hewlett-packard, hp, to oracle. that was some time ago. now reuters is reporting that he has passed away. the stock is down a little. my time's up. neil it is yours. neil: very sad, stuart, thank you very, very much. if we get anything more on the passing we'll of course keep you posting. a week of deals widely touted but suddenly now on very shaky ground. that cease-fire in question as fighting now continues in syria and turkey isn't doing everything it said that it would. brexit is close but still very much up on the air. that gm strike everyone thought was over, it is not over. there are a lot of big ol' details yet to resolve. china saying no deal until the tariffs go. we say the tariffs won't go. so that is no deal. so the deals so widely touted now at the risk of being overtouted? first to the cease-fire where the firing has not ceased.

blake burman at it white house with more on that. reporter: neil, there are details coming out of northern syria that the cease-fire is not holding up as you say. one non-governmental organization telling fox earlier this morning that 30 people were injured by force house are backed by turkey. just moments ago the president announced on twitter that he has spoken with the turkish president erdogan today. it was a lengthy three tweets. let me tick through them, neil. the president just tweeted the following says he has spoken with erdogan. he told me, this is the readout from the president, quote, there was miner sniper and mortar fire quickly eliminated. very much wants the cease-fire or pause to work. likewise the kurds want it. the ultimate solution to happen. next tweet the president goes on to say there is good ill with on both sides and a chance of success. third fine tweet, president says i notified some european nations willing for the first time to

take the isis fight that's came from their nations. this is good news but should have been done after we captured them anyways. big progress being made. that from the commander-in-chief moments ago. neil, there is much criticism ahead of the president's direction as to how he has handled this situation in northern syria. specifically removing the u.s. troops from that area, which allowed many say, those turkish fighters to go in. the stance from the white house, turkish fighters were going in regardless. that the u.s. troops were if harm's way. congressman dan crenshaw, a republican, former navy seal, veteran of iraq and afghanistan as well responded to the president's tweets this way. listen. >> if we can get european allies to take isis fighters, great. that sounds wonderful. no criticism there. but you know, reality of strength of our hand has been diminished as soon as we pulled

out and let other forces take on our bases, instead of doing it in a controlled, strategic manner. reporter: the strength of our hand has been diminished, from a republican in congress. there are questions whether or not neil, the turkish president erdogan got about everything he wanted. aboard his plane earlier today, secretary of state mike pompeo who was involved with the negotiations gave an interview with "politico." he said the leverage point was additional sanctions the u.s. would be putting on turkey. he said that led to the cease-fire. pompeo telling powe lit tow -- poet lit co, following, we're still engaged with the sdf fighting isis in syria. bottom line, additional fire in the area. the president says he has spoken with the turkish president about it. neil. neil: blake burman, thank you my friend. meanwhile retired brigadier general anthony tata on turkey

and testing president's patience. what do you make of whether turkey blinked or the president blinked, where are you on this? >> neil, we really need a dispassionate analysis of the whole situation because emotions are running so high on both sides of the aisle on several different countries. the way i see it, not too dissimilar from the whole bosnia intervention, which had the dayton accords. i can remember being in bosnia, late 95, early 96. the accords were in place. troops were in place. troops were supposed to be breaking contact. there was fighting going on for months. so what i see is along this border, you will have pockets of fighting still happening. the kurds, the sdf, is a far more practiced and efficient combat organization, given the amount of combat they participated in, in the last several years. and their command-and-control is tighter. so they probably were able to put out the word and lock down

their troops in a more fish enway than perhaps the turks who are not as efficient, not as practiced, not as good as the kurds. so i think that might be some of what is happening here. miscommunication and then, you know, in the bigger picture, neil, we have to look at you know, i think it was mentioned right before i came on that, there is debate whether or not this was green-lighted or this was, getting troops out of harm's way. u.s. troops out of harm's way. because the turks were coming no matter what. and i sort of fall in the second camp there. that the president's first priority is to make sure that american soldiers are safe and that we are accomplishing strategic interests at the same time. and, yeah the president almost, what, 10, 11 months ago, communicated he wanted to leave here. so i am sure that my friends in dod have been working on plans

for complying with commander's intent, the president's intent to get out of syria. neil: they were surprised at general, you are closer that he did it so quigley. the evidence made it clear he want to pull out of the region entirely, but the timing was one that shook them? >> yeah. so, neil, what i would say to that, last december, he said we're leaving. so that gave dod leaders 10, 11 months to, you know, nine, 10, months to figure it out. i'm sure a lot of work was going on there. and perhaps, perhaps the turkey move precip stated this, necessitated troops out of there. that is where i come down on this. so i think, that we all need to rise above the situation, kind of look at it from very objective standpoint. we're preserving american troops. we are complying with the president's commander's intent

to get out of syria in a phased way. we still have troops in syria. nobody is really talking about, we still have troops there. neil: moving a little further south i guess. general, all good points. i appreciate you taking the time. have a good weekend. >> you too, neil. neil: another brexit deal could be breaking apart with unanimous european support in britain. it is another matter. the british prime minister, banking on some of his enemies helping his cause. ashley webster in london. what does it look like? >> what could go wrong with that scenario, neil? could boris johnson bring the brexit purgatory to an end. he says he can. he needs 320 votes in parliament tomorrow. very unusual sitting of parliament on a saturday. only fourth time that happen since the beginning of world war ii. it will be a real battle inside there. he was 287 conservatives who we

assume will vote for him. he has to find 33 other votes. deutsche bank says their prediction is 55% chance that it will fail. that is the bookie's seen on this. they believe the plan tomorrow will fail. you never know with boris, if it fails he will have to ask for extensions. he could refuse to call for delay. that could end up in court. or call for general election if the plan fails. we'll have to wait and see. if it goes through by some miracle then the uk would be out of the eu on october 31st. northern ireland stay in the uk customs union but northern ireland will remain in the eu single market. that could be a big stumbling block. we've been here so many times before, but could boris work magic and get those 320 votes tomorrow. we'll see. don't count him out, neil.

