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look at the price of gold. when we started on the air this morning we were up 25 bucks. now we're up $14. a muted response in the gold market. look at the price of oil. we were going on the air at $63 a barrel. we're still at $63 a barrel. muted. my time's up. neil, it is yours. neil: we were going to have all those three things in our lead. stuart: sorry. neil: i was going to say ditto. in all seriousness you and i are old enough remember how we would have responded to these developments in the past. nothing like then. to your point, i think it was your point about we're more energy independent. it's a different world right now. very, very different world. shocking. anyway, thank you for the lead. i appreciate it. stuart, we are on all of that. middle east tensions rising. as stuart pointed out here, not the reaction you would think, especially when the president is warning iran of major
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retaliation. if they retaliate, talk sanctions against iraq. gold, still in and out of a seven-year high. a lot lower than it had been. oil barely positive. for a while, brent, that was well over $70 a barrel. but it is not translating to big gains here. then we have treasury yield actually backing up a little bit after it was, getting lower and lower on sort of a flight to quality, that doesn't seem necessary. the dow as i indicated down about 63 points. we had been down close to 300 points. what is remarkable about all of this, folks, sometimes we see things in the prism of the financial community. i like what it shows people who bet with their own money think of what this is going. they're not always prescient and right. they're far from accurate period. in the middle of this moment, what some are calling potential world war 3:00, sort of a muted, sort of a shrugged shoulder reaction. why is that?
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latest from blake burman at the white house. hay. hey, blake. reporter: over here at the white house they're reacting to the comments the president made over the weekend if iran were to retaliate against the u.s., iran's cultural sites could be targeted. the president doubled down on that arriving back over here to the white house, telling reporters aboard air force one who asked about it, saying of iran, they're allowed to kill our people? they're allowed to torture and maim our people? they're allowed to use roadside bombs and blow up people and we're not allowed to touch their cultural sites? it doesn't work that way, the president said. one of the top advisors kellyanne conway was asked about this, the president was speaking about a hypothetical at this point. that it is not a certainty at this point. listen. >> to all the questions being asked, the president has identified the sights, has said that, it may happen if iran retaliates in a certain way.
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reporter: hence the if qualifier in. nancy pelosi announced that they will introduce a war powers resolution at some point this week which would potentially curtail the possibility that the administration would have against iran. the house speaker called the strike against qassem soleimani, quote, disproportionate when she wrote to her democratic colleagues. she wrote in the letter, we're concerned the administration took the action without consultation of congress. without respect for congress' war powers granted to it by the constitution. but some republicans are saying, what the house speaker is trying to do, only amounts to political posturing. >> war powers act, this is not about congress control. this is about slapping at the president who they don't like. it is about the 2020 election. reporter: by the way, neil, we're hearing that the state department and the defense department are scheduled to at least, could potentially brief members of congress up on the
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hill on wednesday. so in a couple days, about the strike that ended up killing the irv iranian general, soleimani. neil? neil: so they will spell out why they thought it was necessary to do it, right? that, right now, they're being second-guessed by a lot of these democrats saying, you didn't have to do it? they say we had compelling enough evidence they were planning additional attacks on american personnel, right? reporter: they are being questioned about the intelligence. why it needed to be done? why it needed to be done right now? what is the legality of it? could you do it without the backing of congress? now what exactly they are briefed upon up there on the hill remains to be seen, talking about state department, defense department, likely, neil, you're right, they would spell out sort of the reasoning behind it. some of assessments behind it. the administration said they didn't want to get really brief the top members, top democratic members of congress beforehand because they were worried about leaks. now that it has happened of
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course, the strike, they would be able to brief congress. this is what we know. this is what we knew at the time, this is why we did it. neil: got it. congress is demanding strict adherence to the intelligence and in the past president giving short-shrift to that intelligence talking about initially pulling out of northern syria. now that he accepted intelligence recommendations taking out soleimani i'm wondering who is consistent or not here? reporter: the president has been very skeptical neil, of intelligence. he was skeptical of the iraq war to begin with. neil: sure. reporter: speaking about intelligence he talks about the deep state which he feels is against him and some of the intelligence within the u.s. government is against him but part of the argument the president is putting forth is that the intelligence is rock solid and crystal clear. so you're right, so you had the
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president who has been questioning intelligence for years now and i believe even, when he met with vladmir putin in helsinki, a lot of the criticism directed towards the president's way, the president doubting intelligence who was behind the interference campaign in the 2016 election, he got crushed for that but now that this drone has been fired off, taking down one of iran's top leaders, you're exactly right is what the president is doing saying we have the best intelligence in the world. at one point questioning it, now holding it up and hailing it. neil: again to bash him on this move and this decision makes you wonder who is playing politics with what here. reporter: politics -- neil: everywhere, my friend. thank you very, very much. by the way just coming into the newsroom, u.n. secretary-general antonio gutierrez warning geopolitical tensions are running highest level this century. a cauldron of tensions leading more countries to take on unprecedented decisions with
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unpredictable consequences, a profound risk of miscalculation. to someone following all of this very, closely, former deputy assistant to defense secretary james mattis, amber smith. amber, what is interesting, in light of this criticism, i don't know to whom gutierrez is focusing his criticism but it's on the heels of the nato general secretary saying he sees a lot of coordination on the part of europeans with us on this and our response. who's right? >> well i think what you're going to see as we move forward, past the initial shock that went around the world after the killing of soleimani is you're going to see america's allies rallying behind us. we have strong allies in the middle east. we have israel just as you said. we're seeing european allies speaking out and really joining forces with the u.s. i like to push back on this world war iii
