Skip to main content

tv   Cavuto Coast to Coast  FOX Business  October 23, 2019 12:00pm-2:00pm EDT

12:00 pm
that's where we stand right now. >> trying to see if it would affect the markets. it doesn't seem to. the markets came off ever so slightly. no big reaction. charles: dow jones industrial average up 47 points as i hand it over to neil cavuto. neil: thank you very, very much, charles. a couple quick points what the president says before i get to the mark zuckerberg testimony going on capitol hill. we are still trying too find evidence where he said thousands of kurds who were saved as a result of this decision and this move and lifting of a freeze that had been in existence now beyond just what the turks committed to already. that was prompted by the president's removal of u.s. troops from northern syria in the first place. so lifting that cease-fire and then imposing it, keeping it in place was something that necessitated by his actions. again it is russian troops in the area working with the turks that is policing all of this, not u.s. interests. so this is something that the president is overseeing but
12:01 pm
russian and turkish forces are. we're just trying to ascertain where the president got the thousands of lives that have been saved on the kurds side. at this point, i am not questioning him, we have not found evidence or anyone to corroborate that. when we do, we pass that along. we want to make sure everything on the up and up and information you're hear something accurate. separately we want to get to the mark zuckerberg testimony on capitol hill. this is about the libra currency at the outset or his hiring practice, whether he got too big for his britches and whether he alienated republicans and democrats and in the future his company is broken up. the stock bouncing up because they think he has done a pretty good job thus far. hillary vaughn with the latest from washington. hey, hillary. reporter: ohiohi, neil. mark zuckerberg making the case or assuring lawmakers he will
12:02 pm
not move forward with libra whether he gets moving forward with regulators. he was asked what specific regulators was he referring to? a lot of them would need to sign off on cryptocurrency and global payments going through. not all of them. a lot of lawmakers are saying regulators don't have policies on the books anticipated to anticipate this payment system rolled out globally. zuckerberg believes stable partners like visa, mastercard and paypal ditched libra because of increased scrutiny and because it's a risky business. chairwoman maxine waters kicked off the hearing reading off a laundry list of problems facebook faced everything from russian meddling in 2016 and data privacy. she said these reasons make the case why they should be concerned that facebook wants to get in the digital currency world, potentially coming out with a currency that could rival
12:03 pm
the u.s. dollar. >> do you fact check on any ads at all? >> yes. >> describe what you fact check on. >> well, chairwoman, actually, thank you for the opportunity to clarify. facebook itself actually does not fact check. what we do is, we have feedback that people in our community don't want to see viral hoaxes or, or kind of -- >> let me be clear, you do no fact-checking on any ads, is that correct? >> chairwoman, what we do is we work with a set of independent fact checkers -- >> somebody fact checks on ads? you contract with someone to do that, is that right? >> i, chairwoman, yes. reporter: faced a lot of questions about, of course a lot of topics other than libra. zuckerberg made the case that the reason why he is passionate about developing this currency because he wants to provide an option for the 14 million people here in the u.s. that do not have a bank account and also
12:04 pm
around the world, also an option to get into the banking sys but several lawmakers on republican and democrat were not, kind of trying to call his bluff, saying if he really is concerned about people that are unbanked, there are a lot of other ways that he can prove that. zuckerberg admitted him sitting here in front of the committee, he is probably not the best spokesperson for this. one lawmaker says he is hearing from the richest man in america why he wants to use poor people to make money. >> i believe this is something that needs to get built i get that i'm not the ideal messenger for this right now. we faced a lot of issues over the past few years. i'm sure there are a lot of people wish it were anyone but facebook helping to propose this. reporter: neil, zuckerberg still facing questions from several lawmakers on the committee today. we'll continue to provide you updates. neil? neil: thank you very, very much on all of that. zuckerberg by the way is the
12:05 pm
third richest american. he is not the richest american. we should point out here, this hearing taken a little break now. he will return. he comported himself pretty well but the gist of the hearing before the house financial services committee was this libra digital currency that had wide backing from two dozen players. since that time, maybe because of controversies surrounding zuckerberg and facebook, visa, paypal said sayonara to this. there is question whether the company working with consortium could pull this off. what would make it different from bitcoin or rivals, it would have backing or at least something, backing it up. the assets in a basket of goods that include various currencies and commodities would make it less of a volatile swing and a bet for financial players. but the jury is still out as they say. right now, given his growing
12:06 pm
unpopularity with both sides on capitol hill, we got to break you up. don't think about trying to go into digital currencies. is this time or moment to see it happen? growing doubts about that. sun microsystems co-founder scott mcnealy. not easy for tech guys, you have been in the hot seat, to come off well with politicians that will second guess them at every step. how do you think he is done handling press hostile questions from both sides? >> i'm glad i'm not a ceo in this day and age. it is pretty interesting. they're going after him for everything but you know, i think the big issue here is, the government has a huge policy tool. at least with respect to libra. it is called quantitative easing. and they don't want to lose that. they want to be able to tax tear citizenry by just printing money and devaluing the currency without having to go through congress, without having to go through elections, all the rest of it.
12:07 pm
there are some very, very good reasons not to have anonymous, independent, currency because of criminals using to hide, launder, all the rest of it but there is also a huge, when zuckerberg said i'm going to get every agency to approve it, that just means innovation is not going to happen. we'll not move forward on this thing and they're not going to allow their ability -- this, quantitative easing, printing money and deficit spending is how politicians stay in power and how big government becomes even bigger government as they redistribute from those who have assets or who have earned a salary to buy votes and to stay in power. i think that is what, that is the big undercurrent war that is going on that i saw not being addressed in that, in the testifying that i did see. i saw the first 45 minutes of it. neil: you know, within that first 45 minutes you probably heard zuckerberg talking about the fact this would be backed by
12:08 pm
bank deposits, variety of other things, basket of goods, to make it less volatile than other estimates, but you're quite right. when you have folks like the federal reserve, treasury department, secretary of state, president raising their eyebrows at possibility of an alternative to the u.s. dollar, you could begin to see why even one of the world's richest men is going to face an onslaught. that is exactly what he is facing? >> unfortunately we have a banking system that has banks that are too big to fail. if they're too big to fail, break them up, that is the whole concept behind our ant tiff -- antitrust rules. a whole bunch of regulations put big banks in play because you can't start a little bank because you can't deal with all the regulations. saw that with sox 404. all the rest of it. it basically eliminated a whole bunch of companies to go public
12:09 pm
to raise cash they need. all the regulations are putting bigger companies, the more regulated the environment, the bigger companies get and less choice, the less innovation and more corruption you get. i'm just sort of nervous about what i saw on tv. neil: just wondering what are your final thoughts on zuckerberg saying, you know, i'm probably not the best messenger but this message for rival, sort of currency, cryptocurrency, rival is probably not the right word is bad timing because of the guy who is leading the charge. >> well he had a lot of issues around privacy but i always, i don't think facebook should be broken up. i don't think they have done anything wrong. he didn't shoot secretariat because they won the triple crown. you don't hurt shareholders of secretariat because the horse was fast. he has done a good job of winning out there in the marketplace. there are privacy issues but you know what?
12:10 pm
if the product is free, you're not the customer. you are the product. and nobody is paying for facebook. i think the people that do have a beef about breaking up facebook might be corporations who do digital advertising. google and facebook, last time i looked had 75% of the digitalizing marketplace. there are other places to advertise. i'm not sure, i'm not for breaking up facebook. the biggest issue that is also unspoken hornet's nest that he stirred up is the political bias that has been very clearly outlined with james o'keefe and the veritas project and other instances. now he has half of the political world upset and the other half thinking they're messing with me too. getting the whole political discourse off of the social media and in the dot-com and dot-gov world would be a huge opportunity. you and i discussed in the past about creating a digital,
12:11 pm
america's town hall that is dot-org, that is non-profit, that is independent, openly and transparently run we move all of the legal residents and voters in the united states on a digital town hall where they, that whole conversation can be free and open and clear and we don't have these algorithms that are hidden. we don't have "shadow banning." we don't have all the other stuff happening that would take a lot of pressure off facebook if they would help establish that political discourse off of twitter and facebook and instagram, all these other for-profit organizations. i think facebook should be allowed to shadow ban somebody or run an gore gore -- algorithm well them like they want. peel can choose to be there or not to be there. but we need a town hall where people's voices are heard. neil: thank you very much, scott mcnealy.
