>> put down pads. they put down pads. >> and then they take it off. >> they will figure it out. david: if you are going to buy a dog, buy one 10 pounds or less. we will see you tomorrow. >> no, big, big. ashley: stocks climb on high hopes for tomorrow's key meeting between president trump and a leading chinese envoy. we will be talking to the top official at the u.s. chamber of commerce about just what's at stake for the american economy, american companies, and oh, yes, american jobs. at this hour, the president himself is on the way to minnesota for a rally there later tonight. we are live on the ground there for a preview coming up in just a little bit. to the battle by the way for 2020, elizabeth warren leading the democrats war on capitalism. we will tell you which sectors are in the crosshairs and how they cannot only prepare but how some may flourish believe it or not with an anticapitalism democrat in the white house.

we will discuss. new polls out on warren and the rest of the democrat field about what fol rx saying about sanders -- folks are saying about sanders health as a voting factor. and where illegal immigrants are most likely to be apprehended on i.c.e. plus another city that says it is done working with i.c.e. i'm ashley webster in this evening for elizabeth mcdonald. "the evening edit" begins right now. ♪ ashley: and of course we have all the angles covered for you, from edward lawrence in washington with the very latest on president trump's meeting with china's vice premiere tomorrow. also gerri willis on the floor of the new york stock exchange on the market impact on the new optimism in trade talks if there is any optimism. let's kick it off with edward >> the u.s. trade representatives in a marathon session with the chinese

negotiating some eight hours inside the u.s. trade representatives office today. they are trying to work out a trade deal between the world's first and world's second largest economies. the chinese would like to see tariffs either suspended or rolled back. the president of the united states says those tariffs are what brought china to the table, and he does believe that the meetings went well. listen. >> we just completed an a negotiation with china. we're doing very well. we are having another one tomorrow. i'm meeting with the vice premiere over at the white house, and i think it's going really well. >> the chinese trade sources tell us that this week the mood soured because of some moves the u.s. government made, but some china experts say that the chinese delegation knows that the moves the government makes are separate than the trade itself. listen. >> the 28 entities being put on the entities list, the visas

issue, these are not part of the trade talks. these were in the works already. so it's not necessarily extra pressure being added today. >> and the white house saying the u.s. trade representative robert lighthizer talked to the chinese delegation about protecting intellectual property rights, also about nontariff barriers and forced transfer of technology, as well as agriculture. now, on that last point, the chinese in the last 24 hours bought 134 million dollars worth of soybeans and a large pork purchase. that's something farmers have been welcoming. now the chinese sources say that they hope to work out a trade deal on the items that both sides agree upon within the trade work framework. lay out a time frame into sometime next year to be able to work out everything else. the trade talks went on eight hours without a lunch break. they had a working lunch, which is something that was scheduled. they had scheduled a lunch break. that could indicate maybe some

progress they made? i don't know. we will have to see what comes out overnight as it develops. both sides now back in their corner. there is that meeting tomorrow with the president here in the white house. i can tell you, that the last time the talks broke down in may, the president did not invite the vice premiere to the white house. there was an invitation now. ashley: maybe that's a positive sign. you have to read the body language as well. great stuff. thank you. to markets now gerri willis at the new york stock exchange with more on today's up day. >> it was a trade-driven rally today with the dow finishing up 151 points. the s&p up 19. the nasdaq up 47. but tomorrow the big day as we await a meeting between president trump and the chinese vice premiere. that happens at the white house tomorrow. we expect stocks to trade on that. but coming into that, we are higher. we did not close at session highs however. trade sensitive stocks really leading the way. caterpillar the biggest mover. meanwhile applications for u.s.

