with maria on foxbusiness. i hope you'll start your day with me every weekday. that will do it for us for today, thank you so much for joining us from all of us here at wall street, we all wish you and your family a beautiful christmit's a huge wel more than 150 million people expected to travel 50 miles or more. thank you for joining us. "bulls & bears" is next. >> what a way to end the week, a record day on wall street with averages closing a brand-new heights, s&p 500 with the fourth straight week of gain. >> good evening i am david asman, this is "bulls & bears" thank you for joining us. joining me adam bleszinski, jackie dealing julissa and gary b smith. good to see you, u.s. consumers shrugging off impeachment with confidence surging to a seven-month high according to the survey, they are feeling very good about current economic conditions and expect things to keep taking even higher. 2020 front runner joe biden is pouring cold water on president trump's economic accomplishment.

>> middle class is getting killed, the middle class is getting crushed, the working-class has no way up as a consequence. the idea that we are growing, we are not growing, the wealthy are growing, ordinary people are not growing, they are not happy with where they are and that's why we mutts enter must change the presidency now. >> how can biden and his fellow democrats make the case that the economy is terrible when indicators and confidence are pointing up. >> a tough case to make, they need to make it because president trump has that going for him. he says the economy, look at the stock market, some people will say that's not in a measure of the economy but 10000 points and they took over in august. people's 401ks are booming. that does impact the middle class. let's look at other factors, unappointed 50 year low, president obama brought it from 10% down to 4.7% and some say he

jumped on the train, that's the hardest little part, the incremental part to do. third thing how about gdp, and 2016 we looked at 2%, two-point to percent, 1.9%, right in line with what the president has done but he's fighting a massive trade war which hopefully next year will see gdp from that. first quarter was at 3%. economy is doing well and a lot of people are benefiting, is not a scenario where everybody is going to feel it but a lot of people do, more than 50% say they feel better now than they did in 2016. >> is he referring to the middle class in china, they're not doing so well as trump cayman. >> it's true. >> what is he supposed to say, he will not say it's the best time since the late '90s, but let's change it. david: did he make the case? >> some point are beyond the scope of what he can do and he's right. the growth rate are different between income, the medium income is not growing as fast at

the top fifth or the second fifth, that's a multi-decade phenomenon. this president has done a whole slew of things, you would almost think is democrat policies, engineer tax cut, making this with the nafta thing going to make more jobs, those are middle-class perks, there is only so much you can squeeze out of the train because they lowered tax rates for the middle class at single digits, it's a reality there are jobs abroad and will make less money, fearing competition will not have 1950s era again, it's not possible they've done all they can do. >> i would say first of all, it's 11 months from the election, biden has to hope from an electoral perspective if he's a nominee that something changes and things get worse between now and then. that's possible. whether or not it's likely, we can debate as much as we'd like,

secondly, i happen to think the democratic nominee will not be in a position to make an economic argument on trump in november of next year, the argument will have to be another things like this is not the man you want as your president for a whole variety of reasons. as you want to point out the last election the economy was doing very well which should have benefited the party in power. david: the midterm election, not the presidential election. >> i'm talking about the presidential election the obama presided over seven years of growth, just based on the one fact that should have benefited but it was the weakest recovery. >> in fact they lost, but i don't think that was the deciding factor. that's what i'm arguing. >> there is only one real important factor for the middle class, that is the household income and if you think that the middle class is suffering per joe biden then he had to be

absolutely apoplectic under years and years of obama. median household income from the time obama took office rose exactly $1000. under trump, it has risen $4000. it is now at $65000. you can make the argument all you want that the middle class is suffering under trump but in comparison to how they were doing under obama, they're doing four times as better. median household income is the measurement for the middle class. median right there is middle-class. add on to the point that jackie made so very well and add in the fact that housing prices have recovered in many areas, they have improved, there is now more job offerings than there are jobs, i just don't see the fac

facts. >> i have a question, gary, for everybody, if you had to generalize, that's what were doing were making political generalization. do you think the average person at a trump rally is middle-class by their definition or by an economist definition? i'm just curious. >> you have a spitball in an answer to that because it's impossible to tell but it appears that way. i want to focus on one sector of the economy which is the manufacturing sector which president obama told us, most of those jobs were not coming back. remember when he talking about many fracturing, even though recently it has slippage, there have been 500,000 jobs in manufacturing, the whole sector of the economy and all the jobs front, joe biden was asked whether or not he's willing to sacrifice hundreds of thousands of jobs in the oil and gas

industry, the industry he revived to transition to a greater economy. listen to his answer. >> the answer is yes, because the opportunity for those workers will transition to high-paying jobs. david: jackie, according to the wall street journal, oil and gas jobs are very high-paying jobs, can he really promise better paying green ones? >> he can't. i look to alternative energy, is not viable with oil prices where they are because we found so much. if you start to transition these people out, they will not have jobs and it will be a serious problem. president trump rolled back the regulation to get the industry revived. the reason were the top oil producer in the world right now that's a national security issue. there's a lot of things to look at but you cannot take the jobs away. >> i don't like the line in question, they're labor-intensive because not economically valuable, you can

