brooks,. in case you didn't know it, he displayed chutzpah in the battle of the bulge. took a radio to top of a poll to play jewish songs for the news sys. what a guy. neil: thank you, stuart. it is dictating course where stocks are trading. stocks magically going into a melt-up right now. edward lawrence what is all prompting that. hey, edward? reporter: neil, we're getting last minute information. we're telling you u.s. and china are rolling back tariffs. they agreed to roll back tariffs as this trade deal lays out. that is according to the chinese commerce ministry. we're hearing a source within the administration that is accurate. that if this deal gets on paper, gets finalized, the phase one part of it, there will be

tariffs rolling back in phases as we go forward. a spokesman for the chinese commerce ministry says if the deal gets made or gets finalized, this would happen. here is exactly what he says. i want you to hear this. listen. >> translator: if the two sides reach a first phase agreement, the already proposed tariffs will be canceled proportionally. this is important part of agreement. reporter: we heard if. we heard in the last minute that was accurate statement, coming out of u.s. trade sources here, senior administration official saying that is an accurate statement. chinese sources tell us they have been told about it u.s. that the december 15th tariffs will not be imposed. a trade source on the u.s. side, says if there is deal finalized they do not expect the december 15th extra tariffs to be imposed going forward. separately both sides say idea of a trade deal pushed into

december is not part of discussions at this point. they're working with a time frame, apec time frame. to have finalized language on a trade deal done next week. independent of that, neil, tell you the u.s. department of agriculture is reporting again chinese companies made a large, a very large purchase of soybeans from the united states. so those farming purchases are continuing as they are going through the trade deals. seems like a lot of good information, good vibes going forward. back to you, neil. neil: thank you very much, edward lawrence following all of this closely from the capitol. i want to get a read on this from scott shellady who follows market developments ins and outs. scott, we have information tied what is happening on the trade front. i noticed something interesting in the latest development, the chinese seem to be saying all of this is contingent getting rid of all the tariffs.

if somebody falls through on phase one, right? >> everybody says if this thing goes through everybody gets a miniature pony. at the end -- neil: as a matter of fact that is on page 4. go ahead. >> fool me once, fool me twice, i want to be from missouri, the show-me state. show me the money. as far as purchases from agriculture we're getting back, or we like to get back to levels we were before the tariff tantrum in the first place. what was the tariff tantrum when we get to levels before this started in? things have to be better on the other side. not the same. i'm still skeptical. i heard the word if too many times today. there has been a lot of ifs before. after a made attempt, this year, we were 90% there, the chinese pulled rug out from everybody's feet. i can't get excited until i see the money. neil: this is almost as my dad saying we'll see. the if, we'll see, they take

turns. on this trade deal, what is interesting the phase one part calls for huge commitment to buy a lot of agricultural products. do you know or is it even important for the markets to know whether there is a way to make sure that chinese make good on that? >> no they can cancel purchases. neil: right, right. >> isn't that part of the deal, how they regulate the deal, ramifications or penalties if you don't live up to your side of the deal? we just can't get too excited over it. i know market likes it. i'm a positive person too. i like idea of getting rid of tariffs, getting on the road to being back where we were and or better. again, remember, we went through this for, went through sacrifice for something better at the end of the road. a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. i will not be happy if we get back to status quo with no tariffs. we need status quo plus. that is what i'm worried about. neil: you and i talked about this, this was dragging on a

while, everything is focused on mueller. everyone is focused on ukraine. be that as it may, the markets give it a collective shrug. in fact totally ignoring it. what do you make of that? >> i think market is totally ignoring, neil. you can look at the phone call, the tapes. you can see the transaction right there. there is no, at least to the normal person's mind there is no real quid pro quo. everything that we've been told of since, or getting drips and drabs of, has been somebody's opinion on the phone call or the opinion of the transcript, right? so your opinions don't matter in court. it has to be fact. the facts are staring us in the face. that is what guys behind me will look at too. it has to be something substantive. we can't trade the market on legislator's opinions or who these people are, it has to really be fact, thank you my friend. always good to catch up with you. scott shellady. >> all right. neil: especially if someone like

john bolton will be testifying. we don't know whether he was quit or heaved out of the white house. he would be open to talk. if that happens could that change the dynamics? no way to know. we'll explore that later on. exploring a wealth tax, could undo the way the rich tell it, a wealth of riches especially for them. the bill gates the latest billionaire to warn about elizabeth warren's wealth tax. take a look. >> i paid over 10 billion in taxes. i paid more than anyone in taxes but i, i'm glad to you know, if i had to pay 20 billion. it's fine. [laughter]. but you know when you say i should pay 100 billion, i'm starting to do a little math what i have left over, sorry. i'm just kidding. neil: actually pretty funny. elizabeth warren responding. would love to explain the wealth tax to bill gates. i'm sure he would look forward to that. a meeting could be set up.

we'll see. charlie gasparino would be a interesting moderator in that. he is, talked to a lot of business leaders about all of this. not quite as wealthy as mr. gates but in the neighborhood. how are you doing? >> i would have kept the conversation going whoever the guy was at the new york -- neil: stop it. it is interesting what he is saying. even i started to notice -- >> he wasn't kidding. neil: he was not kidding at all. go ahead. >> i think the problem that the democrats have, the positive the democrats have is donald trump is immensely unpopular. i disagree with scott in the sense that the american public is very much, either 50/50 or leaning a little towards impeachment which isn't a good sign if it is 50/50. neil: talking from the investor perspective. >> the reason investors look at it that way, it hasn't hit the senate yet. we haven't seen any -- it could. that is the positive for the democrats. the negative for the democrats is elizabeth warren.

she is deeply unpopular with the corporate democratic class. who is that? that is guys like gates. guys like jamie dimon. they are, i guess you could say, the social, they're progressive on a lot of policies but they're also capitalists and they understand the capitalist system created a lot of wealth that could be distributed, redistributed. that is their mantra. they think she is insane and they are really worried about her policies. all you have to do is read "the new york times" today. any place, "the new york times" which kind of supports her, did a break down of medicaid for all, how much it will cost. the numbers, even in their way of spinning it somewhat positive doesn't make sense and gates knows it, jamie dimon knows it, tony james over at blackstone, another big time democrat on wall street knows it. neil: this is unusual for, the way you extract savings she is way overstating that. >> it is insane.