unemployment benefits fell to the first week of october, to a nearly 50 year low suggesting that layoffs still haven't risen much even as hiring and the economy have slowed. initial jobless claims is a rough way to measure layoffs, 10,000 to 210,000 in the seven days ended october 5th. back to you. ashley: thank you very much. joining me now is charles freeman. we're going to talk china, charles. i guess from what edward lawrence was reporting, we should feel a little optimistic. they are talking. the chinese didn't go home early as was rumored at one point last night. what's your take on it so far? they are talking but can we get anything significant done? >> well, i think the optimism in this case is warranted. i mean, we've obviously been talking to the administration for the past week or so and had a chance to sit down with the vice premier yesterday, and the

mood is decidedly upbeat. i think that's a good thing. you know, we think that there's a lot of work to be done, and i'm not sure we're going to get the kind of fully comprehensive deal that i think we need. but i think right now we need some way to effectively stop the bleeding, stop the escalation and set the tone for broader discussions. ashley: so there have been a lot of speculation, if you like, that there will be some sort of mini deal, to your point, there's many big issues to decide and very unlikely to be done in quick fashion. one of those being talked about is maybe a tariff, you know, a deceleration, if you like, of tariffs and the chinese may agree to some sort of currency pact, continue to buy more agricultural goods. is that the kind of deal you're expecting that both sides essentially can save face? >> that's certainly what we're hearing. we have tariffs on 250 billion on goods scheduled to kick in on

october 15th and another 160 billion scheduled on december 15th. so our consumers, our business people, our ranchers and farmers need some relief here. so anything that will help roll that back is good. we are hearing about the agricultural purchase as we have seen some of those as you mentioned, and we've heard there will be some movement on currency. whatever that looks like, we're not sure and some movement on intellectual property rights. so all of that is a good start. i'm not sure i would call it a mini deal as much as a down payment or a confidence-building measure, but, you know, we're certainly looking forward to at this point any incremental progress is progress. ashley: it is something to your point exactly. to talk about those bigger issues, you mentioned, you know, intellectual property theft, false transfer of technology, true access to the chinese markets. these are big things that may indeed need cultural change at the very top in china. how likely is that the united

states will get exactly what it wants? >> well, i'm not sure that anybody ever gets exactly what we want. it's been 20 years since we had a negotiation with china that would establish the terms of engagement on trade. that's when china joined the wto. their economy is a lot different than it was then and ours have changed. it is perfectly reasonable, that we have agreed with the trump administration, the president that it is important to have the indepth discussions to try to reach some comprehensive agreement. whether we'll get there or not and long-term is certainly something we're hoping for, but we don't think it is going to come overnight. ashley: we will have to leave it there. charles freeman, thank you very much. we will see what happens tomorrow when president trump meets with china's vice premier. thank you very much. >> thank you. ashley: to the latest developments now on the general motors strike. fox business is in chicago with the details. grady, any breakthrough? >> well, we just learned that yesterday actually general

motors ceo met with the top negotiators on the uaw side, which is significant because this is the first time that she has been as far as we know involved the negotiations in any way. i'm told the meeting lasted about an hour, and there were five people at this meeting. two of them were gm's top negotiators and barra herself as well as the top negotiators on the uaw side, gary jones who is the president of uaw and the vice president. as far as what was said in these talks and in this conversation, it is unclear, it depends on which side you asked, but i'm told the whole idea was to kind of inject new life into the negotiations. it appears to have done that because remember a couple days ago we told you that talks had kind of hit a wall and stalled out and that continued for several days into this week, but after this conversation, i did find out that negotiators met behind closed doors into the night on wednesday night and actually into thursday morning until about 3:00 a.m. so you know, both sides are growing frustrated as this strike continues.

we're in day 25 now on the union side, some workers are growing impatient because they are only making 250 bucks a week in strike pay. they haven't received their normal paycheck in 25 days. then on the company side, they are losing a lot of money. there are some estimates that general motors has already lost a billion dollars because of this strike, and that's only going to continue as the strike continues. so the whole idea of this meeting with ceo mary barra is to kind of push things along and get the sides back together, back at the main table to keep things going and try to reach a deal in this long strike. ashley? ashley: you were saying 25 days. great stuff, grady, thank you very much. appreciate it for the very latest on the gm strike. to the new fox news national poll now, just out on the democrats race. together joe biden and elizabeth warren capturing the support of more than half of the democratic primary voters. mr. biden stays on top in the race with 32% support. that is up 3 points since

