people and this is not what people want. david: stevie wrote a book about in this important political part of the country. fracking any know the industry melissa: it's staggering staggering in a way to take away very well. she would eliminate fracking. she would essentially kill the from what you saw. great reporting can't wait to see you tomorrow. that does it for us. carbon energy industry which "bulls & bears" starts now. employs 6 million americans. where were those people find jobs? david: more when we on wall street the dow closing on a >> david here's appointed by the way that's not just elizabeth record high for the second day day.row in the fifth on this in warren. joe biden wants to get rid of fracking and by the way we are running ads starting next week also tonight on "bulls & bears" the sickly saying wait a minute. elizabeth warren's medicare for all plan drawing even more how is joe biden going to win scrutiny as the newest critics ohio pennsylvania when he says he wants to get rid of fracking? are going to surprise you folks. good evening everybody i'm david david: exactly. that's the point. robert is there any strategy? asman and thank you for joining us. joining me on the panel tonight steve moore wolford rough jackie by the way the polling shows in those key states michigan and ohio pennsylvania the ones that deangelis and carol ross. it's election day all over donald trump turned republican from democrat they are not america with just a year until the 2020 presidential election and realclearpolitics polling so well. showing joe biden and elizabeth at least the left-wing of the democratic party.

warren still leading the >> here's what i would say per democratic pack but warrants president trump had a lot of promises when he was running as 52 trillion-dollar medicare for do all presidents and nominees all health plan not to mention for the primaries and they usually try to shift to get the the other trillion dollar policy she has facing deepening independent vote. my guess is if elizabeth warren skepticism from republicans and now democrats. is the candidate you will see some shifting. david: first and last word from even liberal media outlets are chiming in the "washington post" featuring an op-ed by larry rubber roof today. e-cigarettes are supposed to be summers of former treasury better than smoking actual secretary under president cigarettes but could they be clinton and tyler quote warns more harmful than marijuana? plan to finance medicare for all the results of a brand-new survey. >> comedian seth meyers pushes into dangerous uncharted you'll want to stick around for this and doc siegel is here to acknowledges that some fans may be getting burnout by the separate the fact from the territory. fiction. that's up next political, they teamed up with netflix on his new economy in "the news york times" obama special called lobby baby to economic advisers steve bradner writing quote the worn way is allow viewers to skip about the wrong way for big government no commission. delivery drones, plans with damaged rather than improve our economy so robert or the latest phones. no commission. no matter what you trade, trump, the option is similar to the one netflix flashes during tv shows theme song giving wolf what happens if she does at fidelity you'll pay no commission become the democratic nominee? >> i just want to preempt to for online u.s. equity trades. viewers the ability to skip people like larry and steve i intros and recaps with the show. at fidelity you'll pay no commission said that how many months ago most people think of verizon with you that i was not for as a reliable phone company. (woman) but to businesses, medicare for all. we're a reliable partner. we keep companies ready for what's next. is it a smart move to get rid of the applicable stuff? >> i love political humor, i (man) we weave security into their business. david: you contributed to just wish it were more virtualize their operations. candidates. >> i did not contribute to

