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is holidays is really holy days. there is something more important than a holy day, than something material. i think that is the message. very merry christmas to everybody. happy hanukkah. happy new year. we'll see you next time. >> stocks closing to new highs. closing in on record territory on china trade. the rally today. trump announcing u.s. and china will sign a deal quote, very shortly. china, promising to cut tariffs on a range of goods ahead of that deal. all of this unfolding as trump and his family prepare for the holidays in florida. the war of words between president trump and nancy pelosi and charles schumer getting rougher by the day. state resident escaping high taxes.
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worsening homeless crisis. so many folks are fleeing california, that the population growth there is at the slowest rate since 1900. key developments tonight on the battle to fund border security, from the trump administration planning a court fight to seize private land in texas for its wall, to house democrats demanding answers over the death of immigrants in u.s. custody. i'm jackie deangelis in for elizabeth macdonald tonight. "the evening edit" starts right now. ♪. jackie: a big gift for investors this holiday. china coming out and saying they're cutting back tariffs on $389 billion worth of import. that is starting january 1st. hillary vaughn in d.c. with the latest. hillary? reporter: jackie, china is chopping tariffs on frozen pork and 800 other products to kick off the new year. the pork cut on u.s. pig exports
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to china is really early christmas gift for u.s. pig farmers who capitalize on china's big pig demand. who until now have been dealing with high taxes on u.s. pork exports. china is dealing with massive swine shortage after the african swine fever has taken half of their hogs out. they're trying to boost pig imports from other places by cutting tariff. this comes days after the commerce ministry announced it would release and additional 40,000 tons of meet from the pork reserves to try to keep pork prices steady. >> president trump made it possible for long-term success for the families. by the time china's done he will have renegotiated over 50% of the united states trade agreements, giving us long-term certainty for all of our future generations of farmers. reporter: china is also cutting tariffs on other food products including frozen avocados and orange juice. also some pharmaceutical products that help with asthma,
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diabetes. this summer beijing says more cuts will be on the way. we'll lower tariffs on high-tech goods starting to summer, july 1st. china will roll out lower import taxes on 100 different information technology products, making the fifth round of cuts so far on some of the high-tech products. overall, jackie, china has seen a drop of imports to the country. over the past 11 month they have down 4.5% compared to last year. jackie? jackie: hillary vaughn, thank you so much for that report. joining me on the phone to discuss it further, american enterprise institute china expert derrick scissors. great to have you on the program tonight. >> thanks for having me. jackie: get to it. we will talk about the news this morning. when i read the headlines i thought to myself, president trump said i will not impose tariffs on december 15th. we will roll back some existing tariffs in place. this is an opportunity that china took. it seized on to reciprocate to the united states. is this where it ends or should
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we expect a back and forth here? >> this better not be where it ends. i see this as a good wil gesture by the chinese. remember the deal is not signed. they have agreed to it in principle. there needs to be a chinese translation that says the same thing as american version. the lawyers have to go over it. so there is time, perfectly normal. in that gap between agreeing in principle and finalizing it the chinese are making a goodwill gesture. this is not what counts. what counts at at the end is those actual purchases. as the clip chinese purchases are declining. cutting tariffs. that will not solve the problem. it will take a lot more work by the chinese by 2020. what they are telling us look, we're taking the first step. >> any idea in terms of what you see out there, what you have been hearing when we might have details that would be released in writing perhaps? i know the chinese are skiddish to do that but to give the american people a sense of what exactly is in here? the deal, that is expected, they
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said, structural reforms in intellectual property. tech transfer. ing a culture. financial services, currency and forex. a lot was included there. you wonder how deep will this go? >> i'm not sure we're going to see the chinese version of this in full ever. it is not required by them. we're not putting it through the congress. congress can't say i want to see the chinese version. we'll see an american version of course. they, the purchases that we're focusing on now, for good reason, they're the easy part for china. china can always buy more american products for a year or two. the structural reforms, they will not want to say they're undertaking those reforms. what that says the policies to now have been wrong. i don't know we'll get full certainty in the agreement. the certainty will be when china's behavior changes and words which don't matter all that much. jackie: the last time the china owes niece came to thible,