neil: his career proving naysayers wrong. ashley, there is possibility vote doesn't go this way, they push this off, they delay it? >> well, listen, by law that was passed by parliament he has to ask for a delay. boris johnson somewhat strangely, either way we're going to leave on october the 31st which is the very face of that law. what has he got up his sleeve? we don't know. ultimately he may be forced to eat his words and ask for that extension. i got a feeling, neil, i don't know what it is, there is something, a little bit of drama left to come that could get the plan over the line. maybe not. we'll see. neil: you've been prescient before. ashley webster in the middle of that. we figure he has a british accent. so we put him on the story. stocks are absorbing all the body blows this week, calm fashion, it is really not that bad. we're still point 1/2% 1/2 away

from all-time highs, certainly on the s&p 500 and the dow. why is that? why is the market sort of held up with all of these cross current? "barron's" editor-at-large, "barron's roundtable" host jack otter. jack, markets climb a wall of worry and we have thrown disproportionate halt of worries and they keep buying. >> our friend tina. there is no alternative. would you invest in dynamic growth of europe or japan? a lot of advisors i hear this phrase over and over again, the best house on the bad block. neil: you don't have to invest in any houses, put the money in mattress or buy treasury notes and bonds. but they're to the doing that. >> if cash was attractive alternative, bonds were attractive alternative they

might very well. central banks around the world are lowering rates, to force us into riskier assets, improve wealth effect and improve growth. they may have inflated assets that would cause a problem analogous what we saw with houses, but right now it is pretty good. what i would warn people is that if you look back at the past 10 years, it is 15% annualized growth. that is how great, u.s. stocks, not the rest of the world, u.s. stocks. that is how incredible the market has been. that is simply not sustainable. i'm not saying that is sustainable but you double your money every five years. that will not go on forever. neil: you could have the 10-year period prior. you make the argument, average it all out. when you pick and choose dates. >> if you follow that cycle, the next 10 years will not look so great. rob, is a smart guy, he looks in his crystal ball, he says 2.6% a year on average for u.s. large

cap stocks. neil: when they do that, i have heard these kind of numbers before, jack, do they factor in reinvested dividend, all of that? >> that's a good question, no. that is not a portfolio. that is what the index would return. so you would do better. also you would do better in a balanced, well-diversified portfolio. the bad 10 years you talked about, if you had foreign stocks, bonds, gold, commodities you actually did a lot better than so-called -- neil: depending on the time horizon, what you're willing to take. >> stick with it. leave the money in there, but be prepared for lower returns. neil: what do you have coming up on 10:00 your fine show. >> two very different, you're neil. nome is the ceo of waze which people may use to avoid cops on the highway. it does a lot more than that really interesting guy. a guy named bill nygren long

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strong shopping season this is a bit of anomaly. nevertheless pouncing issues today with the dow down 150 points. china says lift the tariffs now or we have no deal but are they in a position to make demands especially coming off a quarter that was the slowest since 19992. to john treanor what he makes of that. until those mid-december tariffs are lifted. we can't sign on this. along come as weak economic report like this. what do you think? >> well to agree with your point, the chinese are actually in a very strong position. first of all we actually liked that slower gdp number this morning. the chinese are trying to, you know, work out some of the dislocations, the excess debt in their economy. so a slower china is actually better for the global economy right now. from a trade standpoint, we could get into a political

conversation but i think president trump might actually need that trade deal more than the chinese. so i think the chinese are in a very good negotiating position right now. we would love to see a trade deal done. get that signed. that would take a lot of the negative pressure that is goes on in the market right now. take a lot of that pressure off. so we would love to see that deal done. the chinese are in a good position. neil: just their whole demean nor through the talks i found interesting. a slowing china, we don't know the reliable numbers, they share them, when i tell people my weight, most people say, whatever you say, neil. i do wonder in their case, whether that could get us to say, let's make a deal fast? they have got to be in a strong position to make good on commitments to buy a lot more things from us. if things are slowing down that would be a worry? >> you're correct. that 6% number is probably a

little inflated. but they're still growing. neil: right. >> where we see the real damage in the slowing china, not so much the chinese economy, we're actually underweight emerging markets because the chinese, if you go through the numbers that were reported this morning, they're importing less. and they buy from a lot of emerging market countries. we underweighted emerging markets, because if the chinese get the sniffles emerging markets get pneumonia. we think bigger damage is in other countries, not necessarily the chinese right now. neil: so going forward here, china, do you think they will stick to that? they don't sign anything until the december tariffs are put aside? >> i think they're going to play hard ball. i think they're really going to play hard ball. they're taking a look at this, they're saying, they're looking at the election results or election poll numbers, i would think they're going to play hard ball. there could be a compromise.

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it -- neil: just use the standard door that opens and closes a lot. i see what you're saying. >> right. but my point is that there is an upside to turn over and that is sometimes it is a function of accountability. when people are in high-profile political appointee jobs, there is a lot of pressure on the jobs for good reason. they're supposed to serve the people of the united states, serve the press, at the pleasure of the u.s. president. if they're not doing a job, some scandal a problem how they're executing the president's agenda, he should have the ability to replace them. that is why we do see a lot of turnover in corporate america. neil: i hear you. do you ever think there is something whether they want to be in that pressure cooker? that they see what happens when an official leaves the administration, whether john bolton or, jim mattis at defense and they're ripped apart after the fact, so much so, that mattis responds last night, to

joke back at the president and and sing for him for lag of military experience. >> they know that going in, why it may be difficult to find the right candidates to keep right candidates of these jobs. there is a problem in the administration, and administrative state in particular, some bureaucrats are too difficult to fire. they're not exposed to the same level of public scrutiny. people who work in these departments led by different cabinet secretaries who are political appointees, people being in washington far too long. even though high turnover can be a negative thing. it could also be the case people in government jobs who have a lot of power as bureaucrats actually don't have the same level of turnover and aren't being replaced in order to, sort of execute the will of the

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she is very frustrated with your new policy not being willing to police truth in advertisements, political advertisements and basically asking how could facebook in good conscience take money for ads, allow them to be posted if they know the information that a politician is putting forward is false? >> look i think in a democracy it is important for people to see for themselves what politicians are saying and, political speech is some of the most scrutinized speech that is out there so that is already happening and our position on this is not an outlier. neil: that looks to be a revealing interview. mark zuckerberg defending facebook's political ad role as the feud between elizabeth warren intensifies. see that on dana perino's show on fox news. it is raising hackles in the technology community and beyond because he is in a battle with republicans and democrats. tech analyst shana glenzer on that. what do you make of this?