listen to donny deutsch of all people, committed liberal who works at msnbc, he says it. it is, he is also a guy who ran a profitable advertising company. anybody that knows anything about business in the democratic side, there is lots of them, say she is insane and -- neil: maybe she is smarter by half? maybe she is talking about the base of the party by and large does have it out for rich people. >> yes. neil: that will maybe secure her nomination because that is -- what it does in the general election to your point anyone's guess. >> that is what i reported on your show. she is telling these guys, wait until the general election comes around, we'll take your money. we'll moderate. elizabeth warren is at heart capitalist trying to make the system better. listen, it is hard to put that genie back in the bottle. neil: one thing about running to the middle. another thing about taking a sprint. >> this is not bill clinton. not even hillary clinton who

moved somewhat to the left in 2016. you notice donald trump never moderated for his run to get republican nomination. he kind of stayed on course because you really could put the genie in the bottle and it happened to work. i don't think this works. i don't think socialism of this nature -- neil: do you think bill gates helped himself there any know he was joshing, i'm okay 20 billion. i'm saying okay i'm okay with you doubling my tax. >> i heard ken langone, a republican, don't think he is conservative, long-time republican on your shows, other shows, i pay more taxes. i don't mind. where it becomes where you take the system and -- neil: more than doubling or tripling it gets a little -- >> taking the system and radically changing. what elizabeth warren is advocating not even what obama advocated. it is not capitalism. obama, whatever you say, obamacare was an insurance mandate. it was not socialized medicine.

much of his stuff which is in confines generally accepted as capitalism this is not. that is why they're so far freaked out. from what i'm hearing from republicans trump fund-raisers, bundlers, if she is the nominee, he could raise $2 billion. she will be facing ads every day calling her a socialist. as crazy as trump is, there is lots of stories suburban women didn't vote in the election, facing that type of barrage, it is truthful that she is a socialist will be hard to for her win. neil: very early on, brilliant in his campaign strategy, i think one ad that aired during world series, not perfect but better. not a saint but better than all these other guys. that might be very effective. >> it depends. i will say this again, you keep saying no, no, joe biden if he could survive will match up very well against him. i'm telling you if he survives. i'm not saying he is going to

survive. neil: you couch a lot of things -- >> how do i know he will survive? he can't put together a sentence. neil: like that stopped our careers. >> if he survives he matches up, just saying -- neil: you never know. breaking news could change everything. >> i heard that somewhere. i heard that on fox once. neil: all right. good seeing you again, i think. charlie gasparino will be back. meanwhile, former twitter employees charged with spying. who are they spying on? after this. ♪ ♪

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neil: now this is getting pretty interesting. the president's former top advisor, john bolton, is willing to testify, he says, if the court clears the way for him to do so. this is coming to us from "the washington post." former federal prosecutor fred tecce on these developments. obviously a lot of people are talking. >> right. neil: is there a special significance to someone like john bolton? >> well, depends what he will say. if he comes in and says i was there, i was there, nothing like this happened, then the, impeachment proceedings are kind of did. oa. if he comes in says, oh, this happened, next thing you know all the people who couldn't stand hill when he got appointed, delighted when he left will all sing his praises. we'll see what happens. neil: from testimony of others we learned sporadically within their testimony that he was concerned. he was concerned about the

giuliani involvement. he was concerned about a lot of things. whether they're accurate saying that, rememring it correctly or telling the truth, he would echo that in his own testimony. if that is the case, then what? >> correct. he will say he was concerned. most importantly neil, he will tell us why he was concerned. he may say he was concerned because he thought giuliani would do x, y and zs as opposed to a, b and c. he could say he was concerned had a different notion strategically dealings with ukraine with his vision where we are what we're supposed to be doing in the world. he could be concerned about a lot of things. if he comes in and i was concerned i thought this was a quid pro quo and trump was stepping on a rake that could be a problem. neil: while you're here, fred, you're always patient with my idiotic legal questions, the definition of quid pro quo.

one thing i don't understand about it, i'm no lawyer, tell me about this. just because you're getting something for something else doesn't mean you have broken the law. that a lot of republicans are on this point, enough to say, even if there was a quid pro quo, even if aid to the country was held up, to ukraine i'm saying, if they didn't get on board with this investigation of joe biden and son hunter biden the energy company, it is not enough, not enough, it is not impeachable, is that true? >> it is true for a couple of different reasons. first of all, one of the things they teach in law school, neil, about contracts, prior duty is no consideration. which means that if you were supposed to do something the fact that i paid you more money to do it and didn't pay you isn't enough. so the fact that the government was able to kind of push for this investigation, it was a legitimate push. there was a legitimate reasons

for doing it, even if they ultimately tied it to aid which they were not obligated to give in the first place it may not be illegal. it may smell bad. it may give people who hate the president another reason to hate him but legally it may not be sufficient. there has to be more. a real quid pro quo, has to be look, you're not entitled to this. we'll not give it to you. actually you are entitled to this. we'll not give it to you unless you do x, y and z. that would be a problem. neil: interesting. i understand that i think. fred always a pleasure, thank you. >> thanks for having me on. neil: kamala harris is introducing a plan to extend the school day by three hours. that should work out just fine. ♪.

neil: the dow indeed at all-time high. comfortably so. that in a second. two former twitter employees

meanwhile are charged with spying for saudi arabia. jackie deangelis very latest. what is going on? reporter: exactly right, neil. david an per son said, saudi arabia mined twitter for personal information about known saudi critics and thousands of other twitter users. what we know from the criminal complaint filed in criminal court in san francisco, two men. one a saudi national, one a u.s. citizen are accused of mining internal twitter database, funneling information to a their man who was a go between them and the saudi government. now no saudi government officials are named in the complaint specifically. but that go between person is believed to have ties to the crown prince, mbs. this raises two critcan issues, neil. that the saudis may have concerns or reasons to worry about dissidents using social media to organize against the

monarchy for example, as we saw during the arab spring. the second issue, how are technology companies protecting users? who is to say employees aren't doing this for other reasons or they can't be bought off to give sensitive information out? this hits at key privacy issue we're discussing. front and center especially comes to social media, neil. neil: we'll watch closely, jackie. thank you very much. jeff sessions, remember him? he is about to become the next mitt romney? we'll explain. ♪. driverless cars,

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♪. >> we're going to focus on, unlike those 36 democrats in trump areas, areas that i won by a lot. i didn't run in 2018. they keep forgetting. i didn't run. i said, go out and vote. go out and vote. a lot of people said i'm not going to vote until trump runs. that is nice. i love the people. neil: well president trump saying he is the key to winning races. republicans look to put an end losing to democrats in the suburbs which was a big factor in the latest elections as it was in 2018. but again as the president pointed out, in neither of those cases was he on the ballot. "wall street journal's" political reporter, eliza

collins. that is what he is saying. it makes a big difference. we found out with barack obama the magic didn't extend helping candidates when he wasn't on the ballot. this president is the same. what do you make of it. >> that is certainly an argument the president is making. we don't know yet. he will be on the ballot next year. that is what we'll see. certainly this president does loom large and has loomed large in all of these past races. you know, we're seeing even very local races talking about this president. republicans really ran similar to the president on a base outreach strategy, talking about impeachment, trying to die -- tie democrats to far left, bernie sanders and elizabeth warren. a lot of suburbs that didn't work. the president could be right and the base could show up that they didn't in the past election. this is a trend, traditionally republican suburbs are trending away from the republican party. that is a problem from the