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rhetoric, that is not the packed we're going down but always favorable to have your allies and your partners in europe and the middle east stand behind you when it matters the most. neil: amber, it is so easy to get caught in the political trap, if you don't like the president, rip him on this decision, if you do, praise him on this decision but on the military intelligence factor, apparently the administration is prepared to share with key members on wednesday, there was ample evidence to suggest soleimani was on verge of yet another attack targeting american soldiers and beyond but that intelligence comes at a time when democrats have said the president gives it short-shrift. they say he ignored it when it came to risk of pulling our troops out of northern syria. to be consistent, shouldn't they be saying he properly listened to it when it came to taking this guy out? >> well i think that that is why he was elected to be president
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of the united states by the american people. he has to make the hard choices with all sorts of different information that is presented to him. and, the course of action to take out soleimani was one option. he had multiple options on the table. so you have to take all sorts of things into consider including the second and third order effects which is what most people are concerned about today. those are laid out on the table, prior to the decision being made. so intelligence is presented and in many different fashions in terms of what the instance is. so i think that, what the administration is it doing now, in terms of going back to congress and briefing them on the intelligence that they had, which led to the decision that they made, is a right one. they need to let congress know what happened. i understand why they didn't do it ahead of time. they're very concerned about leaks because there have been leaks out of congress when it comes to these types of things, that need to be very quiet,
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prior to. i think they're taking the appropriate steps in terms of letting congress know the decision-making process about the imminent danger to american lives and why they felt they needed to take out soleimani when they did. neil: amber, thank you very, very, much. appreciate your insight here. also appreciate insight of my next guest, jerry seib, "wall street journal" executive, washington editor, great writer, great thinker. we talk about black swan developments in markets. usually thought of as unexpected developments that change the entire complexion of the news cycle. say nothing of a market cycle. that this might be that. i always think it's a little too soon to pounce on these sort of things to be indicative of that, but what do you think? >> it does have the potential. there has been this kind of long-running game of chicken underway between iran and the u.s. both sides have been adhering to the red lines they drew. the u.s. was basically trying to exert maximum pressure on iran.
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iran was responding in indirect ways designed to escalate the situation. not to the point where there would be direct military conflict. president trump crossed one of those lines by launching a direct attack at iranian military target. that does change the game. but i also think that though the basic reality here, that either side wants a war remains in effect. from iranian point of view, the reason they might want to moderate the response now, they have things moving in their direction as a result of this attack. this distracted attention inside of iran from their own economic problems caused by u.s. sanctions. neil: right. >> on the other side there were iraqis in the streets of baghdad a few weeks ago, protesting too much iranian influence in the country. those people are out on the streets protesting too much american influence in their country. the iranian leadership has a reason to modulate, moderate their response to see whether trend continue to flow in their direction. neil: i'm old enough to remember
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the iranian hostage crisis and ayatollah khamenei loved distraction whipsaw economy, focus on great satan, united states, keep the hostage crisis going 444 days. i'm not comparing the two. i'm saying there is long history of iranian regimes that love distractions. would it also be in their interest to keep the distracting going? >> at a certain level, absolutely. one of the other reasons for that, one of the long-term iranian goals is to create so much unpleasantness for the u.s. troops in iraq they decide to leave, president trump decides to get them out. that may be one of the black swan effects. people may be worried about conflict and endless war. this may be a move that creates so much unpleasantness, impulse in the u.s., which is bipartisan gets out of the region takes on greater stream in the long run. if you're iranians keep the
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conflict alive at low level, thinking end result will be departure of u.s. and expansion of iranian influence. i can see a strategic game which iranians do that. that requires creating unpleasantness from the u.s. but not inciting a all-out war. neil: jerry seib, good seeing you again. thank you very much. >> thank you. neil: jerry seib. the golden globes provided a sort of retreat from all the serious stuff or did it? not when the host ricky gervais was calling out double standards. >> you know nothing about the real world. most of you spent less time in school than get greta thunberg and when you get the award, come up, thank your agent and your god and [bleep].
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neil: all right. golden globes host ricky gervais tearing into hollywood elite for hypocrisy, working for certain companies. lauren simonetti with details and fallout. hey, lauren. reporter:red everybody's morals. five-time golden globes host, ricky gervais, apple's new streaming content, completely shut out of any awards. >> apple rolled into the tv game with "the morning show." a superb drama, yeah. [cheers and applause] superb drama about the importance of dignity and doing the right thing made by a company that runs sweatshops in china. so, you say you're woke, but companies you work for, unbelievable. apple, amazon, disney, if i isis started a streaming service you would call your agent, wouldn't you? reporter: jaws were on the floor, neil the here is the snapshot.
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netflix was nominated for record 34. took him two globes. two for amazon. four for hbo max. big winners was hollywood establishment. sony, "once a upon a time in hollywood." that one best motion picture for musical, comedy, "1917" won for best drama. ricky gervais said you're have no basis to lecture the public on anything but they didn't. watch. >> we have to beg and plead for everyone we know to vote in 2020. >> make no mistake, the tragedy unfolding in australia is climb mad-change based. we need to act based on science. >> women 18 to 118, when it is time to vote, please do so in your own self-interest. we are the largest voting body in this country. make it look more like us. reporter: they got political in the end, neil. neil: that's a shocker.