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backed away from signing something. a goodwill gesture today. when you view this from a thousand feet, this is the first president to stand up to the chinese and try to take some action. at least for the united states that is a good first step for us, no? >> look, i'll say, i don't even think tariffs are the right approach but the president did absolutely the right thing by holding most of the tariffs on. wall street doesn't like it. too bad. the chinese are not going to change just because you sign a piece of paper. they will change because they know the u.s. will stick to its course of the best thing about this agreement is, further tariff relief from the united states will come later, after the chinese do what they're supposed to do. so the president is following absolutely the right path. jackie: let me ask you this. if you're standing back as an investor, wonder where to park the money next year, growth in china is slowing but there is it still opportunity there, right? >> i wouldn't look at trade, saying okay, trade will make-or-break your investment opportunity in china. would i look at long-term
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opportunity, you know the government supports. they want kliner environment. destroy their inenvironment. it is aging country. they want to improve health care for the elderly. for better or worse, more worse, they are collecting a lot of data on chinese consumers. i wouldn't play the trade deal very much unless you're a very much a short term investor. long term there will be growth areas in china even if their economy struggles. jackie: what does phase two look like. they're excited about phase one and looking for 2020 and what the next steps are? >> i'm very suspicious of phase two. in my own opinion plenty of people within the trump administration and the white house are. i think the chinese want to see who will win the election. not just who is the president, but who is the united states trade representative. who is the secretary of the treasury. who fills all the positions in a second term for president trump or in democratic administration? i don't think phase two will be
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serious until 2021. jackie: derek, great to talk to you. thank you so much. we'll talk to you soon. boeing shares closing out the day solidly in the green after the company ousted ceo dennis muilenburg. grady trimble in chicago with a details on that. a big day. reporter: the boeing stock performed well under the former ceo dennis muilenburg but his handling of the 737 max crisis that ended up doing him in. top of the new ceo will be getting grounded 737 max planes up into the air. the company halted the production until it works with the faa to get it recertified. they say under the previous ceo, it was too cozy getting the plane to market and family members say boeing should have done more to claim responsibility for the crashes. the company says, the new ceo,
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david calhoun will bring renewed commitment to transparency and better communication. boeing's stock as a result of the shakeup enjoying a bump today. it shaved 641 points off the dow since the second crash in march. a little bit on the new ceo, david calhoun. he will start in january. he has been on the board of directors for boeing since 2009. he currently serves an executive at private equity firm blackstone. he worked for 26 years at general electric, specifically in the aircraft engines and transportation sectors. so he certainly knows quite a bit about this industry. jackie. jackie: grady, thank you so much for that report. coming up, trump spending the holiday in florida, taking the time to slam speaker nancy pelosi over what he says is her unfair delay on the impeachment fight. and later in the show, tensions mounting over a showdown with north korea, with north korea warning of a possible christmas gift missile. stay with us. ♪.
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day, a political response because nancy pelosi and the democrats hate the president. >> what i really want to see though, is fill in the gaps. there are gaps. >> i think going too far. for goodness sakes, that is not what the constitution envisioned. >> this is the latest in a series of constitutional train wrecks orchestrated by nancy pelosi. impeachment is a dead cat. stop playing with it. bury it. it is going nowhere. quit violating the constitution. give the president his day in court, let's get this behind us so, we can talk about things that people really care about. jackie: fox news's rich edson has more on the latest from florida where president trump is spending the whoday week. rich? reporter: good evening, jackie. president trump is just beginning his two weeks here in florida as democrats in a court filing today say they still want to speak with the former white house counsel don mcgahn because they say they could still pursue additional articles of impeachment.
