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being groomed by the russians. hear the sound for yourself. an historic day for nasa as they complete the first ever all female space walk. "trish regan primetime" starts right now. i'm david asman in for trish. breaking tonight, a source confirming to fox that a career state department official overseeing ukraine policy told house investigators he raised concerns all the way back to early 2015 about vice president joe biden's son serving on the board of an energy company in ukraine. but he was turned away saying the vice president was preoccupied with his other son's

battle with cancer. joining me now is house oversight committee member south carolina congressman ralph norman. is this worth investigating? >> absolutely. you look at what the democrats are doing to this president with trying to impeach him behind closed doors. the fact that a state department official would say this -- it's interesting "the washington post" had it was a staffer. the buck stops with the boss, the boss was joe biden. he was the vice president. it wasn't a staffer making that decision. but absolutely ought to be explored and get the details on it. it will be interesting if it's pushed at all. but it should be. david: it's exactly the kind of thing you would want to contact the leader of ukraine to follow the thread on this story. journalists are breaking this

story. some people working for president trump like rudy giuliani. now there is enough smoke there that there may be fire that needs the ukrainian government's assistance on. >> look at the facts. the reason that this is corruption or when you look at what he got $50,000 a month -- david: at least, by the way. it may have been more than that. >> every two years, that's a million two. $50,000 every 30 days? i saw the interview with hunter. the question should have been, hunter, what qualifications do you have? tell me about your meetings? did you fly to ukraine? what business did you get for burisma. what was your job? did you interview for it? none of that was asked. that goes to show you how they get a pass on this. to say this has been vetted.

who knew about it. nobody knew by the. your viewers know $50,000 every 30 days for basically a board position he has no credentials to have is not fair to the american people, and the tax dollars paid to ukraine is something we need to find out about. for him to be pious and act like knock is wrong, he's -- david: the president of the united states is now involved in an inquiry, i would call it an inquisition, just short of a vote on an impeachment charge for looking into this various stuff that's turning up more and more information. so the point is the president was doing his job and trying to investigate whether or not ukraine had information about something that could have been illegal that was done by a man who is running for president who was vice president. now that president is being

impeached for a genuine investigation into something that's bearing fruit. >> that's why it's not fair. that's why the public sees through this. the fact they are doing this behind closed doors. adam schiff basically lying about what was on the transcript. and to have hearsay, the whistleblowers having hear say on what was quoted in the transcripts. you couldn't get a traffic ticket based on hear say. the two most of important powers that the united states congress has is to deet clare war and then impeach the president. you have got 218 democrats trying to do that. it's sad. david: there are so many times when the president is ahead of the information curve. when he said he was being spied on, everybody laughed and said it was ridiculous. turns out he was spied on. now when he asked for the ukrainian officials to investigate what was going on

slick in with the bind affair everybody scoffed. now it turns out he was right. once he again the president was ahead of the information curve. >> corruption is corruption at any level. just because the person happens to be running for office and his last name biden who was a vp at the time for this great country, he ought to be investigated. it's the duty of the president to find out where the corruption is. we are giving him taxpayer dollars. that's the difference. >> there are times when the mainstream media does follow the truth wherever it happens to lead. not none this case of the staffedder speaking out. but also in july "the washington post," same publication came out with a piece that suggested vice president biden was trying to get aid for the gas company burisma in particular, and his son was sitting on the board of.

that means u.s. taxpayer money might have been used to fund directly his son's various payments by burisma. >> not only that, he said on a tv interview, he was bragging about firing shokin. it's pay-to-play. it's pure and simple. that's why hunter had the opportunity of doing his interview to explain it. he backtracked and said he made a mistake. at the end of the day he got caught. they never expected president trump the get elected there they thought shenanigans would continue with hillary clinton. that didn't happen, and thank god it didn't. david: your fellow republicans have written to adam schiff claiming he's withholding impeachment-related documents from him. this whole process is being done in secret. now republicans are getting an equal access to material being

investigated. how do you fix this? >> you appeal to him to vote on it. >> that's going backfire. the people see what's happening. this country in 13 months has the right to impeach this president. it's called an election. instead of 28 democrats trying push this, they are not willing to go on the record for. we are paid to vote, and they are not willing to go on the record to set the parameters these committees have instead of leak can bits of information out that nobody can see. we were down there this past week. i got in because i was on the over$sighted committee. the others, louie gohmert, sitting congressmen could not get in. that's not right. david: it's not only not right for congress, it's not right for the american people. i know you represent us. but this is an open process that

could overturn an election. the american public, every single american voter deserves to see what they are doing. soap i went on the house floor. look at the things we could be doing. 435 members went back this week. we could be passing usmca. infrastructure, it's not happening. >> good to see you, congressman. thanks for being here. nasa as pro knotts making history -- nasa astronauts making history. president trump: this is president donald trump. do you hear me? >> i hear you. david: hillary clinton still can't get over her 2016 loss. wait until you hear who she thinks the russians are trying to groom for 2020. the answer in just a moment.