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lauren, thank you very, very much. talk about ricky gervais. i seen this covered in great detail as it should be, it is so unusual. what about his future? he always has been a bit of an out cast in the entertainment community, he zigs while others zags and zings while they don't want to zing. iconic come meadeian joe piscopo. they knew what they were getting when they cot him what do you think of fall out for him? >> made him a rock star to many people. he picked up a whole another audience, i really do. i don't like that kind of humor. i'm the don rickles, guy, hey, you hockey puck? he would always make fun of you. rick kels was a brilliant that. ricky is -- neil: equal opportunity -- >> it gets mean-spirited. i don't like that edge, i'm always so clean on stage. he was brilliant, neil.
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not only -- neil: they knew, the globes folks knew what they were getting, right? >> they had to do rehearsal or something, they let it go. tim cook, tim apple as we like to call him -- neil: he looked happy to be there. >> oh, my gosh, slave labor. i can't believe he said that. okay this guy is done. that is what i thought. neil: you've seen this, we joked about it long ago with "snl," if you go against the grain, sometimes you got problems. what do you think for -- >> i think he is okay. i think he is all right. he went, i can't believe he did that, when he started talking about you don't know what you're talking about. twitter blew up, all the conservatives, all the donald trump, twitter followers just blew up and loved it, look, these guys are great. you know what i always respect about hollywood? i'm not in the loop. i'm not on the a-list, b list, i'm not on the wait list in hollywood but they work -- neil: not on wait --
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>> they see me, you were great, joe pesci, right? they always say that. but the fact of the matter, they work so hard out there. it is so hard to do films like that. 5:30, 3:00 in the morning they have to get up, do -- neil: do you think it is easy reading the prompter? >> you know what i felt guilty? neil: enough, enough. >> last time with you, doing four hours a day, whining, 20 hours, you're "marathon man." you don't -- you do three hours a day. neil: with makeup. one of the things, i always, listening with the response, and the responses were tepid to a lot of these zingers. only a couple of stars were doing political speech making. do you think he cut down on other stars -- >> great point, absolutely he did. he went with it. i don't care. that is the attitude. i don't care. that is where we got to go. neil: you said you don't think he rallied america around him, people like that. do you given your political
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disposition, i wouldn't call you a straight conservative but more conservative than hollywood. >> yeah, yeah. neil: which by comparison means you're conservative. do you suffer for that? >> yeah. i think you do. i honestly do. the only guy draw analogy to is jon voight. die-hard, conservative, pro-supporter of the president. you know, he is great. voight is great. probably one of the greatest actors of this generation. neil: it is much harder, right? other stars said, if you going with that line you're not, or some are apolitical. brad pitt didn't even go there, right? >> i don't know. it was so funny, when he said, he started going after everything, and then the girl came out, started to complain, i was talking to sandra smith, patricia arquette, is that who it was? forgive me, but the plastic surgery, enough. scolding us what will happen and vote in 2020. you can't make it up. can't make it up.
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gervais was right. they don't have the right, no matter what you're in, no big group has right to tell us how to vote. neil: do you hi the oscars we'll have a show like that. >> they will not have a host at all. what i felt bad, tom hanks. i said the jimmy stewart of our time. he is a national treasure. they went to him, okay, this is going to be a long night. did you see look on his face. neil: would you want a gig like that? i been at events you hosted. you're very good. >> thank you. i do have -- i'm never going there, hollywood, you have to work the game. you have to be within that community. that is the way they work it. with due respect by the way. i'm fine on the radio, am 970. all great. neil: a great show. you rally liberals and conservatives alike. >> my gosh, today we're talking about what happened in iran and what is going on in iraq, and with the golden globes it is like a balancing act. i go by the cavuto playbook. i always take the high road, right. neil: not really.
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never does well. >> you always do. neil: how are you feeling? >> i did, two seconds. people keep asking. i tell you because i talked about the radio. took mixed medication, sinus medicine, i was at a party at new year's eve. look at me. dedicated dad that i am. i wrapped each present. i like custom wrapped them -- neil: for the kids. >> i did all of it. i had all my kids with me. i color-coded wrapping. i did the stockings, i did the stockings! neil, 3:00 in the morning. and i said, i got notes from santa, everything went so great, when that happens, god goes -- neil: you're okay? >> 13 stitches later. i just kind of second went out. neil: someone on "snl." it wasn't that. >> i want to get him.
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♪ neil: we're getting more details on the former nissan head carlos ghosn how the heck he got out of japan, telling maria bartiromo there was evidence of a coup against him. to kristina partsinevelos with a lot more on all of this. reporter: neil, carlos ghosn told fox business this weekend he had actual evidence that the japanese were intentionally trying to take him down because he wanted to merge nissan and renault. ghosn has a press conference wednesday where he plan to name actually japanese officials. he was unable to speak to his wife even during the holiday. that fueled desire to leave
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japan undetected. in hollywood-style case he stuffed himself with black audio gearbox, with drilled holes on bottom of the box, the box traveled on to a plane and private jet at osaka international airport. according to "the wall street journal" the escape took months of planning and involved 10 to 15 people. now japanese officials tightened immigration measures after drone skipped bail, fled to lebanon. officials as you're seeing on the screen right now, they're considering electronic monitors for those on bail. ghosn to remind everyone was arrested in 2018 on charges of financial crimes related to the time leading nissan motor. he denied the charges, told fox business he refused to sit in japanese apartment under surveillance when he could or would not get a fair trial. neil, he says he is willing to have his case heard under any court aside from japan. more details are set to emerge
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on wednesday. neil: lebanon does not have extradition agreement with japan. he is safe where he is for the time-being, right? reporter: exactly. he is in a neighborhood. his house is pinged. i looked it up. he is supposedly safe for now. neil: good to know you always want to get out of a country, put yourself in a big box. reporter: you know why it happened at airport? the box is too big for security. neil: i heard that. reporter: this will be made into a movie for sure. neil: there is not a box big enough for me. i don't know, we'll see. always good seeing you, kristina. thank you very much. reporter: thank you, neil. neil: the patriots are toast. tom brady, who cares where you go. ♪.