12:12 pm
policing virus companies what they put on their site or politicians is in eye of beholder. democrats criticizing fates book fact-checking adds republicans on their sight or president trump but didn't say for the other side. whatever is good for your side is good, but for the other side is not this currency, mark zuckerberg collected very powerful friends to advance something for the future, benefit upwards of one million people worldwide to make it digitally easier for them to conduct transactions. he was defending the push, to deaf ears. take a look. >> i actually don't know if libra is going to work but i believe it is important to try new things. as long as you're doing so responsibly. that is what made america successful. that is why our tech industry has led the world. neil: he might not be the one
12:13 pm
leading this charge. cryptocurrency investing for dummy as author on all of this what do you think? >> this was fantastic testimony on his side. i like what he said, as one of the congressman brought it up, it was very, it was designedple, i'm all for innovation. i think facebook is a perfect version and category king of its own category. now trying to become something it is not. it is trying to become a bank. mark zuckerberg in the past few years actually has been trying to come off as a decent person to try to combat all the backlash of his, he has gotten. he went as far as last week he said, he completely rewrote the, origin story of why he founded the facebook. he said that, oh, i founded facebook because i wanted to give people voice after i saw
12:14 pm
the u.s. invaded iraq. we all know that is not the reason he founded facebook. neil: does he have an edge here, given the fact he has upwards of 2 billion users? that is pretty impressive base to pitch something? i'm not saying all two billion would migrate to this. what do you think of that? >> 100% he has an edge here. he has all the power in the world now. if people get on his site to make this libra a reality and, it's a good thing for the cryptocurrency market as a whole because it brings attention to the fact that cryptocurrencies are necessary for our unbanked and underbanked. however, if facebook should be doing it as the monopoly power it is right now, that is a question that remains to be asked because frankly, i don't know if i want facebook to have this much power over everything. neil: thank you very, very much.
12:15 pm
i apologize for all the breaking news. we have been able to ascertain a little bit about the administration thinking about the cease-fire why it could save thousands of kurds, because they said if turks broke it, thousand us could have died. no way of knowing that. the reasoned response was based on turkey invading in the first place, something promulgated by the president decision to take troops out of there. akin to the guy starting the fire, commending himself for putting it out. more after this. [gunfire] from the couldn't be prouders
12:16 pm
12:17 pm
to the wait did we just win-ners. everyone uses their phone differently. that's why xfinity mobile let's you design your own data. now you can share it between lines. mix with unlimited, and switch it up at anytime so you only pay for what you need.
12:18 pm
it's a different kind of wireless network designed to save you money. save up to $400 a year on your wireless bill. plus get $250 back when you buy an eligible phone. call, click, or visit a store today. ♪. >> early this morning the government of the turkey informed my administration and stopping combat and their offensive in syria and making the cease-fire permanent.
12:19 pm
it will indeed be permanent. neil: all right, even republicans are skeptical that it will be permanent. the president crowing about the agreement he scored with the turks, that they will recognize a cease-fire as permanent as it can be in that neck of the woods. a lot of the president's critics are saying this was all necessitated you were in the process of removing u.s. troops from northern syria. that prompted president erdogan of turkey to invade, kill a lot of kurds or at least put them in serious jeopardy. now that they have agreed to making that cease-fire permanent, albeit with russian help, the burden is lifted and the sanctions that we promised in retaliation for that attack have been lifted as well. to the kelly jane torrence on this. kelly jane, it does strike a lot of folks as the president who many argue fairly or not, this is not to disparage him,
12:20 pm
starting fire, taking a bow for putting it out. what do you think of that? >> i pretty much agree, neil. i don't know why people assumed turkey would go in there if u.s. troops were still there. if they had, struck u.s. troops, it would be a act of war coming from a nato ally. of course the president says they would go in no mater what, we would have to remove troops to get them out of the way. i'm not convinced turkey would have gone in there with u.s. troops in there. i was not a big fan going into syria in the first place. likes you don't go in without a plan you also don't leave without a plan. it is becoming very obvious that is exactly what happened. james jeffrey, trump's envoy to syria, he actually testified this week he didn't even know about it ahead of time. neil: yeah. tweeted out. it was tweeted out. to that point, i'm not here to disparage the president. he well telegraphed over the years we get ourselves involved in wars without end. we can come up with a rational
12:21 pm
keeping troops there longer. i get that. i understand that, but my only concern here is this is a nato ally in turkey erupted in this degree, working with russians that policed the same area that used to be our responsibility. so i don't even know why turkey is no nato in that case? that they are working with a sworn enemy of nato? >> this is a great question, neil. why is turkey in nato after they bought russian missile defense systems that are specifically trying to get down american missiles? neil: are they playing us? you're the expert on this but it just seems like, oh, man, they're pulling a fast one here, the turks i'm talking about? >> what did the turks get out of this? everything they wanted? what did the kurds, the united states get out of it? really nothing. you're trumpeting the fact they didn't go in and kill more
12:22 pm
people. i was surprised donald trump, thousands of people had to move a few miles away from their homes. would donald trump like it if trump tower was relocated to harlem say? i really doubt it. these are peoples lives. these are the homes. we also have heard that turkey is possibly committed war crimes. james jeffries there is at least one instance they do believe turkey did. turkey gets no punishment for this. what they have got is basically part of syria has become all but turkish territory. i think we got played, neil. i really do. neil: kelly jane, thank you very, very much. the cease-fire kelly jane alluded to would not be necessary in the first place had turks not fired their way into northern syria to begin with. now we're praising a cease-fire we hoped to make permanent because they say they won't do that anymore. where have we heard that before? shaq defending the houston
12:23 pm
rockets manager on the hong kong tweet. you hearing this lebron. >> people are speaking when they don't know what they're talking about. daryl morey was right, when you see something going on anywhere in the world you should have the right to say that's not right. i recently spoke to a group of students about being a scientist at 3m. i wanted them to know that innovation is not just about that one 'a-ha' moment. science is a process. it takes time, dedication. it's a journey. we're constantly asking ourselves,
12:24 pm
'how can we do things better and better?' what we make has to work. we strive to protect you. at 3m, we're in pursuit of solutions that make people's lives better. cologuard: colon cancer and older at average risk. at 3m, we're in pursuit of solutions i've heard a lot of excuses to avoid screening for colon cancer. i'm not worried. it doesn't run in my family. i can do it next year. no rush. cologuard is the noninvasive option
12:25 pm
that finds 92% of colon cancers. you just get the kit in the mail, go to the bathroom, collect your sample, then ship it to the lab. there's no excuse for waiting. get screened. ask your doctor if cologuard is right for you. covered by medicare and most major insurers. to earn j.d. power chevdependability awards... across cars... trucks... and suvs. four years in a row. since more than 32,000 real people... just like me. and me. and me. took the survey that decided these awards. it was only right that you hear the good news from real people... like us. i'm daniel. i'm casey. i'm julio. only chevy has earned j.d. power dependability awards across cars, trucks and suvs. four years in a row.
12:26 pm
fidelity has zero commissions for online u.s. equity trades and etfs, plus zero minimums to open a brokerage account. with value like this, there are zero reasons to invest anywhere else. fidelity. ♪ , might be a case of too little too late, hong kong officially withdrawn the controversial extradition bill. china analyst gordon chang said at this point it will do little to calm things down. always good to see you, where you could be picked up in hong kong for any variety of nefarious charges, go to china, and maybe never come back, caused a big to do to put it mildly but it is not gone. >> it is not gone. if they had done this in april, which was the first big extradition protest in hong kong, the protests would never gone on beyond that. what we're seeing, first of all they have got five demands.
12:27 pm
withdrawal the extradition bill is only one of them. they're even going beyond the five demands. so beijing is just sort of, i don't know what the chinese are actually thinking. but not doing anything, taking decisive action, they're fueling these protests. neil: the protests that we see, i always love when you're on, you can update me what is happening. told not to wear masks, they will make masks. they told me what will be arrested, i don't know what happens to those that do and are, where is all of that? >> there seems to be almost no end to this. because beijing doesn't want to introduce troops for a lot of reasons. if it does, it is probably going to have a year's long war which it very well may not win. these kids are willing to die. they're fighting on terrain which favors the defenders. every apartment building is a fort for the hong kong kids. i don't think china wants to put troops n a lot of people are saying, china will not introduce troops because it is confident it can prevail but everything
12:28 pm
beijing has been doing recently is fueling opposition to it. so i don't buy this argument that chinese leaders are confident. if they are, they're certainly deluded. neil: you're an expert on all things in this region. i will make you a basketball expert. seen with the nba, the dust-up from the stars, coaches, owners, now shaq, all of sudden taking a dig at lebron. they're free to speak their minds, any one of them, right? when it comes to doing business in china, china is just as free to respond, right? >> xi xinping is not only demanding obedience of foreign companies in china, he is demanding implementation of chinese policies but at the borders and inside. nba did with apology in the chinese language which was really craven. neil: craven, i like that. >> you know, neil, you can't expect any business organization to stand up to beijing.
