he's got a lot of clients, so i just don't know. i haven't spoken to rudy about it. i don't know. i will say this, from what i heard, i just heard about this, they said we have nothing to do with it. we're totally -- we have nothing to do with it. >> on china, were you joking when you asked china to investigate the bidens? >> was i what? >> were you joking when you asked china to investigate? >> china has to do whatever they want. if they want to look into something, they can look into it. if they don't want to look into it, they don't have to. >> were you serious? >> frankly, as far as i'm concerned, if china wants to look into something, i think that's great. if they don't want, to i think that's great too. that's up to china. -- if they don't want to, i think that's great too. that's up to china. >> [inaudible]. >> trey gowdy is a terrific guy. i think there's a problem with he can't start for another couple of months because of

lobbying rules and regulations. so you will have to ask about that. i just heard trey gowdy can't start till sometime after january because of the lobbying rules and regulations. so i don't know. we will have to see. >> [inaudible]. >> go ahead. >> [inaudible]. >> perhaps the last one, i hope. i hope the last one. of the three, i hope it is going to be the last one. look, we have no soldiers in syria. we've won. we've beat isis and we beat them badly and decisively. we have no soldiers. the last thing i want to do is bring thousands and thousands of soldiers in and defeat everybody again. we've already done that. so what we have is really two choices. you have the choice of bringing in the military and defeating everybody again, or you have the choice of financially doing some

very strong things to turkey so that they take it a little bit easy on really competition that is -- i don't think it's been fairly treated in many ways. okay? we have a very good relationship with the kurds, or we can mediate. i hope we can mediate, john. i hope we can mediate. >> do you support sanctions? >> [inaudible]. >> say it? >> [inaudible]. >> turkey knows where i stand. and the last thing -- okay, very simple. we had a big victory. we left the area. i don't think the american people want to see us go back in with our military, go back in to that area again. we won. we left the area. i don't think we want to go back in. let's see what happens. we're going to possibly do something very very tough with respect to sanctions and other financial things. >> [inaudible]. >> you would support sanctions?

>> [inaudible]. >> i think we can win. it's been a long time since a republican won. we have a 20,000 seat auditorium. you know, we have essentially madison square garden and it's sold out. over 80,000 people requested tickets. it will be totally sold out. i don't know who is going, but it will be totally sold out. if you are not going to be there, i'm going to miss you, but they have a line now that's many blocks long. it's amazing. we have a line right now in minnesota that's many blocks long. i think i can win minnesota, yes. >> [inaudible]. >> i think omar is helping us win in minnesota and other places. >> would you accept a smaller deal -- >> i will see you in minnesota. >> smaller deal? >> i will see you in minnesota. david: the president talking moments ago. he is on his way to a big rally

in minnesota, a state he thinks he can win over for his reelection. talking about a lot of things. you heard him talking about turkey and the decision to pull our troops out of syria, which some people said was a green light for turkey to go in and there is killing going on. turkey's bragging about it. we will be talking about that later in the show. also of course talking about china and the president telling reporters there that the trade talks today went very well. he says that he intends to meet with china's top trade negotiator tomorrow, and we welcome you, folks. thank you for being here on bulls & bears. . i'm david asman. joining me on the panel jonathan hoenig, kristina partsinevelos, gary kaltbaum and liz peek. stocks surged while high level trade talks were still in progress. trump tweeted the following big day negotiations with china. they want to make a deal, but do i? it is kind of cryptic.

i meet with the vice premiere tomorrow at the white house. is the table set for some kind of a deal? >> the table has been set for a deal for months. the question is, are the diners going to come to the table? the news today and the sort of positive reaction in the stock market was because over the last several days, any number of negative stories have surfaced about the trade delegation possibly going home early and how trump really wasn't going to meet with the vice premiere and all kind of bad things were going on in terms of us putting sanctions on tech companies in china, etc. etc. so, you know, is that all posturing? is it positioning in order to get together finally tomorrow and say look we're willing to walk away from these things if you will do x y and z. that is now the hope. i think the chorus of people who want something done on china is getting louder and louder. i think the president's hearing that. i think they need to do this and particularly with the impeachment news and the pressure coming from congress this has got to be resolved.