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neil: all right. a lot of worries now if this situation in iran continues to fester, it could hit our economy. former wisconsin republican governor scott walker, following all of that. he focuses on more important things that help keep him in power in wisconsin for quite some time, even through recalls and all that i personally covered. i remembered it well. what saved his bacon then was a good economy, a food -- good
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underlying economy, that is what will hp the president no matter what is going on a world away. governor, always good having you. >> thank you, neil, happy new year to you and your viewers. neil: economy usually dictates everything. given the surprise of the strength of this economy that he is not doing better than he is, you think when push comes to shove, iran and potential black swan developments notwithstanding, economy is good, spending is respectable, he has got it, that is kind of your position, right? >> absolutely and i think that contrasting it with the kind of do nothing mentality we see from democrats and congress. they're sucking up all air from democrats running for president. really in the end, a good economy, see it here in wisconsin, see it throughout the midwest, battleground states, more jobs, lowest unemployment since really 50 years ago, december of, 1969.
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you have got it in terms of key groups. lowest recorded unemployment rate ever for african-americans, for hispanic-americans, asian-americans. people with disabilities, even veterans, you see wages going up. those are really important things here. people want to know, what will happen for my family? what is the future hold for my kids and my grandkids? as long as i think we're on the right path i think the president is on the right path if that changes obviously things would shake up. we're on the right track despite what is happening in iran and other places around the world. >> i read polls in your state that have it fairly tight right now despite all the economic improvement you alluded to and i'm wondering why you think that is the case? >> well i think you saw, probably the best public poll that was taken back in 2016 election, the marquette university poll had the president down 6 points day of
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election. elsewhere in the country, republicans tend to poll lower. they tend to be shy recognizing who they are for. that is more true with this president. i think it will shape up, you see the contrast between the president and strong economy, strong policies you put in place, any number of these socialists running for president on the democrat side. when people think about their health care, we think about health insurance, yeah, there is things that need to improve, but wiping out private health insurance for as many as 180 americans, 180 million americans, i think that is sort of thing that makes people scared. you hear it from bernie sanders, you hear it from elizabeth warren, increasingly you're hearing it from people like joe biden. that is a stark contrast. people want stability. they want thinks to get done. they want the family to do better. that is what the president has done, despite rhetoric, despite tweets. in the end people ultimately vote in the best interests of their families, not just themselves but their kids and
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grandkids. neil: i'm already looking at 2024. i'm kidding but half kidding, i notice that two of the trump kids are listed among those republicans would be interested in looking at. i think mike pompeo was on the list. i'm thinking of a guy like you, from a rust belt state turns it around, would you think of running again. >> some day. i'm 20 plus years younger than the president. i will stay focused on challenges at that i have. i will start working as president of the young america's foundation. i'm committed to that. mike pence is a great friend, long-time ally. don't want to get ahead of 2020. i think he would be outstanding president. my friend nikki haley is talked about. did a extraordinary job at the u.n. and governor. there is a lot of candidates. we're blessed unlike the field of democrats. neil: you wouldn't necessarily defer to them, you have your own background and achievements, right? >> i have a long time this
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president raised bar how long we're in competition. we have to get past 2020. last thing we want elizabeth warren or bernie sanders there. they would absolutely damage the economy, maybe irreversibly damage the economy and that is bad for our kids, grandkids, future generations. neil: i tried my best to embarass you, say something that would be quoted. you would not take the bait. governor, thank you very much. good seeing you. thanks, neil. good to be with you. neil: mr. fix-it, becoming mr. google it. the internet is robbing a lot of people of basic handyman skills. believe me i had a problem before the internet. ♪. since my dvt blood clot i wasn't sure... was another around the corner? or could things go a different way? i wanted to help protect myself.
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neil: all right. safe haven, gold highest level since 2013, amid alot of growing tensions in the middle east. well off the highs of the day, it is reminder in places like oil, bonds, safe place to put dough when you're nervous the world is falling apart, it is playing out again. to jared levy, what is -- i guess they're pretty predictable, when stocks are falling, these other asset classes are rising, stocks are not falling as much, these others are not gaining as much. so what do you make of that? >> neil, great to see you by the way. neil: thank you. >> there are always correlations in the marketplace, right? we need to figure out the why and, if that is really the motivator right? is it causation, correlation, what is the difference there. talking about gold now, what i found interesting, yeah, gold is
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rallying. obviously safe haven what is going on with the middle east. there is something else going on. two things. one is, the dollar has been dropping since about october. the dollar against most major currencies globally has been going down. there is another correlation. when the dollar falls, commodities like gold, oil, silver rise. the one thing i found interesting, the reason why it is sort of a positive, when you look at silver, which again, silver will rise a lot of times with gold as a safe haven, not as much, silver, a, isn't worth as much. it is a lot harder to store. it is industrial metal. here is what is interesting. silver is rising. that tells me people are not thinking, if silver is going up. >> they're not thinking the whole world is coming to an end. neil: would you hedge the bets, spread the wealth around? concerned about repeating a great year like last year, that is hard to do? would you want to spread bets into asset classes that haven't done as well? >> that is what is going on.