ms. warren at this time. (woman) and build ai customer experiences. bipartisan and not so mean but this is not surprising. great political humor can be larry summers and ratner and very funny. we also keep them ready for the next big opportunity. people like myself with police like 5g. it is fun to make fun of health care is a right that we almost all the fortune 500 partner with us. politicians. >> i thought we called everybody snowflakes for not liking the believe in extending the public option to keeping private (woman) when it comes to digital transformation... insurance. that was the essence of jokes. verizon keeps business ready. obamacare. we thought people should take if you don't want to do it obamacare and expand from there. ♪ there's already a fast-forward button on your remote. so use it but enjoy the jokes. and i think this is not a winning policy to run on >> it's netflix, if you don't but when i started seeing things, want to watch it don't watch it. especially in middle america and i didn't know what was happening... [laughter] so i kept it in. if you saw yesterday's polls he started believing things that weren't true. which you guys chatted about the >> if you don't want to watch it mystics swing state biden was because you don't want to -- i knew something was wrong... winning four of six against but i didn't say a word. president trump and even on one during the course of their disease and i think elizabeth warren was around 50% of people with parkinson's >> there's other things they can may experience hallucinations or delusions. joke about, they just don't have to joke about this, i am sick of it and don't want to maybe winning one at that. david: if i could ask that fast-forward. but now, doctors are prescribing nuplazid. >> if you look at seinfeld for question again what happens if example, where the any political she is the democratic nominee? the only fda approved medicine... would you be able to support her proven to significantly reduce with these plans? hallucinations and delusions jokes? >> hard-core people. >> that would like to hope that related to parkinson's. >> the character scratcher on she pivots. don't take nuplazid if you are allergic to its ingredients. >> that's a nonanswer robert. nuplazid can increase the risk of death in elderly people with dementia-related psychosis >> this is what i would say she and is not for treating symptoms went from calling it a policy to church structure. platform a couple of weeks ago. unrelated to parkinson's disease. >> if you go back none of those were political. i think this is helping her with >> that was seth meyers, that's nuplazid can cause changes in heart rhythm where he got a start. that does it for "bulls & bears". thank you for watching we will

the populist left as i've said and should not be taken if you have certain see you back here next time. many times. abnormal heart rhythms or take other drugs i don't believe it helps her one in the general election and most that are known to cause changes in heart rhythm. liz: markets rocky to new heights, u.s. embassy is democrat say that as well. tell your doctor about any changes outpacing the rest of the world in medicines you're taking. david: so you know i was with the most common side effects are swelling of the arms and legs and confusion. but the media not giving front-page coverage to that. your good friend max boot the we spoke up and it made all the difference. other day and i asked in that same question would you vote for ask your parkinson's specialist tonight, they show voters now sitting up and watching what is going on in washington. elizabeth warren and he said i about nuplazid. democrat losing a policy, losing that economic growth, their would vote for her because she would be of the implement any of socialist front runner is getting blasted by their own her vote. side. as election results will come in obviously i think her ideas are crazy. i think it would bankrupt the tonight from four key states, that will happen within hours country and they would do severe damage to the system in this country but i want to make and we are on it. the debate, what will work with another point to as you know i voters, the trump administration worked for donald trump during the campaign and as a renegade now swamping impeachment messaging was getting stuff candidate for all of the kind of done. profits, trade deal, growth in republican who was came out the real world against him just as is happening with elizabeth warren and my point is i'm not so sure when somebody like larry summers hey fred - it's medicare open enrollment.e. comes out against or not so sure that hurts her so much. time to compare plans. they are such an agitation on the left with the status quo we're fine with what we have. that's what the johnsons thought until they tried medicare's new plan finder. that this may actually help rinat her tour. the johnsons?.

>> i don't think so. we saved a lot on our prescription i think it brought the country costs and got extra benefits. together for once. how 'bout it, fred. many of us agree or disagree with on everything and we finally agree. this is patently insane and the plans change every year. use the new plan finder at medicare.gov . concern for my standpoint is comparing plans really pays. there doesn't seem to be anyone but people are coalescing look how much we can save. around. they say we don't like what i need all the breaks i can get. warren is doing and we don't like what sanders is doing an line? liberty mutual customizes your car biden is not a guy so were they insurance so you only pay for what you need. going to put up as the nominee? >> i will say one thing because that's a lot of words. only pay for what you need. david you are starting to show ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ by talking about records on wall street. wall street is going to support elizabeth warren is a candidate. earnings are strong right now. we have a potential trade deal with china. people have their fidelity david: marijuana versus e-cigarettes. which one is worse for your health? a surprising new poll showing button button on there for a link in a feel good about what they are seen. 52% of americans believe e-cigarettes are very harmful someone like elizabeth warren to wall street is a severe threat but just 20% say the same thing to that and they certainly aren't going to. about marijuana. here's fox's medical david: one thing that ratner correspondent dr. mark siegel. first of all i have to ask you talked about and although the

