eastern and every weekday start, turn on weekdays from six to >> it's a lot of work that's what they count on. you get exhausted along the way. that is it for us. >> happy friday, have a good weekend. 372 on the dow. "bulls & bears" start now. >> we have the best economy we have ever had, we have the best job numbers we have ever had and 51 years. the best unemployment numbers that we have had in a half a century. and you know what, people understand that. people are working and making money. if you look at one very important work that was just announced, wages up 3%, that is unheard of. >> president trump celebrating the september job report with unemployment now at more than 50 year low. making a bold prediction of fox business of the strength of the economy near term.

this is "bulls & bears" and i'm david asman. joining me on the panel neo- komodo is with us. jackie, adam rosinski and gary. white house national economic director larry kudlow sounded very optimistic about the economy. here is what he told stuart varney earlier. >> looking at the data, but the coincident and forward-looking indicators, i believe there is no recession in sight. we could be in attorney zone back to the 3% growth, again i come back to the household numbers and then appointment numbers. you can look at this much more positively. >> neo- komodo, what are the chances of getting back to the 3% economic growth? >> i think we can get back there, not anytime soon if you think of the state of the world, we have to really hope that the rest of the world by their stuff

and keeps going and back and forth. to get back to those levels. it's not out of the question but i've been given the ongoing concern about trade and manufacturing sector and what happened on services. even though most of the data that you have reported is outstanding, it's not ou as outstanding as it slows down. so to get back to that number, it's going to be tough. >> you look at the headline number, three and half percent. that's where the market got excited. it also got excited because the fed is probably going to take action and cut rates once again. when you look at this report, 136,000 jobs what most folks were expecting. once the numbers are revived it will all look a little better. at the same time young global growth slowing. i don't see how that doesn't drag the united states down a little bit. you cannot ignore the media fracturing number. you cannot ignore the services number. you cannot ignore that retailers are struggling right now.

things will get harder if we don't have a deal with china. at the same time, 3% seems tough for me. >> first of all, welcome neil to the panel. >> thank you very much. >> i'm fortunate you're joining us tonight. >> i feel flattered. [laughter] >> i cannot join the gloom and doom crowd and here's why, neil and jackie have voiced a number of the issues and there is others, there's the creeping socialism that we see with the democratic candidates. we have brexit -- >> we still have north korea, th,the reason i bring that up, u have one of those days where every single thing that you could possibly think goes wrong,

you've nothing but upside. if any of those brings our way, we would have a trade agreement with china, break that gets remote solved smoothly, which i think it will. and anyone of those things, trump gets reelected, i think we get back to the growth because everything that could possibly go wrong, even though the underlying strength is good right now, i don't think we have anything but upside. >> that is fine, i'm all for optimism, but we have plenty of downside. the problem with larry kudlow no matter how smart he is, he's only going to say one thing. you can listen to it and factor it in. the great thing about the okudal kabuto makes a really great point. president trump is doing everything that he can to stop the rest of the world from buying more of our stuff. getting into ill advised trade tensions where he does not have

to do it but it's too late. it is done, that's number one, number two we have political uncertainty in a country and if you want to call it creeping socialism or impeachment on the other hand, that is not good for growth. >> neil, it's not just the political partisans, like larry kudlow, kingfisher, one of the smartest financial analyst that we know quite often, he came out with a report today that says there are hiccups in the market but generally nowhere near every session in the fact that we have had so down and manufacturing and slowdown in service sector this week does not mean were going into recession. >> i don't mean to say we are, i don't think anyone is thinking that. i think those that are looking for a much stronger and double what were looking at in this quarter, you will have to see a

number of big developments that will prove what is happening here on the factory floor in services and abroad. i don't see that. that is not to say, a recession is coming or even a significant slowdown in the near term. i do see that we bump around at these levels. i do want to stress to people that we have not outlawed the economic cycle or the gains and flows that come with a vigorous economy. it has down pointed up points. >> i want to make the point that the president measured the health of the economy based on the stock market is doing. those are two different things. we have always had the on the show. what's interesting, the stock will go up even if we see a partial deal with china. the stock market will go up if we get a break the deal in the panel has made here. were out of selection point.