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neil: okay. >> everybody knows last year was an outlyer. i didn't think we would do 27, 28% in the major indexes that was far out of my estimation. what i'm advising folks to do, yeah, you start to spread into more value plays, touch a little bit of commodities. i think that is a smart move. get out of the stuff highly volatile and maybe more susceptible to a change in the guard politically which again i don't think is going to happen. but you have to start thinking about that. decoupling, diversifying that is going to be the theme this year. not all boats will rise with the tide. neil: jared, always good seeing you, my friend. thank you very much. if you're into space, this could be the year because spacex is gearing up for the first launch putting 60, 6-0, more. >> space. deirdre bolton. >> that is a lot of satellites. if it succeeds there will be 180
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total. weather has to cooperate tonight. if you put your watch, 9:19 p.m. eastern time from cape canaveral in florida. that is what is going on. more than 25 million americans, neil, still don't have access to high-speed internet. so they include people who live in rural areas, people who are coming from areas with poor infrastructure. so starlink, owned by spacex, says the mission is to give everyone affordable, high-speed internet. it has competition, including blue origin owned by jeff bezos. another company called one web. not everyone is enthusiastic though. some experts say low orbit location, mean gravity will pull satellites back to earth in five years. at that point they will completely burn up. no one is sure about environmental effects people are calling space trash, space litter.
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astronomers also annoyed, shiny objects will clutter observation of the sky. it is already happening. 9 paint on the satellites is shiny and starlink trying a different kind of coating. we'll wait to see if the launch is successful. back to you. neil: thank you very much on all of that. deirdre bolton. we're getting some remarks coming out of the iranian government right now on this latest threat. for example, from rouhani, tweeting out, never threaten the iranian nation. those who refer to the number 52 should also remember the number 290. i believe he is referring commercial jet 290 that we shot down i think 1988 over the persian gulf, killing more than 300 people. that the united states has a history of doing this and, that iran will respond. we'll have more after this.
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neil: all right. new look right now into jeffrey epstein's jail cell raising a lot of fresh questions over his death, including some pictures that came out via "60 minutes" over the weekend. fox news correspondent bryan llenas with a lot more. reporter: neil, fox news obtained new photos that first aired on "60 minutes" that give us first time look inside jeffrey epstein's jail cell the morning he was found. it shows epstein's bunk bed, a mattress on the ground, prescription drugs, piles of orange sheets and bed linens all over his jail cell. a ballpoint pen and a note was also found in which epstein writes about conditions inside of the metropolitan correctional center a federal jail here in new york city. he quote, writes, giant bugs crawling over my hands.
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no fun. he claims guards sent him burnt food. kept him locked in a shower stall. epstein was allowed to have the sleep apnea machine inside of the cell as well with electrical cord. fox news also obtained photos of jeffrey epstein's autopsy. warning to our viewers, before we briefly show them, they are graphic. the first photo shows bloody ligature mark in the middle of epstein's neck. a second photo shows marks left on the back of epstein's neck. reknowned forensic pathologist michael baden hired by epstein's brother, says evidence shows that epstein more likely died of homicide and not suicide. dr. bauden says the next wounds do not match of kind of twos nooses inside of the sell. he noted they have nod blood of them. his body was removed from the jail sell which was against jail
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protocol. >> destroyed a lot of forensic evidence. ems is not supposed to remove dead bodies from jails. they're supposed to have a whole forensic work-up. what kind of forensic evidence is on the clothing. reporter: cbs news reports one of the cameras, neil, pointing towards epstein's jail cell door was not working that night. attorney general william barr said he personally viewed surveillance video himself showing no one entered the area where epstein was housed that night. neil? neil: just incredible. bryan, thank you very much. meanwhile the political sphere, michael bloomberg is spending a lot of money but a lot of candidates are not spending time directly attacking him with any of their money. there is a reason for that. charlie gasparino has more. >> what i'm hearing from sources connected with the warren campaign, connection with sanners there, is some communications. biden campaign, neil, they are
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muted in their criticisms of bloomberg so far. if you noticed do a clip search. i gotten from the sources of campaigns. i also did a clip search. seems like elizabeth warren appears to be only one might have said something, a couple weeks ago, sometime in december, about bloomberg buying the election. not exactly the most front attack you will get. she could have brought up stop-and-frisk in new york city. there is a lot of things she could bring up. she didn't. so, why are they doing that? quite frankly they think, couple things. that bloomberg's ad spending if you look at it, it has been largely directed at president trump, like taking him down several notches. also there is plenty of get-out-the-vote effort that he is spending. we're talking about 10, 15, $20 million get-out-the-vote in battleground states. all this according to people close to biden, people that are, close to, close to warren and know sanders, even other democrats in the race, they
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believe that is going to help them if they defeat -- neil: wonder how long that kumbayah approach lasts though, especially with him surging in the polls. one national poll he is third. >> it will all be, we'll see. if you notice something really interesting, the attacks on trump, you know, i remember ted cruz and other players were contemplating, jeb bush, massive attack ads on trump, carpet bombing him on his past bankruptcies all the other stuff, if you notice they really didn't do that when he was gaining -- neil: they thought he would go away? >> they thought he would go away or calculus wins, i want those voters, so i don't want to alienate them. neil: got it. >> there is some of that here. bloomberg is, if you look at it, he has been essentially touting a positive message in the campaign ads, not the attacks his rivals. touting a negative message on,
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trump positive on the prospects of electing a democrat. so, you know, i think they're playing it, they're playing ftse with him now -- unless he supports more tax cuts for the rich and if he alienates himself -- neil: all bets are off, that is where the odds. >> his betting, what i understand, people close to him, neil, his betting is that, him, this is what i find fascinating about bloomberg, getting people close to him. he wants to, he wants to defeat trump and i think he will do it even if warren gets elected. now that to me is fascinating because elizabeth warren stands for everything that mike bloomberg was against. mike bloomberg was fiscal conservative. neil: worst of them beats trump, right? >> he thinks the worst of them is better than trump. neil: rye. >> i don't know how he squares
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elizabeth warren's change in the economy on 180. neil: she would be going after him. >> you would think so, right. neil: charlie, thank you very, very much. we have a lot more, including what a cyberattack would look like from iran if one were ever to come after this. by consolidating your credit card debt into one monthly payment. and get your interest rate right so you can save big. get a no-fee personal loan up to $100k.