>> i still think it is quite impressive how traders still react the moment you get a tweet, even though the tweet has said absolutely nothing other than trade negotiations are going well. he uses the word good, well, all that and yet you see a huge up tick in the markets. i do believe there's going to be decent progress in order to claim a political victory. the progress most likely will revolve around the agricultural products. today china has increased its purchases of u.s. pork as well as 400,000 metric tons of soybeans so they are following through on that. however, the deal probably won't include the major point which is intellectual property, forced joint ventures i still think the president will come out and say it is a win. it is going to be a smaller deal. david: let's bring in former commerce department deputy director chris garcia. new and higher tariffs are supposed to kick in on october 15th, less than a week away. do you think they will be delayed, the new tariffs? >> yeah, i read this as a positive signal. i think the chinese were going

to have to make those purchases anyway. there's a major concern right now about whether or not the's going to be that -- there's going to be that tariff increase. there's also the agricultural purchases that china needs to make sure they buy because there's a sourcing problem, supply chain issue there. even though there's significant tariffs on u.s. pork, soybeans and so forth, they are at a much more attractive price than some of the other costly sources that they have. but this is not just about the interim purchases. i mean this is a significant cultural divide that we're seeing. we wanted the same terms that china agreed to back in 2001, even lighter terms is what they agreed to in may but they walked out and backed out of this disagreement. when the vice premiere came if and he said that he's coming with great sincerity in these negotiations, they bring a delegation, i wish he could have said that he's coming with good faith and great honesty. >> the brilliant kristina said

it exactly right. she nailed it. we're not going to get a marvelous fabulous big deal, we're getting tweets from the president right now. you can overlay them to the tweets he put out every month over the last 18 months. they are all the same. but now we're getting closer and closer to an election, and time is up, and we have to care about the markets and the economy. that's been heading south. manufacturing, so i suspect we'll get something on buying more agriculture. there's not going to be any more higher tariffs, and we may even pull back on some. we're not going to see anything on ip. china is never going to change who they are. that is the one thing i've been standing by from day one, and we're going to stick with that. it is going to be called the greatest deal on earth, but it will be just okay. david: chris? >> well, it will only be the greatest deal on earth if china agrees to the significant structural changes that they previously agreed to. if we could get them to agree to

what they said they would do, what they signed on to in 2001, it would be much better off. in fact, what i would say is there's not going to be any deal. we're not going to be caving. bob lighthizer and president trump are not going to cave to any type of interim deal when they know that china is in a corner and has to eventually make a great deal. >> and chris, there won't be any deal. first of all, let's not underestimate the impact that as gary said all these tweets has on the market. last night the 24 hours last night, you saw the market go up and down over three times 300 points all -- >> exactly. >> so it is having a cost. i have to tell you, i don't think the president wants a deal with china. as gary said, he's talked a big game, but he talks about how they are ripping us off, how we're making money from his tariffs, those are his words and even as he's talking about lifting chinese tariffs, he's adding tariffs on scotch whiskey and french wine. does the president want to get rid of tariffs? >> does china want to get rid of

the tariffs? do they want to play by the rules? [speaking over each other] david: one at a time. >> everybody wants to blame the president. why don't we look at the real bad actor. china doesn't play by the rules. anybody who looks at the facts objectively has to look at president xi and the hardliners in beijing that don't want to play by a very very simple idea that when you keep your word and sign on to something, you agree to a certain agreement, you keep your word. david: the other thing i think jonathan is overlooking and kristina i would like your thoughts on this, the fact is the president does want to get re-elected. we know that's a fact. maybe he claims too much or too little credit for the market depending on what the market is doing any day, but he knows that -- i think he knows he needs some kind of a deal in order to keep this economy -- keep it humming; right? >> to your point, often the

marks and the economy -- often the markets and the economy are used interchangeably. that's not the case. it should not be. we learned that in school. gary, thank you for the shoutout, but i don't think a deal will encompass much more than the agriculture products. maybe there will be something about fentanyl. nobody seems to mention that. david: they claim there's already progress -- >> that's a good thing. overall, like chris and jonathan have pointed out, how can you change a country that has been so embedded in their own ways for so long and got away with it? so yes, kudos to the president for trying to change it but maybe trying to do too much at once especially bringing europe into the picture -- >> i would note that under this administration, not only have we ramped up tariffs, we have also brought to the world's attention the wrongdoing that we perceive china is doing. i think that's been valuable. but secondly we have also gone to the world trade organization. we've also had the fbi arresting chinese people in america who are stealing trade secrets. we have gotten much more aggressive at calling out these bad actors.