12:29 pm
so it is not really the nba's fault. what it is -- neil: they got frightened, right? as soon as they said that the owner said that expressing sympathy for the protesters, china went ballistic. how do companies handle this sort of thing, even organizations like the nba? they could call the chinese bluff, all right, we're out of china. there go 400 million customers, right? >> it is really not up to any business organization to stand up to the chinese and we shouldn't expect them to. neil: but if china is threatening, gordon, the nba wants to stick to it globally, we're all about freedom of expression, that's certainly a novel concept in china but should they have stuck to their guns? >> i believe that they should but also i believe this is really up to president trump. he is the one who defines american foreign policy. he is the one who implements it. although we don't want to do this, i think we're going to get to a point, not in the too distant future. take chinese money, maintain a
12:30 pm
free marketplace of ideas in america. you can't have both. neil: made this part of our trade discussions maybe for good reason? >> those trade discussions are just covering a very narrow portion of our disagreements with china. they're just going to escalate. right now xi xinping is driving us to places, he driving us to make decisions we don't want to make but we'll have to do that. because wee have to defend our society. the chinese -- neil: you don't buy the argument that they need it more than we deal. they need the trait deal more than we do? >> they need the trade deal more more than we do. they have a political system i don't think xi xinping can do what is china's business. he owns the trade war. he is all accountability. he deinstitutionalized chinese economist party. he needs a 100% win. if he loses something like this, he could lose not just power but a hell after the lo more. he understands that.
12:31 pm
he will drive a extremely hard bar grain. president trump needs to be prepared. neil: we're hearing from the chinese if we don't remove the december tariffs they will not sign off on a phase one deal, whatever they're calling it. >> i agree that is probably the case. they have been using peoples daily, a lot of state media to say, this is like an infringement on china's sovereignty this is opium war stuff. when they raise national issues, it makes it difficult for them to compromise. neil: gordon chang, thank you very much. known this guy for many years. think about what he sacrificed and risked to give us the true skinny on china. we all get caught in the economic jargon. this was a personal life and death issue for him. that is how important it is. keep that in mind when you read his multiple best-sellers. the dow is up about 24 points. we have a big hearing on capitol hill featuring mr. zuckerberg how he is trying to defend capitalist interests to two
12:32 pm
parties not in the mood to hear him. rarely are republicans and democrats united on this. they hate the guy. after this. hmm. exactly. liberty mutual customizes your car insurance, so you only pay for what you need. nice. but, uh... what's up with your... partner? not again. limu that's your reflection. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty, liberty, liberty, liberty ♪ now you can, with shipsticks.com! no more lugging your clubs through the airport or risk having your clubs lost or damaged by the airlines. sending your own clubs ahead with shipsticks.com makes it fast & easy to get to your golf destination. with just a few clicks or a phone call, we'll pick up and deliver your clubs on-time,
12:33 pm
guaranteed, for as low as $39.99. shipsticks.com saves you time and money. make it simple. make it ship sticks. shipsticks.com saves you time and money. i wanted more that's why i've got the power of 1 2 3 medicines with trelegy. the only fda-approved 3-in-1 copd treatment. ♪ trelegy. the power of 1-2-3. ♪ trelegy 1-2-3 trelegy. with trelegy and the power of 1 2 3, i'm breathing better. trelegy works 3 ways to open airways, keep them open and reduce inflammation for 24 hours of better breathing. trelegy won't replace a rescue inhaler for sudden breathing problems. trelegy is not for asthma. tell your doctor if you have a heart condition or high blood pressure before taking it. do not take trelegy more than prescribed. trelegy may increase your risk of thrush, pneumonia, and osteoporosis. call your doctor if worsened breathing, chest pain, mouth or tongue swelling, problems urinating, vision changes, or eye pain occur. think your copd medicine is doing enough? maybe you should think again.
12:34 pm
ask your doctor about once-daily trelegy and the power of 1 2 3. ♪ trelegy 1-2-3 save at trelegy.com
12:35 pm
♪. neil: all right. mark zuckerberg has resumed testimony on capitol hill. he is speaking before the house financial services committee. the members on both sides by and large, he has a couple of republican supporters on that committee. not really supportive of a guy
12:36 pm
with all the controversies some saying so bad they want to break up the company, they don't want to look after privacy rights. no way we give a guy like this control of a digital currency called libra that could further cement his position as one of the world's most influential tech titans. that is given. they don't want to give him anymore power. when things get nasty. we're waiting for alexandria ocasio-cortez and host of others who will no doubt grilling him. he is not getting a lot of support on the republican side outside after couple mentioned the fact we're a fine one to question you how you handle your finances. that is neither here nor there. boeing shares in the meantime, they're up a little bit. might have to do with certain plane model might be back in the skies or the company hopes sooner than thought. jackie deangelis with all that. reporter: good afternoon to you, neil. it was a big miss from boeing
12:37 pm
this morning. i'm surprised this stock had a turnaround. i get to what analysts thought why it is trading in the green. eps estimates 1 heroin 45 versus the 2.09. that was expectation. revenues was 53% profit drop quarter on quarter. those are not great numbers. it comes down to the 737 max crisis. obviously something that the market has been focused on, something the company is focused on as well. now the company said it was sticking to its plan to return the 737 max jet to service in the fourth quarter. ceo dennis muilenburg said it was a top priority to return it safely to service. that is what analysts wanted to see here. look, they knew the 737 situation would be disaster for this company. it would take a while to dig out. credit suisse saying there was no incrementally negative news on the 737. that is what investors wanted to see here. they're taking this on the chin.
12:38 pm
hoping the company can move forward from there. there is still a cowell things to think about. tuesday, ousted kevin mccallister from the airplanes decision. look at the top executive departure, some wonder is dennis muilenburg next on the chopping block here? i want to draw your attention to the 787 production. that is a different plane. boeing will cutting production about that plane, it is worried about global trade tensions. that is something to worry about the broader dow stocks, what caterpillar is doing. that kind of thing. neil? neil: great reporting. jackie, thank you very much. we have charlie gasparino with us. we're following the democratic field. as you know there are 700 candidates in the race, joking, apparently -- >> 70 though. neil: but a lot of democrats are not satisfied with the field they got and thrown out a lot of names huh? >> we should point out this is a marathon. things could change.
12:39 pm
latest cnn poll had biden up. neil: picking up. >> whatever he is doing wrong is not, doesn't seem to be hurting him with voters. the thing i would tell you though there is lots of anxiety inside the democratic party among the big money donors who i speak to, bundlers they are known as. they bundle checks from different people. they're constantly talking to the big money. they're worried about biden's ability to stay in the race. they just don't, they think he is one major screw up in a debate away. neil: he has little cash on hand. >> this is stuff we at fox business were first to report. he has got money problems. it happened earlier. neil: right. >> a lot of people thought. who is the flavor of the month right now? clearly it is bloomberg. neil: michael bloomberg? >> if you talk to democratic party insiders they will tell you hillary can't do it. can't finance. you can't get in now with finance. a lot of money is already like
12:40 pm
sort of gone to various places, right? michelle obama is not going to happen. the only viable candidate that can do it now is someone like bloomberg who could sell finance because he is so rich. he has got, rumors, that he has $30 billion worth of treasury bonds laying around, which is cash. that is substantial his wealth is. neil: he wouldn't be a third party candidate. he would step in to claim the democratic prize? >> the people i speak to, put out, that bloomberg has not disbanded his campaign office. he still has five or six people he always had in there. a semiexploratory committee when he was seriously thinking, i'm putting it off, not doing it. those people are still there. what we are told is that the door is open a crack. so it is still a possibility. that is from inside of bloomberg. neil: he is one opened it a crack? >> still open. neil: is the party thirsting for
12:41 pm
him? >> nobody knows for sure. neil: he would be kind the out of zing progressive wing of the social like ral, political conservative. >> that is great point. he has got money. he could win a general election. that is the whole point. he has got money. he is more centrist. and i think the problem that the party brass is feeling right now, joe biden, five years ago would be a shoo-in, right? he would, he appeals to both democrats and republicans. he appeals to african-americanss a huge voting block than white millenials. so he has got a lot of good going for him except for the fact is he up to the task? there is a question about that. so who could be -- neil: up to the task in what way? >> endurance wise? can he do this. people worry about it. neil: he is 75? >> he is healthy fit, 75-year-old guy. you've seen some debate
12:42 pm
performances. they can be shaky. the fall back position is bloomberg. here is the thing about bloomberg. i, i talked to a lot of people. they tell me people that know him, yes, he wants to do it but he will be a no in the end. he just doesn't want to, pulling that trigger is -- neil: always been concerned about pulling independent trigger. you're right. way too early. >> by the way he can do this as late as january people are saying. neil: really? get on and get it moving. january is the date. that is pretty good. he can wait a little bit. too. neil: thank you my friend. you're not announcing? >> no, i'm announcing candidacy for new york city sanitation commissioner. neil: perfect. the judge is coming up. it is always fun when we talk about the college scams what kind of jail time. for a few of them it has gotten a little worrisome after this.