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neil: all right. right now, we are well off the worst levels of the day. the dow was close to 300 points, now down all of 52. a lot of the havens a lot of investors were running to, places like gold and oil, to a lesser degree bonds, that has been largely reversed, certainly well off the highs. gold up close to 25 bucks the ounce, now about 12 bucks the ounce. iran is threatening right now and that has a lot of people wondering what it would mean if iran were to follow through on
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those threats. president rouhani is tweeting never threaten iran and among the things he's citing are the fact that our country has a history of doing the very thing it cites in others, saying those who -- this is from rouhani, the number 52 i believe is referring to the 52 targets president trump is already counting on should iran do anything torrid should remember the number 290 and he is referring to the time in 1988 ronald reagan was president at the time when we shot down over the persian gulf that iranian airliner that ultimately killed 300 iranians were close to 300. that was then. reminder right now the iranians according to rouhani have patience but not extreme patience. hillary vaughn has the latest on other possible retaliatory measures that iran could take that go way beyond military. hillary? reporter: one of those is cyberattacks.
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iranian hackers are not just targeting the u.s. military our government entities. they have a habit of honing in on soft economic targets, too, like the financial sector. they could target banks or entire industries like airlines and utilities but also individual businesses. cyber experts tell us today no company is off limits from iran and they have a history of going after targets that they think will cause the most psychological disruption. >> we saw in 2012 them have an attack against the financial sector. we saw them in 2014 against the las vegas sands corporation. we have seen different examples of how they attack different companies' infrastructure so really, everything is a target right now. reporter: the department of homeland security issuing a national terrorism advisory bulletin warning that iran's cyberattack could strike at any moment. iran maintains a robust cyber program and at a minimum, they say they are capable of carrying out attacks against critical
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infrastructure here in the u.s. and it may have started already on saturday. a government website for the federal depository library program was defaced with pro-iranian and anti-u.s. messages. the u.s. cyber security and information security agency have not confirmed the hackers that hijacked that website are sponsored by iran. cyber security companies that monitor attacks say iran has been spiking activity against u.s. firms since the summer but right now, dhs says they are not aware of any specific credible threat against the u.s. and their acting secretary over the weekend says still, they are on high alert. neil: thank you very, very much. iraq's prime minister is just telling the u.s. ambassador to baghdad that both countries should work together on a withdrawal of american troops from that country. retired u.s. navy commander mark brenner on all of this. what do you make of this? >> i think the big point here is
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for a strategy and way ahead, we want to contain iran but we don't want to lead to the demise of iraq and a power vacuum. last time we had that, we got isis. we need to tread very carefully here. neil: you know, there is shock in this country about the iraqis' reaction, wanting our troops out. how widespread is that? the president already said you've got to pay us back for this multi-billion dollar base we built in your country and other facilities, to say nothing of the fact that we helped the rakes eradicahe r iraqis eradic problem and this is fine how do you do. what do you make of that? >> it's a complex question. there's a lot of legal negotiations that took place when we set up those bases and i think it would be fairly difficult to get the iraqis to pay us back. i think we have also heard the president talk about mexico paying for the border wall, and
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i think we have seen that that's a pretty difficult feat to achieve. neil: you think our troops do leave, though? they don't want us there, we can tell the iraqis you're on your own here, if you want to link up with iran, so be it? >> well, i don't think that's in our interest. let's recall that we've got, you know, military personnel, embassies, diplomats over there. we need to make sure we protect them and again, it's not in our interest, if we get voted off the island by iraq, and leave, then iran's the winner. let's also remember that that would give iranian influence right up to the doorstep of saudi arabia which would change the regional dynamics pretty significantly. neil: commander, thank you very, very much. we will keep watching this fast-moving development. as i said, the iranians have said they will avenge this killing of this general. the question is how. we talked about all the options that are out there so far,
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precious little word coming forward what they may be considering. meanwhile, other news is going on. the white house trade adviser peter navarro insisting a trade deal with the mexicans and canadians is close to being a done deal. take a look. >> we are going to get that passed as early as friday or monday. maria: wow. you think this could head to the president's desk within a week? >> it absolutely could. neil: what could that mean if they get something like that? does it offset any black swan developments we are getting from the middle east? former adviser to president barack obama robert wolf on what happens then. good to see you. what do you think? >> nice to see you. i was a member of the president's export council which was bipartisan. i was a supporter of tpp, absolutely supporter of -- neil: trans-pacific -- >> trans-pacific partnership. i'm a supporter of nafta 2.0. if we had an up or down vote today, it would pass. the only gop senator against it is toomey.