republican party. neil: the argument has been what it will make a difference is the economy. women in suburban areas appreciate that, when push comes to shove, he is actually on the ballot to echo that campaign theme i guess they're kicking around. not perfect but better. in other words better than all the other alternatives. how do you think that will resonate? >> i'll tell you, i spent a lot of time covering democrats, fighting to go against the president. i am meeting some, former republican women who are out there, you know, checking out some of the more moderate candidates, the pete buttigiegs. they're looking at kamala harris. they're looking at joe biden, looking what else is out there. we won't really know until election day. these women are not talking about the economy. they're talking about the fact they are disappointed with the president, really just drama around the presidency. for them, it loomed larger than the economy. neil: you know in the middle of all of this, eliza, we have emergence of jeff sessions,

seriously considering a presidential run, i'm sorry a senate run down the road. he is popular in alabama. this would put president in a difficult box, wouldn't it? >> this is not against democrats. the president's base he is popular with his base. alabama has a lot of mr. trump supporters but alabama also has gone for jeff sessions repeatedly. he was very popular senator. he was very beloved. so this is a really interesting situation where he is running in a primary. primary voters do tend to be further to the right. this is really the president's base. so is trump going to go out and continue to criticize jeff sessions who has been his sort of foe for a while? is he going to get on board because jeff sessions has been popular in alabama. can voters decide to go for jeff sessions, also support the president? or do they feel like they have to pick one or the other?

neil: very clear how the vice president feels on this subject. apparently not a fan. take a listen to this. >> will you campaign for him if he is the nominee in 2020? >> let me say, we'll let the people of alabama make that decision. neil: wow. i could feel icicles dropping there. what did you feel about that? >> that was not a yes. this president made it very clear in the past how he felt about jeff sessions. the president reversed on people he has seen as enemies before but mike pence is the vice president. you know is aligned with the president. if right now the president and this white house are saying that they are not fans of jeff sessions i don't imagine the vice president mike pence will break with that to go campaign for jeff sessions when there are other republicans, conservative republicans who allied themselves with the white house running in that primary as well. neil: quickly, while i still have you eliza, polls are meaningless as you remind me,

battleground states are indicating a different sentiment than in national polls, shows he has much more than a fighting chance winning back those states again. we're also getting a sense here, that the white house is quietly rooting for a democratic nominee let's say like elizabeth warren or even bernie sanders because moderate tends to score better for democrats, especially in these races, we saw, a couple of days back, especially when we saw them take over the house. especially when you look at polling numbers that joe biden for all his gaffs still enjoys. what do you think? >> republicans have made very clear that they think their winning message to tie democrats to the very far left. they feel like if the candidate at the top isn't identifying on their own at the very far left. that makes their job easier. we'll have to see. right now, you're absolutely right, the democratic nominee, most of these candidates as the democratic nominee are beating president in national polls.

the race is tighter in the swing states. we don't have a popular vote in this country. we have an electoral vote. the states the president won before, it is tight. we'll have to see how the candidates are going out. democrats are fighting each other in the early states. they're not spending time out in the battleground states. so i just don't quite know. but republicans have made very clear that they want to go against the furthest left possible. neil: yeah. there is that. we'll see what happens. eliza, thank you very, very much. >> thanks. >> take a peek at corner of wall and broad. all the averages are up, particularly the dow up smartly. all you needed talks that the china and united states were taking care of the tariff issue. putting them on the side. that they go away. chinese said either they go away we go away. hasn't gotten to the threat possibility. looks like they will go away. it gets to be timing when they

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>> you're tearing me a -- >> what? >> you say one thing, he says another, everyone changes back again! neil: james dean landed a new movie role, 64 years after his death. it is all thanks to cgi, which is all the rage right now. the same technology actually a variation after technology that in the irishman, made all the

star actors much, much younger. pushing this for financial anchors as well. keep you posted on that development. i know 5g is in all the rage. in china they're already working on 6g. managing director mark grant on what that means. we're so caught up when it will happen in this country, just 5g, all the impediments and roadblocks in certain communities. all multiple towers you need, and they're already on 6g, is that right? >> well, let me go through this for you because i don't think a lot of people understand it, neil. 1g through 4g was progression. a little faster. a little faster. 4g to 5g, it's a quantum leap. it changes a tremendous amount of things. you can drive a tank sitting back in the control room someplace and fire. you can drive a truck, sitting

in chicago and the truck is in minneapolis. you can have an app on your iphone, you can fall down, a senior, immediate calls first-responders, the hospital. you don't have to be in the hospital to be monitored 24/7. you could be in your own home. there is just a tremendous amount of things that 5g is bringing to the table. neil: so when we talk about this technology, i know a lot of chinese companies are intricately involved. that is why a lot of people don't want to detaining fell from companies like huawei. they are crucial there, leapfrog competitors. is that true? >> you know, there is a bunch of different companies that are involved in this. the issue in my mind is, their involvement with the chinese government and what is really in their technology ear in terms of tracking people, events.

i think there is legitimacy, legitimacy being concerned about it. but there are any number of companies that are in the forefront in 5g. 6g is progression. 5g is just a huge leap. neil: technology notwithstanding, stepping back from this, who will lead this technology? what is this global inon it and all for it? >> it will be led by the united states, so the chinese are trying to lead it. i think the more it expands, the more it impacts all our lives. there is no latency. boom it happens. something you're aware of deal with it immediately.

for instance a farmer is another example. he can drive the tractor sitting inside of his house. he didn't need to sit in the tractor to drive it anymore harvesting product. there is tremendous amount of applications, as it rolls out, what it will do to technology in the united states. neil: let me switch very quickly. market at records again today. reminders that trade dictates the course of trading. prospects for a chinese u.s. deal. what do you think of that? are we too tied to that? what's your thought? >> i think we're probably too tied to it. we have been tied to it for a number of months. we're also saying, phenomenon really nobody is talking about right now. the other side of the equity market, keep hitting all-time highs, which is the bond market, backing up substantially. we got to a place where insurance companies, pension

funds, money managers couldn't take the yields, it got so low, like the 10-year, around 150. and they were telling a lot of bonds going into private equity, private debt. private placement. that continued. while it has been borrower's paradise, i think it still is. it was a fixed income investors 's nightmare. which is the money having to be put to work? that is the argument behind the bull, the money, all cash accumulating has to be put to work. that is the argument at least. do you buy that? >> i think that's right. but for retiee, pension fund, endowment fund of a university the income is incredibly important. we got to a point where there is almost no income left. we now have, you know, 17 trillion in negative yielding

bonds in the world. one of the things that is startling, it is nuts. is that, greek, the greece 10-year bond yields about 60 basis points less than the united states 10-year bond. and this is because the european central bank is making picks at this dust money. turning it around and buying their bonds over in europe. it is nuts. neil: yeah it is nuts. i don't know how it ends. it is nutty. mark, always great to see you my friend. >> great to see you, neil. neil: facebook considering their ad policies, we don't know how far they will go as far as twitter about dropping all political ads but they are thinking about this, after this. ♪ she's the one