12:43 pm
♪. it's not "pretty good or nothing." it's not "acceptable or nothing." and it's definitely not "close enough or nothing." mercedes-benz suvs were engineered with only one mission in mind. to be the best. in the category, in the industry... in the world. lease the gla 250 suv for just $329 a month at your local mercedes-benz dealer. mercedes-benz. the best or nothing. i'm part of a community of problem solvers.
12:44 pm
we make ideas grow. from an everyday solution... to one that can take on a bigger challenge. from packaging tape... to tape that can bond materials to buildings... and planes. one idea can unlock a breadth of solutions. at 3m, we are solving problems that improve lives.
12:45 pm
when i found you i just knew one idea can unlock a breadth of solutions. we have our own style and our love is one of a kind ♪ strong brilliant unbreakable ♪ you found the one, now find the ring visit zales, the diamond store
12:46 pm
♪. neil: new charges in the college scam case. lori loughlin and 10 other parents who pled not guilty facing additional charges that could land loughlin in jail for decades. hard to say but we have judge andrew napolitano. what do you think? >> what i think the government is doing is horrendous. they are punishing people exercising their constitutional right to plead not guilty. they're charged with a basic bribery scheme, 40 people charged. 36, 37 plead not guilty. the government asks for jail time. they all, with the exemption of one of them got very, very small
12:47 pm
jail sentences. the government is not happy with those jail sentences. the government is not happy that it will have to try lori loughlin. in order to make her life more miserable they indict her and her husband again for higher crimes. that is absolutely wrong. it constitute as punishment for the fault of defending yourself. if the government has a case against someone, they present it all at once. they don't hold it back, and let it drip, drip, piecemeal to make it almost impossible to defend yourself. neil: now, if you force someone like that to settle, than risk going to trial. put them in a corner where the odds are dicey with all the added charges? >> correct. neil: how is that to the government's advantage? >> it exposes the person to a lot more jail time. neil: what are we talking about? >> another 10 years exposure. neil: 10 years? >> 10 years. the sentences have been very small. listen five minutes in jail can
12:48 pm
be horrendous. compared to what the government was asking for, these sentences have been two weeks, three weeks, four weeks, a month. the government was asking for eight months, 10 months, 12 months, 15 month. one of the reasons the sentences are short is because the government says these bribes caused a lot of harm. what harm? well, it caused somebody who should have gotten in, not to get in. they were replaced by the people's children who were unworthy of getting in. the probation department disproved that. the probation department, which also works for the attorney general said, there is no evidence that a qualified person was not admitted because an unqualified person was admitted. so there is no harm. wait a minute, if there is no harm, what's the crime? neil: how do you prove that, judge? if a set number of people to your -- princeton, tops in your class, when you got in, a set number of people got in. i think one in 20, right?
12:49 pm
so, someone didn't get in because you did, albeit with all the right qualities. so you could make a case for that right? >> that is the case the government made but there is no factual, that factual proof. hence the philosophical question, if there was no harm, what is the crime? shouldn't this be resolved in civil litigation? neil. they would have to prove the crime. >> because they can't prove the harm -- neil: two daughters got in was it to usc? >> correct. neil: on rowing scholarship. >> they were no more rowers than you and are ballerinas. neil: we don't want to go there. understood. >> point when the government said to the court that means that two worthy people didn't get in, it turns the out that was not the case. so the judge reduces the sentences. so in order to address that, they charge them with more
12:50 pm
crimes. so when these people come up, lori loughlin is the example, eventually plead guilty. instead of exposed to 15 months, she is exposed to 10 years because the government wants to show it's tough. neil: wow. judge, thank you very much. judge andrew napolitano. quick read on that. free beer, if you free yourself from social media. would you take that bet? would you follow up on that? >> gasparino would. neil: right away. right away. no commission. delivery drones, or the latest phones. no commission. no matter what you trade, at fidelity you'll pay no commission for online u.s. equity trades. at fidelity you'll pay no commission i get it all the time. "have you lost weight?" of course i have- ever since i started renting from national. because national lets me lose the wait at the counter... ...and choose any car in the aisle. and i don't wait when i return, thanks to drop & go.
12:51 pm
at national, i can lose the wait...and keep it off. looking good, patrick. i know. (vo) go national. go like a pro. that's why xfinity mobile lets you design your own data. you can share 1, 3, or 10 gigs of data between lines, mix in lines of unlimited, and switch it up at any time. all with millions of secure wifi hotspots and the best lte everywhere else. it's a different kind of wireless network, designed to save you money. switch and save up to $400 a year on your wireless bill.
12:52 pm
plus, get $250 back when you buy an eligible phone. that's simple. easy. awesome. call, click, or visit a store today.
12:53 pm
♪. neil: all right. beer call. you want a free miller lite? stop following miller lite. the beer company saying that few friends is better than a few thousand followers. it is encouraging a lot of its customers to unfollow them on
12:54 pm
social media. fox news contributor kat tim. fortunately doesn't drink but if you did? >> first of all miller lite is not beer. it is beerish water. no, i will not -- neil: hold on one second. miller lite advertise here? guys? okay. >> i don't like it. i like ipa, something with a little more of a flavor to it. neil: guinness now and then. >> maybe now and then. voodoo ranger is my jam. i was confused who was following miller lite on instagram anyway. i like beer just fine but my favorite think about it, is not looking at it. i never sat there looked at a can. neil: in a way it helps, it is a cause, company is behind getting us talking to each other rather than, social media each other. heightens attention that they
12:55 pm
even have a site. but i see what they're doing. i just don't know if people will make the connection? >> i think that it's a good message. we do spend too much time on social media. i know that i do. neil: it is your generation. >> i know. i absolutely do. i'm completely guilty of that. neil: i hear a lot about this internet but -- big deal. let me ask you meanwhile a study out, not checking work emails, from the boss or colleagues can cause a lot of stress. do you buy that? >> i do buy that actually. i know the knee-jerk reaction if you can't check work email at home, it will make you less stressed. if i wasn't honestly check work email, i wouldn't be here. i got the email. neil: kat, can you come on? >> on my way to the gym. you saved me from the treadmill. that opens up, you work where you want. every time i had an idea for one of midtores i would go into the office.
12:56 pm
i would never wouldn't leave. neil: in our profession you have to be up what is going on. i'm always checking markets, right? it rattles me out of the loop not hearing something. >> same with me. i have the opposite problem the need to put it down. it is about balance. constantly refreshing work email, put it away but i think it is good to have the option to do a little work from home if you want to do that. neil: we're getting too slavish to this. >> yeah. talk to people. bottom line, talk to people. if you can stand it. neil: or either drink. if you can't stand it. kat, always great seeing you. thanks for responding with the email to come on. >> yeah. neil: we have mark zuckerberg. taking heat on capitol hill. here is how dicey things are for him. both republicans and democrats can't stand him. after this. to band shopping list.
12:57 pm
perfect. peyton, what are you doing? nationwide's teamed up with amazon to bring you the all-new echo auto. you're gonna love this. alexa, add "xylophone" to band shopping list. (alexa) okay. we don't need a band shopping list. alexa and i disagree. alexa, add "positive attitude" to band shopping list. (alexa) added "positive attitude" to band shopping list. that's for you. you need it. join nationwide now and get a free amazon echo auto.
12:58 pm
no, just a sec. what would it look like if we listened more? could the right voice, the right set of words, bring us all just a little closer? get us to open up? even push us further? it could, if we took the time to listen. the most inspiring minds, the most compelling stories. download audible and listen for a change. now you can, with shipsticks.com!