and stocks will continue to rise even if growth is slowing a little. we don't have to have the 3% number for people to feel good. the bumping around is what people need to brace for in utilize questions. >> just to go back in history, there was a president in our lifetime who actually managed to have four or five years in a row of growth over 4% that was ronald reagan. that was after he was reelected and put in another tax cut. a huge tax cut on the high marginal race and that got the economy going. four or five years at 4% growth, 3% growth compared to that sounds possible. >> i totally agree, i remember reagan was coming out of an environment, the carter malaise if you will, he was fighting communism. it some of the problems trump faces pretty it's interesting that adam says we have more downside. because by what?

the rest of the world as we do so, no it is already slow. will have trecento and with china, no we already have that. weird have dictators. >> the upside is, anywhere. >> you make a perfectly good point, i disagree with you, we have not felt the negative impact yet of brexit, we have not really felt the negative impact of a trade war with china. we have just been worried about it. >> the stocks have you sideways for the last year. we have felt it, were still near all-time highs even with all those problems. >> i'm not saying it will get worse, to say that it won't is could be believed. >> was here with the president has to say. he pleaded moments after the job report this morning, breaking news, unemployment rate at three to half% drops to a 50 year low,

while america brags it needs your president. even though he did nothing wrong. a strong economy with the vote voters. >> i think that's a no nice facr to have. tell th bill clinton the same thing. let's say a strong economy in the strong market was a nice tailwind and i think this president by enlarged enjoys the same. i think he will probably be right when it comes to the backdrops. >> during the course of the clinton impeachment he enacted a capital gains tax cut that got the market worry. anything could happen. >> the difference with this environment, no one is working with each other. >> democrats have to present something to voters.

nancy pelosi will have to decide what she brings up. maybe it's usmca. we have to move on, president trump says he has the absolute right to ask other countries to investigate 2020 hopeful joe biden and his son. but does he have that right? we will ask andrew mccarthy, he is next and trish regan caught up with the president daughter of alka trump, asking her about impeachment, that is 8:00 p.m. eastern time. here are the takes. >> what do you think of what is going on right now? >> i think everything is a question of priority. we have our priorities in the white house were fighting everyday and were fighting everyday for the quality of life for every single person in this country and we are delivering. on that fight and on that promise.

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>> it is time for a wealth tax. 50 millions and first dollar, you have to pitch in 2 cents. and 2 cents on every dollar after that. >> we are going to hold the billionaire class, not only are they going to pay more in taxes, they are going to pay significantly more in taxes. >> by the way it's 2%, not precisely 2 cents. but 2020 democrat liz warren inland ready centers pushing a wealth tax, this could end up hurting the middle tax. a lot of experts are raising concerns over the long-term scope of these plans. remember the alternative minimum tax, in 1969 was targeted 155

taxpayers. by 2010, about ready 1 million people were paying that tax. should the middle-class be worried that these wealth taxes will eventually go down to them? >> absolutely. washington runs on one thing, it runs on power. people like bernie sanders, nancy pelosi and people on the right too, a lot of these people have been on them for eons. accumulating a lot of power, getting more and more money to feed their districts or whatever population they represent. just like the cabinet official in my time has said, i want to make my cabinet my department smaller, no one does that. the only way to increase your power is to increase by sucking

in more and more money. that's how politics works. once you get addicted to the amt or a sales tax, it does not go away. if it did go away it would start the show off with power. if this gets passed, it will probably only affect 100 - 200 people out there. and by the time it gets around when you and i are retired, it will affect the majority of the population because that is where the money is. >> you know how much i love you, i cannot help but giggle at the irony of discussing the wealth tax of the florida luxury scene behind you. [laughter] >> i have worked hard for the. >> god bless you for having achieved all that you have achieved. [laughter] >> is the question you're asking, do we see where congress lowered, if it is elizabeth warren 15 million were they lower tha normal.