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neil: new york city 9/11 museum added a new exhibit on osama bin laden. rick leventhal is there ahead of the opening. hey, rick. reporter: we're getting reveal of the exhibit, hunt for bin laden, which has dozens of artifacts. this is the glory board from the fbi office in kabul, afghanistan. it was signed by 300 federal agents and workers. only one said don't show my signature. they were so proud in the roll of the operation t lasted nearly 10 years to take out leader of al qaeda. stories of people who were involved. men and women working as intelligence analysts trying to figure out where he was and how to get him. one of the coolest things in here, neil, is this replica of the compound in abbottabad,

pakistan, where bin laden was camping out. they built this to show the president, other intelligence officials what it looked like, to devise a plan of action to go in to get bin laden. they created this life like model. they built two life-sized reply calf the compound, so the seals could train on the compound before they went to pakistan. these are vests. this is one of the vests worn by seal team six members before they went inside. that vest was worn by a bomb-sniffing dog during the raid, neil. the bolt-cutters were carried by one of the seal team members. there is bullet fragment, one of the handles. he was wearing on his back. there was a firefight going inside of the compound. one of the bullets it didn't hit him, but hit handle of those bolt-cutters.

right here, neil, stuff that was taken out of the compound, a computer equipment, camcorder this was with bin laden when they captured and killed him on may 1st, 2011, neil. neil: it captures that day, lead up to it. the immediate aftermath, the semiclosure i guess here, killing of osama bin laden, a reminder it is never over. reporter: the fascinating thing about this exhibit, you're hearing stories from these people, about how they were gathering intelligence and what they were doing it, and how they were able to track him down. all the frustrations that they met along the way. this is a real learning experience in here, to see what they went through. as you said they're obviously not done yet. because the threat still exists. a compelling reminder about hard work done by some people to capture this very dangerous individual. neil: you know i'm glad we have

you doing it, because you were there every step of the way, from the first attack, to this moment. rick, thank you very much. reporter: thank you, neil. neil: rick leventhal. editorial director vince come nays is with us, following on developments of kamala harris. they're imploring, trying to change the trajectory of this race where a lot of people are looking at moderate, all of that but in the middle of this kamala harris had a different approach to get off hot-button issues, to talk about school days, making them longer, depending on the perspective, could be god send for parents, or a nightmare for teachers, say nothing of kids. what do you make of this push, vince, the fact maybe, for someone like senator harris, a way to reframe hot issue of the debate? >> definitely throwing a curveball to talk about something different.

a good thing kids don't vote. she suggested a 10 hour school day. i don't know about you, neil, i'm sure you're a good student but i was fidgeting by hour two. throwing paper airplanes. i want to get out of 3:00. no. she says stay in school at 6:00 p.m. in a different time the democratic party would refer to this as corporate welfare. she wants kids in school so parent can stay at work longer, rather than coming up with economic vision creating a story where we don't have to keep kids in school as long. we don't have to spend as many hours working. one income could take care of a household. that is not where the democratic party is and they want people at work and kids in school. neil: i was looking entire position paper. makes smarter kids, longer school days in asia, hasn't hurt them any. i don't know if that makes it political popular. what do you think? >> i think anybody looks at this

sensibly, look, we strayed from being family centric society. the idea that your kids need to spend more time being educated by the government on any given weekday, is not conducive to helping grow stronger families. i realize she is looking for economic solutions. make it so people have more abilities to make money. really what we should do is as society correcting to the point, where elizabeth warren wanted this a decade ago. hey, what if we come to a place where one parent generates enough revenue income to keep a family going, going strong. the democrats have abandoned that vision. they want us all working for giant corporations. you know, keeping our kids, being trained by the government. neil: we're talking about senator harris. how is she doing? she is not in the top tier, hopes to make progress at next debate. i think she will make that under the wire but how is she doing? >> pathetically. her poll ratings, her polls are really low. she is not catching fire. the biggest moment she had in the campaign, when she stood on

a debate stage, was completely obliterated by tulsi gabbard. tulsi gabbard didn't get anything out of it. kamala harris dropped. she is not catching on fire with voters. not coming across at authentic. liberals are suspicious of her. they think she is very much pro-police state. talk about schools, when she was in california, she was advocating punishing, arresting parents of truant children. these things followed her, dogged her political campaign, to the point where she is firing staff, concentrating all efforts on iowa. it is unclear if that will lead to anything new. showing no signs of revitalizing that campaign. neil: she is one of the few, could, could potentially benefit, vince, being in the senate impeachment hearings, once the senators are themselves going to be prosecutors on trial here but it could be a chance for her to show her stuff. i might be taking a leap there,

but how do you think it falls out for senators running, senators running for president, particularly impeachment in the senate? >> unquestionably they will try to take the opportunity to grow the presidential campaigns. i'm not sure payoff will be that great for them. look back to the kavanaugh hearings. which had presidential candidates, democratic presidential candidates trying to exploit those. none of those candidates, klobuchar, cory booker, kamala harris have not caught fire with the electorate. they seem to behind bernie sanders, elizabeth warren and joe biden. everybody else is a also-ran. neil: great catching up with you, vince. >> thank you. neil: elizabeth warren had a chance to respond to bill gates. take a look. >> ah. ah. top 10 of 1% to pitch in

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i paid over $10 billion in taxes. i paid more than anyone in taxes, but i, you know, i'm glad to have, you know, if i had had to pay $20 billion, it's fine. but you know, when you say i should pay $100 billion, okay, then i'm starting to do a little math about what i have left over. sorry. i'm just kidding. neil: well, apparently in response to that, elizabeth warren was not. she moments ago responded to one of the world's richest men whining about paying more taxes. look. >> you may have heard some billionaires on tv recently crying about that two cent wealth tax.

aww. aww. but we ask the top one-tenth of 1% to pitch in two cents on their fortune, we can advance an entire generation. neil: sounds like [ inaudible ]. the two cent thing, we will get into that. the battle is on right now. obviously the warren campaign keeps pounding this issue because they think she thinks it clearly resonates with voters, particularly voters at the base who are increasingly drawn to her. to natural taxpayers union executive vice president brandon arnold, nella mcbore and mike havinian. her strategy is every time i get a billionaire whining about me, i'm moving one step forward. >> well, she needs the billionaires. how is she going to pay for her $52 trillion health care proposal?

she has to find ways to pay for it. what she doesn't understand is these are the people that drive the economy. it's wealth creation that provides the jobs, provides the new businesses, and so without the bill gates, mark zuckerbergs and all those guys, you don't have any money to fund any government. neil: well, she's obviously tapping them and her math is a bit specious here in terms of when you crunch the numbers, middle class would be included, especially if you get rid of private insurance policies, those who used tax advantaged accounts to write off their premiums, they can't do that anymore so their taxes go up i think close to $2 trillion in higher taxes for that group over the course of ten years. having said that, like i said, she keeps pounding it because there must be follow-through and it must be building her base. >> of course. vilify the rich is always a popular topic, especially for the left and i think it rallies some of her base that's on the lunatic fringe side. that's all it really does, you know. you cannot solve our economic

problems by taxing 2% to 1% here in the united states. it's not going to happen. you can tax them 100%, it won't solve our problems. a lot of people who don't have in-depth policy knowledge on taxes and what they do and how they, you know, how they overall affect us, they don't know so they are hearing sound bites and it's what they want to hear so she's placating to her side of the deal. what she doesn't understand, she is alienating, alienating people that were not always rich. bill gates was not born with a silver spoon, neither was zuckerberg. a lot of these one percenters that fund the programs to advance the left, they weren't. they started out like everyday people, me and you. she essentially is -- neil: you think she knows that? she's no dummy. one of the things i found more revealing in those bites we were playing is bill gates open to paying double his taxes. i guess i could pay 20 billion.