12:59 pm
no more lugging your clubs through the airport or risk having your clubs lost or damaged by the airlines. sending your own clubs ahead with shipsticks.com makes it fast & easy to get to your golf destination. with just a few clicks or a phone call, we'll pick up and deliver your clubs on-time, guaranteed, for as low as $39.99. shipsticks.com saves you time and money. make it simple. make it ship sticks. shipsticks.com saves you time and money. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪
1:00 pm
around the world, misinformation is division and misinformation across north america and europe, facebook has been systemically found at the scene of the crime. you think that's just a coincidence? sir? >> well, congressman, we operate in almost every country in the world except for china and north korea, so i think we would be in almost every country where different activities are happening. neil: all right. just check off one less like there. zuckerberg taking the heat right now on capitol hill, speaking as he is still before the house financial services committee. ostensibly the purpose of this
1:01 pm
hearing was to explore his efforts to, with a consortium of others, work on a digital currency called libra that a number of partners have since dropped from. they include mastercard and visa and paypal, whathave you, but growing concerns not so much of the idea of a digital currency which is a grand plan and his strategy behind it is not that bad, it's just all the baggage that comes with it, if you want to get to do it with him. this as 47 states and u.s. territories are looking at facebook on antitrust grounds and many wanting to break it up. a number of democratic questioners today urging just that. the "wall street journal" editorial board member james freeman, market watcher danielle shay and edward stran. the idea that digital or cryptocurrencies, whatever you want to call them, there's a fine model to be made for it, whether he is the guy to deliver it is the question. right? >> exactly. whether he's the guy to deliver it is the question, because the thing is, facebook has a huge
1:02 pm
reach, right, over two billion people and it already has so many privacy issues. so if you take those facts and then add in a currency that they can control, then they are -- neil: he said he wouldn't control. he says there would be this consortium, kind of like a separate part of facebook. i think that's how it was explained. it went right over my head. what do you think of that? >> yeah, and also tied to the u.s. dollar which is very different from a bitcoin model. neil: and a host of others. basket of others. >> yeah, where people really want an alternative to government-created currencies but that large reach which can concern some people also, for a customer, may be very reassuring that you know that if you use this currency it's going to be widely accepted, widely used. i think that's always an issue with any new payment technology, is it going to be something, and this is where bitcoin has struggled. if you go outside here, you're not going to find a lot of
1:03 pm
retailers that take bitcoin. i think from that perspective -- [ speaking simultaneously ] neil: very questionable guy but he does take it. edward, where is this going? i have always argued that with so many vested interests, the u.s. treasury, federal reserve, attorney general barr, the australians, the brits, the french, the germans, they are all concerned about this. they are all concerned not necessarily about libra, but any of this, because they think it eclipses the system we have and maybe threatens it. >> sure. so bitcoin meant to completely eclipse it, go around it. that had a lot of problems. i actually think the economic model behind libra and the technological proposals are actually really interesting but i think he's precisely the wrong person. neil: what makes libra interesting? i know it cuts down on the volatility you see out of bitcoin precisely because it's pegged to this basket of currencies, goods, et cetera. >> we have all these intermediaries who have backed
1:04 pm
out, like paypal and major payment processors who actually have the expertise to make sure that payments are processed very quickly. they were on board. the fact that bitcoin takes ten minutes or whatever the number is these days to clear is not a viable model to scale up. so -- neil: it was supposed to be 1,000 transactions a second. >> yeah. i think it was just a fantastic idea but he's the wrong person at the wrong time. people have a lack of trust in him, his company, expanding the scope of what people agree to, changing terms of privacy after the fact. so i am hoping that something like this would work but not from him. neil: you know, what's fascinating, it's a volatile investment, to put it mildly, facebook, but the stock is still up north of 40% this year. i always find it fascinating because people say it's too big for its britches, has to be
1:05 pm
broken up. maybe part of its runup is anticipation of that, i don't know. remarkable how it and he have held up. >> it is, absolutely. that's the thing about facebook, though. even though there are so many issues, two billion people are still using the platform and they are still making all kinds of money. so at the end of the day, investors care about companies that make money and they are kind of ignoring the privacy issues at this point. neil: you know, what i see, this is the opening salvo going after all the fang names, amazons, netflix, whathave you, google, and this is just the opening round, that all of these guys are under the gun. >> yeah. i think to this point, while there are a lot of headlines, you still have customers wanting to trade their privacy for free stuff for companies like facebook. i also think we haven't seen from the doj a real case on consumer harm. what we have heard to this point is they're looking into it.
1:06 pm
then on the regulatory side, it's usually regulations help big incumbents in an industry. so facebook may end up helping to write regulations but certainly the history would say they're going to be okay, it's the -- neil: one way or the other, right? >> -- industry is going to grow more slowly and maybe upstarts don't get the chance to be created. neil: i mentioned amazon. they are planning to invest a lot of money, billions, we are told, to police products on its site that are not reliable, that you might have had this yourself, something happens, you say what the heck, this is not the velvet painting i ordered, this is something totally different. what do you make of this, that amazon, the very fact it wants to address this, has a problem with this? >> i think it's very important and great, actually. the market needs to have trust and the marketplace called amazon needs to have reliable products. there's a lot of unfortunately counterfeit products showing up and people are not happy.
1:07 pm
neil: how did they get a place on amazon? >> well, they are a relatively open platform. neil: an aggregator? >> third party vendors will come list their products on amazon and it's very difficult for one company, in this case amazon, to be peering over all products. now, the consumer can complain, i'm sure it happened to all of us, we buy something that wasn't what we wanted and so amazon has an incentive to provide private rules and regulations, private governance, by the way, my favorite book on the topic by me, the company needs to ferret out fraud. neil: i admire that about you. you would be hawking stuff on amazon right now. you know what's weird about it, too, though, and i know you are the company you keep, and by and large, i'm told there are some statistics on amazon that returns are actually a very very small percentage overall, for a lot of people i suspect it's just a hassle but there are people who have dealt with a disreputable retailer or some
1:08 pm
merchant that is not up to snuff. how is amazon going the police that, then could it hurt itself by making it too stringent? for the retailers that advertise? >> i think this is better for amazon that they get ahead of this, because it's something that could potentially go out of control. but i think the best way they can do it is just the way that -- neil: didn't they cite years ago that that was rigged, some people, it was fake, you know? >> yes, there definitely has been some of that. people getting paid for specific reviews and things like that. neil: i had a book out, i reviewed my own book, outstanding. i'm exaggerating to make the point. the ratings system itself is -- you did that yourself, right? >> yeah, well, this was i guess a branding question, does amazon, do they want it to mean to people premium products, or do they want it to mean a huge
1:09 pm
marketplace, some premium, some not, some reliable, some a little shadier. neil: walmart's counter to that is just that, that we know in our universe, we can stand by everything. we know who they are. we know what they are. >> but that's the model, that even walmart, thanks to great reporting by our colleagues at the "journal" showing that oftentimes for all the big retailers, they may end up getting products from factories in the third world, they don't realize that that's where they originated, they may not realize that or have done the work to ensure -- neil: it happens to established brands. it seems to happen disproportionately to amazon because of its size. >> the customer's got to know. the customer's also got to know you are going to pay more if you want us to make sure that no factory without appropriate heat and lighting and fire escapes is ever producing a product. neil: would we get that far, though? where people at home can decide? >> i think they do a great job at rating the products.
1:10 pm
we can see oh, the consumers like that but when you have ten different resellers -- neil: who aggregates that? like these restaurant reviews, great restaurant. >> amazon corporation aggregates these reviews and they do also have to ferret out the fake reviews. that's a major problem. neil: fake reviews that are good and bad. >> a lot of these platforms. we have to make sure the reviews are good of the product but then also, the third party reseller. i think it's very important what they're doing. private rules and regulations of their marketplace. neil: all right. it's their word, their gospel, their reputation. all right. we will take a quick break here. the president just announcing a permanent syrian cease-fire. a lot of people are criticizing from left and the right that he's taking an early bow for putting out a fire that he created. after this. we trust usaa more than any other company out there. they give us excellent customer service, every time. our 18 year old was in an accident. usaa took care of her car rental,
1:11 pm
and getting her car towed. all i had to take care of was making sure that my daughter was ok. if i met another veteran, and they were with another insurance company, i would tell them, you need to join usaa because they have better rates, and better service. we're the gomez family... we're the rivera family... we're the kirby family, and we are usaa members for life. get your auto insurance quote today. i'm part of a community of problem solvers. we make ideas grow. from an everyday solution...
1:12 pm
to one that can take on a bigger challenge. from packaging tape... to tape that can bond materials to buildings... and planes. one idea can unlock a breadth of solutions. at 3m, we are solving problems that improve lives.