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repealing obamacare taxes, yet the repeal of the military widow tax in a very large 3.1% federal pay raise, we have not seen one like that for federal workers in the past ten years or so. you have a lot of critics, gary being one of them he says ballooning deficit level that is shy of $1 trillion in 2019, look at the number 272. it was 665 billion, quite an increase over the last two years or so. the president did say he was going to sign the national defense authorization act which is essentially the defense bill worth $738 billion in what we see in the bill is paid family leave for federal workers, military workers as well, the creation of the space force and funding for the border wall. the border wall he's getting 1.4 trillion which is a lot less than he wanted but this time last year, where the president spent christmas at the white

house, he did not go to florida because he did not want to sign the spending bill because it did not include border wall funding. this time around, i think it will be different, he's headed off to join base andrews and ford afterwards. david: thank you very much. we love our military, with the depth of our heart. but to the cost of all this outweigh the benefits? >> it does not. in fact, let me channel my gary here, this whole bill is nauseating to be honest. we have now a deficit of $23 trillion, we have a defense budget that is bigger than the next ten countries combined. my gosh, i hope if there's world war iii we can one versus ten we should be just about equal. we all raise the flag on the military, first of all the military, my daughter out of college applied to be in the

military, wanted to enlist and it's hard to get in. you know why, because the benefits are pretty darn good in the military. i won't say we have a bloated military but it is huge, bigger than the next ten countries, even apart from that. we have a deficit and i say, if you give a dollar to the government, you get back so much benefits, study after study has shown you give a dollar to the government, you get less back, less than a dollar in benefits to the economy. it is ridiculous. but it's like sugar to a baby, you handed out to the people and people do not care, politicians get reelected it's ridiculous. >> i know it is not particularly fun for anybody when i agree with gary thought but, let me ay what he sang, it's a good example of the contradictory nature to the extent to what he

leads, on the one and he's an isolationist we should be getting out of europe, we should be getting out of asia, we should be getting out of south korea, all places where were overcommitted but he wants to spend more on the military, why, because it's good for boats. of course the book border thing is not a military issue, it's a different issue. >> let's be clear what happened during the obama administration, we saw a shrinking of defense budget that a lot of people thought was particularly dangerous when you think of the threats coming from an expansive china, china is expanding all over the world like no other otr government. that is a pretty goo big threat. >> i will not give you my opinion on where i think expending is more a porn whether military or other initiatives, the either side will spend, the deficit will not magically

sinking. what i find interesting is turns of contradiction is bernie sanders op-ed on this issue on the washington post on monday. bernie said i find out ironic what other congress proposed legislation that many unmet needs of workers, the elderly, children, six poor, how will we pay for, we hear that question without a huge increase in military spending for billionaires et cetera. bernie, how are you going to pay for medicare for all, is it more important to spend on that then this? who makes those decisions. >> that is what he saying. by the way we should mention the spending since 2017 is 40% greater and that's an error of historically low inflation. you're actually right were spending a lot more than we used to. we have to move on, meanwhile, mission incomplete, the launch of boeing star liner not going as planned, we have details coming up.

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a critical anomaly, the star liner k-uppercase-letter computer for an unknown reason falsely believed that the star liner was further along and in higher orbit than it was. it cut out meaning it did not end up burning as long as it should have and now it is not going to be high enough to run debut with the space station. >> a lot of things went right, i want to be clear, a lot of things went right and this is why we test, because were in orbit and elevating our orbit we will get a lot more data and a lot more information in the coming days. this is all very positive. >> right now the capsule is in great shape, no damage done, it's still orbiting safely 240 miles up and it is now going to land sunday at white sands new mexico. what does this mean for boeing second test flight of the starliner? that's scheduled for early next year sometime with two astronauts on board, dude to what happened today it is still