that is all a good question to add. as a way in the future. but more relevant, is it a good idea in the first phase? that's what people wil will be debating and 29. is it a good idea? >> it's an idea. i truly have not decided. >> neil? >> i just find the other ways to raise money then would just how it is spent. and i always see this. you might raise a lot of money from this even though i suspect that ken fisher has said, and the rich have a lot of lawyers, very good lawyers and accountants who can find ways around this. and i suspect they will find ways around this, we have seen in states that have taxes on millionaires and the like, they did not raise the money that they wanted in maryland comes to

mind. when we see that, in the revenue, money is not set, it moves. the hopes are unrealistic and having said that, i think it would be nice in both parties to look at how this money goes out, what is wasted, what is not, take a look at our expenditures and where they're going, because to show at least a fraction of the creativity to raising money as you do with spending it. i think were well on our way but we are not doing that. >> it comes down to mindset, there is a children's book if you give a mouse a cookie, if he asked for cookie he'll want milk if you given milk and want to crawl and that, if you crawls in bed then who want a bedtime story, that's what the democrats are about. >> if you given more than that he runs for congress. [laughter] >> so we start with a wealth tax and states only 2% or 2 cents in

only a group of people, it's not enough people to pay for all the programs that they're proposing. it does have to click down on the middle class and it may not necessarily be even through this tax, they have open the floodgates for other tax. >> i just have to say, we have a tax that was to pray tax put on taxicabs in new york and it came in at 80 cents about five years ago, not only do we still have that tax but it is now $4.50 for just sitting in a cab and just walking in. i have never met a tax that does not grow and i think this one will grow along with the rest. president trump says he is absolute right to ask other countries to investigate 2020 hopeful joe biden and his son. does he? we will ask former u.s. attorney andrew mccarthy. andrew mccarthy. he is imagine traveling hassle-free with your golf clubs.

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>> we are investigating corruption. we are not investigating campaigns. i don't care about his campaign or politics. but i do care about corruption. this whole thing is about corruption. >> that is fascinating. president trump defending his calls for ukraine and now china to investigate 2020 hopeful joe biden. this is the president is expected to send a letter to house speaker nancy pelosi to impeach him. trout maintains he has done nothing wrong and he tweeted out, as the president of the united states, i have an absolute right perhaps even a duty to investigate or have investigating corruption and that would include asking or suggesting to have other countries help out. here is former u.s. attorney andrew mccarthy.

it might not be suitable but is it legal for the president to do what he is suggested? >> certainly legal for him to say that he think the chinese should investigate biden, i kinda think it's like when i was the u.s. attorney asking the family to investigate something. if he wants to find corruption, if that's what he's interested in, maybe he wants to start with china rather than biden. but that's just my suggestion. >> a lot of people are confused about the issue when it comes to impeachment specifically in the legality. so just to draw on david's question. there are some people who are saying, just asking the question of a foreign government is not legal. and then there ours those who say that it is not legal. which one is a question or. >> quid pro quo is one of the worst terms that pervades this debate because all negotiations, quid pro quo is latin for this

or that and it is all foreign relation to our exchange between countries pursuing their own interest. a bribery is always whether it's a corrupt quid pro quo or not. and the answer depends on the situation but with a lot of countries, i don't think this is the case with china but for example with ukraine, we had a mutual legal assistance treaty going back to 1998, when i was a prosecutor before i was a prosecutor, sometimes a prosecutor, it is a commonplace for governments to ask each other for assistance in their investigation, that's a pretty routine thing and in a lot of cases that are notorious cases, i remember in the '90s for example the fbi and the justice department asked president clinton to lean on the saudis to help investigate the towers

