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anyway. that does it for us. thanks for joining us. >> fireworks at the beginning of the show, records all of the way, "bulls and bears" starts right now. david: great news, more winning on wall street, new record highs for the dow and s&p 500 fueled by optimism that u.s. and china are considering rolling back tariffs when phase one trade deal is reaches, fox did come off their highs on reports of fears of opposition to the idea within the white house, look at shares of gap after hours, dropping about 7%, on news that ceo art peck will step down, replaced by chairman robert fisher. this is on an interim basis, we'll follow that. right here. in the meantime new privacy and security concerns after justice department charges two former
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twitter employees and a saudi national of spying on users for saudi arabia. marks the first time that federal prosecutors publicly accused of saudi kingdom of running agents here in the united states, and raises new questions about security of our personal information on-line. this is "bulls and bears," i am david asman, thank you for joining us, join joining me on e panel today, justice department says that twitter employee are accused of accessing user e-mail address, birthdays and other personal information from more than 6,000 twitter accounts, they were seep as critic -- seen as critics of the saudi government. twitter said they restrict access to sensitive account information to a limited group of trained and vetted employees, but there are holes in the system, is there anything thing twitter facebook and other soisl
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media companies can do to convince us our information is safe. >> no. it is not safe, everyone just has to recognize that everything you put on the internet, all that is vulnerable. most of us don't have to worry about retribution from saudi government, but a lot of people had careers ruined by sending ought a -- out a tweet or post to facebook that comes to haunt them 10 years later, a reminder to be very careful how you engage in social media. >> we're out there, i read it over 2 or three times before i'm
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not. twittetwitter has over 350 milln users, there is no way you can catch every thing. whether you have bad players, it takes just one or two, figure the saudis, i am sure the russians are out there too, i am sure everyone is out there, i think they do the best they can, but, not sure that enough, we as individuals can only watch what we say, and watch what we do, don't do something stupid like mean do. >> this is a pox on saudi arabia not big technology. sawrsaudi arabia is a islamist brutal dictatorship. they were using twitter to find people who would critique his
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dedictatorship. they were look ing t looking tok people. the problem is the islamist republic of saudi arabia. >> it plays to fact that inspite of all this and the ca-- -- it is in your economic and political self interest to do so. >> i'm trying to say, we should be able to do same thing without china, without going to we should cut up relations with them, and penalize them and be punitive. we do not govern the world, this
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is a clear example of that. we can deal maturely with allies with allies. david: push back on you, and jonathan a little bit, there are things we can do. the saudis went and found individuals who were working at twitter they bribed, they paid them cash, fancy watches, it shows that kind of vulnerability, there are laws again that. that is why these people are under arrest. that is why they think there are ways to police the situation, won't that make it better. >> i think that problem is just the scale. if you go after every employee and monitoring every employee at facebook, google -- >> maybe you have to, liz, maybe you have to. >> this is up to the individual to be cautious about their own personal. david: maybe they have to be more cautious about their employees. >> you know they will. david: i don't know that.
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this proves otherwise. >> but there are bad apples in every bushel, and facebook and twitter will take it more seriously. but saudi arabia are the villains here. for perpetrating this. >> do you not think china has access and russia the same. sawesaudi arabia may be a terrie government, there a lot of terrible governments in the world, they all have some way, when it appears china broke in stole 22 highly classify american data that was egregious breach, we've really never done anything about it. >> we have the same capabilities we should and maintain and alerted the world to what the national security agency is capable of doing, probably in order a magnitude greater than the rest. and in 1990s -- said have you
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now privacy get over it. as a operating principle that is good, with global espyio espione have laws about that. david: 6,000 people were target oned. who said stuff that was critical of the saudi government. and you mentioned khashoggi, this is possible that one of those could be harmed as a result. i disagree with liz, i disagree with a lot. but, i do think that facebook, twittering all social media companies have to do a much better job at monitoring their employees. >> i don't think that any of these big tech companies knew how big they would get and how responsibility they would have to be. david: wake up, they have the money, do it. >> they had to adjust to the environment. i get it, but remember other part, we have serious
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authorities -- nsa, we know what they tell us what they want us to know. they are watching, i gather there are partnerships going on between our government and the companies. to find the bad actors like the saudis, i guarantee there are more out there. >> i think one last comment, it seems to me that u.s. government is no better protecting our data than the companies. i think that is what i was alluding to with the opm breach, no one has figured out how to lockdown information, maybe it should be encrypted. >> it out there. >> president's henchmen are not going to chop you up if you are critical of him the same way that mbs will. >> the chinese stole it big time, they are just as worrisome
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as saudis. david: in this case, a message needs to be sent to the employees, you cannot do this. that is why law enforcement got in there and pressing home that message. >> scott mcnealy was so right so many years ago in front of all this, we're all out there, all our information is out there and we gleefuly and gladly give it out to some places that go to others, i cannot begin to tell you how many ads i get just geeing to one web site, welcome to the world, get used to it, it is getting worse as we go forward. david: be last word. >> disney just out with 4th quarter earnings, we brake down therupts -- we break down what the results mean for the future of streaming, coming next. most people think of verizon as a reliable phone company. (woman) but to businesses, we're a reliable partner.