too soon to say. >> thank you very much. shares of boeing were lower today. i'm just wondering, you heard the positive spin from boeing, is this just window dressing another boeing disaster that could hurt the company? >> sure i would call their spin on this the cup half full to say the least. two organizations that need positive news boeing and nasa which is had a rough go for a decade or so. i would not call this -- to the credit it's not a disaster, a disaster would've been blowing up in those being human beings onboard neither of which happened. but boeing is having a hard time catching up. i'm beginning to think that boeing is the closest we have right now to an american company that is too big to fail. it is in no one's interest for boeing to go away and therefore it will not go away no matter

what. >> does because they cannot go away does not mean they have to be in the rocket to the space station business for 5 billion plus dollars in taxpayer money from nasa. the russians are good at this, they have this company, they pay them $72 million a seat to buy people, astronauts, through the space station, that seems like a good arrangement, they have not had a death since i been alive. >> jonas collusion with russia here? >> why do we have to do this, the company is barely making planes, i see them taking this over the rate and i would not touch them as an investor. >> boeing has had a rough year as an investor standpoint with the crashes and not being able to execute on the 737 max front. but if you look at the five years chart, it looks like a little blimp, has the opportunity to turn around or turn into a bigger problem. it's kind of like netflix is struggling right now but they may not be out of the game.

we will have to watch as it develops, obviously a story like this is another blackeye it does not look great in terms of execution. david: nancy pelosi delaying delivery of the articles of impeachment to the senate, why one harvard professor claims until she does, the president can say he has not actually been impeached at all. congressman responding to all of this and more

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senate majority leader mitch mcconnell slamming nancy pelosi and other house democrats for delaying the delivery of articles of impeachment. >> here's where we are mr. president, we have a curious situation following house democrats rushed impeachment, following weeks of pronouncement about the urgency of the situation. urgent situation. but prosecutors appear to develop cold feet. david: now in a strange twist of fate harvard law professor, witness for the democrats during impeachment inquiry is suggesting the president has not yet been impeached at all. telling bloomberg, if the house does not communicate impeachment to the senate, it has not actually a impeached the president print truck could the general may say he was not truly impeached at all. remember this is from 70 with

the democrats. house judiciary committee member ben klein, has the president been impeached? >> it's a great question and i read the editorial and just when you think it cannot get any stranger, nancy pelosi through the moderates and trump districts as moderate democrats she threw them under the bus and dragging them down the street. there along for the ride whether they like it or not when she said she wants to play this out for political purpose it shows you how weak their cases and it's been abused for political purpose. david: i want to pressure, do you think the president has been impeached or will that not happen until the senate picks up the trial? >> i think when you have a bill and it is past, it has to be conveyed to the senate for its process in the house to be complete. under that scenario, the articles of impeachment do need

to be communicated to the senate for the house action to be completed in the senate action to begin. i would argue it is incomplete at this point. >> some would argue in the court of public opinion the president has been impeached by the house, nobody expected the senate to remove him. so nancy pelosi assault tactic would be an effort not to give the senate to have an opportunity to have a trial which would be unfair that she said. and it would detract from the process in the furnace of it all but at the end of the day it's about having the last word. >> right, in the house, the speaker has the majority rule and she dictates what's going to happen. here she is trained to dictate to the senate what should happen or what she believes should happen and she is realizing that her commands stop where the house in an mitch mcconnell is not going to have any of that. he is going to run the show his

way and she is going to come under enormous pressure from her moderates and trump districts to hurry up the process because they want to get onto the business of reelection. >> thank you for being on the show. just a couple of questions. you mentioned that the house has to present the articles of impeachment to the senate. i understand that, my first question, is there any timeline or timeframe that this has to be done, too, once it is done the senate can run the trial anyway that they deem fit, is that correct? >> that is correct. the senate operates under its own rules, they're sticklers for the rules and they are going to try to opt operate underpass procedures for the rules for

impeachment of build clinton. that's what makes mcconnell impose. schumer is trying to blow those apart to help those in the democrat favor and mcconnell is not having any of that. it's likely schumer will come back to the table and they will have to agree to the clinton rules to proceed. they can change them anytime that they want. if a put couple of republicans decide they want to join the democrat senators and change the rules, they can. hopefully we can get the process over with and get onto the business of the people. this is becoming a charade and a sideshow distraction. >> i just don't understand where they're going, are you guys worried there is a smoking gun there withholding where there setting you up and you say one thing and they say look at what we have here. it seems if you send it over with a kangaroo court in the senate. are you worried at all? >> no, we are not worried at