>> the key establishing a lot of pushback on both sides of the aisle for, for his comment. and what we've seen here is him doubling down obviously on the idea of free speech, saying thinks like, you don't want to live in a world where facebook gets to decide what is true. at the same time i think a lot of us we also don't want to live in a world where facebook is putting political ads in our face every day and every moment we log on. but that is the reality we're living with. a lot of what he is saying feels removed from the reality that facebook itself has created within this political environment. neil: you know i look at the stocks here that are affected, particularly facebook, for all the harumping of political washington, republicans don't think he is fair and balanced democrats think he is too big for his britches, the stock is up 43%. i'm thinking investors must not

be thinking anything comes of this. if they are, that a breakup would actually be a profitable development. i don't know which it is. but it is untouched by this. >> i think that you've nailed that, with that commentary. also look, facebook has instituted policies in the past to address misinformation. what, and so sometimes, what mark zuckerberg says in a, georgetown, you know, speech isn't what facebook ends up implementing from a policy perspective. we aren't sure yet, he hinted new policies are coming, around political advertising. they're not here yet. perhaps there is some optimism from you know, from shareholders or even stakeholders in the company, would be more nuanced approach that you land on, whether impassioned speech yesterday. neil: would it make a difference, whether donald trump is reelected or say elizabeth

warren comes in for facebook, from zuckerberg himself? >> there was that recording that got leaked where he, you know, showed a little bit of concern about lawsuits or, what might be headed his way if warren was in the white house. i think that you know, we're certainly a long way off to make any of those predictions. neil: yeah. >> there will be continued ongoing scrutiny and hearings and, appearances in washington by zuckerberg and executives at facebook. i don't think whoever is in the white house, that is not going to end. neil: shana glenzer, thank you very much. before i get to my buddy charlie gasparino, the corner of wall and broad. we're down 190 points. charlie brady covers wall street like the back of his hand, boeing and j&j account for 2/3 of this selloff down about 190

points. the boeing revelation in a reuters report that workers there were essentially duping the faa on problems with the 737 max. this goes back years. johnson & johnson, might be continuation of the exposure to all the opioid settlements and how much it will cost j&j. those two together are accounting for the lion's share of this selling. another charlie as in gasparino on wework. what we're looking there. >> a bailout and i will say this, this is a big story not just because it's wework. if wework which is office leasing company, it is in every major city, all over new york, if they don't get a bailout, when i talk to real estate people, the prices of commercial real estate in cities, even tertiary cities, take out new york and los angeles, they will be hit if this thing goes under. there is a lot riding on the bailout. here is what we know. jpmorgan, big investment bank is

leading a bank loan effort for a bailout for cash infusion up to $5 billion. what sources tell fox business network, as many as 100 potential investors are interested doing this. neil: in doing what. >> putting money into a five billion dollar bank loan. they have got interest. here is what we don't know. we don't know if that interest is a firm commitment. one problem with this. shows how difficult, jpmorgan was supposed to announce this thing today. they are now giving us, they're basically telling us it take another week. that means they still are trying to get interest in that bank loan to bail them out. we should point out bankers believe that wework can last through november on their current cash position. meaning they don't go insolvent until the end of november. neil: they have got another month. >> sounds crazy, but they have got some time. as we reported last night,

softbank may put in a lot of money. they're already into it. they may do another $5 billion taking controlling interest. wework does not want that. they would rather go with the bank loan, retain current management. do the ipo after they restructure in about a year. that is where we are. the rubber is meeting the road here. could be this weekend. could be next week. clearly, they have feelers out. people are interested in wework, to invest, particularly in lending money. but the fact they don't have firm commitment tells you something. neil: someone has to jump first, right? >> what happens if they don't get any of this? we will probably go out of business, okay? if softbank doesn't put money which they will probably is, guess what, softbank is into them for a lot. like donald trump in 1990. they bailed him out. neil: when you owe a lot of money the banks own you.

>> this is wasser arafat did this. neil: meets "gq." delicious. meantime, not so fast. gm settlement with the uaw. last time we checked they're still out there picketing. grady trimble in the middle of it all in detroit. grady. >> there is a deal. but workers are still on the picket line, because the union leaders across the country who gathered in detroit yesterday, they will keep them on the picket line until they have their voices heard. until they vote on the tentative agreement. john is one of the people who will be voting on the agreement and you told me you're going to vote yes. why is that? >> there is no concession give backs on the contract. it's a good contract. we're able to keep the health care, affordable health care where there was no large co-pays. we got a 3 and 4% raise over the four years. so yeah, everything is looking

good. reporter: you like the contract. the uaw said it is a good deal. gm wants it passed quickly. there are some workers, specifically those who live in towns or used to live in towns where plants are closing don't like it as much. what do you say to the people who might consider voting no on this which would keep the strike going even longer? >> i do feel for my union brothers and sisters in lordstown, in warren, baltimore. i hope gm keeps promise playing everybody. they will disrupt families. they have to move. i understand that i feel for them. reporter: all right. we'll have to wait and see on the vote. neil. send it back to you. earliest workers could get back to work is a week from tomorrow. back to you. neil: grady, thank you very much. take you to the white house. the president had a chance to talk to the two female astronauts who had joint spacewalk but he is taking questions from reporters. >> i heard schiff, no, no, we don't want to talk about that,

we don't want to talk about that but he talked about it. that is one of the things. this is a terrible witch-hunt. this is so bad for our country. i spoke to president erdogan with turkey. we're doing very, very well with turkey. there is a cease-fire or pause, whatever you want to call it. there was some sniper fire this morning. there was mortar fire this morning. that was eliminated quickly. and they're back to the full pause. we have isis totally under guard. turkey is also guarding separately. they're watching over everything. so you have the kurd who we're dealing with and very happy about the way things are going, i must say. the kurds and you also have the turks watching secondarily, watching, who we have isis under control. we have taken control of oil in the middle east. the oil we're talking about. the oil everybody was worried about. we have, u.s. has control of that. and there are no shots being fired. and a lot of people are doing a

lot of things. this deal should have been made 15 years ago. 10 years ago, over the last number of years under the obama administration. the real number is over a million people were killed. we have lost no, not a drop of blood since we've started what i have started. and it was so far, it is working out. it is complicated region. many, many people have gone down. i have to watch in great interest as i see people talking about what we should be doing. these are the same people that have been failing for the last 20 years. didn't know what they were doing especially went in and did what they did they shouldn't have been there. we're doing a very, very significant amount of great work. we'll see if it works. it is very fragile. it has been fragile for years. they have been fighting each other for centuries, literally for sendties they have been fighting each other. we injected ourselves in the middle of it. we won't go into whether or not

that was good thing or a bad thing. you know how i feel about it but we've had tremendous success over the last couple days. a little bit unconventional. a little bit of hard love, i told you that. a little, was a lot, a lot of pain for a couple of days. sometimes you have to go through some pain before you can get a good solution but the kurds are very happy about it. president erdogan and turkey is satisfied with it and we are, in a very strong position. we are also in a position where we could put tremendous powerful sanctions on turkey or whoever else we want to. our country is a financially much stronger country than when i took it over. china would have been the strongest economy in the world, number one economy in the world. right now china is way behind us. we picked up trillions of dollars in value and worth. they have lost trillions and trillions of dollars.