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david: shares of disney higher, after earnings topped expectations for 4th quarter. gerri willis at new york stock exchange. the parks are doing well? reporter: you bet, stock price up 6% over hours, reporting a beat on top and bottom line. expectations were 95 cents a share, revenue beat expectations, positive on here, cable network revenue for quarter increase 20%, park revenues up 8%, and studio revenue up 52%, largely on back of "toy story 4", lion king and aladdin. there was a negative, there was an increase in quarterly direct to consumer operating loss. due to cost of upcoming launch of disney plus out next week, two other headlines tonight, disney plus will be distributed
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on amazon fire tv, and espn plus now reporting to 3.5 million subscribers. a lot of news from the mouse, most is positive. david: almost 6% after hours, thank you. >> your reaction on the news, disney plus we hear that netflix is vowing to spend more money on content, wow disney will do? investors think it will do fine. >> disney will do fantastic with their streaming. their brand name is one of top 3, i think in the world, they priced it right, they under price everyone element i do -- everyone else, i do worry about netflix, i want to mention that parks are going gangbusters, they opened a "star wars" land here, they bought marvel for basically nothing years ago they
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are killing it with that, they have done everything right, just tough to grow a huge company, earnings down over 20%, but revenues up over 20%, i think great things are ahead, iger will begun -- gone i think a year or 2. >> a have fox studio integration to come, they paid more than for other lucas films or mar -- marvel, the streaming wars, which is not quite a war could see different playering be winners as -- players be winners as viewing habits and entertainment habits, and netflix is a more challenging position, they have to spend this multibillions for the acquisition cost, that is why stock is -- netflix not disney. >> the trade war is a tax, but the streaming war, we're
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benefiting from this. almost amazing, hulu, disney, they are all falling over themselves. >> irony of this from a consumer perspective, they said they will unbundle. >> they are just loading on. >> you add up ala carte it is more than cable. >> not everyone will add 5 different services, they will pick and choose. question is how long before we know who the winners and losers are. disney seems to be almost i in n position. and you talk about tens of billions of dollars on what is after all an uncertain product, remember how many flops in the movie,. that is netflix. >> don't discount the theme parks be have you millions of
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kids, they say i want to go to disney, they don't say i want to go do netflix land, they want to go to disney world. melissaworld. >> iger genius tying them all together. and i think that netflix will be interesting to watch. >> jonathan, i now want to go to netflix land. >> it will be interesting to see what happens with directv who have been th the th been losing. david: i agree with jonathan. competition that is best tv era in history of mankind, bill gates fighting back on the warra
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david: second richest man in world, bill gates taking a jab at wealth taxes proposed by 2020 democrats like elizabeth warren. he supports higher taxes but senator warren's fan goes too far. >> i have paid over 10 billion in taxes, i paid more than anyone in taxes. but i -- you know i'm glad to have paid, if i had to pay 20 billion that is fine. but you know when you say i should pay a hundred billion, then i start to do some math about what i have left over. david: elizabeth warren hit back this afternoon at a campaign event.
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>> you may have heard some billionaires on tv crying about that 2 cent wealth tax. awe . but we ask the top one-tenth of 1% to pitch in two corrects f their fortune. david: 2 is 2%. but we'll get it that, considering bill gates gave away the billions during his career too charity is he not better. >> he gave away billions. but what most important, he made billions of dollars, that is the whole point, elizabeth warren is advocating for those, that is what it is, if your neighbor takes your money that is theft, still theft in people vote on
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taking your money. this is his money, it is private. not elizabeth warren's to distribute. she thinks that rich people like bill gates are like scrooge mcduck with a big roomful of money they just swim in it. to him the new production and new job. david: i have to do this wealth tax is different from an income tax. that is what jonathan was getting. they take part of your property where they have already paid taxes, someone has to value, and decide you know which part of that has to be given away. >> i think that most offensive part of this class warfare act from elizabeth warren is it is founded on two lies, first is we don't have a progressive income tax, rich people in america don't pay their quote fair share, that is most heinous cliche in this election season,
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in a pay far more than anyone else, they have a steeply progressive income tax, it really bugs me she bugs she talk positive 2 cents, just two cents, as david pointed out, 2% of what have you worked hard for. david: already paid tax on. >> it is not hers. >> it is flow foundly. >> interesting someone that did not earn the wealth wants to take it away, but someone who earned wealth wants to give it away to great causes, what bill gates has done for this world, with so many things like malaria in africa, this woman is acting like he is a bad guy, bottom line, elizabeth warren forget the manufactur most important aa socialist, never give out specifics you or you will get called on it her.