1:13 pm
1:14 pm
neil: all right. little over an hour ago, the president announcing a permanent cease-fire, as permanent as you can get in syria. blake burman at the white house with the details and the fallout of that. not everyone's buying it, blake. what are you hearing? reporter: the president even acknowledged, neil, when he described this as a permanent cease-fire between turkish and kurdish forces in the northern part of syria that that word permanent is tenuous when you are talking about that region of the world. the president, though, saying that because of this cease-fire, sanctions against turkey will be removed. the commander in chief adding it is time to let someone else fight in the quote, blood-stained sand, and says that partners in the region will ensure that isis doesn't become a beneficiary of the u.s. withdrawal. >> now turkey, syria and others in the region must work to ensure that isis does not regain
1:15 pm
any territory. it's their neighborhood. they have to maintain it. they have to take care of it. reporter: however, up on capitol hill today, james jeffrey, the u.s. special envoy to syria, testified that more than 100 isis fighters have now escaped from prisons in that region. yesterday during a separate hearing, he also acknowledged that those isis fighters might go unaccounted for. further fueling questions about what a diminished u.s. presence will mean in the fight against isis. >> do we have any idea how those escaped isis fighters will be tracked, accounted for and recaptured? >> at the moment, we don't. reporter: neil, the president also says that some u.s. troops will remain behind to make sure that the oil fields in that area are not seized. he also warned turkey that should they not live up to the expectations of this cease-fire, then those sanctions will
1:16 pm
resume. a live look at the white house right now. i'm standing on the north side of it, just on the back side of it. you might have heard those sounds there in the beginning of our report. that was marine one landing. we expect to hear from the president shortly where assuredly he will take more questions on this. neil: thank you very, very much. blake burman. back with my panel right now. james, danielle, edward. edward, it's always in the details, whether in this case, the turks follow through and do what they say they are going to do, but the one thing that the president didn't address here is the fact that the russians are going to be part of this force that will be policing in northern syria, and this was something that probably would not have happened in light of the events, in other words, the russians are working with turkey, a nato member, a u.s. ally, it's weird. >> it certainly is. but i think one thing that the
1:17 pm
president really stuck to his guns on is that look, we're in too many different wars in too many different countries, he calls it the blood-stained sands -- neil: without end. he telegraphed it, of course. this was not immediately telegraphed to the generals involved. sort of a tweet. >> yeah, this has been going on for five years. we have these other ones going on for 18 years. just to say look, we can't solve all of the world's problems, unfortunately. george washington said that relations with all trade with all entanglements with none. i think the president is sticking to that position that he's been talking about for a long time. it's quite remarkable. neil: i covered george washington. i don't think he would -- i did cover washington. jefferson. another thing that's interesting about this, i get the president is no stranger to we got to get out of this region, we are getting involved in wars without
1:18 pm
end, it's how he did it in this case, tweeting out this move that stunned everyone. they knew where he was coming from. they understood where he was coming from. i suspect the president has his finger on the pulse of most americans when it comes to support for pulling out of regions like this. but this might have made a situation more dicey, right? >> well, you know, this is really how he does business. he announces on twitter. neil: in variably, fairly or not, people will trace it to this. >> today in the press conference he spoke to that and said most of the isis members were captured. he seems to have some, you know, strengths in the fact that turkey's going to take care of it. i don't know if that's actually going to happen. [ speaking simultaneously ] neil: i would have concerns about that. anyway, what do you think? >> yeah, i think the whole question is is this going to
1:19 pm
lead to revitalization of isis. he has to address that both for our own security and i think that's the political imperative for him as well. you look at polls of republican voters and they are less eager than republican members of the house for us to be there permanently or to be seeking regime change. you always had that tension where he hired a lot of foreign policy advisers who wanted regime change. he had the more modest ambition of stopping isis. i think if he achieves that, this will be long-term seen as a positive. neil: what do we do if the turks cheat? if they don't honor this cease-fire, they just -- >> i think many -- neil: there will be sanctions? >> that's what the president says. we will use economic sanctions. i think we should be thinking about alternatives to just wars all the time. a lot of americans are fed up with seeing their relatives or others dying over there. neil: he made a very compelling
1:20 pm
point of saying he's tired of going to dover and seeing the caskets of young men and women who come back from battle and seeing their families. i get that. but i'm wondering if the way this was played out maybe raises the possibility of still more disruption. >> i mean, there's been disruption, constant disruption over the past ten years and the previous president said oh, well, i'll solve the problem. no, he didn't. he caused things to get worse, i would argue. the fact we are doing an about-face on this looks pretty good. neil: we'll see. the president had the same goal, extracting the united states from this region. we always get right back in. we'll see what happens here. as i say, the market's worried about the whole turkish crisis, whatever you want to call it, they have been holding their own. we'll see if that justified. meantime, biogen continuing to rise after reviving plans for an alzheimer's treatment that might not be a cure, but is sure as heck more promising than anyone thought. even biogen. after this.
1:21 pm
when you're looking for answers, it's good to have help. because the right information, at the right time, may make all the difference. at humana, we know that's especially true when you're looking for a medicare
1:22 pm
supplement insurance plan. that's why we're offering seven things every medicare supplement should have. it's yours free just for calling the number on your screen. and when you call, a knowledgeable licensed agent-producer can answer any questions you have, and help you choose the plan that's right for you. the call is free, and there's no obligation. you see, medicare covers only about 80 percent of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up to you. that's why so many people purchase medicare supplement insurance plans, like those offered by humana. they're designed to help you save money and pay some of the costs medicare doesn't. depending on the medicare supplement plan you select, you could have no deductibles or co-payments for doctor visits, hospital stays, emergency care and more. you can keep the doctors you have now, ones you know and trust, with no referrals needed. plus you can get medical care anywhere in the country, even when you're travelling. with humana, you get a competitive monthly premium and personalized service from a
1:23 pm
healthcare partner working to make healthcare simpler and easier for you. you can chose from a wide range of standardized plans. each one is designed to work seamlessly with medicare and help save you money. so how do ya find the plan that's right for you? one that fits your needs and your budget? call humana now at the number on your screen for this free guide. it's just one of the ways that humana is making healthcare simpler. and when you call, a knowledgeable licensed agent-producer can answer any questions you have, and help you chose the plan that's right for you. the call is free and there's no obligation. you know medicare won't cover all your medical costs, so call now! and see why a medicare supplement plan from a company like humana, just might be the answer.
1:24 pm
neil: all right. believe it or not, boeing shares are up right now, optimism about the eventual re-flying of the 737 max. that's of course the hope, at least, that's been a big quagmire for the company for upwards of a year plus. gerri willis at the new york stock exchange following that and all the trading activity. hey, gerri. gerri: quagmire's the right word. investors buoyed by boeing, reiterating their commitment to getting that 737 max jet back in service by the end of the year. it's been a big question. now, the stock had been whipsawing for the better part of three days. today, it rallied early in the day as much as 4% despite a disappointing earnings report. boeing posting a wider than expected bottom line loss, says it will now delay deliveries of its 777x plane until 2021. shares now, as you can see, up
1:25 pm
about a little more than half a percent, at $339.44. meanwhile, caterpillar shares rebounding after being down as much as 6%. cat lowering its full year guidance in this earnings report. caterpillar's ceo citing lower inventory at dealers and declining demand amid uncertainty surrounding china trade and the global economy. that stock, as you can see, up about 1%. apple hitting a new all-time high after morgan stanley raised its price target from $247 to $289. the analyst citing their bullish forecasts on revenue growth from its apple tv plus and streaming service, that is, which launches november 1st. apple shares also higher here. neil? neil: thank you very much, gerri willis at the new york stock exchange. by the way, we are hearing the press has already been escorted to the south lawn ahead of the president's departure. he's going to be in pittsburgh for a shale conference, talking up u.s. energy independence. so we'll wait.
1:26 pm
he usually does take questions. he could go on for quite awhile. i think you know the drill. he speaks, the tape, it isn't tape anymore, it's all di digitized. it's delayed getting to us with all this technology. when we get it, we play it for you so you can find out exactly what the president had to say. meantime, shaq is taking on lebron and the subject has nothing to do with basketball per se. after this. ♪
1:27 pm
i get it all the time. "have you lost weight?" of course i have- ever since i started renting from national. because national lets me lose the wait at the counter... ...and choose any car in the aisle. and i don't wait when i return, thanks to drop & go. at national, i can lose the wait...and keep it off.
1:28 pm
looking good, patrick. i know. (vo) go national. go like a pro. on a scale of one to five? one to five? it's more like five million. there's everything from happy to extremely happy. there's also angry. i'm really angry clive! actually, really angry. thank you. but what if your business could understand what your customers are feeling... and then do something about it. turn problems into opportunities. thanks drone. customers into fanatics change the whole experience. alright who wants to go again? i do! i do! i have a really good feeling about this.
1:29 pm
fidelity has zero commissions for online u.s. equity trades and etfs,
1:30 pm
plus zero minimums to open a brokerage account. one of our best values living in america is free speech. we're allowed to say what we want to say and we're allowed to speak up about injustices. that's just how it goes. if people don't understand that, that's something they have to deal with. you know, i just think it was unfortunate for both parties, you got people speaking when they don't know what they're talking about. but whenever you see something wrong going on anywhere in the world, you should have the right to say that's not right. neil: i think they call this a shaq attack. shaquille o'neal defending houston rockets general manager darryl morey's hong kong tweet in support of protesters while taking a shot at lebron james. we've got our cast of characters back with us right now.