and i think that going forward, even if we have a smallish deal, involving commerce mainly, as long as we keep a really hard-line on going after people violating the law, i think that's -- david: we have to quit, but i just want chris to have the final word here because you are our guest, chris. is the president going to end up the day with something in his hand, or at least an illusion to a smaller kind of trade deal, something less than we expected? >> i think there will be an amicable tone tomorrow with the president and vice premiere. unfortunately he doesn't come with the special envoy tight that will he did previously, but -- title that he did previously, but i think there will be something that signals to the market that a goodwill conversation is happening but structural change won't happen tomorrow. david: thank you for being here. turkey attacking a u.s. ally for a second day after president trump pulled troops out of syria. the president just defending the move. we will play you his remarks from moments ago and get

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david: president trump defending his move to pull troops out of syria. turkey attacks a u.s. ally for a second day. here's what he said just moments ago. listen. >> we had a big victory. we left the area. i don't think the american people want to see us go back in with our military, go back into that area again. we won. we left the area. i don't think we want to go back in. let's see what happens. we are going to possibly do something very very tough with respect to sanctions. david: so there is a bipartisan senators pushing for sanctions targeting turkey's president and military. here now is retired lieutenant colonel dakota wood. thank you. the turkish president is actually bragging about killing what he calls terrorists in

syria. aren't the people being killed are allies who helped us destroy the isis caliphate and should we do more to defend that? >> first reports are always wrong. we need healthy skepticism on this. we don't have eyes on the ground. what the turks and kurds are reporting, it takes a while to sort through the details. turkey has had an issue with the kurds since turkey was formed in the 1920s. this is nothing new in terms of the peoples against each other. but i think erdogan's approach here is certainly very heavy-handed >> thank you for joining us. this is christina partsinevelos. do you believe this decision to pull out is reckless on three fronts, the first one being the isis resurgence, the possibility of that, the second front being that you are catching your allies by surprise when we really need to at least keep some allies on our plate and then the third point is the --

[inaudible] -- it seems like a lot of people at the white house were unaware of this move. >> well, people criticize not being aware are usually the ones who wanted to be consulted first. so when they are not part of the decision, then they criticize they weren't part of the process. but i don't think it's reckless. i think that the president talks with his advisors. he usually doesn't get very quick responses or the establishment drags its feet. and he finally makes a decision and moves on. what he's trying to account for are what our interests? we don't want refugees flowing through europe. we don't want this to be a sanctuary for terror groups, and we want some kind of a sanctuary in place for the kurdish people. and i think those can be accomplished without a serious significant u.s. military presence. >> lieutenant colonel, this is gary kaltbaum. thanks for being here. there's one big thing that i just don't understand. we have been told for a long long time, erdogan is just a bad

guy with bad intentions, and it looks like we just put the ball in his hands, and the first thing he does, the first initial thing he does is attacks and kills. we don't know how many. it could be 100. it could be ten, but that's his first move. doesn't that worry you in any way, shape or form that this is the guy that's heading this up at this point in time? >> yeah, he's not making a lot of good decisions. buying the s-400 air defense system from russia, more authoritarian in his rule, imprisoning of senior military officials and academics following the reported coup. he doesn't have a good track record, but turkey as a country has been a longstanding ally that we certainly used as a strategic gateway into the region. so the pkk which is the terrorist element that even our own state department has recognized as such since 1997 has been problematic. they do get some support from factions of the kurds and trying to sort good from bad in that

very chaotic region is difficult. so we hope that he doesn't use violence, trying to understand where his perspective is, but as the president has said, we have a lot of tools to try to rein him in economically and through diplomatic pressure >> another question, it seems -- we all know that president trump is extremely transactional and it seemed to me there was a bargain made where he was going to allow turkey to do this, create this buffer zone, if you will, in exchange for turkey taking hold of and maintaining the tens of thousands of prisoners that are currently interred in syria, which are really a big problem. trump has been asking europeans to take these isis fighters and so forth. nobody wants them. my guess is erdogan said he would do that. do you think that's maybe what happened here? >> in part. a lot of those detention centers are actually outside of the safe zone, whether it's 10 miles or 20 miles in, been part of a debate. but yes a lot of european

