brief mother then take the 443, is that correct? the number of dreamers in the employ of apple instead of sponsoring them and moving them into citizenship with united states. this could have been resolved from the time i'm going to guest taken medium points at which they joined apple. they could be citizens by now. this is an absurdity. it is really i think a much lower standard that is being compared to apple than is their form and any other parts of their business, if indeed this is part of their business. >> i have to tell you, we have been talking immigration forever. we have watched out both parties have sat around talking about it dan never got anything done. the word is clarity and the

words are lack of clarity on anything. look, these dreamers are here. let's come up with something, let's get it on and it keeps getting past and past and passed on and probably won't get done for another few years. you're right, they should have been citizens by now if they just move forward but of course everybody is sitting there yapping away at each other and again, these people suffer because of it. >> it is actually worse than that, gary. these are companies that have the responsibility to those employees, their social conscious rises to file an amicus brief but doesn't rise to help an employee who could very easily as i said been a citizen by now. this is the situation with so many of the dreamers. it requires less of a legislative or quote on quote comprehensive reform in legislation before the congress than it does a will to get

something done. and the power of corporate america, they couldn't come up with a solution that didn't require an almost impossible bipartisan holistic comprehensive solution? you know what happens in washington. just keep making the problem bigger. >> i want to stick with the illegal immigration but on a slightly different track, 2020 helpful is worn endorsing the social plan by alexandria ocasio-cortez. warrants weeding out about the plan quote, it is going to take big structural changes to tackle poverty and inequality in the u.s. and aoc just society plan is just the type of bull comprehensive thinking we are going to need to get it time. it's the most common untrained controversy will -- of the plan. full eligibility for welfare programs and government benefits. is this really the kind of

change american voters want? >> i first want to step back and respond; ahead quickly. i am supportive of making sure we take care of dreamers and to lose point, we actually should have a pathway to citizenship and we could probably get that path very easily if congress would be willing to take a boat. >> was warned working on a ocs plant. >> this is not surprising because elizabeth warren wants a ocs endorsement and so it is not surprising that she is the only one who signed on to this. this has to go through federal legislation. this is not getting pastor going anywhere. so for me, this is once again a bit of idealism. >> it makes liz warrens pivoted to the center if that ever happens almost impossible, doesn't it? >> it may be impossible but so many things will be for her. what is possible is as i said, for corporate america to stand up and take responsibility for the people it is employing and to quit hiding behind this

nonsense. we could have had a comprehensive immigration legislation passed into law in 2006 and seven. we didn't because there was no desire for real, effective solutions for these people. we have to wrap this up. we have a special guest coming up. california's controversial new rules for athletes have some people calling foul. among them, herschel walker and why he says college athletes should not be allowed to make a profit like the pros do. he joins us in a fox exclusive next

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david: california making histor. to take a stand against long-standing double ncaa rule that college athletes are able to profit off their name area

they can sign endorsement deals. governor gavin newsom says it's only fair to let players benefit from the wealth they bring to their school by college football hall of famer, herschel walker does not agree with this decision. he joins us now in a foxbusiness exclusive. herschel, thank you for coming in. a lot of athletes have come out in favor of this california law. why are you against it? >> well, i am totally against it. first of all, education is important. i think by giving young athletes when you see some of the older athletes like myself sometime have probably handling money at the age that they are asked in their 20s and now you're talking about giving in 18, 19-year-old money, that's not going to be difficult but at the same time you're going to separate your teams. that's why it's called amateur sports. your scholarship is worth a lot of money. you have kids that are working two jobs just to pay for college. yet, you have athletes that get

a scholarship. of 30000-dollar or 50000-dollar year. that pays. there's no doubt that every scholarship athletes should get a stipend but to be paid for their likeness, i think that is the worst thing the governor could have signed when there's so many things in california he could be working on with athletics. >> let me say, herschel, great to see you. herschel and i follow each other on twitter. it is just like we are childhood friends. i also want to say to herschel before i say anything else, go dogs, the reality is that he's exactly right. and you're talking, what you do with the money? who created the welcome by the way one good thing that has come of this gavin newsom for the first time sounds like a capitalist, yet call that progress.