had the worst year they have had in 57 years. we're working with china very well. we've done subject to getting it signed, i think it will get signed quite easily, hopefully by the summit in chile where president xi and i will be. a lot of good things are happening. farmers are taken care of. bankers and financial services are going to have access the likes of which they have never had to. the largest or second largest, depending on your definitions, about 1.4 billion people, population, india or china, they're pretty close. we've done some great things. so we had, but i want to say, i want to thank the people of dallas, the people of for the wort, the people of texas, because yesterday because it was incredible. i want to thank bernard arnault one of the great businessman doing something that was a first. he built a incredible plant in our great state of texas and

they're going to make super luxury and super product. they have already started. it's opened. a big investment. we're very proud of it. that was done with me and with the election, with even prior to the election i see you have to open up a plan someplace in the united states. he said what do you think about texas? i said i love texas. that would be good. i said if you do it i will be there. so i fulfilled that commitment. but he opened up a beautiful plant. we think over a thousand people will soon be working there. thank you all very much. yesterday was a good day. we had a great talk with president erdogan and going very well. thank you very much. [report earth shouting questions] neil: just monitoring that. want to correct something just to be very, very clear. the president says that turkey is in full paws honoring its commitment to sort of cool it in northern syria. those are not the reports we're hearing including a number who

said the temporary halt is itself not a full halt. u.s. officials have told monitor, that reports emerged of ground fire, artillery attacks against kurdish fighters that continue, civilians in a city where american and turkish forces quoting here, recently were having joint patrols. also was quoted a former syrian backed democratic force official, turkish violation of the deals are rampant. that the kurdish dominated group agreed to abide by but the turks are not. this prompted hundreds to relocate and avoid the oncoming and still incoming fire. we'll have more after this. i've been plotting to destroy you. sizing you up... calculating your every move. you think this is love? this is a billion years of tiger dna just ready to pounce.

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september 9th. it is hardest secret to keep it from a month, from friends, family. how was your trip? did you get on the price is right. no, no. it is great. sat in the audience. great show. cool to see taping. very tough to give it a secret. neil: we should explain on this show, you just guaranteed to be in the audience. if you get there, sitting in audience. choosing four people. you were the fourth. >> completely random. you get there, you wait in some lines get into the show, it is actually completely random. luckily the fourth person to come on down. neil: you had to give the price of a necklace right? >> guess the price of a necklace. first two people bid really high. no way it is that high. next guy bid $800. i should have went01. my brother would kick my but for not going 801. bid 900. i'm sure i got it. got it correct. neil: come closest without going over? >> that is pretty much most of

the game shows, getting close without going every. neil: you get to run up right? >> yes i get to run up. neil: a lot of physical activity. >> you're running around, getting excited. meet drew carey who is an awesome guy. he is. drew, love to have you at a red bulls game. you're seattle guy. we play plinkco. neil: you hit the jackpot. >> the first chip,. neil: 200,000. >> it didn't register. i looked down, oh, my god i hit it. i threw my hands up, got really excited. neil: go book to your wife, she is one jumping up and down. maybe you didn't win all the activity. >> i registered at first. my mine just being there, seeing taping was coolest thing.

to get chosen was pure luck and amazing. she was in the audience. she went crazy. i don't think she realized what was going on until someone next to her, your husband won $200,000. do you know what is going on right now? she said, oh, my god! you're up there. it foes quickly. it is a blur. when you're done, atcha go, they go to commercial break, whatever, you know, you sit there, oh, my god. i just won $202,000. neil: no one knew. >> correct. neil: you had operation silence. >> coming home, not telling family, hey guys, what is for dinner. neil: now what is it like? they saw the show a month later. >> on that day, my wife and i took off from work. we had families over. watched the sew with them. they went absolutely nuts. they were so excited and so surprised. neil: you have a little over $262,000. uncle sam will take a big chunk of that. >> taxes are due.

totally understand that. california, federal, all that kind of stuff. neil: what are you going to do with it? >> most of it is invested. put away for the future. neil: you're a young guy, 29? >> 29. start the next egg. neil: i have ties older than you. you always liked show. used to watch it with your grandmother. >> all the time younger i watched with my grandmother. my brother and i watched home sick from school. let's make a deal followed by the price is right. neil: is that right? >> play along. to be on the show, to be there was a dream come true. neil: normally when people get lucky or do well, they play the lotto, play something else. sign up for another game show, what about you? >> really in the cards. i play the lottery if it gets big enough. never win that. been down to atlantic city. never seem to win there. neil: but you're not quitting your job? >> nothing like that. nothing like that. money for the future, putting it aside. neil: i don't want to put you on

the spot what do you do for a living? >> i work in communications. work in communications. neil: no one should know, everyone come up to, new best friend? >> no one has done that yet. had a couple of financial advisors on linked in. neil: watch those guys. a for performance. >> scott, who know what they're doing. that's good. neil: very, very happy for you. michael. >> appreciate it. neil: you're very physical, you can run, do all the things. i don't care how much i am winning here i am not running. >> plinko was my cardio. neil: i love that. michael, great story. you don't hear too many of them these days? more after this. at's on your mi? we are edward jones,

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deal making. one is the syria cease-fire, whether certainly in the case of turkey, it's committed to that. the president says they are. we've got reports that say not quite, they are still doing a lot of things they are not supposed to be doing right now. meanwhile, a brexit deal could be in doubt not because of anything the europeans are doing. remember, they support it unanimously, but because of what boris johnson's own party is considering. he might not have the support he needs. anything can happen in the next 24 hours. and the uaw and gm are still at loggerheads, still in the middle of that now 33-day walkout. you won't believe what is stopping the deal from getting done. and china still warning, and all of this as we get reminders with each and every one of those that sometimes overtouted deals can, well, just stop cold and hard and fast. that's is kind of what is sort of ruffling feathers on the corner of wall and broad. we have mike murphy with us,

jeanne zaino and connell mcshane. connell, every single one of these highly touted deals at least at this point are not done deals. >> i don't know if i go past 50/50 on three out of four. maybe gm is on the road to getting a deal done. on the others, be careful betting one way or the other. brexit, for example, i think maybe the betting markets have it something like 60/40 against. it could go either way on saturday. the reporting we get from syria the next few days will be really important because it's tough to tell what's really happening there. obviously, there was a cease-fire earlier in the day that wasn't holding but now you heard the president's comments saying maybe now we have things under control and obviously, china trade, you know, is what you describe it to be. i wouldn't go past 50/50 on three out of the four. neil: one thing they were really hoping for was the china thing. it looked like we were on our

way there and china said if we dispense with the december 15th tariffs. we're not going to do that at this point. i'm wondering if we were counting our proverbial chickens. >> i don't think so. i look at it differently. syria doesn't have too much of an impact on the market. i don't think, brexit we have been talking about now for three years, i don't think that has too much impact on the market. china does have an impact. neil: we are doing live coverage, just so you know. >> no, i -- it's important, as far as the market reacting to it. i think when the vote came, there was a big reaction to it. but right now, i think we have had it so long -- neil: -- contrary to consensus it might not happen, what if it does? >> the 60/40 thing, i don't think it has much of an impact on the stock market. it's big news that needs to be covered but on the market moving, i don't think it has too much impact. china, i think we are still, we had a rally last week because it