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in. let's see what happens. we are going to possibly do something very very tough with respect to sanctions and other financial things. ashley: that was president trump telling reporters this afternoon that he will take a wait and see approach to syria and his decision to pull out. meanwhile, latest reports have tens of thousands of syrians fleeing their homes as turkish forces ramp up the military offensive on kurdish-held areas. fox's reporter is in jerusalem now with the very latest details. trey? >> ashley, with the turkish military operation underway in northern syria, we are getting reports of civilian casualties on both sides of the border. this morning turkish airstrikes pounded kurdish villages as the syrian democratic forces responded by firing rockets. the turkish artillery units and tanks were also used today as the ground portion of the operation started last night. as clashes continue more condemnation of the military invasion is coming in from around the world.

including in israel where the israeli prime minister netanyahu released a statement voicing his support for the kurds. with the statements new images are coming out today from syria showing civilians injured and killed in turkish strikes. in one video you can hear the grieving families of these victims. each one trying to comprehend what has happened as the assault in northern syria continues. while turkish president erdogan says the operation this week is meant to stabilize syria, military experts say attacking the kurds will do just the opposite. >> translator: since the beginning of the operation, 109 terrorists have been killed so far. just like all the other operations carried out by turkey, the aim of the -- [inaudible] -- is to contribute to syria's territorial and political integrity. >> erdogan is not referring to isis here when he talks about terrorists. he's referring to the kurds. the same kurds that just three days ago were allied with the united states before being

abandoned by president trump. ashley? ashley: trey, thank you very much. let's bring in now, if we can, former delta force member. bret, i know we have talked before. you were in the military. you know the kurds very well. you call them brothers in arms. what's your reaction to what the president has done pulling the u.s. out of this northern syrian region? >> hi, ashley, first let me say that's what's happening to the kurds is a real strategy. the red carpet that we basically laid out for the turks to walk right into syria and set the conditions for a kurdish genocide and displacement is frankly an embarrassment to decades of our foreign policy efforts, efforts by which we built a level of credibility and mutual trust with our allies. i believe that this will be -- go down in history as the president's -- one of his biggest mistakes during his tenure, and the democrats are surely going to use this against him in the next election. i think most americans right now are finally starting to learn what -- how important the kurds

are to our forces down range, and especially how we used them to help break the isis caliphate, but they may not understand the history there. we have been working with the kurds for decades. and i personally worked with the kurdish counterterrorism units well before we started this war against the isis caliphate. many senior level terrorist leaders that my team hunted not just within the islamic state of iraq but also other terrorist groups would not have been captured stopped or killed without the direct help of kurdish forces. they were our brothers in arms and our allieallies. it is terrible to see what's happening here. it is also terrible to see that the u.s. advisors have to stare them at in the face and say there's nothing we can do about it, that their hands are tied because it sounds like the president made this decision unilaterally without taking the advice of the military. ashley: to that point, bret, we heard the president just a few minutes ago, he says that the

united states does not want to fight, quote, these endless senseless wars. he also says that turkey in exchange has promised protection of civilians, religious my minorities and basically an assertion there will be no humanitarian crisis. >> well, we're already seeing that that's not the case here. they have already apparently in 24 hours killed over 100 kurdish fighters. there's no talk of them stopping any of the isis fighters. that's the problem here. the other issue is we are losing our allies in the region quite frankly. this is an area where alliances shift like the wind. we need the kurds. they were that one group that we could count on to be there to help us in our efforts. and if i'm iran right now, i'm sitting here thinking what a great opportunity it is to bring the kurds over on their sides because the iranians and the russians have been pushing this narrative that the u.s. government lacks the credibility

that we are an untrustworthy and unreliable partner to work with, and that's i think the biggest problem here. i'm telling you with what i have seen over the last year with isis prisoners getting released and other attacks still occurring in the region, i can promise you that we are going to have to come back out there and bring a u.s. military force to lead the fight against isis, one day. ashley: you truly believe that isis will reform, if you like, and again pose as big a threat as it did before? >> we are starting to see that already in some of the pockets that were allegedly liberated from isis control. and right now we talk about these isis prisoners. we're starting to see the shelling of these camps where the kurdish fighters have been, you know, holding these prisoners and they have been getting shelled by turkish forces. even before the turkish incursion, there was a problem with isis prisoners. we believe that some point these tens of thousands of prisoners that were sitting there were going to have to be released at some point because these syrian