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well the president is commenting on the articles of impeachment that have already passed. he tweeted earlier today, nancy pelosi who already lost the house and speakership once, is about to lose it again. is doing everything she can to delay zero republican vote articles of impeachment. she is trying to take over the senate and cryin' chuck is trying to take over the trial. no way. democrats are pushing what they call a fair process, they want witnesses, documents and criticized republicans for refusing to approach impeachment in what they say a fair manner. criticism senate majority leader mitch mcconnell dismissed this morning. >> first on the impartiality issue do you think chuck schumer is impartial? do you think elizabeth warren is impartial? >> no. >> bernie sanders is impartial? let's quit the charade. this is a political exercise, a political exercise. all i'm asking of schumer is that we treat trump the same way we treated clinton. reporter: speaker pelosi
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justifying her strategy. she tweeted today, quote, president trump blocked his own witnesses and documents from the house and from the american people on phony complaints about the house process. what is his excuse now? other democrats are asking, what the white house is afraid of. >> say to president trump, release the emails. let your aids testify. we say to leader mcconnell, a fair trial with the facts. only the facts. reporter: with all this the president's re-election campaign and republican national committee say, in two days after impeachment, they managed to raise $10 million. jackie? jackie: thank you so much for that, rich. with me now house judiciary committee member, republican guy rest send thaler. let me start. there is so much to get to. with notion of additional articles of impeachment, your thoughts? >> go back to the process again. it was unfair to begin with but
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for democrats to have more articles of peach pooch you would have thought they would have learned by now. this, sadly it has been good for the republican party. it is bad for the american people but good for the republican party. our poll numbers are up. president trump's poll numbers are up. we're more united than ever. our republican congress is bigger now than the start of impeachment. why nancy pelosi would want to go back in this quagmire i have no idea, but bring it on. jackie: let me ask you this, senator roy blunt he doesn't think the speaker has the right to even do this. they had their trial. they had their bite at the apple. who are the democrats and house to dictate to the senate how runs its trial? >> the democrats just spent weeks lecturing house republicans on the constitution and proclaiming themselves constitutional experts. what part of the constitution does it say nancy pelosi, speaker of the house gets to dick day terms in the senate? that is not how it works. the house investigates.
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the house votes on impeachment which of course it did and the senate tries the senate. it is up to the senate remove or keep the president in office. the speaker has nothing to do with it. jackie: yeah. mitch mcconnell also said that you know, she wants to hold on to the papers and drag this out, she can do that. >> mitch mcconnell will continue to get conservative judges on the court through confirmmation. so mitch mcconnell knows what he is doing. but again, it shows how flimsy these two articles of impeachment really are. nancy pelosi had the confidence in these two articles, she would send it to the house, send it to the senate. let me say this. it is unprecedented, it never happened before where a president has been impeached, voted on and speaker has not sent the articles to the senate. once again we would be breaking precedent in the house this is also the first time it has been totally partisan impeachment. the bipartisan vote was not to impeach. the bipartisan vote was not to even have the impeachment inquiry from the very beginning.
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jackie: let me ask you this. chuck schumer also saying that the american people will basically assume that a trial with no witnesses is evidence of a coverup, plain and simple, that's it. >> that is absolutely ridiculous. let's remember that the democrats would not allow president trump to present exculpatory evidence. that is evidence that is favorable to the defendant. president trump was not able to present his own witnesses when adam schiff was having closed-door meetings literally in the basement of the capitol. to come say the process wasn't fair this, is unfair from the beginning. president trump has been railroaded. procedures have not been followed. now it is time for that, for the senate to vote on this. the democrats are terrified because they know, that the evidence does not match the articles of impeachment. there has been no crime committed. jackie: then dick durbin weighing in, why should this be a foregone conclusion here? listen what he said. >> i will take an oath of office when it comes to the impeachment on the floor of the senate that i promise impartial justice so
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help me god. i want to stick by that. i am basically want to hear the evidence. >> so is it a mistake for fellow senators on both sides of the aisle frankly to say how they will vote before the trial starts? >> i think it is. i think they have gone too far. jackie: your thoughts on that? >> i'm sorry, this process has been broken from the start but for the democrats now to say that it's wrong to have an opinion, you got to remember, over 70 democrats voted to impeach the president before the july 25th phone call, right? there were 17 members on the house judiciary committee who were democrats voted to impeach before july even occurred. they have been wanting to impeach the president from day one. representative talib said i believe on the day she was sworn in, we have to impeach the mother. they have been angling to impeach the president, evidence be damned. they're getting cold feet. they know they're dropping in