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you actually had elizabeth warren say she would support it so you have new environmental standards, labor standards, better for privacy, better for auto, whole lot -- neil: a whole lot of democrats are afraid to give victory to the president. >> like i said, the house passed it, the senate would pass it with i think bipartisan legislation. i'm disappointed that senator mcconnell has not brought it forward. it would show congress can do more things at once. with respect to what's going on in iran and what it means for the markets, you said it today. there was a flight to quality with respect to as oil goes up, you get inflation. therefore, all of a sudden people are buying gold. normally in war, manufacturing does better, manufacturing has contracted. neil: it's been a tepid response. you remind me things could change, i get that, but i'm more interested from all the candidates running for president right now, to a man and woman, they made great political hay of
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that, i understand that, but where do you see this sorting out? joe biden has saying he threw in a stick of dynamite. what do you think? >> i don't think anyone is mourning over the death of suleimani. let's be clear. he was a bad guy. i think that being said, no one wants to go back to having a 15-year war, us spending trillions of dollars and having military men and women in harm's way. i think that there's a nervousness everywhere. listen, you and i spoke over a decade. the reason i backed obama over clinton was i was not hawkish. i was not for the iraq war then. i'm not for war today. neil: we really can't extract ourselves. >> we're going on since september 11th, it's been a continuous war and even before that, the persian gulf and that was in the early '90s. at what point do we say no mas? neil: you think politically it resonates with people back home? they don't know the details of a lot of this but people are saying this guy killed hundreds
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of american soldiers, thousands of iraqis, he's dead, the world is a better place with him dead. you're saying it's not that simple. >> i don't think it's that simple. i listened to the shows all weekend, right before, after my patriots lost, i figured i would listen to talking heads shows all weekend and it felt to me we are in a more polarizing environment than we have ever been. usually war, whether people are for or against, they surround each other and kind of vote usa. today, i think it's important that the president does go to congress, does make sure that they are aware what his actionable plan is. i think you had over the weekend secretary pompeo say one thing, very different than what the president said. neil: democrats still say all right, we support what you did. >> i would hope if there was real proof that there's an actionable plan to hurt americans that we all support that. neil: real quick, if you don't mind, i'm ping-ponging here, on the democratic race, how do you think it's looking? joe biden is third in the
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national poll and there are a lot of people -- >> first in the national. neil: third in the national, i thought. >> third in iowa and new hampshire. neil: bottom line, he's gaining. so let me ask you this. do you think that he's counting on a brokered convention or at least a failed first ballot that opens the flood gates to him? >> as dems, none of us want a brokered convention. that means we won't know who the candidate is until probably august. that means there's a lot of fractured environment. the last brokered convention in the early '90s was not necessarily good for the party. i think right now, what we are seeing is biden feels like the national frontrunner. it feels like bernie has momentum in iowa and new hampshire and with mayor pete -- neil: they all have a lot of money. >> then we have obviously mayor bloomberg, who i heard with you and charlie, he can be incredibly disruptive. today it feels like we are getting back to electability and with foreign policy, the truth is, vice president biden, when foreign policy is at the
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forefront, he is absolutely the one who feels like will gain the momentum. there was a poll taken that he is viewed as the top democrat when it comes to foreign policy, getting along with other allies and so on, so forth. neil: he's betting on regardless of doing well in iowa, new hampshire -- >> north carolina and nevada. neil: it didn't work out too well for him. what makes you think it would work out well -- >> because it feels like there will be at least four people, four candidates that will get north of 15% in iowa which means it's going to be all kinds of close. new hampshire, you know warren and bernie will do well. they neighbor it. it feels like biden will do okay. then you go to south carolina, where he's north of 50%. neil: -- president obama disappointed ain how joe biden s doing? >> no, i don't think the president is getting involved in primaries. neil: you think he's surprised he's having the difficulty he is? >> no, because one year away he came in as the front-runner and today you would still say he's the front-runner.
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neil: all these ramblings and performances -- >> listen, to quote president obama, i think this circular firing squad does not help our party. neil: that's very good. very good seeing you again, my friend. meantime, i hate to say this, with my good friend here but the patriots are out of the playoffs. now a lot of people are saying tom brady, come to our team. after this. knowing we're prepared for the future. surprise! we renovated the guest room, so you can live with us. i'm good at my condo well planned, well invested, well protected. voya. be confident to and through retirement.
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could get out of brady. the new england patriots may be done for the season but tom brady, certainly not ready to call it quits. the quarterback calling retoorment as he just hear retirement as you just heard there, pretty unlikely. some say brady is the best quarterback of all time, should keep playing the game if he can. that's the big question. doesn't seem to be aging as most normal human beings do so he's got a future there. what are the risks, though? >> a lot of risk. when you're that age, 43 years old playing in the national football league, you are playing with grown men and tom has been able to, you know, see the game so slow compared to the other players because he's been running the same system his entire career. he has the organization around him and even though he really has probably one of the worst receiving corps in all of football, he doesn't have a lot of weapons around him but he's continued to win.