that was the fox alert to me, he's open to paying double what he's paying. leaving that aside, he puts the limit at 100 billion. we come back to this notion, how much is too much, how much can the very rich absorb or wince and accept. what do you think? >> yeah. what we are talking about with the wealth tax is not taking a little bit more, trimming a little off the top for bill gates and jeff bezos. what we are talking about is eliminating billionaires as they currently exist. if you look at some of the numbers, michael jordan is worth about $1.9 billion. in 11 years he would cease to be a billionaire under elizabeth warren's wealth tax. jeff bezos and bill gates would last longer, they have 70, 75 years but they would no longer be billionaires. this is not just concerning from a perspective of punishing wealth. it's also concerning from a mathematics perspective. she's using this money to finance her big programs, her medicare for all program, her free college tuition program. but once you eliminate all the billionaires, where is the money

coming from? neil: it's not static money. these guys didn't get to the point of having this money, trying to keep this money without a s.w.a.t. team of lawyers and accountants. so i'm wondering, that's not static, that money can move, it has moved. europe back in the early '90s had more than a tdozen countrie with wealth taxes, we are down to two or three now. it obviously didn't pan out for them or they would keep it. it's not working. >> what someone needs to ask elizabeth warren is can you please point to one country at any point in history that had a plan like yours that destroyed incentive that's successful. you couldn't find one and point one out. i know we talked about how this is resonating with younger people but you know what, younger people start to work. i have a nephew that came into the work force recently. i can guarantee you he's looking at his paycheck now and thinking about this stuff in a very different way than he used to. neil: the politics of it, she

knows, you know, maybe longer term these are all legitimate issues you're raising, she's pretty smart but this is just to get to next november. >> what she is doing and she doesn't really know she's doing this, she's not going to take any of the big billionaires' money. she already said she wants to be a woman of the people, take the money from the people, but let's just say she wins the nomination. these super pacs are funded by these billionaires. do you think people like jamie dimon, do you think any of these people are going to be funding those super pacs? no, they are not. so she is actually doing herself, if she gets the nomination, a disservice with the super pacs who do not coordinate with the campaign, who can take money from anywhere. they're not going to do it. neil: an early lesson, if you think, you don't want to glean too much into the four states of the races going on this week but much like in 2018, the moderate candidate won. the moderate candidates made the difference. certainly in the virginia

legislature, they got the run of the table there. one of the things i noticed interestingly enough is that in state after state, even for the victorious democratic candidate, let's say it's still too early because the election is not officially called, recount is going on in kentucky, it was the moderate alternative. it was moderates who gained the big chunk of the 40 house seats that democrats won. if that isn't a message to the democrats right now, it's something they ought to consider. i'm just throwing it out there. >> i think that's absolutely right. what elizabeth warren is trying to do right here is move to the far, far left of the democratic party in order to win the nomination. bernie came out with the $23 trillion tax plan so elizabeth warren had to counter with a $26.3 trillion tax plan to move to his left. neil: by the way, it's been priced at closer to $35 trillion. but you're right. maybe that's it. even the trillions, you know, you might as well just say a

gazillion. what are you talking about? >> monopoly money. i don't know, how much is this. neil: they do analogies where if you line up dollar bills all the way to jupiter. >> that's absolutely right because trump's policies, his main policies, taxes, regulation, trade, not too long ago, those were all considered moderate positions. they have only recently been called extreme positions. as you mentioned, that's because the democrats which had many of these moderate positions themselves for a long period, they have moved so far to the left. neil: it's galvanizing republicans. you were telling me about the impeachment stuff not too long ago. i'm wondering if issues like this could do it as well. i always wondered with this ukraine, would the president have been nearly as interested if it were any other candidate but joe biden that was worthy of getting some information on, because he was the biggest threat. >> of course. neil: they don't see elizabeth warren as the biggest threat.

i can prove wrong but what do you think? what's playing out here? >> you laid it out. that's exactly, people see warren as a lesser threat than biden. the only reason biden in my opinion as a strategist is a threat to trump is because trump won in those states that were normally blue, working man blue collar working state. who other can appeal to the working man in those states, and that's joe biden because he's got that roll up your sleeves kind of working man appeal. that's about it. everyone else is governing so far to the left and not in the middle, he's the only person that you could actually even as a republican, you go to sleep, you wake up, wall street's not going to be in disarray. neil: the president's push has been in these ad campaigns not perfect, but better. i'm not the same but all these other guys, don't compare them on things take really matter. i guess they tested that to the point that they think that's going to make the difference,

that when push comes to shove and the campaign is on, that is what the president will keep pounding. you might not personally flip over me, you might not like my tweeting, you might not like how i fire people by tweet, or whatever, but look what i've done. >> i think there's a lot to be said there, because the economy is humming along very nicely. there are some concerns we have with capital investment and a couple other indicators but jobs numbers are fantastic, stock market is doing well. neil: flip it around, are you surprised the president isn't running away with this thing? >> he probably ought to be running away with this thing, especially when you look at some of the nominees the democrats are offering up that are again, so far to the left that they can't really appeal to those moderate suburban independent voters the way that perhaps a biden could. biden is losing track to people like warren and sanders who keep trying to out-left, outflank each other as far as the progressive wing as they possibly can. >> they don't even really like joe biden. he's almost like a cardboard prop.

they are not all thrilled about joe biden. that's why he's having a lot of difficulty with cash. >> he's also not running away with it i think because he gets hammered every single day by most of the media. slammed. he has no allies in the media. he's not a -- neil: he has a lot more than donald trump. >> i'm talking about trump. neil: oh, i thought you were talking about -- oh, all right. >> biden was with obama so how do you -- how does he square i'm sort of a middle of the road guy and i was obama -- >> because obama doesn't seem as extreme as warren and bernie, now that he's miles down the road in the past. >> obama was in office for eight years and he was extreme. >> i'm not arguing on behalf of obama. [ speaking simultaneously ] neil: quick break here. the u.s. government collected a record amount of money in tariffs and the chinese are