countries are criticizing the move. they don't have troops on the ground or skin in game. they won't repatriate their own citizens who came to help islamic state. turkey has been playing host to about 3.7 million war refugees out of syria and not getting a whole lot of assistance from eu or nato allies or anything like that. i can understand there's mounting frustration. the use of military force into these areas to target civilian populations is completely unacceptable. from what the president has said he understands that and wants to try to rein in erdogan's instincts here. >> he's talked about sanctions, but what about something for example like calling for the withdrawal of turkey from nato? you know, the kurds are essentially much more western. they are much more western certainly compared to erdogan and increasingly the islamic turkish government. what about kicking turkey out of nato because of the violence against the kurds? >> that's been interesting. there isn't a formal mechanism

for kicking somebody out. you would have to get the nato members together and decide if you are going to take that kind of extreme step. we have an incident where there's a moment in time against the backdrop of 70 years or so of nato history, so do you want to, you know, do that nuclear, you know, weapon; right, in kicking somebody out when maybe there are other ways to resolve this in a much more diplomatic peaceful economic sort of way? david: colonel, thank you very much for being here. we really appreciate your expertise. please come back and see us; all right? >> great pleasure of mine. david: thanks a million. guess who wrote a new op-ed saying there's one sure fire way for democrats to take down president trump, and it has nothing to do with impeachment. our own liz peek is our special guest next. stay tuned. 2,000 fence posts. 900 acres. 48 bales. all before lunch, which we caught last saturday.

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david: while president trump faces an impeachment probe, liz writes that may not be the direction to go in to beat him in 2020. it is a new op-ed she's written for the hill. and you say impeachment is unlikely to change any votes. i just want to say your piece is excellent first of all. >> thank you. david: you begin with that great market forecaster paul krugman who says what about what's going to happen with the economy? >> the latest piece from paul krugman was here comes the trump slump. it really offended me because it is one of 8 million pieces in the "new york times" and bloomberg and cnbc recently alerting people to the possibility of a slowdown. in august we had more mentions of the word recession in the media that we have seen since 2007. why? that's the way to beat donald trump. if the economy goes into a recession, his odds of being

re-elected are diminished clearly. what could bring us into a recession, lower consumer sentiment, lower sentiment on ceos, they know this is a fragile situation. if you look at the polling on the u.s. consumer who has continued to be very upbeat, sentiments is still extremely high, continuing to spend, continuing to save, etc., you know, there is no recession in sight. david: by the way, that is paul krugman that you are seeing there on the left of your screen. go ahead, jonathan. >> not a halloween mask, that's the real thing. i enjoyed your piece over at foxbusiness.com. you are right, the democrats are rooting for a recession. no question. but devil's advocate here, didn't the republicans basically do the same thing? look the market went up for eight years under obama and every year the republicans said it is funny money. it's the fed printing. you can't believe it. this is just a big bubble. didn't the republicans do the same thing when the economy and the market were booming under obama? >> i think that's a really good point. sure, any time there was some evidence that his antibusiness

administration cause people to pull back in investments we all jumped on that. by the way people are jumping on the same thing with trump right now because what he did in terms of deregulating some important industries and lowering tack rates -- tax rates finally got businesses to invest and now it is waning because of the tariff wars with china. it is very discouraging to me. basically if you want higher wages, you need to have productivity gains. you need to have investment. that's the we were in even a year ago and it does seem to be falling off. but we're not in a recession >> jonathan, thank you very much. i feel like you went exactly the same route i would have been to to add some balance. krugman is an easy target. in your piece you said quote this guy really hates trump. every single article he writes in the "new york times" is the president. he's not a representation of the full democratic party. liz, you talked about -- you talked about every other media

organization, but around the globe, there is a slowdown, even yesterday sure you had the imf head, the new head said the trade war could cost the global economy 700 billion dollars. that's the size of switzerland's economy as a whole. i'm not saying that things aren't doing well right now. but we have to be cognizant of the other factors. i think it's just -- [talking over each other] >> let me do a little bit but. we're at 3.5% unemployment. that's a miracle. that's number one. >> 50 year low. >> two or three days a few weeks ago, if you turned on those certain networks, instead of mueller and russia, it was recession for 24/7, and i will tell you, they all look like they were about to pop the corks off the champagne bottles. [laughter] >> and a couple of days -- listen, i mean this. a couple of days later, i think the market went up 300 points,

and i think they were acting like their dog died. [laughter] >> so there is definitely a move afoot, a hope, a recognition that oh, please, let's have the economy head south so something can change as far as the election, but let's be clear, republicans did the same under obama. welcome to the world of politics. [speaking over each other] >> the media is plain insane on it. david: one slight correction, if you want the see liz's column and you should read it yourself, it is in the hill.com. liz, congratulations. thanks for bringing it to us. as more american companies bow to china's wishes, a tv show is taking a stand. we will play you the choice words "south park" had for the chinese government last night. you may have heard others, but you have got to hear this. that's coming up. lando isn't jue park capital of the world, it also has the highest growth in manufacturing jobs in the us. it's a competition for the talent. employees need more than just a paycheck. you definitely want to take advantage of all the benefits you can get. 2/3 of employees said that the workplace is an important source

