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thank you for your service. 104 years old. there was the abominable snowm snowman, am i the only one that saw that? >> have a great weekend everybody ♪ ♪ >> we just reported that we added 266,000 jobs in november and we had the best unemployment numbers and over 54 years, a record 158 million americans are now working. thus a large number in the history of our country, were so far ahead that people cannot believe it. >> the president celebrating blockbuster job report and historic low on employment, this fueling a huge market rally with the dow closing up 337 points. all of the major averages finishing in or near positive
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territory. this is "bulls & bears" the name david asman. thank you for joining us. joining me on the panel dairy, jackie, gary and robert. november jobs report showing a stunning 266,000 new jobs added, this is way above expectation in the most in ten months. the unemployment rate down to 3.5%, this is a 50 year low and we have had 20 straight months of unemployment below 4%. so how do democrats argue that the trump economy has not been successful. >> they are going to try, i can tell you nancy pelosi said there was issues about farmers and some people being left behind, that is their job but i'm the voice of doom and look for something wrong with numbers and i cannot find any at this point in time. they are strong and they look back at the last month or two. david: and looking better. >> this looks well going into
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the holidays and the new year. i cannot begin to tell you, 3.5% unemployment is such a great number in the amount of people coming off of welfare. david: 2.5 million people lifted out of poverty. >> these are people that were taking a check in now producing a check for the government. what a huge difference. >> this is a great number and a great day for the country when the economy does well we should cheer. it's 110 straight months of private sector job gains. 3603600 president trump, those e good numbers and were now getting the average of unappointed backup over 200,000 because it has been less and we need to see continued follow-through with gdp and hopefully we see a continuation of wage wealth. david: how do democrats try to make it look bad or will they
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just focus on something else. >> i don't think it's an issue of trying to make the economy look back, i think we should share when the economy is good, there's other things happening that are not going so well, we talked to november the midterms they lost because of healthcare in my opinion. healthcare is still very expensive and we have a lot of people uninsured. there are other aspects and we help the economy stay strong. i'm not one routing it down. >> take a look at the stock market dow closing over 28000, a big rally. the traders told me home run, hit it out of the park, cannot find anything wrong with this number and they think it will be sustain because of the visio ren for september and october with an upside surprise. across-the-board this number was strong and positive news on china and everything seems to be moving in the right direction.
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>> let's put into context, it's even better than it looks. the panel so far has talked about all the great things but no one has mentioned that this comes in the face of all these unresolved negatives out there. so we have all the great market performance, we don't have the china tariffs resolved or the impeachment result, we don't have brexit resolved, any one of those brakes to the plus side. can you imagine what the market will do. it turns out right now, the u.s. has the best economy in the world, where is all the $5 trillion in cash going to go, it will not go to foreign countries, it will continue to come into this market and i think we could see a parabolic move because people will say i missed another -- >> don't say that. >> i want to make a quick point --
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>> we could get a very sharp move up and i think that would be unsustainable but the long-term for this market for this economy, i don't see any other competition. >> a quick point on impeachment talking to traders, they are not worried about it at all even if the house has the votes to do it and nancy pelosi clearly thinks that she does, they say basically all this is is a trial of public opinion to sway public opinion for the 2020 election it has nothing to do the economy or stock market. they're not focused on but i will also say one person was able to pour cold water and that was nancy pelosi, she said you can read the screen. david: despite encouraging numbers and job report offers little solid to the farmers and hard-working families who are
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struggling to stay above water with a cost-of-living rising and uncertainty searching. >> that is her job, her job is that there is much cold water on it because monstrous election coming up not just for presidency but the house in the senate so i get that. but you cannot argue with numbers. i've said this over and over on my show, 3.5%, we cannot even fathom a 50 year number on that. and far as minority numbers they are fantastic and am always looking for what is wrong and it seems you're getting acceleration not deceleration. and i live in a world where people have been calling for recession over the last year and they were shut down a little bit on that. good to see nothing bad about the numbers today and let's hope they continue. david: are you hearing any recession talk. >> absolutely not. as a matter fact going into 2020 everybody feels good. the thing that i say i see a
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market of 28000 and it scares me because it's how far and how quickly we have come but the trader say they think momentum is there and there's nothing wrong. >> i would say when all the traders are whistling and ringing the bell, we have seen down cycles before. there are a few things, not in today's numbers, today's numbers were fantastic but when we talk about manufacturing employment had a bit of a rebound because of gm but manufacturing and business investment has contracted the last quarter over quarter. david: is still has not cut into the 500,000 new jobs.