defense force businesses are overcapacity. the -- defense force prisons are overcapacity. we have switched the attention of the kurds. we have taken them off these prison camps all together. the kurds have already resented the turks. they have always hated the turks but focused their attention on the more immediate threat and that had been isis. now we basically -- we saw just yesterday a statement from the syrian defense forces that said all military operations against isis have stopped within northern syria because of this turkish incursion. we're going to have a problem that's going to reverberate for years now because of this. ashley: i hope that's not the case. certainly not the only one who has been saying this. bret, i'm sorry we're out of time. again, thank you for joining us with your take on what's going on. >> thanks, ashley. ashley: really appreciate it. let's take a look at some of the other stories we are following for you. the number of cases of lung injuries linked to vaping is on the rise. the centers for disease control says the total number of confirmed or probable cases is close to 1300 now.

that also includes 26 deaths. so far alaska is the only state without a reported case. investigators are still tracking the cause of that illness outbreak. apple has decided to pull a phone app that allowed antigovernment protesters in hong kong to basically pinpoint police movements. the company says it was being used to ambush law enforcement. the app used crowd source technology to map out police locations. apple only approved that app last week, after first rejecting it earlier this month. and some passengers on a norwegian cruise are calling their trip a holiday from hell. the boat left southampton england, september 25th. it was bound for a two-week, five country excursion, but poor weather caused many of those stops, at least five to be cancelled. there are also reports of stale food and unsanitary bathroom conditions. some travelers wanting a full refund, but norwegian only offering a discount on another cruise. that ship by the way due back tomorrow. i'm sure the passengers are

happy for that. and finally, who can forget the image of sully the service dog standing by the casket of the late president george h. w. bush? sully was by the side of the president for the last months of his life in 2018. now sully is being honored for his service. the yellow lab will receive the 2019 aspca award for public service in november. sully now comforts wounded veterans of walter reed medical center in maryland. well deserved award for sully. coming up, energy secretary rick perry caught in the crosshairs of the impeachment inquiry. he's being summoned by house democrats. and the state of california, who is picking up the tab for billions? we will head to malibu when we come back. ♪ limu emu & doug

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a new charge in advance of his sexual assault trial. fox news bryan llenas has more. bryan? >> we were anticipating that cuba gooding jr. would begin his sexual abuse trial. today. there was supposed to be a quick jury selection and then opening statemen statements. instead a surprise indictment. gooding now facing new charges related this incident and another incident. the details surrounding the new charges will remain sealed until he's arraigned on tuesday. gooding is already facing two misdemeanor charges of forcible touching and sexual abuse. according to his accuser, gooding groped her breast without consent at the magic hour rooftop bar and lounge near times square on the night of june 9th in new york city. surveillance video obtained by tmz shows gooding and his girlfriend at the time chatting when his accuser walks over and takes a seat next to him. you can clearly see gooding at least place his hand on her left thigh. what happens next is harder to see. but this is where the accuser says he grabbed her breast.

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ashley: well, talking of which, ukrainian president zelensky is set to meet with dozens of journalists from around the world in what is being billed as a press marathon. fox news will plan of course to ask him about the announcement by his country's new prosecutor general who is taking a second look at several corruption investigations. one of the companies on that investigation list is the energy company tied to hunter biden. fox's reporter joins us now. david? >> president zelensky answered questions from reporters for more than 12 hours. most were locally focused, but he could not ignore the international elephant in the room. zelensky was adamant when pressed no blackmail on a call with president trump. he also made the public revelation that he did not know military aid would be held up by the trump administration when he spoke with president trump on july 25th. zelensky says he found out soon after and addressed the issue with vice president mike pence at a meeting in poland about