investigation because of the uranian involvement. that stuff goes on all the time but i do think, there is a lot in the politics. i think here, the reason this is a lot of people the wrong way, i should not probably try to bad it, but as between china and biden, biden is not the problem. none of you who know me will be surprised to learn i'm not a biden guy. but i think you need to get perspective on the players we're dealing with. >> andrew, i look at things very similar, i'm not a lawyer but i look at the presidents interest of getting to the bottom of corruption. we felt that we would joe biden was not the front runner for the democratic nomination or on poles. so he was saying one way or the

other, i find that really stretches. i know this will get me in trouble with a lot of people, there is a line of what the high crime and a misdemeanor. that's a serious moral apical line. you know this is a guy that you could likely face in the next election. and you are trying to get information on him that can be damaging to him in the next election. i don't know what the standards are to get someone impeach. i just know by the standard we should hold our presidents accountable, and human beings accountable, that is for one of the better terms achy. >> i think you are right about that. i don't think it has a level of high crimes, you need like a latin thing on the end.

>> i do think there is a lot to what you are saying, it was just a week ago that the president gave his speech on nationalism at the united nations in his approach to foreign policy in general seems to be the united states should butt out unless there is some critical american interest that is at stake, we should state out of the affairs of other countries. it's hard to stay in that position and the president has decided except he will need discourage of corruption. that does not, with all the things that we have looked the other way including for example, the short-range missile testing recently. i kinda do not think that corruption in ukraine is the place that you want to make the exception. he is vulnerable to the argument that he is doing this for political purpose.

>> last question will have about 30 seconds. >> i'll go straight to the question been dying to ask a lawyer, like you andy. does the president of the united states have an absolute right to anything? >> , in our system we don't do absolute right, there is no absolute right, even rights to liberty are absolute. no, the president has carefully calibrated constitutional rights and some are very powerful but numnone absolute. >> what a pleasure. please come back and see us again soon. sadly we have to let our friend neil cavuto go so he can go prepare for fox news saturday we will all be in bed but we can turn on and watch a working. >> we are working on all this.

how this jostled with the market and economy and everything else that you have been exploring. we will look at it a lot. >> i want you to come back neil, it must be fun to be a guest. >> it's a great show i'm a big fan. [laughter] >> great to see you. thank you have a good show tomorrow. hong kong taking new measures to stop demonstrators that protest rage all over the city. how does this all in? we will ask former hong kong reporter for the wall street journal. that is next. ♪ 2,000 fence posts. 900 acres. 48 bales. all before lunch, which we caught last saturday. we earn our scars. we wear our work ethic. we work until the work's done. and when it is, a few hours of shuteye to rest up for tomorrow,

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[shouting] >> it is getting hot and call hong kong. violent protest against the communist rulers heat up to the boiling point. claudia who covered this in 1989 as bureau chief of the wall street journal has been covering today's modern-day freedom fighters and she joined the from hong kong. has the violence that we just all in those pictures in the government's response to taken a turn for the worse? >> yes, likely because the government keeps egging things

on. the government has given them basically nothing, just a refusal to do anything. hong kong people are protesting for freedom, they just lost more of that even including the shutdown of the subway. >> hi claudia, gary smith here, thank you for being on the show. i don't see this, if i was a resident of hong kong, the whole one country, two system is out the window, i do not blame them for their protest. can this and any other way than a civil war with military stepping in? >> that is what is terrifying. that's what's terrible for hong kong. it is getting harder and harder to see how. the government is one country,

two system, the rules that are applying seem to be china which the rule of law, people are told what to do and there is no recourse. and that is what they ran into. and that is what is driving the violence. there is no negotiation from the government. they are just telling them. >> can i ask you how the issue with the facemasks, the government doesn't want the protesters to wear them. in the protesters said they wear them basically to protect their identity because they are scared. what are you hearing on the street about that? >> that is absolutely right. the problem is there is not a sense anymore. this government has violated so much trust that there is not a sense that they can rely on the government to give them a fair hearing or treat them fairly. they are hiding their identity effectively in front of a system that runs with china, not the system running hong kong.