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>> not jobs i'm talking business investment. let's separated. there's a reason gdp has not gone where we thought it was going. you guys talk employment numbers, that's a great thing, when we look at gdp we look at business investment in manufacturing contraption. but it's had a huge impact on the business side. >> i was going to say part of the problem, the lack of business investment so much uncertainty out there and now that these start to see the economy is okay and as you point out retail or service companies do start to invest, they're just like human beings running these companies and their subject to the same emotions and same ups and downs and depression about whatever the market, they see things turn around and they make the investment. only a month or two ago every economist author was saying were going to have a recession. now we hear no hint of that and that slightly worries me. david: when you have 100% of people believing one thing it's a problem.
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>> we won't hear much about the fed looking to cut rates. david: troubling news out of florida to say the least, four people dead now including a gun at a naval base in pensacola, the shooter has been identified as an aviation student from saudi arabia. joint terrorism task officer steve rogers joined us next. ner, we'll inform them that liberty mutual customizes home insurance, so they'll only pay for what they need. your turn to keep watch, limu. wake me up if you see anything. [ snoring ] [ loud squawking and siren blaring ] only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪
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david: a shooting at the pensacola navy base has left for dead including the gunman in a people injured. we are learning more about the identity of the gunman. he is confirmed to have been a saudi national and a member of the saudi air force and pensacola for training program. president trump commented, polluting a phone call with the king of saudi arabia. >> the king said that the saudi people are greatly angered of
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the actions of the shooter in this person in no way shape or form represents the feelings of the saudi people who love the american people so much. david: the fbi leading the investigation but has not revealed new details of the time of this report. let's bring in steve rogers former lieutenant commander in the u.s. navy with naval intelligence and senior intelligence officer for the task force. i hate to say it, but i remember the same sympathy coming from the world family right after 9/11 that did not make up for the fact that they were pai peoe in the royal family that were involved in the planning of 9/11. isn't it time to change her policy the way we do with saudi nationals particularly those that go toward navy and military base. >> we have to find out the motive, we do not know the motive and don't know if this was a person deranged at the time that this happened but
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there was questions, is it a terrorist act, was this person radicalized here were prior to come here did this person have certain terrorist connections. based on what a prudent scene he's only been here a short period of time i think it was impossible for him to be radicalized here. meaning that it had tobin plan before he came here based on the information in the intelligence that is being sent out. >> some listen to the president and feel he gives the saudi's the past when this happens. and he accepted the explanation for what happened there. how should he be handling the. >> i think is handling it well and be imprudent because we still don't have the facts, a lot of people are upset because they heard saudi arabia and we know the 9/11 hijackers are saudi arabia but the president has to be very careful and acting appropriately at this time because he does not have all the intelligence and information that would lead him to take another course.