five weeks later. on september 11th, president trump released the funds to ukraine to fight russian aggression. zelensky is a political neophyte, a famous comedian who came to power vowing to fight longstanding corruption in this country. when asked if president trump was out of line for asking him to investigate his political opponent joe biden, president zelensky said this. >> -- [inaudible] -- we can only support each other and we are thankful for the support, you know. >> president zelensky said several time he doesn't want to get involved in politics in the united states, but he also said that he would look into claims that ukrainian officials tampered with a 2016 elections in the united states. ashley? ashley: david, thank you very much. 12 hours talking to the media. we thought president trump

talked for a long time. wow. the "wall street journal" reporting that the white house gave a politically apointed official the authority to keep aid to ukraine on hold after staff members questioned the legality of delaying those funds. this according to to people familiar with the matter. it does mark the latest shift in the democrats impeachment inquiry. house democrats now asking why a political appointee was indeed given control of dispensing that military aid. former department of justice official tom dupree joins me now. we have a lot to cover here. beginning with that. is your radar go up when you hear that a political appointee was kind of in charge of the funds for ukraine or not? >> it raises questions, let me put it that way. any time you have a situation where you have an administrative duty that's carried out by career civil servants and then the authority to perform that duty is transferred to a political appointee, the question arises, well, why did they do that? there could be a reasonable

explanation for why the administration did it, if in fact, they did it. but i suspect that the democrats will view this as a way of taking the whole ukrainian aid situation out of the hands of people who have historically had it and who might ask questions, who might be potentially whistle-blowers and give that authority to a political appointee. ashley: also a development today, two associates tied to rudy giuliani arrested as they were trying to leave the country, charged with campaign finance violations. i think essentially accused of funneling money through a corporation they set up here and putting that money towards political action committees, in other words, trying to influence the elections. your thoughts on that? >> well, for one thing, i'm glad to see that the sxwrus 'tis department is taking -- justice department is taking these sorts of campaign finance violations seriously and prosecuting them even though they are as alleged people supportive of the president. i think it is good to see the doj being impartial and going ahead with the prosecution.

it raises question who else would have known, people are asking if rudy giuliani was involved. we are a ways off on that. we will have to reserve judgment as to whether there was broader conspiracy here and let those facts develop as they will. ashley: let's get back to the infamous phone call now. there is no explicit link and i'm looking at it right down the middle, no explicit link between the investigation into the bidens and that military aid. if there were, we would hear more about it what is your take on it? >> i think that's right. look, i think the fact is with regard to the transcript, the democrats over played their hand a bit. i think they led the american people to believe that there would be an explicit quid pro quo and there wasn't in the transcript. to be clear, i don't think what the president did was completely appropriate as the white house counsel said, but i think the white house is correct that there is no evidence of a smoking gun quid pro quo in that transcript. that's right. ashley: do you think he survives any -- or this impeachment effort? >> well, there's a long way to go. you know, i think that we're

going toe see at least a very aggressive -- we're going to see at least a very aggressive effort by the democrats to bring witnesses up to testify, to develop evidence. the white house's initial indication at least is they will try to block any effort because they don't view this impeachment inquiry as fundamental legitimate. ashley: we will have to leave it there. tom dupree, great stuff. thank you for joining us. tonight president trump will be hosting a rally in minneapolis, minnesota, hoping to return that state red of course for the 2020 election. fox news's kristen fisher is on the ground with the details. kristen? >> hey, ashley. this is president trump's first campaign rally since democrats launched their formal impeachment inquiry, and he's doing it in a deep blue city of minneapolis. this is democratic congresswoman ilhan omar's district, the city's democratic mayor is trying to get the trump campaign to pay about half a million dollars in security costs for security fees associated with tonight's rally, and there are big protests planned just outside. in fact, some of them have