and that has them furious. people are so angry, they're basically a free culture and they are being treated like puppets chief executive appointed by beijing. and people are in china. that is creating a tremendous collision. and that is driving this violence and the government is in responding with more violence. it is a very bad situation. >> claudia this is adam in san francisco, i want to be clear, my sympathies are 110% with the people of hong kong. but let me point out the devils advocate, it's fairly obvious thaobviousthat they have been sa signal that china, if we do not want to be a part of you, it's easy to b understand how the chinese would react. that's an attack on the chinese communist party. i read this but a way of asking, is there any way to conceive of

the two sides seeing i to i, given where the each stand? >> not right now. what is actually needed is concession by the communist party. which is violating the treaty promises. warning to anyone who would cut a deal with china, watch out. they do not honor these things. china's communist party does not tolerate free people living under its rough. hong kong is a free country and they're asking for rights and freedoms, not only promised under treaty but due to any human being and what they're getting from china from the chief executives in hong kong is a complete refusal. there was no negotiation, you do what we tell you or else.

>> we see these extraordinary pictures including the one with the fellow was shot in the chest by a policeman. are there any television stations in hong kong or newspapers for that matter that are free to the published or broadcast what we see here? >> yeah, almost miraculously, there is a government center on tv that has been doing a pretty good job and then there is apple daily, a major newspaper. these are really embattled outpost at this point. apple daily owner has come under threat over and over again from china and rt hk, the speculation will go forward and not retain the voice that they have. beyond that, more and more in the press has been pressure, shut down and an immense undermining going on, that is why this whole thing blew up so

much, it was not one law that they did not like, china has been making sure that people lose their jobs if they support the cause of freedom. >> we have to go but please, a final warning, take care of yourself. great to see you here. thank you for coming and we wish you safe travels. >> are millennial's afraid of investing. some of them at the university, their answers could surprise you. that is coming up. ♪ ♪

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>> fox business is invested in you. we sent christina to florida university to find out how students feel about investing money in the stock market. what did you find out? >> i found out what seems to run through the various generations, students do not have the money which we already know because of student debt or not saving but

they're not seeing it as a priority. the lack of confidence when it comes to investing. i don't think it specific only to students, that translates into adult hood. listen to the students, just this week to get them to share their investing tips and even if they do so. >> are you investing any of your money in the stock market or financial products? >> i'm an economic nature but i have not invested any money yet. but i plan to. >> i don't know how and don't know the time. >> i'm invested and i do pay. >> have you ever thought about saving for the future? >> no, is there anything else holding you back from the stock market or other financial products?

>> not enough money. >> to feel what you understand what goes on if you have the money? >> probably not. >> do you invest in financial products? >> yes. >> mostly stocks and bonds. i save and spend it on other stupid stuff. >> shoes, audio equipment. >> i know so little about the economy i'm just not capable of it. >> given vice for our viewers? what are you holding? go with the market, long term. >> we wait until you're older? >> probably. i don't want to thing about it right now. [laughter] >> some of the people in the video, some students were economic or business students especially the guy with the tide. i did not know what an etf was during my undergrad. but the big factor is i of fearf investing and that's why we as a business channel and an anchor need to make it easier. and assessable. >> we don't talk and jargon with acronyms.

>> even though there is not a lot of savvy, i'm wondering how different this is from younger generations of adults. i don't think about my first talk until he was 25 or so, at least 25. >> i don't think it's much different at all, to perspective, one has an undergraduate economic measure and then getting an mba myself, i guarantee all the business courses i've taught, i've never learned one thing about investing, i learned about macroeconomics, all this other stuff, but i never once learned how to make money on the market. but i have to millennial's in my family and i can tell you the biggest crushing thing, they do not have the money. my younger one will forever be paying off student loans from