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>> the vetting has got to be strong because something like this that occurs changing the playing field as far as how strongly going forward. >> good point. when i was in the navy the vetting was very stringent top-secret clearances with where your station, their pilots and dealing with something very critical to their defense. i cannot begin to tell you what fell through the crooks it. i know is very tough to vent but when you're dealing with foreign nationals you don't know if somebody waved him by work there certain policies to make sure that these people pass but the has to be looked at. >> gary smith here, i'm following on the question about the vetting. he was here on an international training exercise, how many of these go one and is it possible for good relations to vet all of
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these foreigners coming over here for the training exercises. >> a real-life example when i was in the air force before i was a navy in the 70s i was stationed at geneva air force base i remember asking someone how do they do it and i was told they all pass because if they don't those who don't will pay a heavy price and iran. i was hope that was not the truth but i hope the policies have changed if that was a case. >> i think before we came on david hit this the saudi air force, those boot two things tor bring back the worst day in the history over country. when we hear that, what do you say to us so we don't get a vile feeling again. >> i understand but i would say to be very prudent and very careful and let's get the facts and unfortunately a lot of rumors and inappropriate conclusions without facts can
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cause more problems than what were dealing with. people need to calm down and get the facts. david: at the same time we cannot forget the fact that the perpetrator of 9/11 were here for flight training in the use that to command planes into civilian buildings which kill thousands of people, i imagine what this character could have done if he got a plane and he was at a naval air base and had access to planes and being trained to fly these planes. it probably would've been limited to an area but he could've killed hundreds of people not just three or four. >> yes he could do. if it comes out there is a terrorist connected to this individual we have a lot of soul-searching to do and a lot of work to do vetting individuals who come here. >> how do we find that out? >> the fbi does a great job and ensure the cia and other international law enforcement agencies as well as the saudis involved, we will find out.
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the fbi does a good job. >> what do you think the officers at the base are saying to the soldiers surrounded. >> i am sure they are telling them if you see something or hear something say something. it has been this way in law enforcement involving these incidents, how does a guy have a weapon on the base, what about his colleagues, where we he was staying, i believe someone else knew something about this individual, he was not the only one who knew he had a gun. david: thank you very much and thank you for your service. the white house hosting a small business roundtable with the strength of the economy and the acting omb director was there and he's here to tell us all about it coming up next. >> a middle-class boom led by blue-collar jobs and that's one thing that is so great the blue-collar workers over country really benefiting tremendously from what we've done.
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president has done 50 billion for the cost of regulatory entities. if you look at the top regulations over the next few years it will have an impact of $220 billion of the economy at large. it's a huge impact in the president was able to hear about it from businesses today. >> a lot of small business owners are middle-class americans, when you look at the proposals from the candidates, democratic candidates on taxes whether healthcare, at the end of the day even though they say they will tax the rich and go after the rich and the rich needs to pay more, some of those costs will fall on the middle class americans some of the people that are starting these businesses, what does the white house have to say to those people about those policies and when everybody is weighing everything and balancing everything, the important things they need to think about. >> we know the othe site has a y
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agenda and it will crush small businesses in many operate as individuals and often times it looks like they have more income than they have. in this president will focus on policies and the economic growth that lead to prosperity and opportunity for families and small businesses he's had the tax cut in the deregulatory initiative and ambitious energy policy these are designed to have more growth, more opportunity so companies continue to build businesses. >> , i love all those policies but i'm your friendly neighborhood deficit hog and i'm trying to find out at what point are we going to put a hold on continuing to raise spending. i know we had to do something on the fence from the last few years but deficit should be coming down when you have a strong economy not going up.
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so you're from the office of management and budget, anything on the horizon. >> i love where your head is at and sodas as president. people don't give him credit, he has had or spending production proposed than any president budget in history. congress has not come along and helped us enact those cuts with the president will not stop spending reduction and doing everything he can too have responsible the of this country. but we will not wait on congress to go forward with the regulation and do the things that we can as an ministration without congress. >> robert wolf, nice to see you. i think we saw each other last month. there is no question that the business likes to regulation. i argue with you on how democrats treat the middle class but we had that before. my question to you, what do you see in 2020 the big d regulation items that you want to take on.
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>> an example would be infrastructure, pipelines and say why does it take foreign half years to get the environmental studies to go through the process. the type of thing we look at is how do we shorten that so we can get pipelines built and get people back to work on those jobs and get the economy moving forward and we want to continue to get the café rules done so families can have cheaper, better, safer to cars when they drive and when they go to the auto auto dealer to buy new cars. i have three girls, my wife and my two girls and when they are on the road i want them in a tank, i want them to have the safest car possible and the ability that saving for the environment. that is what we will finalize this year, those are two examples of our agenda for the coming year.