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house, hard to say, blake burman at the white house with more details on all of this. hey, blake. reporter: hi, neil. democrats wanted to talk to john bolton, the former national security adviser, behind closed doors on capitol hill today as part of the impeachment inquiry. that did not happen, though, as bolton was a no-show. what was interesting about this one is democrats have not issued a subpoena yet for bolton to appear. part of the reasoning there could be that that could lead to a court battle afterwards, especially since there are executive issue -- executive privilege issues at play and that could just draw out the process. bolton is a key figure in the impeachment inquiry. there is sworn testimony that bolton was so irritated about a july meeting here at the white house with ukrainian officials because there was a link between president zelensky getting a meeting over here at the white house to investigations into buris burisma. according to the sworn testimony, bolton had told a

colleague to brief nse lawyers about exactly what was going on. up the hill, democrats say they are going to use this against the president, saying in a stateme statement, quote, we regret mr. bolton's decision not to appear voluntarily but we have no interest in allowing the administration to play rope-a-dope with us in the courts for months. rather, the white house instruction that he not appear will add to the evidence of the president's obstruction of justice. as for president trump, he has been focusing his attention today in part on twitter, at least, to a story that first broke in "the washington post" of which other outlets have followed, and according to the reporting, the president wanted the attorney general, that man right there, bill barr, to hold a news conference after he had released the transcript of the july 25th call between himself and president zelensky, and wanted the attorney general to say that the president did not break any laws during that news conference. here at the white house, they are pushing back hard on this one and so too, neil, has the president on twitter.

he has sent a few tweets today. i will give you a sampling with one of them in which he writes quote, the degenerate "washington post" made up the story about me asking bill barr to hold a news conference. never happened and there were no sources. back to bolton for a second real briefly, he did make his way up on the hill. there's a real question as to if he might eventually testify and if it gets to that point, when that could potentially happen. neil? neil: we will watch it closely. thank you very, very much. blake at the white house. the impeachment push is certainly building up some steam now. the question, though, is all these issues that have been brought up have everything to do with ukraine, what the president knew and said and when he was knowing and saying it, nothing, nothing, zilch, zippo, on the mueller probe. that's telling in and of itself. >> um-hum. the bigger question is what does this do to his re-election, what does this do to his reputation and you know, going forward with the election. that's kind of where i'm looking at.

you know, we just got finished with mueller, with russia, with the whole thing. i think a lot of republicans that i know were breathing a sigh of relief only to be re-entered into another impeachment inquiry that actually may have a little bit more legs. neil: you talk, you are a bundler and all this stuff, do they worry -- not that he's going to be thrown out of office, i can't see this going anywhere in the senate even if he's impeached in the house. leaving that aside, democrats clearly want to say we are running against an impeached president. you could say that. are they worried about that? >> i think that they are worried about it. i think they just don't -- they don't like it and i feel like they think that trump did this to himself. he's not a victim here. neil: this was all put to bed, then out of the blue, this ukraine call. >> if you know people are gunning for you, you know people hate you, you've got a lot of

people at your back and he knows it. rather than putting fuel on the fire, you should know everything i'm doing is being watched right now and it's re-election, maybe i should mind my words, watch what i say and basically, he knows better. now we are now in this, with people having to testify, it's an ongoing -- neil: in other words, he made that call and you might be right. it reminds me of the famous nixon/frost interviews where mixmix nixon said i gave him a sword. the president might be giving them a sword. outside of the fact it drags on, we do know in the watergate hearings that they dragged on to the point, a lot of people said he did what, you know, and the sentiment, public sentiment changed. night and day here but is that what the president should worry about? clearly the markets are not. they don't think anything will come of this. sometimes they are a great barometer, sometimes not.

>> he's under attack every single day all day long. how could he not fight back? schiff is given all this credibility by the mainstream media controlled by the far left so it's playing all the time. he has to fight back. you know, there has -- neil: did he give them fuel to the fire by even -- >> asking for biden -- neil: right. >> i read the transcript, i don't see one single thing wrong with it by the whole conversation. >> why would you even bring up biden during a presidential election? >> the president is in charge of national policy. he's in charge -- what's wrong with the president saying you know, those were all legitimate questions. why should he not do that? neil: in the backdrop with everything else, i understand what you are saying and others have argued it just as eloquently, that you know, this was a real issue but if it were not joe biden, would he have been pursuing it as aggressively? >> no. if it was kamala harris. >> i don't see anything aggressive in that transcript. i saw him asking very -- you know, other people have been

looking into the 2016 election constantly. the president of the united states asking -- [ speaking simultaneously ] >> the whole conversation was totally misrepresented by the media. i'm glad he released it. >> i think what's missing here is the white house kind of controlling that narrative that mike is articulating here. they are pushing back against process, they are saying read the transcript but they're not articulating why the president brought up what he did during that phone call. what is the substantive reason for discussing joe biden in that call. was there a national security issue. was there legitimate corruption issue. neil: i see everything mike is saying, believe me, but i would just be aware of the noise that you just encountered over the mueller probe and involving a sovereign nation potentially in a u.s. election. here, you are appearing, appearing maybe that wasn't your intention, to be doing the same. right? >> that's the very question that i'm saying. i think the administration needs

to take on head-on. right now they are complaining about process, complaining about adam schiff, saying we don't like the way this is being carried out. that's fine, but at some point you have to fight the actual accusations the democrats are making that there was some form of bribery or quid pro quo, however they want to describe it. neil: maybe they can do it successfully. >> the transcript is there. you can read it. what amazes me is why are we talking about how trump, should trump have mentioned biden, why isn't anybody talking about or looking into what biden and his son were doing? neil: you can do both. >> why can't trump just run on his great economic policies that are through the roof and take pride in that and sit back and be quiet and not have to enter into what we are all talking about in the news now, another impeachment deal. we have the most beautiful policies ever known and he has created all these policies, he's

made the room for less regulations which is attributing to a good economy as well, and instead of focusing on that, we are taking our eye away from the ball and looking at him talking to the president saying you should look into the bidens. >> he talks about it all the time, the economy. constantly. neil: he also talks about this constantly. all right. meantime, netflix's cash burn is continuing. they speed through money faster than congress. that was not meant to be an insult to congress. after this. does your broker offer more than just free trades? fidelity has zero commissions for online u.s. equity trades and etfs, plus zero minimums to open a brokerage account. with value like this, there are zero reasons to invest anywhere else. fidelity. ( ♪ )

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neil: that's what i'm talking about. what has better odds, making a half court shot or getting a china trade deal this year?

this guy set with tuition and everything, college, the whole nine yards for doing that. he was also reacting to finally being able to get fox business in his home. that's another little side light there. okay. sometimes if find it amusing that's good enough for me. okay. mike, you know, i still think the odds look better for this guy after the fact now than they do for a limited china deal but i could be cynical. >> i think it's a little better for a china deal. i'm going to surprise you. neil: all right. all right. >> i think that's one of the reasons why the markets are doing so well. and i think it's one of the reasons why the energy sector, which was the worst performing sector up until this week, has turned the table and has now been the best performing sector this week. neil: interesting. what do you make of that? >> i think first, we have to define what a china deal is, because we keep moving back and back and back in defining that. we know when the ball goes

through the hoop they made the basket. what is a china deal? neil: whoa, whoa, whoa. goes through the hoop. >> when it comes to the china deal, does that mean not going through with the tariffs that are scheduled to be implemented on december 15th, does that mean making structural reforms to the chinese economy, which is -- neil: we are grateful for so little that the prospect of tariffs go away and that's fine? >> that is a step in the right direction, as is increasing ag purchases. china has already taken steps in that direction which is very encouraging but we are nowhere near the $20 billion, $30 billion a year they were buying before this trade war blew up. if we can get back to that point, if we can have certainty, quell some of the volatility that's happened in the markets and elsewhere, then that's a win. we'll take it. it's not as big a win as we hoped for and probably were initially promised but it's a step in the right direction. >> i think the market wants to believe. maybe they want to believe. maybe every time there's a picture of a handshake or some sort of favorable headline, they want to believe it so bad.