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david: "south park" taking stand against the chinese government in its latest episode, airing this last night on comedy central in response to its ban by the government. look and enjoy. >> working for a company that's regulated by a communist government >> okay, okay. no more selling to the chinese. >> then say it. say [ bleep ] the chinese government. >> [ bleep ] chinese government. >> i didn't hear you. >> [ bleep ] the chinese government. there. >> well, you just got your partner back. [laughter] david: they don't have a lot of corporate partners, like the nba, for example. the latest developments there,

the chinese government allowing for the nets and lakers game to be played this morning in shanghai, but cancelling press availability for star players, including lebron james, a cnn reporter was actually blocked from asking houston rockets players about the china fallout from the team's own media relations. the nba has since apologized for that. wouldn't you think that players who are quick to criticize this country could take a cue from "south park" and call out china for what is much worse? >> no pun intended these players were driving to the hoop on this president and this country when it was convenient, but now because of -- i know nothing. i have no idea what you are talking about. i have to look for more information. it is a shame to see. as you say, a cnn reporter was muzzled by just asking simple

questions the players on china. you had espn put up a graphic of china owning the south china sea, pure propaganda also. it is a shame to see it. you know, this was a great opportunity for somebody to say take a screw china and change your ways because we're allowed free speech here. if you don't like it, tough. instead they took a big pass at the free-throw line. >> you can't blame the nba for china's corruption. this is the risk you take as a company when you do business in a nonfree country whether it's venezuela or china in this case. gary, you are right. the nba has missed an opportunity here. they should have gotten the messaging straight from day one. saying look we respect our employees, our partners right to say and speak their mind. we're not going to get involved politics. instead they have gone the other way and they have been an even more detriment to their own brand. they could have had a chance to

be a real american brand here. they are going the other way to their detriment >> aren't we worried this shows the power china has to companies? essentially it's censorship, not only with the cnn reporter, but it's censorship on u.s. soil by the second largest economy in the world that we're fighting a massive trade war. the fact that the nba has bowed down and chosen money over principle may be setting the bar very low and other companies are going to have to follow suit or they are going to continue to follow suit. >> i think this is a metaphor for our evolving relationship with china. i have watched american companies kowtow to china for 20 years, so desperate to get in what they considered the fastest growing and most lucrative potential market in the world. they were right. a lot of them like apple 20% of their revenues come from china now. it's the devil you know. and they are willing to do that. but i do think again all of this is serving to inform the world

and inform the american consumers what we're up against and in terms of investors, they really need to pay some attention to this. when chinese companies come and list in our stock exchanges, people should know that these are not companies that play by the same rules we do. that they are absolutely beholden to the chinese government, whether or not they have investment by the chinese government. it is a very different system and a different kind of country, and i frankly think it's alarming that our companies are so sort of indebted to them. david: scary. >> perfect segway because you bring up the -- perfect segue because you bring up the companies. apple is defending removing a crowd sourcing map service allowing hong kong protesters to track police activity. then you have google removing a game that lets players role play as hong kong protesters. so much to liz's point, do you guys believe that these companies also deserve criticism? and by the way, tiffany just adding another one, took away an advertisement where someone had their hand over their eye

because that's supposed to reference the hong kong demonstrator who had an -- lost an eye because of the police. it is going to go on. >> go ahead, jonathan. >> the tiffany one seemed almost insane, just the fact that a model is covering her eye. that doesn't seem to make a difference. kristina, apple has defended their decision to remove the app saying in effect the app could be used to create more violence and potentially put police officers at harm. this is the risk these companies take in doing business with china. it is not a free society. and they are having to tackle -- david: as gary put in the dollar sign, the nba gets 4 billion dollars a year it's estimated from china. it is all about the bucks and willing to go the distance with china apparently in order to keep the money flowing >> the big bucks. david: the big bucks. warren is vowing to reshape capitalism and big business believes her. former council of economic advisor chair under president obama austin goolsby is here to weigh in on this and a lot more,