>> i call it progress, but my thing is, not to get into too political, why are you now working with the police in california give them more money. that sign something to make them more money and not to be really mean but let's clean up the streets there in california. why do you want to go to college sports? right now i think athletes you're going to separate them and at the same time he thinks that's going to help but i think that's going to have a lot of kids that you're gonna lose. the great athletes in college, i think you will lose them because they're gonna start making money and now they're going to become famous and they think they're bigger than who they really are and i think college is a time to educate, college is a time for you to mature and i don't think you'll be mature enough to go out and do it. >> herschel, this is robert wolf. i want to be like a friend like lou dobbs on gonna follow you, you are my favorite running back. i'm in a play devils advocate. i agree with you on the student

athlete and the idea of a stipend, but, when you are playing, if they had maddened sports and all of a sudden they were making the ncaa and ea sports and everyone was making hundreds of millions of dollars off of watching you play a videogame because it would've been you the number one draft running back or if all of a sudden the school making a ton of money on selling your jersey, but you are getting zero. during think as a capitalist and someone who was deserving of being part of benefiting from your image, your likeness, that you should get something for that? even if it is not while you're in college, put it in a trust so when you're out of college you get it. the idea that you get nothing but everybody's benefit enough of you is surprising to me. >> it is tough, but that is life. and let me tell you the reason why. i'm not trying to toot my own horn, but one of the things i told people, i won the heisman

trophy. but if you go back and look at some updates when i played commute on c and i'm talking about myself in third person. you don't see herschel walker get hit in the backfield many times at all. you see that i have great teammates. i have guys that pick me up. guys that lift me up that one are they going to get? they're not going to get anything. sooner or later you'll have division within the team. at the same time football players make money or a tennis player or golfer, there are other sports in college football. what about them? i think that's wrong to say you're going to start playing and appling for his likeness because i think the athlete then i think education is the key. i tell people this all of the time. as a football player you are old at 34,-year-old at 34 but you can be president of the united states in your 70s, but you need an education. education will take you further than the athletic world will. >> but, when you played actually

freshman i don't think could play varsity and you had to stay all four years, today that has changed dramatically. people are one and done in all sports but football, they can leave after two years, so the academics has been secretary. secondary. we are kidding ourselves that that's how the student athlete is driving it. >> herschel, you speak for me on this every time. i cannot agree more. you are so wise, i am listening to you and i hope so is everyone else. >> herschel, gary here. i want to ask the question a different way. what if every ncaa football player this week decide to protest and not show up for any football games this week because of this issue. guess what? nobody makes any money in my point is, they are the performers, i think reggie jackson use the term the straw that you stirs the drink. if you don't have the performers

nobody makes anything. so based on a business sense why not pay them because they are the performers? >> i think the problem we have today is that we have forgot about what law and order really is and what respect is. i'm not going to pick on athletes, but i think the coaches got to take control. an athlete has got to take control. you have respect and i mean if you decide to protest don't play, there's 50000 kids at the university of georgia and the football team they play well but there's other things besides football. there's other things besides that. and i think if they protest so be it, go home. don't play. i think this country was built on order and laws even though some need to be changed, yes but i think right now to gradually change everything and start paying an athlete is creating division and i don't like that. >> i'm going to over a long time on this one but herschel, we are

going to lose the satellite. there's no getting around that. herschel walker, what a great, great pleasure to have you here. please come back and see us again. we have a lot of agreement. thanks a lot. the great herschel walker. carol, we are going to owe him for a long time on that one. tonight we also thank you, lose jobs for being here. it was a great pleasure. you have to run and prepare for a big show. mr. rudy giuliani, the former great mayor of new york is going to be joining you now at one of the councils to the president. this is going to be a fascinating interview. an hour and a half from now right here on fox. thank you for joining us. >> thank you and i will try to get rudy through this. we wish you good luck. david: the fantastic trish regan will be coming into our studio to join the panel in your place. trish will be here in a moment. plus, federal judge letting harvard off the hook on affirmative action. was it the right call? we are live in boston, next.

>> a federal judge ruling can in fact consider race and the universities admissions process. molly lyon has the latest live from boston. hi, molly. >> hi, david. harvard the mission process passes constitutional muster. the lawsuit was filed in 2014. the elite institution allegedly used in the illegal racial quota

system discriminated against asian americans by personality score ultimately holding them to higher standard than others. the judge writes in her decision, the students who were admitted to harvard and chose to attend will live and learn with all sorts of people in all sorts of people, believes and talents. they will have the opportunity to know and understand each other beyond race with unique histories and experiences. the suit is one of several challenges brought by students repaired missions at the nonprofit group that argues that racial classifications and preferences in college admission are unfair, unnecessary and unconstitutional. in the wake of the decision, harvard president sent out a celebratory letter writing, in consideration with the race it helps us achieve the goal of creating a diverse student body that enriches the education of every student. everyone admitted to harvard college has something unique to offer our community. today we reaffirmed the importance of diversity and

everything it represents in the world. now, some legal watchers believe this could potentially be appealed to the supreme court and -- david: molly, thank you. as promised, trish regan host of trish regan primetime is with a spray great is you. what you make of this? >> wow. let me just say, at the outside here, i am a big believer in diversity. racial diversity, intellectual diversity, diversity of opinion which sometimes gets lost these days and, i think that helps create a better environment. whether you're talking about a college campus or a newsroom, it's good to have different kinds of people with different kinds of ideas. but, i don't think that you should look at someone through the prism of race and say they are automatically going to bring a different set of ideas. a lot of this is social and economic as well.