already started. but the trump campaign believes that this is a state that president trump can win in 2020. he lost it by less than 2 points in 2016. and so the trump campaign has already put about 20 people on the ground, and they hope to have up to about 100 before election day. >> i think we can win. it's been a long time since a republican won. we have a line right now in minnesota that's many blocks lo long. i think i can win minnesota. i think omar is helping us win in minnesota as in other places. >> here's a look at the line that president trump was just referring to. thousands are now inside the toyota center, waiting for the president. he's going to be introduced by the vice president who right before the rally is planning to meet with the head of the minneapolis police union, after the city banned off-duty officers from wearing their uniforms at tonight's rally. so it's something that president trump will likely touch on

tonight along with his ongoing feuds with the city's democratic mayor and congresswoman ilhan omar, but the big thing to watch here tonight is how president trump defends himself against the impeachment inquiry. we have heard him talk a lot on twitter. we have heard him to talk to reporters. but this will be the first time we get to hear him make that case in front of his supporters. ashley? ashley: kristen fisher, great stuff. thank you very much. huge crowd there in minneapolis. we will have more on that throughout the evening. thank you, kristen. coming up, american businesses coast to coast bracing for a potential war on capitalism. we will tell you who is leading that charge and what is the plan to strike back. also later in the show, we will tell you where i.c.e. is apprehending the most illegal immigrants and the staggering spike behind those numbers. we will be back. from the couldn't be prouders

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ashley: guess what? we have the great lou dobbs joining us now with a preview of what's coming up next on his show. lou, the president in the belly of the beast tonight in minnesota. lou: absolutely, and they are lining up we're told for miles. ashley, our exclusive interview tonight with national security advisor robert o'brien, on the president's decision to withdraw our troops from syria and the reaction of our nato allies, russia, iran and of course rino

republicans on capitol hill and u.s. china trade talks concluding tomorrow. china wants a small deal, a short-term deal. translation they mean to keep stealing trillions of dollars from the united states in intellectual property and technology, while threatening the united states. bill gurtz will join us. the latest on the radical dems, former federal prosecutor, fox legal analyst gregg jarrett and ed rollins all with us in a matter of moments. it is worth waiting for. ashley? ashley: it certainly is. it is hard to get all that within one hour but you will do it, lou, i know. thank you very much. lou: thanks, ash. ashley: what critics are saying are certain democratic candidates like elizabeth warren waging war on capitalism from multiple fronts. the "wall street journal"'s chief economics whcommentator talked to charles payne about it this afternoon after writing a piece titled elizabeth warren

vows to remake capitalism and businesses are bracing. take a listen. >> i think all democrats in the past who ran for president or who became president they more or less accepted the fundamental structure of our capitalist economy as it was but they wanted to take the outcome of that economy and redistribute them so they would call for more transfers to the poor, the middle class and higher taxes on the rich. ms. warren doesn't want to stop there. she wants to remake capitalism entirely, significantly reduce the size and influence of big business, impose regulations that fundamentally alter the balance of power between business consumers and government. that's the sort of program that business has never seen from a front-runner before. ashley: never before. with us to talk about is joel griffith of the heritage foundation. joel, i mean, listen, this country's economy right now frankly is the best in the world. the only game in town where money is coming in to it. it's built on capitalism. it is built on a free market. what would elizabeth warren do to that if she became president?

>> it is right out there in the open with this plan and the accountable capitalism act. this would be a structural remake of capitalism. in fact, i don't think it's fair to even call it capitalism. i think two of the most important proposals she has on the books is actually dictating to companies who their board members will be. she wants 40% of those seats to be reserved for other people other than who the share holders actually want. that is very troublesome. you are taking control of companies and giving it to those to whom the state, the government thinks should be in control. that's not call capitalism. second of all, she would actually enable those who aren't shareholders to bring lawsuits against these companies for violating newly-created interests. we're not talking about going after companies for bad -- for being bad actor. we are talking about a whole new slew of special interests that will now be able to handcuff the ability of these businesses to make our economy a more