spec to david you remember ball do you think e-cigarettes are street if he will is that she proposes these massive changes to corporate structures and that's one of the things that more harmful than pots? scares the most the management >> absolutely not. and by the way think the people of corporations nationwide would that took the survey must have been smoking pot. i don't know how these -- they be taken over by this conglomerate of workers and also said alcohol only 40% of social groups etc.. alcohol was very harmful and 80% is that a problem? >> yeah it's a problem. the idea of having over said tobacco. what about the 20% that don't burdensome regulations is never think smoking tobacco tobacco good for a capitalist society. cigarettes is horrible? think we should be regulated in here's the bottom line here's a fair and balanced way but not what the problem is. the problem is in perception. we just got through crisis where all industry. some industries don't need 1000 people got sick from regulation. they saw her delay. what you are saying about the vaping. tech companies are the monopoly the public thinks that was or not we have been debating e-cigarettes. it was actually vaping marijuana that and we go every which way products. to sunday. over 80% of the time so they got i would respectfully disagree that the banks are not doing the wrong message. i got the vaping message but good things. they assigned it to the wrong they are more capitalized in their lending more. they have more jobs today than product. >> dr. seagull it's carol roth. i don't do -- sugar is my vice they have in a long time. but in terms of what is bad >> we are talking about wall street but what about main about either of these products street quickly forget it's the back of our economy the is it's taking something the foreign substance into your

lungs are the actual makeup of 30.2 million small-business owners and the devastating affects so many business owners what's in the individual product have built up their wealth like marijuana? entire life and they are not >> it's a great point. both are true. taking something into your lungs is not good for your lungs. we don't know the long-term taking a paycheck and they are keeping it inequity. now all of a sudden their health risks of vaping and what welfare is impacted. we don't like but e-cigarettes is the nicotine. it's a product that may bring >> when you combine the vote for you over to other nicotine elizabeth warren and bernie products. sanders it's 40% of the terms of marijuana i'm much more democratic base of voters. concerned about the problem outside of the lungs. i just think obviously i agree i'm agreeing that the lungs or risk to but there's a recent with everything at you guys are study that shows a high-risk of psychosis among pot users to kosovo high thc content. saying that the ideas of medicare for all the green new keeps going up higher and higher. the active chemical in marijuana deal increase social security benefits all these things are popular with the democratic base there's issues of behavioral of voters and i don't say that changes and issues of depression with any joy. and anxiety and learning. think it's a painful thing to say but it's a reality. people don't perform as well on tests. >> the question though is it i'm talking about daily marijuana use here. enough? if you look at the candidates yes to the lung problems but in right now you can see the case you think vaping e-cigarettes like juul isn't bad extreme policy proposals and say you know what it joe biden run the states i would vote for him for your lungs as tobacco, no but he'd be warned on the stage way. i can't vote for him.

i'm not speaking for myself and speaking for people that i've is it as bad for your lungs as been talking to and how they marijuana? we don't know i don't think so. feel about the divide. unfortunately what you do is set zerneck dearden's if it someone up an election where president is trying to quit cigarettes using juul it's a positive step trump has a better chance to win if he is running against elizabeth warren. forward if you can kick juul -- >> is the guy who is called a fat cat with the presidency i juul and kick the habit wish they'd use a different altogether. what about kids who've never smoked before and they have adjective. these fruity flavors and iger david: one thing everyone is producing a whole new generation missing is wall street doesn't of nicotine addicts. vote with their pocketbook and that worries me because we don't they don't vote for the stock know enough about it. market. they are voting for elizabeth >> i was very well said and by warren. the way juul stepped into a big 40% are staunch and they are ditch here of pr problems when voting for president trump. they kept saying they are not the 20% voted for obama in a way and they voted for not -- romney targeting youth when it was clear that they were then they in 2012. had crème brûlée in bubblegum flavored we found out in the they voted for hillary and 16 last few days that matches the and who knows where they will be in 20. flavor that most of our teens tohillary clinton and obama are vaping and ment is what still on the market. juul has been very disingenuous in my opinion terms of what they they are trying to do. they are targeting the youth and