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david: elizabeth warren gaining ground now neck-and-neck with former vice president joe bide nn the latest real clear political poll. this as the "wall street journal"'s greg ip says businesses all over the country are bracing for warren's plans to remake capitalism from the ground up with all her proposals. the former council of economic advisors chair under president obama austin goolsby says don't believe the hype. he's quoted in the article saying quote businesses have cried wolf far too many times for that to be taken at face value during a presidential campaign. austin goolsby joins us now. austin, great to see you. thank you for being here. don't you think that liz warren plans to carry through with her policys if elected? >> well my reference was to the business people saying the world is going to end if elizabeth warren is elected, and that is what i was referring to when i said they have cried wolf so many times that given it's an

election year -- david: so you think she will follow through with her plans to reorganize capitalism to go for medicare for all, etc.? >> well, the reorganizing of capitalism as i said to greg ip in that article, she calls for paying attention to more than just shareholders that we have, that business has multiple stake holders. she was attacked by her critics for socialism, and then less than a year later, the business roundtable of the largest companies in the country came out with a statement almost exactly in the spirit of what she had say one year before. now, it's not like i have endorsed elizabeth warren. i haven't taken a position on her versus joe biden. i just think we're in an environment in which corporations got a 2 trillion dollars tax cut, promising to massively increase investment and share the bounty with their workers and increase the growth rate, and none of that happened. so i think she's starting from a

position of strength >> austin, you mentioned the companies are crying wolf, but when it comes to elizabeth warren, isn't she a wolf? all a company can do is offer you a trade, offer you a job, or offer you a product, but warren to david's point is talking about using government force, breaking up companies, wealth tax, don't these companies have a real right to be pretty scared about the prospect of government force in an i les beth warren presidency -- elizabeth warren presidency? >> i don't consider that. as i say, when she talked about the remaking capitalism, it was about paying attention to more than just shareholders, that there were a lot of stake holders, and the business critics said look, that's socialism. she wants to destroy the capitalist system. like i say, less than a year later the business leaders themselves agreed with that. >> we heard that. you would admit that elizabeth warren is talking about very openly about using more government force in private businesses whether it be

breaking them up, wealth tax, regulation. you're saying that companies shouldn't worry about that or their bottom lines? >> well, it is not that i feel nonchalant. it is that i think more aggressive, antitrust to stop monopolies and reraising tax rates on high income after they get a 2 trillion dollars tax cut with very little repay to the economy. i think those are good ideas and they are supported a majority of americans. i don't view that as being anticapitalist at all. >> i know it goes against the grain, but i would like to point out in the fiscal year just ended corporate income tax revenues actually rose 12%, sort of fulfilling the expectations of people who think when you lower tax rates, you actually get more in taxes. however, moving on, and to jonathan's point, replacing boards of directors with 40% of employees, probably union representatives, that's pretty staggering, and i think a lot of people feel like that is a significant change in the way

companies are run an elizabeth warren view of how they should be run. what do you say to that? do you think that's a good idea? >> i would say there's two parts. on the first, go check your numbers because they are not accurate. >> these are government numbers. >> income tax revenue -- corporate income tax revenue has come in more than 100 billion dollars lower than -- david: this is a new report from the cbo, austin. i'm sorry that you were unprepared for that. it is fiscal 2019 increase of 12% in corporate tax revenues. >> it increased 12% and it's 100 billion dollars below what was expected and forecasted. david: 12% above -- >> my guess is most people didn't see that coming. >> these tax cuts have not paid for themselves at all. it's why the tax bill is the most unpopular tax cut in the history of american polling. david: we're going to have to leave it at that. we have run out of time. austin goolsby, you're going to have to come back.

we love the conversation. thanks for being here. you are a good man. let's coming up -- let's see what's coming up on the evening edit. ashley webster is in for liz >> the stakes are rising with the china trade war. we will talk about what to expect tomorrow when president trump meets with one of china's top envoys. also a healthy dose of political intrigue. all coming up at the top of the hour. david? david: looking forward to it. do you have an amazon cloud cam? you may want to listen up because your home security footage may not be as private as you would hope and think. who may be actually watching your clips besides you and your family and why, that's next.