1:31 pm
edward, i'm looking at this thinking all right, where does this go? it's all about business, right? the nba isn't going to turn away from china. >> yeah, but the thing that worries me is now every american has to be worried about kowtowing to the communists in china to say well, i don't want to offend the communists here, what would they want me to say. now we are unintentionally -- neil: that's always been going on, right? >> i mean, we are unintentionally defending them without our knowledge. so i think shaquille o'neal was spot-on right to say no, this is not our job. we should be able to stand up for what we believe in. neil: all right. so if you stand up for what you believe in, you think the treatment of the protesters is offensive, if china comes back and says then get the hell out of here, then, we won't have the nba in china, then it becomes a big economic issue, right? >> yes, it does. shaq is standing up for what he believes in. i think it's really important. that's part of our american ideals, free speech, right?
1:32 pm
but then you also have to look at the money here. the nba makes a ton of money in china. they have a huge population base, it's very popular there. that's what it's going to come down to. neil: the chinese tell you to shut up, shut up? >> you are a capitalist. >> i do like my money. neil: what do you think? >> no, you don't shut up. kudos to shaq. those comments were shaq-tacular. neil: i see what you did there. >> it's really important to realize that this isn't a question of nba players going to china and insulting xi jinping and calling him a tyrant and dictator running an illegitimate government, although all those things are true. all the message from darryl morey of the houston rockets was, was chinese government, honor the promises you've made to your people in hong kong. to the people of hong kong in that special administrative region. it's not asking anything except
1:33 pm
what the government there promised. neil: even if it rests, though, the nba gets china a little annoyed and tells you to go? >> obviously the nba has -- china is their big growth story. u.s. tv ratings, not good lately. this is the growth market. i think one thing you do wonder, it's about 10% of current league revenues, given those hundreds of millions of basketball fans over there we keep hearing about, why isn't it higher? i don't know if this is another case where maybe the intellectual property isn't getting compensated as much as it should. neil: you realize that the chinese really haven't changed when it comes to strong-arming. >> i'm wondering is this another company or league, i guess, business from the u.s. looking at this huge market and thinking the future is going to be really amazing and maybe not. neil: it's not. all right. i want to go to washington right now. we are learning of republican lawmakers storming a closed door impeachment session. i think that's what happened. chad pergram with the latest
1:34 pm
from capitol hill. what's going on? reporter: well, remember a couple years ago, house democrats took to the house floor to stage a sit-in over guns. that's essentially what house republicans have done today in the house intelligence committee. the pentagon official laura cooper was to appear for a closed door transcribed interview. the three committees have been dealing with this, the oversight committee, intelligence committee and foreign affairs committee, and they haven't been admitting members who are not on those panels. so right behind me here earlier this morning, you had about 25 or 30 members who kind of stormed the intelligence committee, the scif as we call it, the secure compartmentalized information facility. that's a lockdown room where they take classified information and information that otherwise might be sensitive. well, they basically didn't start the session with laura cooper. she is still sitting in a room off to the side right there. the democrats are trying to wait them out and here's the other problem. the house sergeant-at-arms, paul
1:35 pm
irving, was called because now the scif is not secure. there were members who are not members of those committees who took their electronic devices and phones into the room. that's a problem. that is a violation of house rules and one source told me those members could be subject to an ethics complaint. you're not supposed to do that. here's the other issue. it's not unheard of to have members of congress get permission of a committee chair if they're not on one committee to sit in on an interview or hearing of another committee, but it's kind of a gentleperson's agreement. members are usually loathe to go in and break those rules because if you are goring that person's ox today, they may try to gore your ox tomorrow. they basically blew that up today. they say it was worth it, the republicans did, because they think the democrats are handling this in such inappropriate fashion. we don't know what this means for testimony today from laura cooper, who still hasn't started. she was supposed to start about 10:00 this morning. or if they will ever get to her, frankly. neil: amazing. chad, thank you very much. guys, we are just getting word
1:36 pm
rashida tlaib, the michigan democratic congresswoman, is questioning mark zuckerberg right now. can we peek in on this? she is a known critic of facebook and its policies. >> the time has expired. we have people waiting. thank you. we would like the answer in writing, though, any questions that you have not answered. the gentleman from tennessee, mr. rose, is recognized for five minutes. >> thank you, chairwoman waters and mr. zuckerberg. neil: she was talking about whether facebook is the entity to go ahead and come up with the digital currency but more than that, whether it has gotten too big for its britches. that is the view shared by the likes of alexandria ocasio-cortez and others. that line of questioning that they shouldn't even be entertaining this company having anything to do with digital currency is going to be a very very big issue going forward. by and large, most of the wrath for one of the world's richest men has been coming from
1:37 pm
democrats but not exclusively. a number of republicans have said simply that he doesn't run a fair enterprise. certainly not a fair and balanced enterprise, and the back-and-forth as to whether he polices political advertising in general, democrats say he does it to the favor of republicans, republicans say that he does it to the favor of democrats, so he can't win in all of this. but this exchange really comes back to whether he is the messenger for a message that includes an alternative to the u.s. dollar. so far, both sides seem to be saying no, you are not. more after this. heading into retirement you want to follow your passions rather than worry about how to pay for long-term care. brighthouse smartcare℠ is a hybrid life insurance and long-term care product. it protects your family while providing long-term care coverage, should you need it. so you can explore all the amazing things ahead. talk to your advisor about brighthouse smartcare. brighthouse financial.
1:38 pm
build for what's ahead℠
1:39 pm
it's the idea that if our mothers were diagnosed with cancer, how would we want them to be treated? that's exactly how we care for you. with answers and actions. to hear your concerns, quiet your fears, lift your spirits. that's the mother standard of care. this is how we inspire hope. this is how we heal. cancer treatment centers of america. appointments available now.
1:40 pm
neil: all right. meantime, we have laura cooper testifying on capitol hill. a good many are still in it. the question is whether at this time mark zuckerberg is the guy to deliver the goods. he might not be the messenger.
1:41 pm
let's go to my friend charles payne. how do you think this is all going for him? charles: about as planned. i will say, i think he's stumbled a little out the gate. wasn't prepared for maxine waters' questions about fact-checking which i thought was a pretty good question. obviously they have said they are not going to fact-check certain political ads but it feels like they don't fact-check anything unless there's complaints, then they will have some sort of independence body look into it. i thought that was fascinating. he does, he's obviously been schooled, he's prepared, he's trying to hit their individual hot buttons, whether it's the china threat with conservatives, whether it's the ability to help folks in the lower economic ladder, you know, get banking accounts or financial accounts. so he's trying to please everyone there. it was a tall mission for him but the stock is hanging in there right now. neil: you know what's interesting, too, i think when you had maxine waters questioning him on fact-checking political ads, she was referring to those supporting donald trump, republican conservative
1:42 pm
ads, he should have said i don't check facts on your ads, either. but it was an opportunity for him to say i just don't get into the weeds on that, and he didn't take the low-hanging fruit there. having said that, where do you think this goes for just a digital currency like this, whatever you want to call it? i always think it's out there, this was maybe an interesting alternative, something backed by, you know, a variety of different commodities including currencies like our own, so on paper, it made, maybe still makes sense. what do you think? charles: i was always suspicious of bitcoin. that's why i never got involved. this magical formula, x amount will be broken out. but when you start to talk about putting it inside of a company like facebook, with two billion users, making it easier to do transactions, making it easier to send money around the world, it's a viable option to fiat currency. that's why the federal reserve is so afraid. in fact, that's why establishment types, i mean, it's really rare when you can
1:43 pm
get maxine waters, donald trump and jay powell on the same page. neil: that's right. that's right. charles: that's what libra has done. neil: you know what's interesting about it, too, i always felt like that technology, whatever you want to call it, must be scaring a lot of established powers that be, the world order, when you have the treasury against it, are concerned about it, the attorney general, the governments of germany, france, england, italy. so i'm thinking well, that's weird, because the mob is a big fan of this, right? i just found it kind of interesting that there is a worldwide series of folks who are concerned that this would upset the world order. charles: you are 100% right. i understand the pushback that it helps to facilitate illegal activities but my next question or statement is what are they using now? they're not having a hard time doing illegal stuff with dollars and euros. neil: you're exactly right. meanwhile, somewhere there's a tony soprano saying what's the
1:44 pm
big deal. charles payne, thank you very much. he's coming up a little more than 15 minutes from now. we've got the dow up 27 points. mark zuckerberg is being raked through the coals. he's holding his own here and this stock, say what you will of the wild ride it's been on, is up north of 41% on the year. so he's got to be doing something right. after this. obvious. sometimes, they just drop in. cme group can help you navigate risks and capture opportunities. we enable you to reach global markets and drive forward with broader possibilities. cme group - how the world advances. ♪
1:45 pm
hey. ♪hey. you must be steven's phone. now you can take control of your home wifi and get a notification the instant someone new joins your network... only with xfinity xfi. download the xfi app today.