you are not supposed to legally be able to in an any of our 50 states or d.c. to bail the cell e-cigarettes to anyone under the age of 18. >> i'm just going on a tangent here for all of our business investment. the heads myself and i invested in a. roe hemp company that has no nicotine in their competing with cigarettes and they are supposedly a healthier something to puff on. they don't like to call them cigarettes but i would say jackie had a point. it's all about these fruity things. no one knows. we know one thing. kids were doing it before and now they are doing it more. that can't be good. >> i will say one more thing is i did some research. they are very very strong concentrations and very strong concentrations especially for generations that didn't smoke or doesn't have experience with taking nicotine in.

i would imagine there's something called nicotine poisoning and they are so easy to puff the kids don't know what they are doing. they say they are having racing hearts and not feeling well. david: to your point and i read with robert on this for once, you wouldn't believe how much nicotine this is prettier .1 cartridge has as much nicotine as a pack of cigareton age 14 se schoolers in the high-schoolers sit around all day one after the other and may do three or four pots a day. that's the equivalent of three or four packs of cigarettes a day with somebody that has a developing brain that doesn't need a racing heart. also putting anything in your lungs as bad. >> i've always been in favor of drug legalization but a serious point when it comes to marijuana i'm hearing all these reports now marijuana is this wonder drug that solves all sorts of health melodies whether it's my

great headaches or glaucoma but where do you stand on this issue? is marijuana's positives better than the negatives and his legalization working? >> really really love question steve today marijuana does have medicinal value that handled the right way. number two it'd be interesting to know with all this thc in everything going on with high potency marijuana i believe in decriminalizing it but let me tell you a statistic you are not aware of. every single state where marijuana is legal guess what has burgeoned? the illegal industry. it's legal in california that three times as much of the marijuana sold in california's the illegal kind. they pretend that they are legal. they are not sold in the shop but they are thinking we are going to plan the mite to people that it's really legal so his legalization the illegal and industry burdens. -- bergen's. you are getting it in edibles

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options and is barred for working for a competitor for two years. does the punishment fit the crime? >> it's a pretty hefty punishment when you think about appearing the wake of what happened with the #me too movement not to reduce the importance of that but work -based relationships are a normal part of life. i know so many people who have had healthy relationships and gone to get married and had families and had really positive experience. now people can barely talk to each other. i know it's an issue of power. even in a position of power number one it was consensual relationship remember to he wasn't cheating. he was divorced. david: but he did violate company policy. >> he was under a duty to report this relationship to h.r. to make them aware that any should have done i predict the same time we need to re-examine the role of and women within the workplace and how we are interacting. not every situation is a me too terrible horrible situation. >> i agree with jackie but what you said david he has the ceo.

the policy. he should have gone to h.r.. that's an easy move. it's consensual, go to h.r. have the document and let the board no we would not be talking about that today. >> i'm a stickler for rules guys and i have to disagree with you. you are the ceo of a company and you have a company policy. you should not be doing this and therefore you do not get fired for having a consensual relationship. he got fired for not telling the policy. the same thing that happened to katie hill. she violated allegedly the house ethics provision and she had to step down. if you want to change the rules i'm all for having a discussion about changing the rules but if those are the rules you have to follow them. there was no power dynamic -- dynamic as we are different parts either incision i'm all for having that conversation jack was talking about but that's the policy you have to have a conversation first. >> i agree with that. >> i tend to agree with everything has been set although

i view this as a victimless crime. there's no question this was a violation of company policy but i will say this. this was one hell of a ceo. stock tripled under his regime. that's a big loss to mcdonald's and look the purpose of a ceo is to benefit the shareholders and he has paid the big loser here is mcdonald's. david: talking about power jackie you don't see anything lock wrong with the relationship he had because he's a ceo by definition has something over everybody else in the company. there is a position of power that he has. >> there is power in there's influence in if something goes sour with the relationship the person may feel that power and influence had something to do with it. the protection is put there to report it to h.r. so they can protect you and that's why the policy is put in place. it can be hard as a woman for example to go to h.r. and say i'm having a consensual relationship with the ceo.