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david: first, alexa now your cloud cam? amazon employees could be actually watching videos taken from inside your home. the camera which links up to alexa allows people to keep an eye on what's happening inside their home 24/7, but according to bloomberg, anonymous insiders say workers at the company in india and romania are watching up to 150, 20 to 30 second clips per day for troubleshooting purposes, they say, and to train artificial intelligence algorithms, they say. now most of your footage intended to be private, how concerned should we all be about this? gary? >> oh, just fabulous. just fabulous. [laughter] >> look, i will just repeat what i've been saying forever. they are data collecting monsters and they have all become stalkers. i shut down my alexa. i felt like it was watching me. i put it in the closet. it is unneither a bunch of laundry -- it is underneath a bunch of laundry and the laundry just sits there. >> now we know that.

[laughter] >> i just don't trust what they have all become. they have become what they said they weren't going to be and now it is the norm. if you accept it, you accept it. i won't. >> unfortunately a lot of people do. we see this with facebook and all other social media platforms because i know when i speak about something, then i will get an ad on instagram. to the cloud cam point, 20 to 30 second videos, and this is to determine according to them a real versus a fake threat. so if a paper is moving in your house, you will get a warning about it. and they have to learn; right? because it is ai technology. but how often are we leaving these platforms? we are choosing convenience over everything else. >> you are choosing actually a service. you know, everyone wants technology to improve, but then when companies actually take steps to improve it, they say oh my god, oh my god, david what you didn't mention is that the company does take some severe security measures. those people who review these short clips are all in a locked private office in india --

david: oh, please, do you believe all that? >> jonathan, we could take a phone and go in there and i could -- i could record 20 to 30 second clips of your cloud cam if i'm there studying it in india. i could do anything with that. >> it would be -- >> i wouldn't do that. >> the same paranoia we have over this type of stuff occurred back in the 90s. we were so scared about putting our credit card on the internet. david: for good reason. >> get hacked all the time. i'm going to channel jonathan and say it is totally up to people if they want to have this product then they have to accept that some of the information, the videos may be misused. david: that's true. we have to move on. tired of having to get creative when transporting fido across town? well uber could soon be throwing pet lovers a bone with a new feature, but is it worth it? our panel who are dog and cat lovers, and we will show you the pictures coming up. you don't want to miss this. ♪

david: uber may be hoping to make life a little less rough for some animal lovers. a new feature called uber pets set to launch in select cities starting october 16th. it's now going to allow riders to bring their furry friends along for rides. riders will have to pay a 3 to 5 dollar surcharge. other ride sharing services such as lyft have a policy that leaves pick ups to the discretion of the driver. jonathan, you have got a dog. is this something you would use? >> absolutely david. i take my dog in uber all the time. look, this is innovation. this is really life -- i've taken -- that's my little puppy. if you try to take him in a new york city taxi cab, they would literally throw you out. this is uber innovating and helping people live their lives at lower cost, a great advantage, not a great stock, but a great advantage for anyone who has a pup like myself.

>> i think that's a good idea. david: gary, we have a picture of your dog too. >> i take my dogs all over the place. they are in my car. they are in my bed. they don't leave me alone. they love me to death. winston and cosmo. winston for winston churchill and cosmo for cosmo kramer, two greatest dogs on earth. david: i love it. i have a little dog. luna, she's only 10 pounds. luna fits inside of a bag. i bring her into cabs and nobody knows the difference when they are there. but the question is, what happens to people who are not dog owners who get into one of these cabs after wards? can you smell it, kristina? >> i have a very sensitive nose so i can smell if you have spray on your body. i can smell everything. according to the website, drivers are responsible for any damages to their vehicles for those cars, and they are -- >> are you going to know? if you get in an uber car, are you going to know?

[speaking over each other] >> put down pads. they put down pads. >> and then they take it off. >> they will figure it out. david: if you are going to buy a dog, buy one 10 pounds or less. we will see you tomorrow. >> no, big, big. ashley: stocks climb on high hopes for tomorrow's key meeting between president trump and a leading chinese envoy. we will be talking to the top official at the u.s. chamber of commerce about just what's at stake for the american economy, american companies, and oh, yes, american jobs. at this hour, the president himself is on the way to minnesota for a rally there later tonight. we are live on the ground there for a preview coming up in just a little bit. to the battle by the way for 2020, elizabeth warren leading the democrats war on capitalism. we will tell you which sectors are in the crosshairs and how they cannot only prepare but how some may flourish believe it or not with an anticapitalism

democrat in the white house.