all. the evidence did not show there was no evidence of high crimes or misdemeanor that were committed or presented to the judiciary committee, were optimistic once the senate gets the case that the president will be exonerated and we can get on with the business of the people. nancy pelosi had to hurry this along before christmas not because of iowa caucuses or anything like that, it's because her moderates were still in their primary filing periods. if they did not vote for impeachment, they would've got the primary opponent and that is why she rushed it because they knew they had to vote yes or they would have a democrat running against him in the primary come january. david: we got a tweet from the president, this happens a lot during the course of our program. i want to read and get your impression. nancy pelosi is looking for a quid pro quo with the senate. why are we not impeaching her? >> i think she is looking for

some kind of deal with the senate and she is realizing that she cannot get. her power stops where the house and an mitch mcconnell is going to respectfully make sure that he does it his way and not let nancy push him around. david: we have to leave it at that. good to see you. thank you for being here. mayor pete is on defense at wine caves at last nights debate. i did not know these things existed. why he tried to score points for being the least successful person on

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david: it continues with 2020 democrats taking shot at each other over donors. elizabeth warren making a class warfare attack against mayor pete buttigieg. >> so the mayor just recently had a fundraiser that withheld

in a wine cave full of crystals and serve $900 a bottle wine. billionaires and wine caves should not pick the next president of the united states. >> i'm literally the only person on the stage who is not a millionaire or a billionaire. [applause] this is important, this is the problem with issuing purity test yourself cannot pass. david: not a bad comeback if i do say so. are the class warfare attacks for millionaire politicians wearing a little thin? >> it's a very good comeback and for the general election it is completely irrelevant when no matter who is running against president trump who has made himself the hero of the workingmen when he is anything but, this will be irrelevant come november. it is relevant in the democratic primary is a portion of the electorate that cares about this sort of thing.

i think it is complete nonsense because what matters more is the policies and the quality of their idea. >> i agree with adam. this is the part of the competition while the beat each other up over silly things into will pair off and fly away into the sunset as a happy team with the president. it is silly at the end of the day. elizabeth warren is a hypocrite for saying that. >> i don't think it's silly, even if it was -- the policies go with this success to bad things. it represents the dangerous flaws, it's very sad that mike wilber cannot be on the stage because he does not raise money from the little people and does not represent the working class like all these other wealthy successful people to pretender by castro, i think it's a losing message and ultimately it leads to policies that are reversed to what they should be.

>> it's a losing message if the right does not clarify. what have millionaires and billionaires given us other than just their big yachts, they have given us the steel industry, the oil industry, the automotive industry, the online shopping industry, the overnight package industry, basically all the great industries of the u.s. has built on. they were made by daddy were box walking around the monopoly board. these rich people are being vilified. why do we vilified people that got lucky and are good-looking. why don't we say tom cruise you don't deserve to be in the next mission impossible. >> or you i don't like you because you're so handsome and you should be offended. >> we don't do that because this apparently plays -- most people

are comfortable with tom cruise but not comfortable for whatever reason with some rich people out there that think all they do is sit back and smoke big cigarettes. >> how many people have been hired by millionaire politicians with their own money, then no money spending our money to hire a staff and so forth but who creates the jobs, the people in the private sector. by the way, adam lashinsky happy birthday. good to see you. thank you very much for being here on your birthday. massive data breach affecting millions of users of two major tech giants. your information might have ended up on the dark web. can you imagine that, the cyber guy is here to tell us what to do about that. do about that. he is imagine traveling hassle-free with your golf clubs. now you can, with shipsticks.com! no more lugging your clubs through the airport or risk having your clubs lost or damaged by the airlines. sending your own clubs ahead

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david: a massive data breach to tell you about, information including ids and phone numbers from 300 million facebook users is now service on the dark web according to cybersecurity firm. this is another security research suggesting more than 1500 e-mail addresses and passwords associated with ring, the doorbell company owned by amazon have also been compromised. it's time to bring in the cyber guy, is there any way to use these products which a lot of people rely on, without presenting yourself with the big security risk? >> security risk will be there matter what but we want the convenience of the items. where is the balance, the balance is two factor authentication or two factor security meaning you have your really strong password and that is unique to whatever the

devices and you also turn on the two factor thing that is inside the settings of most of this including ring, it injures herself on or e-mails you to make sure that is you signing on and you say yes that is me. a hacker will have a real tough time unless they have physical access to your phone or e-mail to do the same thing. >> this is adam lashinsky. i know about two factor authentication, i understand it but even i don't do it very often. which leads me too ask, first of all, what is normal behavior for normal consumers. i'm assuming most of the people don't so then what? >> we are all used to being extremely lazy with the technology. we get it, this is amazing and let's start using it but this stuff wakes us up in the morning where we hear the stories in the more that we hear about victims from the stories meaning they