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the polls. republican party is stronger than ever and mitch mcconnell and republican senators will expose how film sir, how weak, how rush this entire process has been. jackie: final question to you, and real quick here. lindsey graham was talking about senators compelling testimony, for example from white house chief of staff mick mulvaney or former national security advisor john bolton, saying he doesn't think the senate will compel them to testify? >> well, we have to remember that when it was time for us to call factual witnesses in the judiciary committee, that was deprive of us. i had a motion to subpoena the whistleblower. the democrats voted that down on partisan lines. so if the house judiciary members were not able to call factual witnesses why try to remediate it now? there is still no underlying the crime. the democrats cannot make out what we as lawyers call a prima facia case, meaning facts do not match the elements of the crime. jackie: great to see you,
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congressman, thanks so much for your time. >> thanks for having me on. jackie: coming up on the show, fight for 2020. signs that pete buttigieg is moving to senator. obama is reportedly talking up elizabeth warren behind closed doors. plus saudi arabia issues death sentences to five men linked to the torture and execution of journalist jamal khashoggi but give a pass to the top advisor to crown prince mohammed bill salman. we've got that. ( ♪ )
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♪. jackie: now to the showdown with north korea. american and south korean special forces conducting drills to simulate the infiltration of an enemy facility. fox news's greg palkot has that story from london. over to you, greg. reporter: north korea could be whipping up new trouble just in time for the holidays. in new satellite imagery seeing
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in past 24 hours, we're seeing expanded activity with a plant associated with some of the north's most dangerous intercontinental ballistic missiles. they are capable of hitting the united states. they have not launched them since 2017 there is self-imposed moratorium, while stocks went on with the u.s. they are stalled. they are threatening what they call a christmas gift for the u.s. unless they get what they want. over the weekend north korea leader kim jong-un reportedly met with his top military officials. according to state media, he told them, north korea needs to bolster the military, the armed forces in the crucial and turbulent time. south korean president moon in beijing meeting with chinese president xi. both sides promising to maintain dialogue with north korea. china is calling for an easing on sanctions with north korea. president trump an north korean leader kim jong-un have met twice in the past year. talks are going nowhere. the latest tweet we've seen from
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president trump saying kim is too smart, he has too much to lose to act in a hostile way. perhaps the next couple days will show how smart kim is. back to you. jackie: thank you, greg. joining us now, the heritage foundation's bruce clinger, a former cia deputy division chief for korea. bruce, let's get right into it because former national security advisor john bolton saying that president trump's stance on north korea has not been tough enough. your thoughts on that. >> mr. bolton is correct. the u.s. is pulling punches on fully enforcing our own laws. president trump said there were 300 north korean entities violating u.s. law and financial system he wasn't sanctioning because we're talking so nicely to north korea. there are 12 chinese banks congress sent a list to the white house they think are committing money laundering crimes in the u.s. and we're not taking action. there is more we can do to more fully enforce the laws and put
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more pressure on the north korean regime. jackie: bruce, we have seen the president negotiating trade deals. i'm not comparing trade what is happening in north korea. they're very, very different. he does have an unusual approach when he goes, you know, to negotiate with foreign leaders. any sort of method to his madness here? why he is trying to pursue a little more diplomacy? >> well the u.s. for many years or decades even been trying dip home my with north korea. we had eight failed agreements with north korea where they promised never to build nuclear weapons or give up what they promised never to build. since the sig pour summit we have not had any progress on denuclearization. north korea doesn't working level meetings or more summit meetings with the president. along with increasing rhetoric, likelihood of some kind of a provocation, most likely missile launch in the coming weeks, north korea pressuring the u.s.
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to push us to abandon our position, pushing north korea with u.n. resolutions to denuclearization. jackie: do you think the president will rethink his maximum pressure and make it even more severe? >> well, the christmas day, i think was more rhetorical statement than literal. it, more likely wait until their end of year deadline they have been talking about really throughout 2019 but whenever they do a provocation and whatever level of missile they do, then the u.s. has the option. we're hoping they don't either overreact or under react. the president needs to thread the needle by increasing the maximum pressure. actually going to more maximum. there was a recent congressional legislation called the otto warm beer act which is trying to induce the executive branch to fully enforce u.s. laws. jackie: is there any way to get to the negotiating table to have a discussion about this.