was early stage deal being done or partial deal being done. i think we still get that done. neil: you think the market is still assuming the december tariffs at least get delayed or don't get put in? >> i don't really think so. i think the market right now is focusing more on a deal getting done and how earnings are coming in for the quarter. neil: the fundamentals are pretty sound, you think about it. you had some earnings disappointments but of the lot we've had so far, 8 of 10 have beaten estimates. now, they might be deliberately, you know, depressed estimates but they are beating them. what are you to make of that? >> well, i think some of this talk about getting a deal done, any deal done, in any of these situations, and that is a good thing, is an overblown idea. any deal on any of these things is not necessarily good cosmically or for the market. i think we have to be a little careful how we talk about this. neil: that's what i told

connell. >> i want to go on record, brexit is very important. but i do think there is this sense that, and part of this i think is driven by the politics of this thing, that in all of these cases, just get something done and that's going to necessarily be a good idea. that's not necessarily the case. you look at brexit, look at china, and syria, obviously, you talk about people's lives on the line, but those final points that we're talking about aren't necessarily good for the market. that quite frankly is doing okay right now. neil: i'm looking at the overall environment, and we talk about investors and their mood and all that, and they are pretty upbeat, pretty upbeat plans despite what credit suisse, one of the few bears on the holiday shopping season, consumers are poised and ready to make it a very busy shopping season. >> i mean, most, not all, most of the macro signs we have had on the consumer side are still hanging in, to put it mildly, or better, so -- and the earnings

in other sectors, we will talk about banks and whathave you, have been impressive, maybe more so than people thought coming in. so there are -- you can pick out five or six reasons to say this is a disaster and look at geopolitical reasons and all the rest but when we come back to fundamentals, we have had this conversation for months, the economy still looks pretty good. does it mean it will look great six months or a year from now? but it still looks pretty good. people see that and adjust accordingly how they will spend and all the rest. neil: since this is your favorite issue, i want to pursue it. boris johnson is very similar to what donald trump has been doing in the united states, working more with the opposition party, whereas donald trump goes after vulnerable democrats in districts he won. we are learning that boris johnson is going after labour party members, the opposition party, there, in districts, locales of where brexit won. it's an interesting strategy. >> it is, for sure. we know they're friends so i'm sure it's been discussed and he's seeing something that

worked -- neil: the president and boris johnson. >> president trump and boris johnson. so to take a page out of the president's book that's worked for him, i think that's smart. you wouldn't want to emulate a loser. you emulate someone who's winning. he needs 32 to come from labour or independent party to cross over and vote for him. you use tactics like that, hey, you better vote for this, your people are for it, you better be for it as well because he needs those votes. that's why it will down to the wire. >> what a difference historically that you've got a prime minister of england who has to do, you know, what jimmy carter had to try to do, to bring the deal over from somewhere else and use your opposition party to try to push it through your own legislature. to me, it is a very bad sign for democracy as a whole that they can't rely on their own party members, and it shows really how dysfunctional these parties are.

neil: it can also look bipartisan, right? you think what ronald reagan was able to do working with those southern democrats to get tax cuts through. different times, different agenda, he probably would have had victory without them, but it did put a nice finish on it that i got 40, 50 of these guys to go along. >> it also suggests their party stands for very little. on big issues they don't agree. >> they don't have the numbers, right? correct me if i'm wrong, he doesn't have -- >> strategically it's the smart thing to do. he's got to look for the opposition. neil: boris johnson. >> boris johnson. >> in today's world, so many politicians have become social media celebrities, so they are not so much about party. they are more about me, me, me, what's going to advance my personal agenda. i think we are going to see more of that, not less. neil: on the boeing thing, one of the reasons why the dow started escalating, were these new reports reuters has that there were problems with the 737

max and workers are texting each other that potentially hoodwinked the faa. in other words, this on top of southwest saying they don't know when the 737 maxes will be back. american, i think united saying the same. this is an unending nightmare. >> that's the point, i think. this is terrible and what happened was awful and everybody knew that. when things like this happen to big corporations, sometimes we assume that we know everything when the news story breaks and that they will make corrections and be back on track in x amount of weeks or months. but to your point, something new seems to come out every few weeks about this, or just when you think they're back on track, there's another stumble and that's where it's tough for anybody, but for an investor to look and say boy, if this happened this week, what do we not know that might come out next week. it goes on and on. neil: meanwhile, airbus keeps locking in more orders. their rival. >> it's like a drip-drip of bad news they have to plug and they haven't been able to do it. the impact on them is enormous

at this point. they've got to plug this gap. neil: we will take a quick break here. i know everyone is focused on mick mulvaney and his memorable press conference yesterday and everyone pounced on what he had to say about ukraine. we are not. we focused on something else here and it concerns a certain golf club and resort that will host the next g-7 meeting. the president essentially signed a contract with himself. now, some people are saying there's nothing illegal about that, there's nothing unconstitutional about that, but there is the issue of appearances. does this come back to haunt him when even the "new york post" i think a fairly friendly paper to the president, says find another site. after this. introducing even more value from fidelity. fidelity now has zero commissions for online u.s. equity trades and etfs. and fidelity also offers zero account fees for brokerage accounts, plus zero minimums to open an account.

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it became apparent at the end of that process that doral was by far and away, far and away the best physical facility for this meeting. in fact, i was talking to one of the advance teams when they came back and said what was it like. they said you're not going to believe this but it's almost like they built this facility to host this type of event. neil: all right. so the venue for the next g-7 meeting, remember they all take turns hosting it, will be, well, a trump resort in doral outside of miami. what can possibly go wrong with that? now, we had judge andrew napolitano on telling me at the very least it raises serious constitutional issues. take a look. what do you think? >> well, it's not my notion, it's the constitution's notion. when the constitution does not address profits, it addresses any present, as in a gift, any emolument as in cash of any kind

whatever. i'm quoting the emoluments clause, from any king, prince or foreign state. he has bought himself an enormous headache with the choice of this. this is about as direct and profound a violation of the emoluments clause as one could create. neil: all right. it's created a firestorm here, even those who normally support the president, for example, one editorial in today's "new york post" says move the summit, mr. president. goes on to say even if the place is absolutely perfect, so good that it will have other world leaders backing washington's position on everything, it is still the president's resort. going on to say trump is rightly proud of what he built in his earlier career but he has a new job now and a public trust, essentially going on to say it is not an obscure issue of emoluments, nor the folks who, as mulvaney put it, will never get over the fact this is a trump property. this is much more than that. what do you think? >> well, i guess what i would say, i saw the judge on with you