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>> gary smith here, i appreciate the look into the future, more from an education standpoint for myself, i hear the broad numbers about how much regulation the president has cut and how much a positive impact. what are the specific regulations that have been cut now that small businesses have most benefited. >> a good example is a war on energy from the last ministration. the last president when he ran for office said i want electricity raised to necessarily skyrocket. this president said we are not going to do that, were gonna go and overturn the last president clean power role. we have a new rule in place that federalize us and puts it back in the localities and every small business has energy need in every business has electricity rates and a lot of things going done at the department of labor to predict
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franchises. in their ability to organize themselves or previously we've done in association health plan to make it easier for groups of employers to come together to purchase health insurance for their employees and attract new workers based on today's job numbers which is a huge need to provide healthcare for their employees. david: acting director of the will be, congratulations on today's numbers. they are extraordinary. thank you. former vice president joe biden under fire for a fight he had with the voter and iowa. did he go too far? one msnbc host slamming a democrat talking voice. we will play the pre-coming up next. ♪ ♪
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vote. >> joe biden fighting charges of conflict of interest from an 83-year-old voter in iowa, former vice president coming in fourth in the real clear politics average in iowa, was this a big mistake, did he come on too strong? >> absolutely not. i know this is the media outlet of political correctness. [laughter] but the idea that were debating whether he came on too strong. no it was great and people loved it. the democrats loved it. as the no malarkey bus tour. it was a great day and a great week for the vice president he has shown incredible strength in the party likes to see it. >> he's not worried about the malarkey. >> my biggest complaint about joe biden, i thought he has not had the word and showed in as long as he does not do this every time, it's in good stead. i think it's meaningful. >> i don't know what robert is saying a great week for joe biden, he is basically a walter
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mondale of 2019. he does not move the needle an inch and why i think it was bad, we expect this from donald trump, but joe biden is supposed to be the senior guy and so presidential and a level head, he is now playing in trump's court, he will not fare very well even if he gets the nomination which i doubt he wi will. >> it's an 83-year-old in iowa is now worried about biden's quid pro quo in ukraine, hasn't that become a drag in his campaign? >> i think it has and he needs every vote he can get. he's in fourth place. at the same time, just because president trump asked a certain way doesn't mean some of these candidates have to act in a way that is not authentic to them. they have to have an authentic voice, i see joe biden and i
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don't see him as a tough guy. >> i've known him for over 20 years, when you say you know him, that's not really true, this is who he is, he sticks up for his family and who he is, i think the guy crossed the line it was his event. >> i thought he showed passion, there is nothing wrong i thought it was organic, i don't think it was made up. david: you don't think he looked defensive and arguing the point of quid pro quo. >> you can say that but one of the biggest issues, all he heard the last three weeks, joe biden does not have it. >> it was his best 24 hours of fundraising. someone liked it. >> i was going to say, i never said i knew him, i'd have trouble taking him out of alignment.