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>> it is always up to north korea. we're always trying diplomacy. north korea is always the one that closed or slammed the door back. we're trying to get them back, one of the purposes of sanctions or pressure, to induce a change in behavior. also enforcing our laws. penalizing those that violate our laws. it makes it harder for north korea to import or export items for prohibited nuclear missile program. jackie: bruce, great to see you. thank you so much. >> thanks very much. >> still ahead reports that president obama is singing elizabeth warren's praises behind closed doors to donors but still stopping short of the full endorsement. we're taking you to california where presidents are backing up and bolting down in the face of rising taxes and a host of other big problems. stay with us. (thud) (crash) (grunting) (whistle)
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♪. jackie: turning to the showdown with iran and massive fallout over the murder of jammal khashoggi, fox news's trey yingst has the latest on saudi arabia from jerusalem. trey? reporter: jackie, good evening. today we did learn that individuals in saudi arabia were sentenced to death for the murder of "washington post" columnist jamal khashoggi. additionally three people were sentenced to 24 years in prison. according to the public prosecutor in saudi arabia, these defendants will have a chance to appeal the verdicts. the cia included, concluded based on an independent investigation that the killing was ordered directly by crown prince mohammed bin salman. the country of turkey, that said the 15-man hit squad that arrived with bone saw, be tried on turkish soil for the crime. he was sanctioned by the u.s. for his involvement in the killing. according to state television,
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catani was proven not to have involvement in the murder and ultimately was released. >> the investigation was conducted by the general prosecution. a charge was placed against him. the court ruled for release due to lack of evidence to convict him in this case. reporter: that spokesperson for the saudi public prosecutor also added today, that investigators found this murder was not premeditated. he did not mention during the statements made earlier today in saudi arabia that the 15-person crew that actually arrived on the ground in istanbul brought with them a bone saw. investigators from the cia, do allege the saudi crown prince was aware what was happening and directly ordered the killing of this "washington post" columnist. jackie? jackie: trey yingst, thanks so much for that. for the battle of 2020 looks like pete buttigieg is pivoting a little more to the center while elizabeth warren and bernie sanders are pushing harder to the left. let's take it to patrice lee
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onwuka women's independent forum. mayor pete, how center can he go. >> he is pretty much center left to begin with. he wants to position himself as all tern tough to joe biden and certainly the definitely alternative to far left candidates of warren and sanders. you know, when we look at, he has actually backtracked on some of his positions. he used to embrace "medicare for all." not so much. maybe for a public option. he is saying i know what? i want to be able to be more electable. if joe biden is too old, whatever the case may be i would be the better alternative. jackie: that is interesting because a lot of folks are talking about his popularity increasing. he may not have what it takes to get the nomination. at the same time you think this is a trend? warren and sanders are not going to go center but do you think this is a trend that the democrats have to embrace if they want a serious chance winning this election? >> i think they do.