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>> bill gate and warren buffet and many people believe that paying taxes in particular more taxes could be justified for the greater social good. the issue with warren is not necessarily she proposed that, i know you disagree with it. the issue is scorn and disdain, i will keep saying is trumpian in dismissal of anyone -- >> no. >> it is -- >> you know, elizabeth warren is not only one with this endless disdain for wealth created by productive people, remember aol shalsoalexandria ocasio-cortez s joining in on this attack. saying y'all the billionaires are asking for a safe space, you know. and in addition to inter u.s. -- entire u.s. economy and political lobbying industry,
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that -- progressives ignoring the question about what a wealth tax has elizabeth warren suggests it would do to the economy. >> if i were consulting a slew of billionaires, i would say entering the fray at this particular moment is a mistake, a big target, unnecessary. >> no is isn't. >> but i'm saying there is no need right now for everyone to pile on, other people can make the argument. >> it is afternoon eas -- it isn easy punching bag. >> right now billion ars in their rooms with accountants and attorneys looking at bahamas there is a reason why elizabeth warren will have a 40% exit tax she knows how bad her proposal is, wealthy are not stupid, you think they will just sit there and take it she is up to 6% a year. per year for billionaires, in 16 years they are out all that
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money. david: by the way, forgive me it is anyone that makes over 50 million, and that number comes down the mi minimum amount your wealth tax comes down. >> i'm saying you doom have youe certain arguments in certain ways you know you will lose. fighting it the way right now plays into hands -- >> good point and last one, abc news trying to get to the bottom of who leaked an off air tape of amy robot meanting about her story about jeffrey epstein that shelved or spiked. doug byrnes on this coming up. fun fact: 1 in 4 of us millennials have debt we might die with. and most of that debt is actually from credit cards. it's just not right. but with sofi, you can get your credit cards right,
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>> interview with virginia roberts, we would not put it on the air, i was sold who is jeffrey epstein, no one knows, palace found we had allegations about prince andrew and threatened us a million different ways, she told us everything, she has been hiding for 12 years, we convinced her to talk to us. it was unbelievable what we had, clinton, we had everything. david: that is when you don't ask if your mic is hot, she did not know she was being recorded this fallout from that leaked tape of amy r -- slamming her
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network for shelving the story of epstein before the 2016 election. both she and abc have said the story did not air because it did not meet the staying's journalistic standards, now abc focused on how it went public. let's bring in former federal prosecutor doug byrnes, there is politics, did they kill epstein piece because it would make the clintons look back, and clintons had friends at abc news, that is why i'm wondering if that woman who has been fired can claim she was just a whistleblower. >> interesting legal leo this l-
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league, on this one. here, if she is an at will employee at cbs, she can be terminated or fired. however, to your point. if there is some public dissystem natio -- disseminatioe heard from your former employees did something wrong that could create legal problems. >> what would legal problem be? what law has she broken. >> you are interfering with the employment of another, a tort claim, not really interference with contract necessarily, snroa writtethereis no written contrai call someone up, i have seen this over and over, with law enforcement. you know the fbi called the employee, said this guy is under investigation, that is ugly, people get penalizes they lose
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their jobs. good news that it has not happened that many times, but here, point is, you know, if they call, like a reference situation, by the way you may' to know that this person is working for you, you know did something bad in the past. okay fine. but again, it gets murky. >> if she was leaking privileged material at abc. i would think that is legitimate cause for her an subsequent employer to wonder if she would do the same thing, she did not invoke whistle protection or go through whatever channel. if i steal documents from my employer and leak them to fox news, i might think that is right thing to to for all sorts of reasons but my employer might not. >> a good clarification, it boils down to the validity of it. if the person hypothetically did not do anything wrong, and you
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said we didn't confirm it yet that is different, but if you say the open sit, then you are right that behave you behavior s for termination. >> there is another whistleblower story in the news. mark zoo -- zaid, defending a 2007 tweet among others. what do you think? does this discredit the whistleblower's lowe case. >> i think it is troubling. a colleague said, this is very troubling, kind of comical, in extortion cases when we're in water, they are like i'm going to get you, trust me, and in