what are people going to say about me? >> it goes to the other dynamic. there's the issue of the power relationship between the two people but also the perception of everybody else. is this person potentially getting favored and are they put a different position because they are in a relationship and it's a political issue. that's why they have these policies. david: what about free will. we do have free will. we can decide not to carry on if your job is more important in the possibility of a relationship that may or may not work out you choose the job. if you decide you are more in love then you are with the job you leave the work writes steve? >> i completely agree with that and i don't know anything about the relationship but if they had a good relationship that looked like he was going somewhere she probably should have found a job somewhere else. no, no?

david: but he is the ceo. >> that goes back to the power dynamic issue. just because the woman is not the ceo she's the one that has to leave. >> let me clarify something. i would say the same thing at the ceo were a woman and she had a relationship with an employee who was the man. he should leave in that case. >> they can make the decision amongst themselves but seems to me there is a better policy that like you said have the report good h.r. and have both people sign off on it. david: it's simple. you don't have to date somebody and you don't have to get involved. it's that simple. corporations compromising too much with china and putting our personal information at risk. how one senate committee is looking into those concerns even though the main witnesses

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-- and hearing about the possible influence of the chinese government on a customer's data. hillary has the latest from capitol hill. what's going on there? >> tick-tock reports they let china control their content and their dodging lawmakers questions. they did not show up to hearing today that was going to address a big tech companies are protecting user data from being exploited by bad actors like china instead of showing up at tick-tock sent a letter maintained their letter and it reads in part this. take talk does not remove content. we never have been asked by the chinese government to remove any content and we would not do so if asked. former employees at tiktok are saying the opposite. according to reports former tiktok plays a moderators in china have the final say over flight content and ignored employees that voice concerns when people in beijing were making the final call over what

content to blog. tiktok has over 150 million downloads in the u.s. allowed a lot of them kids in that brought a lot of concern for lawmakers hear that children are using this app. >> the threat is adjusted children's privacy. it's a threat for national security. we don't know what china could do with this kind of social data in aggregate and what it tells china about our society. they can see who we talked to, what we talk about where we congregate what we capture on video. >> he also said today he will expect someone from tiktok to show up and answer their questions under oath so it looks like they are up against the clock to finally come to capitol hill and face lawmakers questions in person. david: zero republicans and democrats beating up on tiktok in this case. is congress interfering sticking its nose in where it doesn't belong or is it right to find out whether the chinese

communist government is invading the databases of companies with huge exposure in china steve? >> one lesson here is people shouldn't use tiktok if they are worried about their personal security but there's a larger point here which i think we are all grappling with. what responsibility do these technology companies have in terms of protecting american national security and i guess on this one i sighed with, i would like to see these companies act in a more patriotic way to ensure united states national security is protected. >> i don't think tiktok will act in a patriotic way because it's a chinese company and if you have a chinese app on your phone and you are a kid or young adult they could have all kinds of information. the way i'd like to see this handled his arm to those psas pleased to have like the more you know what the big rainbow? we need more teleservices announcement because of the end of the day people would download

these apps and they will do what they wanted to but they want to understand the privacy risks. >> this is one where both sides of the aisle can agree that a user developing industries and there needs to be some regulation not just to protect national security interests but also protect consumer and consumers need to educate themselves or the government has a responsibility doing that so in some cases people to boycott these products when they realize how potentially dangerous they are. >> i think we all agree. the other thing my gut tells me when you get called by the senate to testify you show up. >> but you are not in the u.s. if you are chinese company. david: for the record they didn't rule out them appearing. you said -- you weren't able to ride the response and send it in but steve what about the charge made by several of the senators. senator cotton says that companies beholden to the

chinese communist party we'd do we know that for a fact? >> i don't know but look a lot of these companies are and we see much more governmental control over the activities of these chinese company so it's certainly not a stretch. i don't know what's going on there in beijing. >> when they go on from the senate and their asked the question which they are saying no we don't give data to china they will have to testify. it's going to be binary. they either broke the law because they lied or at they told the truth. >> but they are chinese company. they are not beholden to the government of china until the government of china asked him. david: not apple. >> i'm talking specifically about tik tok. >> with but what about apple? they are not to hold on to the communist party, right?