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we recognize, we talk about the democratic party taking a very far left turn but i think it is pretty far to say a lot of centrist democrats don't embrace socialism, don't embrace "medicare for all" and don't want someone who will speak to them as blue-collar workers, people felt left behind by a lot, a lot of the globalists ideas that have taken a foothold in the left-wing of the party right now. now, buttigieg, his problem still continues to be minorities. how will he reach the black vote and how will he reach the hispanic vote? vice president biden still continues to lead among blacks in particular. jackie: let's talk about mayor bloomberg and his latest move, basically as a billionaire saying i will keep the offices open whether i win or don't win, to be able to have some sort of an influence? >> mayor bloomberg is definitely going to be the spoiler no matter what, no matter who is the opponent. i think he is saying he wants to take on president trump. he will be there to the very
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end. i do wonder though, why not support other candidate? why not put your money behind other candidate who may get the nomination and more likely to win against president trump? i don't know if he is collecting all of this data and using it for other purposes in the future or just to remain relevant. but he has the money. he is going to use it. he has the right as an american citizen who is very wealthy to do so but it doesn't necessarily mean that he is going to be continue to be very popular. jackie: let's talk about president obama for a second talking up elizabeth warren a little bit. remember president obama would not get behind joe biden with that official endorsement. do you think he is going to give it to warren? >> i don't. i may sound like a conspiracy theorist i actually think he might give it to hillary clinton if she were to jump in the race if joe biden didn't do well on super tuesday. i say this. he has been feeding ideas around, women leaders being the best leaders. elizabeth warren and obama, they have very different policy
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perspectives. she is so far to the left. even when she was working with him in on consumer financial protection bureau, they butted heads in lots of different ways. i really find it strange to think that he would suddenly throw all of his support behind her. i think obama is, thinking about his legacy. how he can bring back his legacy and elizabeth warren would not do that. jackie: really quickly, how likely do you think it would be that hillary clinton would resurface here and how it would impact things in terms of how voters are looking at this election? >> i would give it a 40% chance right now, depending how super tuesday goes, it could bump up, 70, 80%. really depends how joe biden does coming out of super tuesday. jackie: we'll watching, patrice. >> great to see you. merry christmas. jackie: two days before christmas, yet another violent weekend in chicago. 34 people shot. fox news's matt finn in chicago with details on that. reporter: jackie over the weekend there was a house party
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here in chicago that was held in memory of someone who was shot to death earlier this year and at the party 13 people were shot. it is one of the largest mass shootings in chicago in recent years. the 13 victims include nine men and four women between 16 and 48 years old. four victims were critically wounded. police say the shooting started inside of the house party around 12:30 a.m. yesterday. the gunman fired on guests inside of the house an outside as they ran for their lives. one man in custody for unlawful possession of a firearm. police have not specifically identified him as the shooter. a second person was taken in for questioning. people say the scene was so frantic, some people did not realize they were hit with a bullet. >> it was chaotic scene. listening to the radio, you didn't know people who were shot, responding after they went home. i imagine some people had graze wounds. they realized they were shot. reporter: citywide chicago
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police tell fox news there were 23 shooting incidents this past weekend, with a total of 37 people shot and five people murdered just days before christmas. police blame the violence on too many bad actors with guns. police say this december they're recovering as many weapons as they typically do during the summer months. it is unseasonably warm in chicago. temperatures in the '50s. police say that typically means more people an violence on the streets. chicago police are increasing patrols near the area where the shooting happened this weekend. jackie. jackie: matt, for the report. up next, spiraling taxes homeless crisis a bunch of massive problems fueling an exodus for california residents. later in the show, the trump administration heads to court in the battle to seize private land in texas for its border wall.
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milestone that demographers predicted the state would have passed by now. joining me is former california republican gubernatorial candidate, john cox. great to see you. >> great to be with you, jackie. merry christmas. jackie: merry christmas to you. talk about what you're finding in california right now in terms of people actually fleeing and people who want to flee? conditions are not optimal there at the moment? >> we are now canvasing independent voters, yaki all across california and number one issue with everyone of these voters is homelessness, followed closely by the housing crisis, i will tell you, i have personally gone door-to-door to talk to these voters. most of them are telling me if they could leave california they would. they're getting sick and tired of looking at higher cost of living. gasoline is 1.50 more per gallon than any place in the country.
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in some places we're paying five times electricity rates. water bills are going up. of course all high taxes of california are bleeding through food prices and clothing prices. working people of this state are finding that they just can't make it anymore. you're seeing it in declining numbers of population. it should be no surprise but the politicians in sacramento are in denial. newsome issued a video, oh, gee he has accomplished some things. i think people of this state would beg to differ with that. jackie: high taxes, yet you still have such problems. why can't they use some of the funds to combat homelessness? >> waste and corruption are rampant. it costs california twice per mile to build a road than it does in texas. now when you get that kind of mismanagement, there is just a story that we spent over a billion dollars on an accounting program in california that doesn't even work, jackie.