so, you can be an african-american inner-city can from new york city, or, you can be an african-american kid growing up in the affluent suburb of wellesley. you are going to have two very different perspectives. we can't say just because you are african-american that you're going to represent a particular viewpoint. so, it is a whole lot more complicated than that. i think it is unfortunate they say if you are asian for example, check that box we already have too many asians. what if that particular asian kid grew up in the inner city of new york? maybe they will bring more to the table than the african-american from wesley mack. david: carol? >> you know how i feel about harvard, the hedge fund with an education institution attached to it. with that being said you either stand for the principle of it and not discriminating based on race or you don't. i am afraid i think it is reprehensible to judge people based on her fear is. i kinda feel that is where we are as a nation, but you have to

make a choice. either we are allowed to discriminate against people for random things or you are not. but you don't get to pick and choose if it fits your narrative. i think it's horrible. david: very quickly. we only have 15 seconds. >> i don't understand how the plaintiff says, you are picking based on race. they agree on it but they say you lose the case. there is something very, very weird with this whole thing. david: the last word on the subject. meanwhile, president trump calling out nancy flows and other democrats were focusing on an impeachment inquiry while ignoring their devastated homeless crisis. the mayor of laguna hills say they need to focus on the root of the problem instead of a bumper sticker slogans. he has solutions he is going to tell us about them live, coming up next. >> she should focus on her own district. you see what is happening to her district? we call it tent city. it is terrible. that's why your cash automatically goes into a money market fund

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>> now, you have to see what it. you happen to see what the democrats have allowed to happen. as an example, what they have allowed to happen just take a look. to los angeles. >> president trump calling out nancy pelosi and california democrats were allowing the homeless crisis to reach a boiling point. we told you about los angeles official pushing governor newsom to declare state of emergency. the mayor of laguna hills california, don cedric joins us. you say your town is doing better dealing with homelessness then l.a. what are you doing that other city officials aren't? >> one of the things we do is try to prevent it in the first place. our schools for example, we know that not every child is cut out for a four-year university so we provide meaningful options for students they can get vocational training, they will graduate with a marketable skill and be self reliance. we hope every one of our kids that graduates comes out as a

productive member of society and prevents their own homelessness. there is only so much we can do as a city when the cost of living continues to escalate due to the overwhelmingly high cost of living in california caused by the liberal policies. it is interesting the liberal policymakers are complaining to the governor wanted to make an emergency because they can't build a shelter. why? because of the terrible excess regulations and government bureaucracies. they're finally realizing that their same policies they put in place that cause them to not be able to make a cost of, timely homeless shelter the same policies that made many of people homeless in the first place and makes it expensive due to the same policies. >> mayor, one of the things with homelessness that seems to be challenges the someone who is less a single mom who lost her job might be different than

someone who is addicted to drugs, might be different from someone struggling with mental health issues, it is the complexity of the problem part of the reason why it is so hard to get a solution done with government? >> it is. we certainly need to have as far as treating the symptoms those are already homeless and going beyond the cost of living in california which is pushed so many people into homelessness. those that are there we need to be compassion and find a way to get them back on their feet, and there are individual problems. half are overdosed on drugs, another half, about half have mental health problems aliens, we cannot give them the vocational training and job help they need until we can get them off of drugs and until we can get them the mental health training they really need and deserve. it is a case-by-case basis. >> and this is an opportunity for government to step in. and to create homes to help these people and to give them

money and all of the things the left likes to do. i don't understand why they are so absentee on this particular issue. to me, it is for them. >> you're exactly right. in fact, $600 million was spent on homelessness last year by the city of los angeles. while homelessness just continue to escalate. now that they are trying to build more shelters they are realizing they cannot do it because of their own policies they have put in place that prevents homes from being built in a timely and cost-effective way. hopefully they will be able to see and understand what the rest of us regular joe businessman in the regular homeowner has been experiencing in california for the last 20 or 30 years why this government has gone unchecked and raising taxes on gasoline and utilities. the same home in california cost 20% more to build than the same home somewhere else. they need to compare the differences in the fees and regulations and home being built here versus elsewhere and start