prosperous place. these are dangerous times ahead if these plan were to move forward. ashley: not only affecting the businesses in the way they operate, both warren and sanders it is all about taxing the wealth. taxing wealth registry i think bernie wants. what does that do to those people in this country who are rich, they have been successful, do they just go somewhere else and take their money with them? >> well, some of them are going to do that. there's a plan for that too. there's going to be an attempt to stop them for leaving with the capital. bernie sanders plan has an exit tax that would confiscate close to half of that wealth if they dare leave. most importantly it is not just that you are going to hit the wealthy. we are going to suffer on that as well. it is an attack on all of us, because it is that capital that enables businesses to grow. it enables technology to develop. it enables pharmaceutical breakthroughs that help all of us, not just the wealthy. we can see what this does on an extreme level by looking to our neighbors to the south like cuba

and venezuela, but we also know what this does in less extreme circumstances. look at across western europe, where for the most part they're less well off than our typical families. disposable income is less. unemployment is higher. that's what we have to look forward to here. ashley: joel, you know, as a campaign platform, it has legs, especially for the youngsters here. you talk about free college and free healthcare, free everything, it starts to sound attractive, they can never give you an answer on how they will pay for it, i guess fax the wealthy and big -- i guess tax the wealthy and big corporations. as a campaign message, it can be effective. >> we have added up all these proposals. to the tune of nearly 92 trillion dollars on the high end over ten year. guess what? if you were to tax every single dollar away from those who make $200,000 plus, i'm talking confiscate every dollar, impose a wealth tax, you don't come close to paying that bill. you want to pay that bill? you need to impose european

style taxation. you are talking about in france for instance a 56% payroll tax, higher income taxes. the poor and the middle class are going to pay for these so called freebies. ashley: yeah, we have to leave it right there. well said, joel. thank you very much for joining us. we really appreciate it. >> thank you. ashley: coming up next, another city breaks with i.c.e. saying we're done helping you. we will tell you which one and why, next. it's been reported that there's a cyberattack on business every 39 seconds. ouch. i don't even want to think about it. comcast business has a solution. we go beyond fast with a cloud-based security system that automatically updates, so you always have the latest protection. phishing. malware.

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ashley: the dallas news reports that illegal immigrants in north texas are more likely to be arrested by immigration officials than any other region in the united states. joining us now, sheriff of cochise county in arizona. thank you so much for joining us. for a while there the battle at the border. the immigration, the surge of immigrants was headlines every day. it hasn't been that way for a while. can you bring us up to speed on

how the influx of immigrants has been affected by what you and others are doing? >> you go back the first nine months of this year. we are hitting one million crossing our southern border. 141 countries have come into the united states on the southern border. a lot of people don't know about that. you look at 1,100 gang members have been identified on the border. 200,000 of these people who come to the border ever been released into our communities. all this is a recipe for a disaster on quality of life in our communities. texas is doing the right thing. they are working together. i commend texas for working with our federal partners. ashley: dallas and north texas, they honor those retainer requests. you look at the sanctuary

cities. i was looking at stories out of seattle and maryland. multiple arrests all the way up to murder. they are released. they never tell federal authorities and they are back into the community threatening everybody's safety. i can't understand why city officials in the sanctuary cities are allowing this to happen. >> i agree 100% with you. i have been vocal in the fact the sanctuary cities are eroding the division of low law and law enforcement. sheriffs, police chiefs, federal, we have taken an oath of office to support the constitution and enhance the quality of life. sanctuary cities are hidden agendas for criminals. aggravated felons hiding in our cities, and there are tragedies throughout the country. ashley: i understand there is

quite an advancement in the building of the wall. is that helping? >> it does help. you talk to any sheriff or federal official on the southern border will tell you it does help. i say it every time. we have to have congress start supporting our southern border, our cbp federal agents. this mission is tough and tireless. our federal congress elected leaders have not done that. this is a byproduct of not securing our southern border. >> as you said, it's a difficult job under strenuous circumstances. yet you turn up every day and everyone like you to do your best. thank you for joining us this evening. thank you, everybody for watching. lou dobbs is next right here on

fox business. [♪] >> good evening. u.s. and chinese strayed delegations meeting in washington and the markets moving up on investor optimism about the conclusion of these trade talks. what happens next. president trump meets with china's you vice premiere tomorrow. but he he says china wants only a small deal. what will the president do? keeping his promises and ending the endless wars. president trump today