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i mean this harkens to the mismanagement of obamacare by the federal government and they're putting it in overdrive here. the mismanagement in this state is just epic. i think the voters are finally starting to realize it, i hope they will do something about it. jackie: i think california and i think nancy pelosi. >> yes. she been a politician here forever. of course her nephew, by marriage is gavin newsom. the two are joined at the hip. their policies are as well. they believe in government but they're both mismanaging their jobs so, so much, at some point in time i think voters will get wise to this. jackie: it is interesting, because, hud secretary, he was on the show a few weeks ago, he was also asked at that time if the trump administration would use federal property to shelter homeless people in california? this was his response.
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>> very happy to work with the governor. we're happy to work with the mayor, with the county commissioners, all of these people but we have to do things that make sense and we have to look at the data. we have to look at the evidence and do things based on that. jackie: your reaction to that? >> i think it's a great thing for the president and for secretary carson to get involved and say they will do something about homelessness. newsome's response was appoint a commission which is composed of the former mayor of sacramento who made his city one of the worst for homelessness in the state. and whole bunch of politicians and consultants who have been part of the problem. they're not addressing it. as a matter of fact a report came out said that the homeless population, jackie, despite all this publicity has increased. you know what the secretary's talking about there is the fact that they're not getting any cooperation between the federal government and sacramento because gavin newsom thinks it is part of his political agenda
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to troll the president, create antagonism between washington and sacramento. we ought to be working together. there is a lot of facilities, federal facilities in california could be used to house the homeless. that is certainly much more compassionate than letting them live on the streets. jackie: yet even though, we are seeing conditions deteriorate, we are seeing people leave, california hasn't been, has and will be a blue state. that is just not going to change. >> i don't know. there is six 1/2 million independent voters in california, jackie. i've started an organization called change california. we're going door-to-door to the independent voters. they're 30% of the population, voter population. and i think that they will get involved. i think that they will finally pull the plug on the leadership in sacramento because it is just not making this state a worthwhile place to live, even though we have the greatest
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weather and greatest natural beauty. living conditions on the ground are really resulting in this exodus from the state. and, we're going to try to talk to people about getting, getting this management changed. jackie: final point, it is not just homelessness, it is also a rise in the crime rate. >> it is. now, anything that is stolen under $1000 doesn't even get a ticket. we're seeing rise of petty crime, shoplifting, vehicle break-s in san francisco and los angeles are rampant. jackie: great to see you tonight. merry christmas to you. >> merry christmas. jackie: coming up the cost of border security is rising. the trump administration preparing for a court battle to seize private lands in texas to build its border wall. we'll talk to the former acting chief of i.c.e. about this and the latest on the drug smuggling tunnel discovered running from mexico to arizona. ♪. we're a reliable partner.
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yeah. that many! but right now, is not the time to talk about it. so when you're ready, search 'my denture care'. poligrip and polident. fixed. fresh. and just between us. jackie: the u.s. government is heading to court in an attempt to seize private land in texas to build that border wall. ronald, great to see you. how do you think this battle will shake out in court. >> it's necessary for the government to acquire land
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before they can build a border wall. so the constitution allowed for the government to exercise eminent domain. the judge will outline the negotiations and everybody will be paid fair market value. when i was a chief in the rio grande valley, many land owners sold us their land outright. we put the wall up, so there is a win-win for each of the municipalities. >> but presumably that process will take some time and potentially the administration has been beaten up for its efforts to build this wall. this is not going to look good. eminent domain, seizing property. >> it's difficult, but people are paid fair market value.
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the important thing is the plans we wrote when i was in cbc and the border patrol. they are necessary to secure the border. it will protect us in the long run and protect the rest of us. jackie: a body found in the river near the border. drug smuggling is a huge problem. how do you combat this without a wall? >> that exactly right. you want to have control of that border. it takes structure, and it takes technology, the cartel's influence over the border needs to be stopped. great to have you on this program. a merry christmas to you and your family. thank you for watching us. "lou dobbs tonight" is next.
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we want you to stay here and continue to watch on fox business. [♪] gregg: good evening, i'm gregg jarrett sitting in for the vacationing lou dobbs. washington begins the week locked in an impeachment stalemate. but the radical dimms may have exposed their play to swindle another charge against president trump. nancy pelosi refusing to send over two articles of impeachment against president trump until she knows how a trial will be run in the senate, not that it's any of her business. donald trump
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