her masters. and the other one is a college professor, not making a lot of money and thinking about investing, she does it through me but they don't have the money or the knowledge. christina hit in the video the crux of it. >> good think she has a successful father in mother. [laughter] >> that is changing the subject. i want to pick up on something that christina said. i think we, not just business channels, all of business journalism and financial journalism have done a huge disservice to the populace and young people by making it so confusing because it is not that confusing and as a gentleman in the tide pointed out. >> we have to end the segment, but we will take all the jargon out of explanations of how to invest and make it simple for you because we invest in your. >> they tried to intrude on the presidential candidate but they were stopped and the tracks according to microsoft. according to microsoft. we will ask cyber security our 18-year-old was in an accident. when i called usaa, it was that voice asking me, "is your daughter ok?" that's where i felt relief.

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>> a possible threat for democracy. microsoft says a group of hackers attempted to infiltrate of a campaign of one or more presidential candidates. they did not succeed. here is cyber security analyst, does this attack look like it could be linked to the reigning government directly? >> that is hard to say, these are common domestically and overseas. it's really tough to speculate to know who it was. but according to reports it does look that way. >> one of the things that jumped out, microsoft saying the attack on friday was not technically sophisticated. when i think about hacks i think about capital one, how sophisticated the hackers have to be. but it's scary to think that

they don't. >> when we think of hacking and writing a code, it's less common than we think. people are able to go out and look on social media and places and get the information that you use to impersonate somebody or trick them through fishing or other ways to give away their account information. >> hello, i'm curious about the appropriate angle to this. can you explain why microsoft announced this and how should people use microsoft products be reacting versus people who do not use microsoft product. >> a good indication that microsoft is keeping an eye on these things and watching the accounts and suspicious activity. no matter what e-mail service you use or what service you use it's important to be vigilant. i don't believe because microsoft is less secure, there have been similar warnings from other e-mail providers in the past and campaigns as well. >> gary smith here, you bring up a very good point. the whole hacking like you see,

it is not the most common way, you say by the way, what's your password or you going to facebook or something like that. are these corporations political organizations and is anyone getting more smarter about not divulging personal information that you have seen in the industry? >> there's a lot more information to get and i think people are sharing a lot more. it is still a very common factor to get into these accounts and some people are more aware but not necessarily smarter. >> there are only two people running for president who have a microsoft e-mail provider. one is president trump and the other is mark sanford. it's between one of those two were they try to get it. there's a u.s. air force spy who defected to the iranian side back in 2012, she is still

assumed to be in tehran. could she be one of the people behind this customer. >> anything is possible. the fact of the matter, according to reports, it really could've been anybody. anybody is able to go out and look at people's information and try to get the information to reset their passwords. it's really possible to speculate. >> you are great and put it into perspective. thank you so much for being here. no more teachers, not quite, one major university is considering dropping the sats from the admission

>> put down your number two pencil, remember the awful phrase. the university of california is considering dropping the sat altogether. another testing requirement from

the admission process. i want to start by how did you guys do? >> i'm according tell you my score only because -- they are scoring these tests differently and i do not want to date myself. i work my butt off to get the score that i wanted to get into the college that i wanted. every saturday and sunday practice test, if you take the test away in the standardization away, kids lose sent to have rigor and discipline. that's what's happening in this country. it's a serious problem, and then kids tried to buy their ways or their parents trying to do that for them. it's worrisome, you gotta keep the sat. >> i cannot remember what my score was. >> but i have not dug into this yet. i don't understand what they plan to replace it with. i don't agree, they are supposed to be aptitude test, they're not supposed to be about how hard you prepare.

and if they can do something better. >> what do you think taken on the first try in your score is what it is? >> are you saying it's like an iq test, take the test for the first time don' don't study and compare you to me. >> that's what it's supposed to be in theory. plus your grades. but. >> california has already great system, and whatever parent gives those money it seems to be working very well. and for everyone a multibillionaire or mother or father, but an sat is only objective away. and of course you're going to prepare. >> it's the objective and

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