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trial they say oh, no, i'm just getting a lawyer, they said the same thing, i meant based on my prognostication. what he said was horrible, he said he is going to not finish his term, he will be impeached. cnn will play a cre a key role t the best lawyer to planet cannot walk that back. >> i understand that point is discredit the whistleblower, but has anyone been discredited from the testimony from many witnesses. >> you are right, it is apples and orange, it how did it start, oranges, if i said first. oranges would be, what is the independent validity of the information, you are right, there is some corroboration and not, another comical thing that came up again, when someone changes their testimony, right
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away we're back to a moot court session, one side says a-ha he is telling the truth, you don't know that, maybe it is what he said earlier is the truth. we had standard house arguments. you can argue both ways, i have seen many witness who change their testimony to be fair and second version is true, but don't go on tv just give one version, you tell the truth that is ridiculous. >> doug, if this guy was a witness in a court of law, he is claiming something all of a sudden then tweets show up from a couple years ago circumstance -- isn't the judge going to tell witness to take a leap you are gone. >> to some, etent. >> because i'm saying have you a witness there he is claiming something. about one thing you find out two
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years ago he was determined to take down presidency, you would think that courting say something about that and lawyers jumping all over that. >> no, i get that point, a good one, up to a judge to determine how much of that type of background information would come in, but it would seem somewhat rel len -- relevant, where from a lawyer. but i can't imagine letting that bias. david: >> putting if on social media. >> thank you doug very much. >> thank you. david: we had new exciting breaking details coming in, about a michael bloomberg run for the presidency. you want to stick around for, that details on the other side of a break. does your broker offer more than just free trades? fidelity has zero commissions for online u.s. equity trades and etfs, plus zero minimums to open a brokerage account. with value like this, there are zero reasons to invest anywhere else. fidelity.
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democrat presidential primary, and expected to file paperwork this week, designating himself as a candidate. in alabama, saying bloomberg has been quieting waiting to make a bid for white house in weeks, this is first sign he is moving forward a campaign, liz, you know the mayor. you have talked to him, what do you make. >> he made no secret of the fact he is uncomfortable with progressives like bernie sanders and elizabeth warren. he is a very leading figure in the democratic party on gun control. and climate change, those of his big issues. he has a very robust resume of accomplishment. he still has a pretty ready to go staff waiting to work on a campaign holed up in townhouse here in manhattan. i'm not surprised, he has been waiting to see who emerged. and i think -- look we have talked on air before.
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many people talking about the fact that none of the leading democrat candidates are moderate enough to win the electoral college but also energetic and interesting and well financed enough. >> this is kind of part 2 to my earlier come that billionaires should not enter fray with elizabeth warren, this one shoo anshould and can enter, he is ai am progressive on side of angels with leading issues for democratic party. in the since of you know climate change, gun control, prison reform, progressive taxing a and government action. as mayor of new york he was very much a leader in government leading the way for private enterprise. he is reacting to where the democratic primaries are going and a sense maybe accurate that where they are going is unlikely to unseat donald trump who
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bloomberg is opposed to. >> he is worth 53 billion dollars, and he is a businessman. a successful businessman. and he knows what drives success he knows about success. hard work, he understands that if you tax people 70s%, and you wealth tax them 6 to 8% a year, you will end up with no wealth. in the economy, in shambles, this is quite interesting that we have a lot to do over next few months. >> gary, you cannot turn away from this, you do you miss a story line. we talk about howard testing water. i have to push back just a little bit, wasn't michael bloomberg the one in new york who instituted smaller size requirement for sugary drinks this is a progressive idea, but compared to clown show that is
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democratic party right new. david: what happens to joe bid biden. does this displace him as leading moderate. >> i was trying to be polite and say bloomberg has more energy than joe biden. i think he is just a very weak candidate, i know he is likeable, but i don't think he is sharp enough to be the candidate. >> i don't think it displaces him but it does take air out of him, we'll say for next few weeks if true. bloomberg, bloomberg, he is a very good speaker, he really -- he means what he says. and again, businessman. very, very important to "the independents" and independents win general elections, i can promise you that. david: i wonder what bernie
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sanders is going to say, he who says there should be no billionaires. >> no billionaires. >> all right. david: thank you. >> follow this story very closely here. at "bulls and bears," critics slam las vegas new ban on homeless camping as criminalizings population, we hear from city of las vegas, mayor pro temp, michelle right after this. we are a 97-year-old firm built for right now. edward jones. it's time for investing to feel individual.