yesterday after mulvaney's briefing. if you are making this decision from a political point of view and you hold a live briefing at the white house and obviously there are other issues yesterday, but if you hold the live briefing at the white house for that express purpose to announce what they announced about doral, then on live television after the briefing, a former federal judge is quoting the constitution to argue that maybe this wasn't the best idea, then it probably wasn't the best idea. to your point about forget about the legalities for a moment. that's someone else's expertise, the judge's and others, but from political appearances point of view, given everything this white house and president is going through right now and all the accusations that are out there, you do logically have to ask yourself why. neil: it's the timing of it. again, i'm not a lawyer, either, jeanne, maybe you are, but one of the things that came up is how it looks. those things matter, politics, the president obviously came the a conclusion it's a great facility. others say it's been a money-losing facility, profits are down about 65%, 70% last couple of years. not unique in that industry to

be very volatile. i get it. but even arguing it's going to be done at cost, it raises concerns, the very same week you are pounding joe biden and his son and the relationship in another country at another time, it just doesn't look good. >> it does not look good. as judge napolitano mentioned, there are two potential constitutional violations there, the emoluments clause, also the fact that as president you can be paid but you can take nothing else from the federal government. this, a contract with himself, as you said, from the federal government, is potentially problematic. there is also the attack on hunter biden, of course, his son is running the organization that would benefit from this contract and there's the way this looks. it is mind-numbing to imagine how they came to this decision. i ask you, with any ceo that you know in the country, find a similar contract to this for their own business. it just makes almost no sense to me that they did this.

and i think they are going to have to walk this back because he's opening himself up -- neil: i don't know if they are going to walk it back. so the question is, you know, not for us to be on a high pores abo horse about it but the president is arguing we are handling all this at cost or the club is. but i do know the value of, you know, the host of a site, sea island, georgia, for president bush when he hosted around 2005, that really rose the stature of that whole complex in georgia. >> for sure. neil: it's, you know, a museum now today. then you see the clear reminders and flags of all these countries, so it has drawn traffic in for years since. >> yes. i would think more went into this decision. i don't think this was just off-the-cuff it's the best place, the only place, because the president knows he's getting second-guessed and shots fired at him for every decision he makes, right, wrong or indifferent. this would draw too much

criticism. i think there's probably, i'm not sure what it is, but there's probably a bigger picture here. whether he wants it there or whether he wants it to distract from whatever else is going on. neil: maybe it helps the facility. could it be that crass? >> i think it's more than that. >> what could it possibly be? neil: he surely wouldn't do something this risky because no one could possibly do something this risky. >> well, that's the way i see it. neil: there we go. >> we name these summits after where they're held sometimes. neil: absolutely. sea island summit. camp david summit. >> g-7 will be renamed the trump summit. >> the doral. >> deal at the doral. neil: it's way too early. we don't know. but again, with so many on the right saying this, mr. president, was just wrong, will they dial it back or find another venue, maybe stuckey's on route 95, i don't know. think about that. more after this.

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gerri: i'm gerri willis from the floor of the new york stock exchange. the dow down 165 points, not as bad as it was, down 206 points, but down even so, led by boeing and johnson & johnson. boeing down nearly 4%, this after instant messages between two pilots from 2016 being made public that suggested that employees misled the faa about key safety systems on the 737 max jet. one of those pilots, im'ing that the system was running rampant in the sim, meaning simulator. he said i basically lied to regulators unknowingly. this having an effect on the stock. it's down dramatically here today. faa has passed this information on to congress and really giving

boeing a hard time publicly. let's talk about jnj briefly. they say their investigation into asbestos contamination of its talc could take up to 30 days or more, this after months of denying its products contain carcinogens. it's the first time johnson & johnson ever pulled baby powder from the market. some saying they are proceeding from an abundance of caution, but lots of concerns today about this recall of this baby powder after the fda discovered asbestos. back to you. neil: that company can't get out of its own way. thank you, gerri. settlement talks are kicking up a lot of steam right now. deirdre bolton has the companies and the numbers. deirdre: so numerous drug company ceos and distributor ceos have been summoned to appear before this u.s. federal judge on monday. the company obviously would like to settle ahead of the trial and the focus is going to be for this particular trial on the distribution companies versus

the manufacturers. so the manufacturers as we have all covered, are accused of playing an outsized role in the opioid crisis, deceptively marketing the products in ways that downplayed their risks, but the distributors are not immune. take a look. you have mckesson, cardinal health, amerisourcebergen, and teva pharmaceuticals based in israel. all the rest are american. jnj is actually the only one that is not going to be a defendant if this trial does go ahead. in other words, if a settlement isn't reached, jnj, the only non-defendant for monday's trial. sources are saying these companies would pay a collective $50 billion to settle claims. that would resolve about 2600 lawsuits brought on by states and localities. one breakdown or at least part of it that we saw, doesn't add up to $50 billion but here are some of the numbers. $18 billion over 18 years from three companies, jnj would pay $4 billion.

teva offering to give away medication that it values at $15 billion and there's extra value teva is saying because they would also provide distribution services. u.s. centers for disease control and prevention reporting that opioids were responsible for roughly 400,000 overdose deaths in the u.s. from 1999 to 2017, so there are a lot of people, including the judge, by the way, who seems to want to make these companies do something useful with their money. back to you. neil: deirdre, thank you very, very much. we have a lot more coming up including new reports on boeing. this coming from bloomberg, that a pilot there expressed worries about the 737 max safety faras back as 2016. a lot of these came to light in 2017, full light and full publicity and full bore controversy in 2018. this marries with a reuters report that evidenced texts of workers at boeing essentially

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the far left is not impressed with elizabeth warren. we have learned that congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez is set to endorse none other than bernie sanders for president at a rally tomorrow. others are following suit on that far left but not elizabeth warren. what do you make of it? >> i don't know. my initial impression would be that that would be a positive for warren in a general election, in that, you know, she's not going to have any trouble if she's running against donald trump hypothetically, getting those voters to vote for her. they're with her anyway. but having people who identify as socialists or democratic socialists being in her camp at that point wouldn't necessarily help her. so you know, then it just becomes a question of if it affects the primary process which i'm not sure about. long-term it's probably not a negative for warren. neil: that's where the passion of the party is, isn't it? that is where the real vote-getting is. >> it's really funny to see that bernie is still getting -- because aoc has become a big name in the party. to have her behind him i think

after his heart attack, i'm a little surprised by it, with elizabeth warren's momentum, but i don't know. the whole socialist thing is tough for me. neil: then it's a grade of how far left you are. they both believe in taxing the wealthy, as far as they can possibly go. maybe elizabeth warren is the only one who wants to get rid of billionaires but save that, they're not all that different, are they? >> they're not all that different but i agree with you, i think this works to elizabeth warren's favor, because this is going to allow her, if she chooses, if she gets this far, to pivot in the general election. we also had bernie sanders out there in an interview the other day saying i'm a socialist, she's a capitalist. as much as people -- neil: that's right. the worst thing, you're a capitalist. >> she herself described herself as a capitalist. when you look up her plan, the plan to break up the big tech companies, it does sort of try to move in that direction. so i think she's setting herself up or they are helping her set up to pivot a bit.