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done. yesterday the state was targeting some of the largest encampment in the city and it was quite a sight to see. want to show you that video now. it have to be honest with you is something i've never seen in my life. it was alarming to see. we saw makeshift weapons lying on the ground and we smelled an awful smell of in the air. text document with state police and cleared it out to the homeless that were living there were allowed to keep some other personal items. the rest of it went into the trash. the governor greg abbott is taking action after city leaders legalize camping on sidewalks. some folks actually came out to watch. they were applauding the governor. listen. >> they really want to thank the governor for standing up and listening to us and demonstrating leadership here for the safety and security of texas.

>> now this will continue on a weekly basis until the governor satisfied that i got to speak to a homeless man who said they are going to work. listen. >> they are not going to clean this up. as long as their people under this bridge people are going to be giving us. it's just that easy. >> meantime the democrat mayor steve adler is facing a lot of pressure for a recall. there is a petition that is making the rounds right now on line. back to you. david: ayesha thank you. las vegas is set to vote the other new ordinance to criminalize marijuana tomorrow and when you look at the problems in austin san francisco l.a. new york is tough love or the softer approach the best way to handle the homeless problem? >> this may be the improper review but i deftly think it's tough love in for my experiences in new york city where you walk around and see homeless people sleeping on the train sleeping on the streets.

sends a van a lot of these people are mentally ill and quite frankly when i'm walking around and scare for several weeks ago i was attacked by a homeless person. does it really make it better when you allow them to be on the streets in cities? municipalities have to take out a way to get people help and protect the citizens that are functioning within society. you cannot put them in harm's way. there's a responsibility. >> we have not found that with the right answer is. this homelessness in the big city seattle l.a. all over there's no real answer. there's not enough government housing available to put the homeless somewhere prepares not a good answer. i know we think we can all of a sudden put these people somewhere. there's nowhere and people keep growing in numbers. >> but the street is not the place. >> this is the typical response to the homelessness problem. we know how to deal with homelessness and get people off the street corners and by the way i'm very much in favor of providing shelter and the answer

is clear these areas out that our are public spaces so they are not ringing cities like san francisco but find compassionate shelters that people can come. >> those places are all ching out of the seams. >> you want to be tough on the symptoms but then you want to be soft on the solution because it's a matter of dignity. the challenge to homelessness is there so whole slew of reasons that people are homeless. they are struggling moms who maybe lost her job and needs a little bit of help are there people who are mentally ill and there are some people that are in the system and you have to address each of them. >> we have done it here in new york. we had a terrible homeless problem in the 70s and 80s and we have giuliani command with this tough love. sad it's not at all sympathetic to people to let them sleep on the streets. you have to intervene.

intervention you do with the a family member in one of the homeless on the streets? you cleaned up new york and it became safer more prosperous and cleaner. it was better for the buddy sully is a formula that works. >> it the only issue david is why isn't the governor during this? this is really an issue for the people of boston and if they elected this bozo who wants to allow people to sleep anywhere on the streets and and so on there's a municipal problem and municipalities have to come together and figure out how to deal with it. >> you can compare what giuliani did to today. the population has grown dramatically. david: not really. >> robert you were here. was an amazing turnaround. what happened in the times square district. an extraordinary effort was done. before we had to break with you is coming up on evening at it

tonight to elizabeth mcdonald what have you got coming? elizabeth: a tremendous outpouring of anger and rage. people are really outraged over this horrific story the homicidal mexican drug cartel slaughtering nine members of the mormon family south of the border. president trump now promises to help mexico wage war in the quote monsters is possible that he wants justice. tonight we have top republican senator james lankford on homeland security to their hearing today on what's happening at the border pays warning democrats and all americans you've got to wake up to how the u.s. mexican border has become a conduit for murder drug cartels and much more. david: that's a very important story. elizabeth thank you. meanwhile if you have alexa google home home morant iphone you've got to listen up as there's a new threat. how these devices can now be hacked using a product that many people have in their own homes that cost about 10 bucks. brett larson from "fox news"