get a hold of our e-mail and our address, they then start triangulating that with other data and then have access to other aspects of our lives that can absolutely freak you out in terms of the security of your family. that's the moment we wake up but we will start to see beginning next year as a real wake-up call to that, what i would really like to see is platforms that allow for this such as to use ring, i need to use the ring app, that has to sit on apple or google, and i want to see those stores start to police this a lot better. and say you will not let your app work unless people are doing the right thing so people don't come barging down the door or they don't steal their car or don't empty their bank account. >> too that point, ring, i spoke

to them and they denied a data breach at all. they did not say unsecured data but they blamed on the third party. >> it is possible, i'm still researching this because i agree i have no evidence of the fact that ring system in itself were hacked. but what we do know, we all have used completely guessable passwords and hackers now use much more sophisticated password guessing software so they use that and they can set out it and try and try and get in. >> they always blame us for not making, keita passwords but there hacking the password so what does it matter. they have the password and it's not encrypted. >> a lot harder the more difficult you make the password. >> how did you get so smart. >> how to get out of this hole where consumers will go to the camera with the least security because it's easier to use. >> were out of regulation point,

i think were at a consumer demand and public awareness that says apple are you keeping these when i download an app from you and point the finger at them and same with google. >> at first of all, you need to ignore what adam lashinsky asked, he is still using floppy disks. number two, do you see any signs of people like me saying, it is not even worth using facebook and applications, i don't need it, you say people need and want it, i'm seeing backlash movement. are you seeing any of that? >> i hear people say it that i don't see them doing it. people will complain about it and they may use it less, i have certainly toned down my use of facebook, not because i think are concerned about my security or complications of logging on,

but more that i've grown exhausted of the process. >> i've never bought anything through facebook through one of the ads on facebook. i did on instagram and guess what, they did get me. >> i have not either and i'm about to start. the reason why very good friend of mine who sits on the board at the natural rea retail federatin has been in retail for years as the smart executive and has good style, was wearing a spectacular shirt recently and i said where did you get that, that's amazing. on facebook ad, that's where i buy all my stuff. david: great to see you. thank you for being here. worried that politics will ruin your holiday celebration with friends and family, we have tips you need to survive this holiday season coming up. ♪

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on your brain not your emotions. once your emotions get the best you have lost. number two, understand your beliefs are your beliefs and not everybody else will agree. that is okay. number three, you're an adult. don't be afraid to express your opinion. you can do that and you can handle that and negotiate and converse with others. you are in control of you. your emotions, your brain, remember that. >> i read an article about an alexa but if you say alexa change the subject people throw something out for the family to talk about. but bringing this back to technology and the use of technology from the communication, your thoughts about holiday in general and how people are communicating and dealing with the sink. >> it's a lot what i write about. communication is a lost art because most people can mitigate with her phone and screen. but that's a whole another topic, the most important thing to remember when you're with your family the kids playing xbox and the other room and

somebody looking at the phone on social media, holidays mean family, converse and sit around the table and do your best to get along. >> why can't you fight with your family, if you put the fight off it'll be your coworkers later. this is a long trend. >> i think we act like this is a new thing, but the donkey symbol for the democrats because they call andrew jackson a jack ass. there was a fonzie episode where people always thought about the spread why not fight at the holidays. >> the fighting is different because people are so and hing hinged, when people start throwing things at each other or running out the front door and 70 has to intervene, that is different that is not adulthood. >> at that you're going to say it's not a party if that does not happen. i have a party related question, this will seem nonserious but it is, i'm surprised you did not address the issue of alcohol.

>> i say positive or negative. good point. alcohol you lose your innovation, if you are dragging too much you're less likely to be in control of your emotions, that's when bad things happen when there's too much booze in the equation. david: what would you suggest. >> drink responsibly. >> my only, how does alcoholic or an overweight person resist or impulse, to keep the alcohol out of the house, the cake out of the house? i have been married for 30 years and we have had 30 plus years of family get-togethers with a heavily divided red and blue and we've never talked about politics, we talk about the miami dolphins, the washington -- maybe just by default we avoid the topics. >> i don't think so, you should talk about what you want to talk

about for we have to be adults, that's a problem too many people on social media and people losing their minds and losing friendships and family members, losing each other because they think differently than somebody else. >> you talked about i tell you in arguments, i married a latina 30 years ago and they get pretty hot as well. i'm wondering how sensitive, are we overly sensitive to people getting hot at the table and shouting at each other and calling each other idiots. sometimes those conversations and with people kissing and hugging and a great time and another drink. >> were overly stimulated because we get stuff shoved into our brains all day long from social media, news networks and so forth. liz: we like good news networks. >> in all honesty people are not

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