because it's in their best interest. neil: they also don't like the uncertainty of the two biggest economic powers on the planet in a trade war. right? so just add that, because i don't think their heart was in it to the degree the president's was to get china to change the behavior. you think that's going the change? >> just suppose, just suppose that we do get the china deal. however we want to define it. and simultaneously, we get the passage of the trade deal with mexico and canada. both of those together. neil: and you're off to the races. >> off to the races. >> the whole thing, all this started with china because they were as a standard practice stealing our intelligence. i mean, the standard way of doing business, you know. how far are we in that movement of correcting that? has this gotten lost in the whole deal with china? how out in center, front and center, is the practice of them stealing our intelligence with companies? where is that?

>> i think the goalposts have moved quite a bit on that front because what we're talking about there again is structural reforms to their economy. they have joint venture requirements they hold on to very dearly, and as a unilateral negotiating objective -- >> they going to change that? it's in their business culture. you are asking them to reverse their business culture. are they going to change that? >> i don't think unilateral pressure from the united states is sufficient to make them change that. i think what we -- >> that was one of the biggest things. neil: you're saying he was out of his mind. >> i was out of my mind before that. neil: is it really difficult to make a half court shot like that young guy did? >> yeah, i don't know, it's got to be 10,000 to 1, something like that. that's why they have those contests because hardly anyone ever wins. neil: is that right? okay. that's why we showed it. it's such a unique event. >> compared to the trade deal, trade deal is favorable. neil: all right.

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apparently they really meant what they said. walgreens is now partnering with google for drone delivery to your doorstep. this will start with drugs and it could extend to a lot of other things. hillary vaughn has been taking a close look at this. hey, hillary. reporter: hey, neil. you are getting an inside look at the process that goes into filling these packages and sending them to the drone. this is a partnership with wing, walgreens and fed ex. right now you are seeing an order go out and they are going to meet the drone that's in the air. this whole process happens very quickly, from when the order comes in, they click send drone, the drone dispatches and then you essentially have liftoff. there's a few benefits at play here on why this service is -- they think will actually be the future of delivery, especially in suburban communities. these drones can travel up to 65 miles per hour so you are zipping through suburban communities faster than a car can. there's no traffic lights, there's no traffic or construction slowing you down.

they can go directly to their delivery point so you can get something that you order on the walgreens app within minutes to your door, and they think that this really is what you are seeing now is the future of deliveries just like this. they are also partnering with fed ex and they participate in what they call the last mile delivery. fed ex in the morning brings packages here, they drop them off to what's called the drone nest. that's where the drones sit and wait until they essentially are sent out on a mission, then they deliver the fed ex packages directly door to door to that location, which i talked to fed ex today and they say that especially in rural communities, drone delivery is a lot more cost effective and a lot safer because you don't have to worry about inclement weather for drivers. neil? neil: what if they mistakenly send it to your neighbor's house, though? reporter: that is a problem.

that is something that they do think about and they make sure that doesn't happen. neil: okay. we'll just see. thank you very much. yeah, bob, i think these are yours. i don't know. small business is turning to robots to ramp up efficiency. i don't know whether they are going to be up in the air or not but it is the new trend. robert gray has all the details on that. hey, robert. reporter: hey, neil. that's right. you know, time is of the essence. everyone expects to get their deliveries the next day. small and medium size companies are trying to compete with the amazons of the world who have their own robotics companies. that's where this company comes in. we are in westlake village just outside of l.a. taking a look at how these robots work. they basically sell them as a robotics as a service, basically a monthly subscription service that allows these smaller and medium sized businesses to better compete with amazon. >> robots are enabling our customers to become more efficient with their current people, to be able to pick more

orders at a faster rate. reporter: okay. so here's how they work. they have camera on there, they can read the scanner so when they get the orders communicated to them, they know exactly where to go. then it has this little tote and it's going to put it back, it's already delivered basically it grabs it off the shelf and then it can put it back. not only do they take the orders out and take them to a human who unloads this tote box and puts it into your shipping box, it gets out to your doorstep the next day, it can also help with returns. that is key in january to help these companies with what's known as the wall of shame. that's all the returns of things that stack up because it's so cost-ineffective to return them back by hand with humans doing it. they have the robots go through and they can actually take them back. if you need one for your garage, they start at about $2,000 a month and go up into the tens of thousands of dollars for a subscription depending on how big and complicated it is. one other good thing about having it as a subscription service, i'm told, talking to the ceo, that you are able to

expand and ramp up your subscription to add more robots, if you are not run over by them. they have sensors just like your car so it doesn't bowl me over there, but you are able to add more work flow and more robots during higher seasonality. neil? neil: you know, right out of the gate they are more productive than my teenaged sons. right out of the gate. they are not arguing with you, not giving you any attitude. this looks intriguing. robert, thank you very much, my friend. all right. speaking of technology, major league baseball is seriously looking at implementing an automated strike zone at some minor league ball parks next year. rememb remember what do you think? >> i think it will happen. i don't want it to happen. i think sports, there's more and more eliminating the human element of the game which i think is a compelling reason for following sports. i think it will happen.

neil: apparently it would always be accurate. there would be no arguing. >> it's fascinating. it holds a lot of promise, especially after watching some of the world series games where umpires missed the calls very badly and sometimes that means the difference between strike three, batter getting another pitch and maybe hitting a home run and changing the game. neil: they also say about football, you get a version of this going in football, you're off to the races. >> absolutely. i think tennis provides a pretty good analogy because they have a process by which they are able to digitally look at whether the ball was in or out. they even make it a fan-friendly experience. you can see on the big board if you are at the stadium, you see the ball land, the people cheer or boo, depending on whether it helped or hurt their player. neil: it's progress until they take jobs away. what are they going to do next? financial anchors? what do you think of this? >> i'm going to keep trending with the negative responses here. i think it's un-american to have any sort of a robot umpire or

anything -- neil: they used to say that about the assembly of cars, though. now half of them are done mechanically. >> that's behind the scenes, not like sports. robots and you know, different technologies i think are good in some aspects. i think on the drone delivery, that aspect seems kind of slow but also, how do you return? do you return by drone and what happens if your kid plays a joke and puts their laundry? what's being returned? i think it's a cluster but i think, you know, the other aspects of having robots i think -- neil: just odd at the end of the show you are suddenly pro-human being. what happened? what happened? guys, thank you all very, very much. nothing wrong with technology as long as it doesn't involve my job. all right. big anniversary to tell you about. 30 years ago, the berlin wall came tumbling down. why is communism rising again? after this.