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diddy a new warning about a new threat to your alexa google home or even your eye iphone. a 14-dollar laser pointer is all a hacker needs to take control over these devices and open your garage shop on line using your cant even starting your car. one study even showed a laser could hack a google home from 350 feet away. because we are invested in you and in your security with we brought in our expert in fox's headlines 24/7 anchor brett larson. first of all how does this work like. >> it's actually kind of interesting. we know how waves move air along

and that's our ears work and that's how speakers work and that's how microphones work on the opposite end. the inside of the microphone that i'm wearing right now is shaking around in the air from my voice hits it and that's how you hear me at home. what these researchers were able to do is with a standard off-the-shelf 15-dollar laser pointer plug it into computer and they were able to synthesize audio with light and hit the microphone with it and trick the microphone into thinking it's hearing actual sound. it's kind of a horrifying concept when you really put your mind to it. i was reading stories about their military applications for something like this in terms of crowd control where they can hit you with a laser and it makes a flag in front of her head and sound starts coming out of it. it's a natural thing but the concern here is laser pointers can go hundreds of feet and if you've got this thing sitting on your entertainment center or

near a window somebody could potentially access it within an expensive device. >> bread is carol ross. pretty sure the robots are going to kill us. soon and none of this as a surprise to me. i don't know what anybody has one of these things in her home. into the day the day the people who want to hack these are always going to be one step ahead of whoever is creating fees. shouldn't people just not have these in their house? how hard is it to turn on your light and turn on the radio? we have gotten too lazy here. >> i don't know how hard it is to turn on the lights. i've had alexa do it are scary. i'm joking but you are right. a lot of times with technology we run full speed ahead because it's so convenient. does this cool thing and we can leave it in our kitchen and say how many tablespoons or in a cup of butter or however you want to ask your device to do stuff for you.

as more of this stuff becomes interconnected what we forget about is that interconnectedness is connected out to the world. >> brett i totally hear you and there are certain aspects that are like oh that's cool for second but then i don't want it to my house. not only do i want the guy with a laser laser pointer giving it but do i want google amazon and apple listening to me when i'm home having a conversation. i have triggered alexa without talking to her. that scares me because she's angry at you jackie. >> my dogs name is dexter so you can imagine alexa the device occasionally answers like i don't understand what you mean, treat and these sorts of things happen. a lot of times we hear this stuff and it's very alarming. what is great about us sitting here talking about this and these people carrying out these experiments is now that information goes back to apple

and google and amazon and they can say all right hold on a second. that's creepy. we have to figure a way to make sure that doesn't happen again. a lot of times the hackers are a step ahead of us but they are also making sure this doesn't become problematic. there will always be ne'er-do-wells trying to do something. >> i'm an economist so i am pro laser pointer. >> they love to use those pointers and spreadsheets. david: is there some attempt to find a way of changing? usada life imitates sound. are they going to fundamentally try to change that formula or are we stuck with that? >> this is really interesting because is this a question of physics? we been using fiber optics for decades now in fiber optics basically blinking laser lights in a glass tube. i'm very oversimplifying it for people watching at home saying that's not how it works.

it's blinking laser lights and glass so fundamentally i think we all have to collectively help somehow figure out okay we have got to contain these things. maybe put a physical off switch on the front of it or put a toaster hood over it. >> don't let them in your house. >> carol has the easy solution. just don't buy them. thank you brett nice to see you. are you tired of political jokes? one canadian has come up with a way for you to enjoy standup without the political banter. the details coming up. plus zero minimums to open a brokerage account. with value like this, there are zero reasons to invest anywhere else. fidelity. wow! giving one. how did you guys...? >>don't ask. the lexus december to rembember sales event get 0 percent apr for 60 months

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