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>> he is supposed to be presidential and have all this wisdom, he did not look at it, he looked like a street brawler, we already have a street brawler in the white house. >> msnbc lauren o'donnell slamming pete buttigieg saying the 2020 canada does not know what he is talking about or he's deliberately lying when it comes to the debt and the deficit. >> my party is not known for worried about the deficits and debt to much but it's time to get into the business because what we've seen washington is the party that talked a lot about the deficit when they were trained to kill off programs, when it came time for the corporate tax cut turns out they don't care. there was a trillion dollar deficit now. and created under a republican administration which means of my party does not get interested in deficits and debt nobody will. in the middle of that he attributed just the current trillion dollar deficit to the republicans but twice he criticized democrats about the
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deficit saying democrats are not known for worried about deficits but if my party does not start getting interested in deficits, both of those lines are lies. they are republican lies. >> your response? >> not surprising that larry o'donnell would go after mayor pete because it's an opinion show that's pretty popular. and pete runs in the moderate lane. and if you watch him he will have -- he's more of the left center. and i think larry likes to talk about when he was in the years and they were deficit neutral and balanced budget. i think we should all be worried about where the deficit is,
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every president likes a growing deficit. >> i'm so happy everybody's talking about deficits. they share the first $500 billion of tax dollars is going to interest on the debt they've created. that could be going on roads and bridges and elderly and children, no, interest, something to be done. mr. o'donnell, i have to disagree with him. david: when you have job numbers like we have right now and record amount of tax revenue coming in, people don't tend to worry about it that much do they? >> you are exactly right, i had two takeaways from this, the first since o'donnell is attacking mayor pete, you know mayor pete is edging toward front runner status. the second thing, on the opposite side if pete were going to run on the deficit platform, that's a big loser. no candidate has ever said i'm going to focus on cutting the deficit which eventually means cutting entitlements. it's not a winning way to go. >> i think right now we talked
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debt deficit but the country is not talking about the countries talking about wages and growth and the jobs. i would agree with larry this is a not a winning argument for any candidate to talk about. >> growth should be curing this but it is not because the spending keeps going like this and never ends. >> there is a limit and when elizabeth warren came out with her 53 billion-dollar health plan which she admits would lead to layoffs of 2 million people, that's when voters cried foul and she's trying to pull that back to try to find a settling. >> when it comes to debt and spending, people just assume anybody taken the country forward will be spending a certain amount, when the program gets too aggressive like in the case with warren it becomes a problem. if you look at the economy and you think -- president trump is thinking you have to spend money to make money. david: breaking news.
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a fox business alert, the jury in the elon musk defamation trial has reached a verdict. i think we have elon musk walking out of the courtroom. robert gray is available for the very latest on all of this. do you see him? >> i'm looking to see if he is coming out. we are waiting for elon musk to come down, he's on his way out and he might take an alternative exit. i'm standing off chemo so we could get him if he comes out this interest. this is the main interest to the building. we are not seen any of his team coming this moment. i see a few folks coming out but if you did not read the verdict on the way and they found in elon musk's favor. so elon musk found not guilty with a high rescue case.
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that he had tweeted out. he in fact told her producer down to the elevator that my humidity has been restored and that's all he would state that he got into the elevator and were waiting to see if you will. david: as we await, just for the viewers who do not know was his defense or his point based on the first amendment that you can say what you want according to the first amendment, did he lean on not to win his point? reporter: it really was not, his defense attorney for a minute as insults between two people that were very publicly made, this is groundbreaking in a lot of ways there have not been high-profile pieces like this where you have a public person and someone as a private person. the judge ruled he was a private person so were waiting to see whether twitter will be held to the same standards as a newspaper or magazine as these
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accusations and insults were published. we are waiting to see that, basically in his closing arguments the attorney for elon musk saying we should stop monetizing the kids, he led the rescue team and he should stop monetizing lawsuits, basically framing up and he was not damaged due to the $190 million that his attorneys were seeking from elon musk saying it did not rise to the standard and one of the missing element to this was his girlfriend, she did not testify they did have some testimony from his or strain wife in the uk. david: a victory for elon musk. good for him, we have not seen him come out yet but it was a good day for him. thank you very much for details.
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david: every troubling safety report after uber receives 6000 sexual assault reports in 2017 and 2018 involving u.s. drivers and passengers. among were 464 reports of rape. it also noted 19 deaths caused by physical assault during those two years. they say 99.9% of uber trips occur without any safety related issues at all, but would you want to use, you or your spouse want to use the service again after hearing about this? >> no, i did not know about this, there's so many other reasons i don't want to use it because of declines in terms of customer service that uber is using, pickups are longer,
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surcharge longer, the safety risk you add to this, this is why uber is down from the ipo price, it has so much to figure out in terms of business and profitability it's a mess. >> i would disagree, my daughter just took uber yesterday, he go back to the statistical figure, the audit of any kind of sexual assault is .0001. it is a big number and it looks big but over 2 billion rights, the interesting thing i found i went into the archives, back in 2016 before cooper became over, one of the headlines was the rise of sexual assault by taxi. we don't report that number because there is no one taxi company out there, i venture to say and looking at the numbers, the odds are in a sexual assault in a taxi are just as high if not higher.