1:46 pm
1:47 pm
neil: all right. the president is en route right now to pittsburgh, pennsylvania. he will be going to a shale conference, talking up american energy independence. before he left the white house, de have a chance to talk to reporters. this was that moment. >> we're going to pennsylvania on an energy meeting and speech, and look forward to it. i hope you saw what i had to say about the safe zone in syria and
1:48 pm
our dealing with turkey. it's been very successful. we'll see what happens. it's a very volatile part of the world but so far it's been pretty amazing what's gone on. we've lost no soldiers, we didn't have a soldier hurt, we didn't have a finger broken. pretty unusual. and we have thousands of soldiers that have moved out or are moving out of various areas. we have it under very good control. turkey has done what we've asked them to do. we have tremendous economic might, far more than we had relatively speaking when i took office. when i took office, everybody said that china would be the largest economy in the world within the first two years, and we've picked up trillions and trillions of dollars of worth and china has lost trillions of dollars of worth. so we are far and away the most powerful economy in the world and if you have a smart
1:49 pm
president,there. other than that, our military is looking good, it's been rebuilt, and we're respected again. but i'm going right now, i'll be going over to pennsylvania and many of you, i hope, will be following me. thank you. neil: that time he did not take questions. made a statement and normally he does field questions from reporters. but he didn't. so that's that. james freeman, obviously he will be going to pennsylvania, one of the big things he's going to be arguing about in a state that obviously joe biden is visiting this day in scranton, where he comes from, that's an important state. he won it by about, what, 45,000 votes. if he can carry it again, it's a big big win for him. on that regard, that's the wind at his back. he keeps referring to those gains, the energy independence, the strong market, the strong economy, china sputtering, us not. how is it resonating? >> well, it's certainly
1:50 pm
resonating in that the economy is the one issue consistently in polling where he gets the approval rating edge. he's at 50% plus on that. that's where he's obviously got the strong suit. joe biden there today, i think what he's got to say, other than i was born in scranton, we moved out in the eisenhower administration, what he's got to say is here's my plan for growth. i think if he's successfully defined himself to this point saying i'm not going to do the radical changes of sanders or warren but i think he also needs a message for how he's going to improve upon what's been a pretty good economy under president trump. neil: you know, we were saying during the previous break here that the one thing going for him is the same thing bill clinton had going for him facing impeachment, would you really want to disrupt this. even those on wall street who love money didn't want to risk losing that. would the same apply and help this president now? >> i absolutely think the same applies. wall street is going to want a
1:51 pm
president who is in charge, who still is working very hard on the economy, has great numbers, it continues to grow, the stock market is climbing higher, wall street is not going to want somebody in there that's attacking them every which direction. so i definitely think that it works in his favor and right now, it seems to me he's campaigning, right. neil: a lot of people are doing that. you know, one of the things he said, you touched on it too, he might really have his finger on the pulse of the american people regarding this whole turkey thing. there are a lot of military types, security types, who are frantic about how this helps isis, how the russians are involved. most americans kind of agree with the president on we get involved in wars without end and no one, no one can pull out. >> right. i agree with that. it's america first, in this case, we want to do our thing. we don't want to waste money, we don't want to lose our lives in other countries for unknown benefits and focusing here, for example, on letting businesses
1:52 pm
grow, the tax cuts i think were very good for markets, deregulation, that's encouraging more investment and financial activity in the united states, and i think a lot of people are happy with that. just let us do our thing. that's it. neil: yeah. we talk about the good economy, we talk about those who want to even make it better for themselves. chipotle, the big mexican food eatery, wants to dramatically expand its drive-throughs. i didn't even know they had drive-throughs. but i guess they're going to. and that that's going to really pick up. one of the reasons with mcdonald's, even though the latest earnings period disappointed, i guess, is their quick response time at their drive-through. chipotle must be looking at that. right? >> yes. i believe chipotle did the case study of about 20 stores or so and proved it was a great business model. i think it's going to be great for chipotle. it's one of my favorite stocks as it is. we like to call it a honey badger because it doesn't care
1:53 pm
what the rest of the market's doing. it's moved higher regardless. neil: it has a legion of loyalists and drive-throughs are a big reason. i can remember long before drive-throughs became popular that they relied on just people dare i say walking in. and ordering stuff. what do you think of that? >> yeah, drive-through or at the counter, i'm just hoping they put the food born illness problems behind them. those were disturbing because they were not all one incident but kind of unrelated, suggesting a systemic problem. kudos to them if they have really gotten beyond that. obviously it was a marketing challenge to persuade customers to keep coming and seems that they have. neil: i don't know if this is going to work for christiano ronaldo but he's reportedly bringing in nearly a million bucks every time he sends out a paid instagram ad. that's more money than he made playing soccer. i don't know whether he would err on the side of, you know, a drive-through chipotle with that. what do you think of that? >> it's just unbelievable.
1:54 pm
he's getting more money off of this website or this thing on your phone than he's making through soccer. but this is showing the importance of information. people care about knowledge and people are now relying more on individuals to share their ideas, and if he's considered a trustworthy source, they are willing to say yes, he posted about this product, it must be true. i must buy it. neil: the ad that does it and he's of course, an international, you know, personality, but that's a lot, isn't it? that's a lot of money based on that. >> it is. that's a lot of money but being an influencer is a very real thing. social media has completely changed the way that advertising works now. you have kids growing up now wanting to create their own youtube channel. you have lori loughlin's daughter olivia jade didn't even want to go to usc. she wanted to be an influencer on instagram. neil: i thought she wanted to go into rowing. let me ask you a little about that. we talk about the social media.
1:55 pm
it all kind of comes together at the end of the show here that the role of social media, the influence of social media, policing social media, the truthfulness of social media, that's where the action is, that's where a lot of people get their news, where a lot of people sort of find where the big bucks are. it is the ultimate arbiter, isn't it? >> yes, in some ways this peer-to-peer starting out where we are going to leave out these third parties, at the same time, now, people are more and more worried that the peer platform, as in facebook, is now starting to police people's ideas. so i think it's this constant conflict. i actually, back in the olden days, was like oh, this is great, i can see cat videos whenever i want. true story, but, you know -- neil: freeman had old videos of paul voelker raising rates. oh, my god. >> my colleagues at the
1:56 pm
"journal" the other day had an interesting piece about how a bunch of marketers are starting to question the value of these influencer deals. do we really get the payback on what someone has in a tweet or instagram post. ronaldo might have hit the high water mark there. neil: i'm open to processed cheeses. quick break here. we'll be right back. if your gums bleed when you brush, you may have gingivitis. and the clock could be ticking towards bad breath, receding gums, and possibly... tooth loss. help turn back the clock on gingivitis with parodontax. leave bleeding gums behind. parodontax.
1:57 pm
. . - did you know that americans that bought gold in 2005 quadrupled their money by 2012? and even now many experts predict the next gold rush is just beginning. so don't wait another day. physical coins are easy to buy and sell and one of the best ways to protect your life savings from the next financial meltdown. - [narrator] today, the u.s. money reserve announces the immediate release of u.s. government-issued solid gold coins for the incredible price on your screen. these gold american eagles are official gold coins of the united states and are being sold for the price on your screen.
1:58 pm
- pick up the phone and call america's gold authority, u.s. money reserve. with nearly two decades in business, over a billion dollars in transactions, and more than a half a million clients worldwide, u.s. money reserve is one of the most desing official gold american eagle coins at cost for the incredible price on your screen. these government-issued gold coins are official u.s. legal tender made from solid gold mined here in america and fully backed by the united states government for their gold weight, purity, and content. do not delay, call now to purchase your gold american eagles for the amazing price on your screen. gold is now on sale at prices unseen in years and this year could be one of the greatest gold-buying opportunities of all time! call now while vault inventory remains.
1:59 pm
as one of the largest u.s. gold coin distributors in the country, the u.s. money reserve has proudly served hundreds of thousands of clients worldwide. don't wait another minute, call now to purchase your american eagle coins at cost for the amazing price on your screen. neil: these are some big names going to be reporting earnings after the bell. ford, microsoft, tesla. we're a fifth, quarter way through the earnings process. and right now, most of them handily beaten estimates, top line, revenues, earnings front. that usually sometimes is the case as lot of these guys deliberately reach chet down -- ratchet down expectations. they talk about the optimistic scenario going forward.
2:00 pm
this quarter was expected a bit after contraction earnings. when all said and done might abdominal pickup. that was something our charles payne telling us about, before one of these came out. thank you, charles. charles: good afternoon, i'm charles payne this is making money. major indices clinging to slight gains. that is a major news how the companies posted negative earnings last night. we'll explain why the market is hanging in there. cryptocurrency, one of the nba's greatest players ever, shaquille o'neal, weighs in on the nba china spat saying the rockets general manager was quote, right to tweet his support for hong kong. all that and so much more on "making money".

92 Views

info Stream Only

Uploaded by TV Archive on