but i have to say i find it amazing to me that you have alexandria ocasio-cortez potentially two other members of the squad, these young women democrats, who are going to endorse an older white gentleman in bernie sanders as opposed to this woman who could potentially be the first female president if she gets that far. neil: apparently that was what really hurt her, the capitalist comment. what she was saying in that, we didn't give the rest of it, was that when it's working. i like capitalism when it's working. it's not working now. >> i think mike put it the right way. it's hard to get your arms or get your head around the thought process there. but again, i just think once you get to that general election, by the way, it's a long pivot, long way back to the center for someone like elizabeth warren. neil: and bernie sanders. >> he wouldn't even try, right? he's fine where he is. there's no pivoting for bernie sanders. he's been what he's been for a hundred years and he's not changing that. i don't think it's literally a

hundred. you get the idea. >> [ inaudible ]. neil: that would be pretty extreme, wouldn't it? >> it's pretty extreme already. neil: joe biden watching this carefully and not from the position of strength he had a little more than a few weeks ago. when it comes to new money coming in, he's falling further and further behind. that is the mother's milk of politics. if he is not getting as much of that milk, should he worry about that? what do you think? >> i think he should. i think we saw in the debate all the fire was focused on elizabeth warren because her own challengers realize that she is the one who is moving in the right direction. they know, right? you look at iowa, look at new hampshire, he is either plateaued or on the way down. i think the money is all a big indication. big money donors do not feel confident that he has what it takes to move this forward. looking at that debate, i have to agree with them. i thought he, you know, i tagged

him as the loser of that debate, not that he did anything horribly wrong but that he sort of faded away. i had a friend text me in the middle and say is joe biden still there. you know, it was all mayor pete, all elizabeth warren, amy klobuchar, even andrew yang got the better of him. so i do think this is -- neil: what's kind of interesting, we talk about money raised but what makes elizabeth warren so intriguing is, she raises it in small sums. she has this record haul coming not from the big pacs or the big wall street banks or the big, you know, silicon valley types, but in small denominations again and again and again. >> yes. i think her message resonates, her message being destroy big tech, destroy big banks, destroy big pharma, pretty much destroy whatever gets in her way, so i think there are certain people out there that have a strong disdain for president trump and

they see her message as kind of after she destroys everyone else, she can destroy president trump as well. i don't think it will -- i hope it doesn't work too well in a general election if she gets that far, because it is a little bit scary to just break everything up. >> the one thing i saw today which was interesting, i agree with what's been said and there's a lot of reasons to think joe biden may be in trouble or fading and financial problems are one of them, and give credit, the note came out that said the timing of the impeachment inquiry might have an impact on the democratic primary process because you will see a number of senators running for office theoretically and maybe drag them off the trail at a time when they don't want to come off the trail, and that might be, this is all hypothetical, we don't know how exactly it will play out, but say in january if that's when the democrats move forward, now your senator warren or senator sanders, senator klobuchar, senator booker, coming off the trail to participate in that --

neil: if it comes to the trial part. >> yeah. does that give a boost to joe biden or mayor pete or somebody else. that was kind of an interesting thing to look out for. neil: i did not know that. yeah. would make sense. if it passed the house, later to the senate for a trial, oh, my goodness. all right. we are down 186 points. facebook, as you probably heard, under fire. the stock, though, not so much. in fact, that split is what amazes a lot of people. we had a chance to sit down from a billionaire who is trying to protect himself from fire from the right and left. after this. ♪ ♪

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democracy, i don't think that we want private companies censoring politicians in the news. i generally believe that as a principle, people should decide what is credible and what they want to believe and who they want to vote for, and i don't think that that should be something that we want tech companies or any kind of other company doing. neil: all right. mark zuckerberg doesn't talk to many folks in the media but sitting down with dana perino. you can catch that in the next hour on fox news. split screen it during my friend's show and dana's show. see how i handled that, charles payne? >> i'm glad you did that. neil: because you can beat me up. what he was saying was kind of interesting here. if you think about it, republicans and democrats seem to be, you know, wanting to go after this guy. where is it all going? >> well, you know, this is a company just like a whole lot of his brethren in silicon valley, they seem to have insatiable

appetites to go after every aspect of our lives, then start to predict our lives and after that, maybe to start to manipulate our lives, to make us want things that we don't even know we want before we want them. their whole goal has been to accumulate data, then use that data to influence america. it's starting to come back to haunt these guys, so listen, he's saying i don't want any parts of this because i don't want any parts of being considered any sort of responsibility in this area, and i certainly don't want to be regulated to have responsibility in this area. neil: i want to bring the panel in. one thing that's kind of interesting, this idea that for all the incoming fire facebook is getting, the stock is up north of 43% this year. >> the stock has reacted very well but i think it's interesting to hear him speak to dana about not wanting to be part of censoring anyone. meanwhile, within his own organization, if you remember, when people came out in support of the supreme court justice kavanaugh, they had to apologize

internally for doing that. so i think what's going on at facebook, the stock has held up but i don't think that lasts long. we no longer have a position, we sold the position, and the reason for it is although it's a great company that can make a lot of money, i think there's too much internally that's going on that is now getting looked at from both sides and a lot of different governmental groups are looking eigat it. i think there's going to be a breakup in facebook at sam point. neil: maybe that's factored into the stock. what do you think? >> down 6% in the last three months. having said that, amazon is down 10% in the last three months. netflix is down 12% in the last three months. it's one of the better performing of the so-called fang stocks. i don't know. i'm not sure if they will get broken up. i just think governments around the world see them mostly as a source of revenue and i'm not sure, you still have to deal with the ability of them to influence people, if it's two separate companies or one separate company, i think that this is just going to have to be

part of doing business. they will have to continue to pay fines and they are going to continue to have to face criticism. it's a tough one because listen, he admitted the company is based in silicon valley and that well over 90% of their donations go to democratic and progressive causes and that's really, you know, sort of one of the big areas that at least conservatives have a problem with, that they will never really truly be unbiased. >> so on the breakup question, i think i will actually start asking more guests this question. jack otter was on yesterday and we had a very brief comment about it but it's got me thinking about what you said. he said he's been speaking to a lot of people who invest in the technology world who go against the conventional wisdom that if these companies are breaking up, end up being broken up, it's necessarily bad for the stocks. he's spoken to a number of investors who are getting into some of the big techs with the idea if they are broken up, there's some value in the smaller pieces. >> the parts.

neil: you owned at & t stock in materi the early '80s or facebook is just a piggybank. >> i think it is a piggybank. i don't know if it's just me but i think at some point, mark zuckerberg becomes detrimental to facebook. he has become the public face that is getting hit, rightly or wrongly, on all sides. at some point, they may have to move him beyond facebook, get him doing some philanthropic work and put a new face there. no pun intended. >> are you on facebook? neil: no. >> people are leaving facebook. neil: my kids tell me it's not good. i hear the social media thing is huge. charles, i can't wait until the next hour. in the meantime, one of charles's best friends, alec baldwin, making news that even has, well, i think charles clapping.