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michelle fiore, you don't think it criminalizing the homeless, but they are arrested if they don't get off the street. >> here is what a lot of people want you to believe that is how it goes, but that is not what it says it is about safety, health and sanitation, does not take affect until january 2020, for next 90 days we're talking with our people that are camping, not so much of being homeless but those who camp in public right aways and private property to where a specific area, downtown, our ordinance first police or city marshals say you can't camp here, they can walk away. and enforcement walks away, if they say i don't know where to go we ask if they would like to us transport them, biggest thing with this ordinance is that if we don't have any space in our shelters, where they can go to get help or jobs, housing, and
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healthy check ups, then we don't enforce it. houour ordinance mihm mimics 10r cities, and 64 other cities have ordinance stronger than ours is it say total citywide ban, our is specific to downtown and residential areas in city of las vegas, funny thing about our ordinance. is we have a couple presidential candidates attack the city, senators bernie sanders, out of vermont, has attacked the city for the ordinance, meanwhile vermont has the same one, and senator warren out of boston, massachusetts, massachusetts area, they have the same ord ordinance in boston, i want to tell them make sure whatever is writing your stump speech please know your own laws of your own
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state. >> i am not a citizen of las vegas, i would thank you, i wish, you were here with clean up the days, streets are not for sleeping and camping, they are for transport, and so many people are not really homeless, what is going on there are so many differenters. >> well -- drifters. >> unofficially we have oregon bus some folks on the city of las vegas, we caught 12 individuals that were bussed to the city from oregon. which was not polite. but however, we are addressing that issue now. and so, we are working diligently, again, the biggest thing with that ordinance is to give the folk thattur that thate hopeless a hand up -- homeless a hand up, we look at hiring, housing and healthiness, getting you a job, getting you trains.
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>> and off the streets i hope. >> off of the streets, yes. >> just a quick question about pure p pr, if if is as you describe, why is it described as you just articulated. >> this is very unfortunate that we have a couple of groups here in city of las vegas, who is progress every something they're way out, that literally, my chief of staff got a text from them said, please show up on the city council, they are criminalizing homelessness, they will round up the homeless and put them in jail. blatant lies, literal lies, we had people, i sent you a clip of one woman came up she said her name, she was homeless, our office reached out to her, she hung up on the office, further investigations that our office, she vice chaifer clar chair of y democratic party. and when we reach to help her,
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she sattudag zaynab h said -- ss homeless, lie,ly. >lie,ly. >> people the not be fined if there is space for them in your -- no space for in the shelters, whawhat is the conditions of yor shelter. >> at the moment we have about 1300, when you hear number that the city of las vegas, like 5200 homeless, we're focusing on downtown area, private area residents shall. so looking at downtown say 5 or 600 people that are camping out. we say to them listen, you can't camp here, you can go here, if they can't get there we will transport them, if we're full we do not enforce it no one is gets arrested, no one is going to jail or see vitad -- cited or a. >> michelle fiore, thank you so much for coming in a very
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david: hollywood legend james dean has been dead for 64 years, but rebel without a cause will be back to life in a new vietnam era film, called finding jack producer at magic city film said dean will be resurrected using cgi technology, some hollywood stars and critics hate the idea, calling it shameful and yo unlal
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precedents. >> we saw this with in world of whole thing of deep fakes, creates various video images not true, this is one with no privacy get over it this is coming. >> we'll see forever our favorite actors and actresses no matter when they lived and died, i think this is bizarre, if i were living i would be furious, it will take roles away from them. >> the james dean estate is happy, i can promise you that. that. david: oh, yeah. >> this is the shape of things to come, they do it with musicians that passed away, those who are angry will be those who lose jobs, i know it. >> back in 1991, diet coke had an apple ad with louie
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armstrong. and famous dead people. >> >> that is right. >> maybe they will teach james dean how to act. this is it for "bulls and bears" we'll see you next time. >> late-breaking news on 2020, what could shake up the race, big time, "new york times" reporting that mike o michael bg is expected to file for alabama 2020 presidential primary, we look to that stocks on fire in full rally mode, dow and s&p 500 closing at record highs, rally fuel, washington and china lifting some tariffs. and that rally inspite of democrats and republicans engaged in all out political warfare over the trump impeachment inquiry, more we officials talking today behind closed-drs
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