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years it has stained this planet over and over and over again. for some reason, countries, people row mamanticize the bene, embrace it and what ends up is not only economic chaos but lost lives and broken countries. neil: what happens, it's usually borne of the failure of the system that they see already out there or this gap you hear talked about even in successful capitalist countries between the haves and the have-nots. the rich and the poor, you write about it all the time. i'm not saying it gains traction where they dump that and go to something else but they start looking intriguingly at getting everything and not having to pay anything. charles: yeah. we do that in this country. we have had successful presidents, republican, democrat, republican, democrat, one doesn't give us what we want, we go to the other party. think about what's happening around the world right now. you know, we aren't seeing rebellions based by people in poverty. we are seeing middle class rebellions in lebanon, chile,

spain, you know, things like the whatsapp tax or hiking subway fares. things that middle class people around the world have the luxury of being able to complain about and even protest about, but they want the promise of even more in a just society and that's when this sounds appealing. neil: do you think it does gain traction here? charles: i think it's gaining traction. i will say that the folks behind it, the architects behind it have been smart. first they started to infiltrate colleges and now there's a lot of these programs in high schools around this country and it's pretty easy when stars get on the stage who make $40 million a year and win an award and deride the very system that propelled them to stardom and complain that it's unfair. they have major seeds into our youth right now. it's hard to ignore. neil: thank you, my friend. always learn a lot. it is a reminder that whatever we take for granted, try not to. it's not a birthright. in the meantime, could boomers soon bear the burden of rising millenial health problems because the millenials are

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neil: all right. suffering boomer problems while still young. millenials now looking at higher health care costs as a result of stuff that's going on all around them. a lot of them pointing the finger at, well, their parents or older folks in general. new survey finds that millenials might see 33% higher health care costs than what baby boomers were paying at their exact same age. the nyu school of medicine associate professor dr. debbie

natviaporompo. i hope i got that right. help me with this. a lot of people are looking at this and saying they are just complaining about stuff that's always been out there, it's inflation, it isn't that you are particularly targeted or getting particularly fingered for these high costs. you say? >> well, there are a few different things going on. first, there's our culture that's changing, right. so we see people who are indoors more, maybe not exercising, working longer hours -- neil: why are you looking at me? you're right about that. you are exactly right. >> so for old people, may have been more prone to get certain conditions. if you're not moving as much, you don't have as much control over your diet and exercise, maybe higher blood pressure, higher cholesterol which is what we are seeing, more diabetes. neil: in other words, i did see that, that a lot of people are getting these conditions at a much younger age. it's one thing if you're my age, 39 or so, but it's another if you're, well, 39 or so. what's going on? >> exactly.

i think part of it also has to do with people getting diagnosed earlier because they are seeing the doctor more often. we have more medical advances. you see the doctor -- neil: are you seeing it in your own clientele? >> yeah, i see it. a couple different things. people come to me already knowing more information, they already know what symptoms to report. people are more tech-savvy to begin with and more health aware so they get diagnosed with diseases for that reason. another reason is we can treat it earlier. in the past if we had, for example, depression, we didn't have a lot of treatments available to people. there's a lot of stigma several decades ago, but now, you might get diagnosed, you may have options for treatment, your insurance might cover it if you have a formal diagnosis, right. so that changes, too. and this data is coming from insurance companies so one of the technicalities in our system is that you can't really go consult with doctors about how to prevent a lot of problems. maybe your primary care physician but not a lot of specialists. neil: maybe the technology itself, we know or can get this stuff much earlier. right? >> exactly. you can develop conditions

earlier, we are learning more about that, but we also screen for things earlier. so we screen for things that don't necessarily cause symptoms whereas in the past, people had to have symptoms, then go see the doctor, then get diagnosed. so just being diagnosed doesn't mean it's worse. it might be that you could get treated earlier and actually have better health, but i would say because the technology has advanced, the costs are going up, not just because of the health condition but because of all of the tests -- neil: a lot of millenials are complaining, there's a study out, they are complaining about boomers who won't leave the job market and it's frustrating them. they can't get to those higher salaries and better opportunities because the older folks are refusing to leave. when you talk to your patients, does that ever come up? >> it does. it comes up in different ways, just all the job stress, being pressured to take on more responsibilities. we even see it in the hospital in terms of administration and leadership. but i think it's because our country as a whole is facing hard times, right. so if there were more jobs available, if there was more to

be had, then you wouldn't be fighting over what, you know -- neil: we got a lot of jobs we can't find people for. kamala harris is making some news, the presidential candidate, california senator, calling for a longer school day, three hours longer. she says it would be better for the parents, obviously, they could have more time to work jobs, et cetera. i think i get that part of it. also arguing that the schools abroad have longer school days, particularly in asia, and the kids are brilliant and all that. net-net positive. what do you think of all that? >> i think we have to look at our culture specifically. a lot of people, it's a serious concern, how to balance work along with child care, even time with the family and just having free time just to play, right? but i don't know if this is the right solution, because we know in adults, the longer hours that you work, the more chance of having just musculoskeletal problems and other health problems. we think it's related to job stress. and school is the equivalent for kids. so some kids thrive at school. they are really happy if they had extra hours, they would be

happy but some kids really struggle, plus then you have to say that's time taken away maybe from family. they have to do their homework when they get home. it's much more complicated than looking at other areas and saying oh, well, they have more hours. that's why they do better. neil: so it's a bad idea. doctor, thank you very much. that was a free lesson, free treatment there. very good seeing you. >> you, too. neil: a lot more coming up. who says retail is dying right now? ralph lauren shares are surging precisely because at least they are not all. after this. ♪ she's the one the one for you when you know you just know she isn't perfect but she's perfect for you love is rare love's unique love is her love is him love is us ♪

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neil: all right. a quick peek at the dow right now. we're well into record territory save for the s&p and nasdaq a lot buoyed by trade optimism there, very little by politics or impeachment. speaking of the politics part of that, mississippi's new governor-elect, republican tate

reeves will be my special guest on "your world." we'll talk about the meaning of the special elections across four states. the rise of the moderate, at least in the democrats, a potential contrast to one elizabeth warren. we shall see. to charles payne right now. hey, charles. charles: thank you very much, neil. good afternoon, i'm charles payne. this is making money. breaking at this moment the bull market on full parade. we're hitting all-time highs thanks to wave of strong earnings thanks to you, the american consumer is. 28,000 in our sites? we'll debate that. china trade news sparking early move in these markets tomorrow. will the december tariffs never happen? they're talking about rolling back established tariffs. why all of the signs are saying it might really happen this time. pro athletes are not just blowing smoke when it comes to cbd. why they're trying to be the driving force behind the so-called miracle medicine that