to make meaningful changes to reduce the cost of living so the same single mom might be able to afford to live here. i have got four kids and they are all graduating from college about now. i fear they will not be able to live where they grew up. it is the same policies in place that caused it. they are finding out for themselves. those policies don't just make homeless shelters difficult to pull it's also to make it -- and living in california's expensive. >> using the word priority, here in orlando there was an issue that came up with the coalition for the homeless. they made it a priority and it has done a terrific job. these elected officials in california, do they know what their priorities are? do they know they can be on elected and are the people they're getting a little bit fed up of them not getting the job done? especially in a strong economy? what happens if the economy goes

south? it only gets worse. >> in the private sector if you don't do your job or you don't get a promotion or get reelected. we need to take that same strategy to take the people out of office. you are right. their priorities are out of whack. the priorities are to give a hand out to and not at hand to up. we are spending all of our money given away food and shelter which is important, we need to do that but that can go on for 30 or 40 years for the same individual if we don't help that person become self-reliant. that is where we need to put our priorities. >> great to have you here. please come back and see us again. you are getting applause from the panel. before we had to break let's see what's coming up on evening at it with my friend ms. elizabeth mcdonald. >> this feels like a log rolling in the ocean with the headlines pouring in. yes, the markets were spooked. october is the most dangerous month for stocks. we have more on the reality check that often bounces, we

will give your take a breath moment on the show. we are also digging into what sets the stage for surveillance of the trump campaign. it was over reach under the obama administration. we have critics said elizabeth warren wants to put the u.s. economy into a teachers faculty lounge are theories that were never tested in the real world. why taxes are now moral crusade. we also have dolly lynn and her daughter jennifer lynn on talking about the housing market. those are big guests tonight. >> log rolling in the ocean, what an image. your eyes come up with those. thank you. david: a shiny new car with generous financing may seem like a good deal but will tell you how the rises raising concerns t the middle class and their ability to pay those loans of.

david: new car loans are longer term, more expensive than they have been, average loan now 69 months. with monthly payments lasting longer than your brake pods. is this a red flag for the middle class? >> yes, it is. easily, this reminds me of subprime, they will go in, buy a car they can't afford, they will open a car less than the equity is. this is the beginning of a deterring a in my opinion the whole credit system, people are spending more than they have again. >> and the individuals? why can't they take more responsibility. nobody thinks about how much they take out because they want that new car? or how much money they may

borrow for a few house or outfit for the weekend. there has to be more accountability from individuals. >> thank you. >> thank you trish, amen, it seems that everyone wants to blame capitalism, everyone is enjoying fruits of capitalism, but they enjoy it too much, it used to be, if you wanted a new car, you would not go on vocasion, maybe cut -- vacation, and maybe cutback on food, now they say we'll just go to debt. >> let me be clear. this is late cycle action. this goes on with car but subprime lending on housing is proliferating again, this is bad news again, late cycle action, i think we're seeing it in some numbers. >> add, no one says that there is a situation where they are not being respectful to what they think they can do, they don't have the education, a lot

of people coming in don't understand 3 year from 5 year to 7 year to a jumbo. david: here we go again. richard branson virgin galactic inching closer to tourism space travel. next.

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david: lauren in commercial space travel is almost here, virgin galactic close to flying tourists to edge of space, only 250 thousand, trish, is it worth it, would you do it. >> no, you are talking to someone who does not like rollercoasters. >> i was going to say, you can't pay me 250,000.

this is a no. david: gary, you love rollercoasters? >> absolutely, 10 miles west from me is disney world, space mountain, i am good with that. no space for gary. >> we should mention, this is a quick up and down, first mercury alan shepard's flight, does not circumvent the globe. >> it seems ridiculously expensive, if they told me i could go to the moon, that would be worth considering. david: trish, would you go to the moon? >> did you not hear the bit about rollercoaster. david: nothing? no. reporter: 3 day -- >> it is amazing i can get on a plane. >> i would not. david: not? nobody, caroll and gary. >> nope, no way.

>> you would go if it was 25 bucks. david: i would go for 25 as well. >> no aim of money. >> i am out. david: i would go to the moon. that is it for "bulls and bears," see you next time. elizabeth: the markets are spooked. we're in october. we have fears of a slowdown the economy, growth of earnings. the dow is off 4% from record highs, we have nancy pelosi, adam schiff talking impeachment. president trump blasting the do-nothing democrats today, this is a hoax, a quote, bs coop that is driving the stock market down. a reality check that often bounces, it is a jam-packed