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>> i don't have those numbers, we have to say taxi have a lot more identifiers, you can identify the actual number that the cabdriver has. but having said that we have to leave it at that. usmc leaving in the balance as they hold up negotiations with new request. how will everything play out, are the democrats playing a game trying to load it up with poison pills. we will ask congressman ron. he is with us next.
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to to invade mexico. let's bring in wrong, of kansas, which has a lot of farms and a lot of interest in this thing passing. some people think what democrats are trying to do is loaded up with poison pills to kill it so trump cannot credit his demonstration for passing it. >> it is taking a long time, it's been taken over a year and in the last few weeks he's been talking about how do we add additional labor provisions in trying to convince them to do additional things. it's not appropriate to think we can have inspectors any more than we would want to grab inspectors here. we need to make sure we focus on that, it's such a good deal to get the usmc doug, it's important for us, the international trade commission 176,000 new jobs on the low end. david: i have to pressure, or democrats trying to kill it by loading it up with poison pills.
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>> they are at least dragging their feet if not tried to kill it. >> it took 15 months to get the deal done and it was signed on november 30, 2018 and now december of 2019, what are the governments of canada and mexico thinking of the government and the united states continuing to walk on the treadmill. >> they really want to, we had an opportunity and month ago to sit down and talk with the trade route from canada and the trade route from mexico, they want this deal is good for all three countries, it helps economically for all of us and they really want to get this done and for us to drag our feet it's a poor reflection of the united states. >> the democrat position can be argued as extreme, other confessions that could be made to give them an inch instead of a mile to push the deal through. >> one thing we need to recognize, there is a new president in mexico he has been there a year and you could
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classify as a centerleft person and he recognizes that nafta when it was created to have loopholes that wages did not increase the way we expected them to. he had gone on record to say he does not want his citizens to be subject below minimum wage, he is pushing for that as well. >> just to be clear, i am supportive of usmca, i've supportive tp atp hur. i sat on both sides of the aisle, i was told there are three or four things from both sides that people are not happy with, from the labor to environmental, and with respect to the regulation. do you think as is, both sides
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the republican side happy? >> if it's brought to the floor i am sure it will pass, it will have 75 to 100 democrats as well of the majority of the republicans. a part of it is, when we talk about on the ways and means committee we talk about how important it is to the world and more people brought out of poverty and increasing their income because of free and fair trade. david: it was great to see you. thank you so much for being here. did you wake up in a bad mood? how about every single morning when you wake up, the results of a new survey coming up. >> thank you so much. most people think of verizon as a reliable phone company. but to businesses, we're a reliable partner. we keep companies ready for what's next. (man) we weave security into their business. (second man) virtualize their operations. (woman) and build ai customer experiences. (second woman) we also keep them ready for the next big opportunity. like 5g. almost all of the fortune 500 partner with us.
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meaning the only experience 65 good mornings. i want to start with gary, gary is down there in florida where the sun is always shining, and never snows, it gets cold and always beautiful, how could you ever wake up grumpy? >> i hardly ever wake up grumpy. , most people because they don't get enough sleep. i get enough sleep, i go to sleep at nine religiously and get up at 5:00 a.m. and i have an app that monitors my sleep to make sure i have good sleep hygiene. >> i never have a bad day, i have one motto, treat every day like it matters and like it counts. simple as that and that's what i taught my children. >> i wake up happy, definitely not grumpy, sometimes confused when it's dark, i don't know if it's night or day but i wake up grateful and blessed.
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>> starting the dam fox and friends and "bulls & bears", how can i be grumpy. >> i wake up noam until he looked into my computer and get my motor working and get coffee for my wife. that does it for "bulls & bears". have a nice night. >> more credibility problems for the democrats the rhetoric and the contradiction ramping up in more support for impeachment vegans, nancy pelosi does not hate president trump while seeking to destroy him. and nancy pelosi has a cnn town hall after announcing impeachment but shut down any questions about impeachment. more in that and democrats are racing to impeachment with legal probes in the media say is the shortest process in his
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