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it's kind of a dangerous development in the history of warfare, i wonder if we are prepared to deal with. what do you think? >> the turkey has been using drones unlike i have ever seen before. they have been using them in this battle. when i think about the larger ceasefire the first thing that comes to mind cities what ceasefire? hours after this ceasefire was publicly put out there you had turkish backed free syrian militias firing on kurdish civilians. the turks have already broken the ceasefire. and i'm not sure we wield the same power and influence we had over the region even a month ago. i don't know if we can live up to our end of the bargain. what incentive to the kurds have to pack up and move everything they have out of this area.

the fact is this free syrian army backed by the turkish government, i don't think turkey has the ability to control them like we think they do. this is the same group as canned with helping contain isis. and they are full of isis supporters. weren't first week of this operation starting. we empowered the syrian assault re cream. set the conditions for one of the greatest humanitarian crises of this century. >> sick to mike pompeo was with maria bartiromo, and she asked him if turked would have invited even if we hadn't moved our troops out. >> i was closely involved when president erdogan notified us that he was prepared to move and he would do so in hours.

president trump saw there were american soldiers in the way and we didn't have the capacity to do that. to think we were going to have nato and nato fighting. the president made the right decision in the moment to get american forces out of the way. david: i happen to share a lot of your concern about the kurds. if what pompeo is saying is right, it didn't matter whether we kept our troops in or pulled them out, the turks were going in anyway. >> i don't believe that is the case. we were talking to our kurdish allies to get them to move off the turkish border so we could set the conditions so they wouldn't come in. we were in the process of negotiating not having $having the turks go in there and fight as all. it feels like a unilateral decision from the president. after the fact he did the right thing by pulling the troops out.

we didn't have enough troops to the point they were coming in there. but there was a precedent for him to maintain stability. and sold the turks we'll protect our allies and protect them in a number of different ways. david: specifically erdogan, i don't trust him as far as i can throw him. he's somebody that at this point we have to deal with. he neve nevertheless. some people say he gave sanctuary to al-baghdadi, the guy who formed isis. other people say his son was involved in selling isle to isis. but last night the president was in texas. a hard nosed state. a lot of military people were in that stadium listening to president trump. and he got the loudest applause

when he said we have to bring our troops back home from wars that can't be won because the battles go back centuries. >> i think the problem is american probably don't understand why we are there in the first place, and i completely understand that. it's hard for even seasoned military intelligence officials to understand who is on whose side. some of the same people who told president obama to remain in iraq when we had basically brought the islamic state to the brink of evening d brink of exte telling president trump the same thing. it's a great talking point. bring your troops home. i don't want to be at war. i spent more time in a war zone than people should have to in a lifetime. there is a tremendous extra see jim consequence to what they are

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>> we are going forward to the most of secret room in the capitol. and all adam schiff is doing is a one-sided process toward impeachment, and i think it's a very unfair process. david: my next guest says democrats are steam rolling norms. and hell bent on impeachment before the 2020 election. they are -- the point of an impeachment is to undo an election. because of that you have to prove to every american who

voted that they have all the evidence to remove that president. we don't know what kind of evidence they have right now. >> we have no idea. it could be compelling evidence that donald j. trump is a terrible man. or it could be exculpatory. and i think we are getting little bits of information from inside adapt schiff's top secret committee hearing room which apparently is covered up in a way that we can seefs drop. the 330 million ofous outside that room is thought hearing what's going on. david: adam schiff, the guy is caught in lie after lie. the four pinocchios from "the washington post" for making up the whistleblower, and he lied about having evidence of russian collusion which turned out to be not true. >> this statement he made

reading from a piece of paper, supposedly trump saying these word. i want you to make up dirt on my political opponent. it turns out those aren't word president trump said, those are word he invented. and when he got caught he says it's a parody. this guys out of control. i think the american people want to see the president finish his term and get re-elected. but if he's going to be removed, all of us need to be involved. david: remember when he had those phoney phone call, the ukrainians claimed they had dirt. saying you have dirt on the president. he's projecting his own behavior on to the president. >> a great exam elf exactly that. i believe the comedy radio hosts got him staying.

he says i want that information including naked pictures of donald trump in moscow. he did the same sort of behavior about which he is now going after trump. david: the mainstream media thinking they had a gotcha moment. rinse. >> did also mention to me that the corruption related to the dnc server? absolutely. no question about that. that's it. that's why we held up the money. >> the demand for an investigation into the democrats was one of the reasons he was ordered to withhold funding to ukraine. >> the look back to 2016 was part of the thing he was worried about in corruption with that nation and that's absolutely appropriate. lou: mick mulvaney has pulled back saying he wasn't saying it

was quid pro quo. he's a very small guy. >> i think he got caught up in his words. the main story is before we hand over $400 million to any country, ukraine, costa rica, we want to make sure the money won't end up in secret bank accounts. are these people corrupt or not. will they follow through with president zelensky's anti-corruption process. the server happened to come out of ukraine. would you rather not know that? saying it's perfectly clean. david: we saw "the washington post" is coming out with more information suggesting what the president suspects happened with biden didn't happen with biden. he was trying to at least the ukrainians were currying favor with him by putting his son on

their payroll. so what happens now. if the president tries to again go to the ukrainians and say give us any information you have on what happened in 2016, events leading up to the 2016 election. democrats will come down on him again like aton of bricks. >> i don't know where it's written that we can't investigate somebody for past improprieties. the guy is running for office. does he get this sort of super shield around him where he can't be looked into? the investigation might be mr. president we looked into this. it was perfectly clean. joe biden and his son did nothing wrong. david:ed the one thing we know about burisma was it wasn't completely clean. it was a conflict of interest for the vice president's son to follow him to ukraine. >> there was i believe the appearance of a conflict. you are not supposed to have appearances of a