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neil: all right. say it ain't so, joe. alec baldwin calling the outrage over college admissions scandal demonization of wealth. the former "saturday night live" cast member, joe piscopo here. he's talking about all these stars who are facing prison time, of course, now in prison for 11 days or so, but that to me, this doesn't work, this kind of reaction. >> no, there's so much to worry about. i think he's right, so much to worry about. they are going after this person for just trying to get their kids in school, you know. i told you before, the colleges would pay my parents not for me to apply. i was so bad. i was such a bad student.

neil: you're not in that club that says they are getting off easy? >> you know, really? in some strange really weird way, to be that really committed as a parent to say yeah, i'll do whatever it tashkes, we do the news every day, there's so many bad things. maybe i'm wrong. neil: he is saying something, i don't think anyone involved in the college cases should go to prison. my heart goes out to felicity, talking about felicity huffman, their family, better way to do these things. >> i tend to agree completely with all that. i don't know why people are so upset. neil: but it does, this is very different, i grant you, target the rich, go after, you know, pampered and feel they can't do anything wrong crowd, and some people in this populist age welcome it. >> that's probably why they went after her. they thought they were just all hollywood and felt entitled. but -- neil: this is a chance for you to get this off your chest.

did you do anything for your kids? >> would i? no, i did not. know what i try to do? i go hey, college is so expensive now. oh, my god. so i go you need a benefit or anything? how about that sinatra show, we might be able to do? neil: we can do that. >> so you know, but i always try to do it but no, there's so much to worry about, man. you know, with the school stuff, but would i do anything for my kids? i spoil them. i do. i really do. you would, too. you would do the same thing. neil: it depends. i have seen your kids. they're wonderful kids. let me ask you about this, switching gears. you were at this big dinner last night at the white house. the president held for the president of italy. >> wednesday night. yes. neil: they had a little bit of a tense exchanges earlier in the day at their press announcement where the president was criticizing nato as being cheap, contributing to nato, the president of italy comes back and says well, actually, we have

been a big contributor to nato, later criticizes the president for this whole turkey mess. how was it last night? >> spectacular. wednesday night was spectacular. as italian americans, we never get the respect that's due. we never stick together. this is the year, we are so excited, we kept the statue, columbus circle here in new york, number one. number two -- neil: under guard. they did that. want to keep it under guard. >> i'm telling you, we never stick together, neil. we stuck together. mother cabrini, my buddy chazz palmintieri said they locked the door in albany, now you can't leave. neil: there, they were talking about who do you celebrate in new york. >> she got the most votes. the mayor said no. guys went nuts. neil: no, no, no. >> but i have to tell you, down there in washington, on wednesday, everybody was there and it was great to see the president -- neil: who is everybody? >> everybody from the italian

american community. it was so funny, they had antonin scalia's wife was there, all these politicians and they appreciated, as i did, the president would stick up for italian americans. it was great. i'm telling you. neil: sticking up -- >> because it's columbus day. neil: oh, oh, oh. >> they said, you know, listen, adam schiff is there -- neil: here we go. >> my adam schiff impression, oh, god. neil: you really are an idiot. >> i'm telling you, i had to do it. the fact of the matter is he says we believe in columbus day, it will always be columbus day for us and we appreciated that. neil: what are they doing, celebrating both, indigenous people day because it was so horrible? >> indigenous people have a day, november 9th. neil: don't take anything away from chris. who else was at the white house shindig? >> mario andretti, all the

italian american folks in office. i didn't even know. steve scalise was there. which was great. it was wonderful going around. but the fact that -- the governor wasn't there. he wasn't there. but everybody from within, ta i the communities, he did a great speech and president mattarella seemed to get along great. i wanted to get up there. then he comes up, this is what i like about president trump, if i can. he does his whole thing, it goes on, everybody applauds, it's great, italian american celebration, and he says thanks for being so great, he leaves, then people go mr. president, can you sign this, they start calling him. he turns around, he comes back and he signs. i'm thinking the guy's got to be, he looked great, he didn't even look tired. neil: that's right. this was the same day that -- >> boom! so he's as close as you are to me. neil: she's italian american.

>> thank you. neil: did he invite her back? >> she was not there. neil: she was not there? >> she was not there. i could have gone, this is me, i wanted to go mr. president, joe piscopo, thank you, i was there. i never do that. chickened out completely. neil: he knows who you are. you run into that a lot? this is a pretty type a crowd. >> no, no. me? i'm a utility guy. they don't care. you kidding me? neil: so everyone there would be italian american. >> everybody there was italian american. you wanted to get up there, because the president said would you say something. i said yes, lot of problems overseas, you just sent two italian guys from jersey in a buick, it will all be over. neil: you are foisting an image. >> best behavior, it was great. i have to tell you, i'm always so transparent with you and i

love you, man, it was great to see the italians finally get together this year through the columbia pus sfoundation citize parade. neil: we didn't give this guy a state dinner, though. >> when was the last time i was down there? neil: berlusconi, they had a dinner for him back in the bush administration. italians get pushed aside. >> since ronald reagan. it was ronald reagan. that's the last time i got invited. neil: you were there so the party could start. >> i was there, woodrow wilson invited some people down. but it was monumental and -- neil: well deserved. good for you. >> we never concentrate on the positives. it's always negative. it's like about the school thing. neil: we are better than that. >> i could see within the white house, everybody was so pumped up. the bandleader for the united states marine corps, the bandleader guy, he goes joe piscopo, i'm a big fan. i go you want to do "fly me to the moon" with the marine band?

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will talk about. we'll go to him in a few seconds. leave the dow down 150 points. to your point the economic cycle still stands. for right now it doesn't seem to be anything these guys are saying right now to disrupt it. charles: absolutely right. the longest expansion in history. so everyone is guessing when it will come to an end. thank you very much, neil. great seeing you. neil: you got it, buddy. charles: great seeing you as well. i'm charles payne. this is making money. the market under pressure from variety of things. weakness from tech. disappointing comments from federal officials. another ugly twist in the boeing 737 saga. meanwhile a nail-biter. as a new brexit deal heads to a vote tomorrow, less than two weeks before the deadline. we'll go live to london. china's weakest gdp print in 30 years make as trade deal more likely. i'm seeing signs it happens less than six