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i would hate to see him go to another team. i think he should stay and play for the new england patriots if he decides to do so because he knows that system and if you put him in a different system and all of a sudden, he's taking unnecessary hits at his age and dealing with a new coaching staff, i don't think that would be smart. neil: the way i look at it, it seems very likely he would stay with the patriots. i think they would risk a great deal if they looked like they didn't want to keep him. what do you think of that? >> they would have a huge risk. to come in and you would really be starting from scratch because you have to get rid of a lot of your players. you know, when you build an nfl team, you build them around your quarterback. so a lot of these players are specifically put on that team to help out tom brady and to be able to, you know, play in that system, play in that offense and if you bring a new quarterback in, all those things change. so you think from the patriots' perspective, they were really one play away from winning the playoff game. it's not like they got beat badly. they had a big dropped pass by
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edelman that i think ended up costing them. neil: yeah. debate about it but the fact they make the playoffs every year says something, too. let me switch gears. i would be curious your take on colin kaepernick accusing this country of targeting minorities after the killing of this iranian general, suleimani. what did you make of that? >> you know, this is more of the convenient social justice. i talked about this before. america has a horrible history with slavery, jim crow, civil rights bills, but we made progress so whenever we have influences like colin, and i don't disagree with everything colin says, on this one he's missing the boat. they talk out both sides of their mouths here because they talk about social justice but colin kaepernick won't admit that the president of the united states actually has passed criminal justice reform that's gone against mass incarceration of blacks. he's gone in, this president has given more money to historical
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black colleges and universities than any president in history. colin kaepernick ignores the fact that this president has passed a stimulus package with opportunity zones to bring billions of dollars into the black community. so if you are going to bash the president, which you have every right to do so, you got to also admit when he's doing things right for black and brown people. if you want to go on the front lines and fight for black and brown people, i'm right here with you. i'm in these inner cities and helping these communities that kids are suffering. i'm helping black communities all around the world. join me, colin. join me. let's do that. but we can't just pick and choose when things fit our political agenda. we want to bring sight to issues that match us but we don't give credit where credit is due. we got to stop that. this is exactly what's triggering a black awakening in america. i'm telling you. neil: i hear you are an amazing player, big athlete, great humanitarian but you check all the boxes on being on top of all this stuff. it makes me very envious of you
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so i want to end this interview right now. seriously, great job, my friend. always learn a lot talking to you. >> thanks so much, neil. that's humbling. i appreciate it. god bless you and your family. neil: you as well. he just says it. just says it. just gets it. these pictures and images just show what's going on in australia right now. fires that are out of control and the government now saying it will do whatever it takes to get them under control. problem is, they are not under control. a live report is coming up. my body is truly powerful. i have the power to lower my blood sugar and a1c. because i can still make my own insulin. and trulicity activates my body to release it like it's supposed to. trulicity is for people with type 2 diabetes. it's not insulin. i take it once a week. it starts acting in my body from the first dose. trulicity isn't for people with type 1 diabetes or diabetic ketoacidosis. don't take trulicity if you're allergic to it, you or your family have medullary thyroid cancer,
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neil: all right. now, american firefighters are on the ground in australia to help deal with these wildfires. jeff paul is in new south wales with the latest. jeff? reporter: yeah, we finally got some rain and cooler temperatures here in some of the hardest hit areas of australia by these bush fires but authorities are now warning that that weather likely won't last and we will probably get some
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warming temperatures in the next few days, and when that happens, firefighters are worried that many of these fires that they had sort of gotten under control, that they will reignite when the warmer temperatures move through the area. we might again see what happened last week when some fires burned so hot, they created their own thunderstorms and lightning. more than 135 fires are still burning in the state of new south wales alone, nearly 70 are not contained. countrywide, these fires have torched more land than twice the size of maryland. 2,000 homes so far destroyed in the fires that started back in september and for those who have escaped, often the fast, unpredictable flames, they are now facing the tough reality that they have lost everything. >> my family home, my kids' family home, now my grandkids, i don't know how they are going to understand what has happened but everything is gone.
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we've got nothing. reporter: help is now arriving from all over the globe, including the united states. a second group of u.s. forest service firefighters landed in australia less than 24 hours ago and in total, there will be about 100 here helping. the latest group is from southern california, an area all too familiar with wildfires. >> the current situation is extreme. there's a lot of people that have been at it for -- since september, in october, through november, so people are tired. we are here to actually relieve and try to lend a hand and give those folks the rest they direly need. reporter: wildlife is something that in this area is treasured and it's so unique to australia. that also is being devastated. many now doing their best to shelter, feed and rehabilitate as many koalas, kangaroos and other critters as possible. some estimates put the number of animals killed at half a billion but many are stepping up,
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including the family of the late australian wildlife expert steve irwin who reportedly saved up to 90,000 animals and one other thing. the prime minister here who has come under some fire for his response to the bush fires just announced he's pledging 1.4 billion in recovery efforts. neil: thank you, jeff, very much. jeff paul in australia. meanwhile, harvey weinstein in court today for what could be a very long and historic criminal trial. we are outside the courthouse with the very latest. reporter: well, we certainly have a lot going on here in new york but i want to share some breaking news we are receiving out of los angeles in california. the prosecutors there are set to make a major announcement within the next hour, bringing a new criminal indictment in california against harvey weinstein. we are waiting to find out more about that but we know he's been investigated for similar charges. back here, while the trial that is set to take place here soon
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does not involve all of the accusers, that have been, you know, people that have been coming forward since october of 2017, and that is nearly 90 women, this is a very big deal because this is really the kickoff. today there were a lot of pretrial motions. i want to show you some tape of him arriving in court today. he arrived using a walker and needing assistance. today's hearing focused on pretrial issues involving witnesses and evidence discovery. the trial is the only criminal case right now to come from the long list of allegations facing the once powerful hollywood producer. weinstein faces five charges which revolve around different alleged incidents with two women in 2006 and 2013. weinstein has maintained that all of his relationships were consensual and today his legal team says they are ready. >> we are here hoping to pick and find a fair jury, and we believe that that's going to be possible, and we are going to continue to press on and remind
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everyone that in this great country, you are innocent until proven guilty. reporter: prosecutors want to call several witnesses to show what they call a pattern of misconduct as dozens of accusers wait to see if weinstein will face the justice they say he has long escaped. several of them holding a news conference outside of court today, rose mcgowan and roseanna arquette among them. >> dear harvey, no matter what lies you tell yourself, you did this. today, lady justice is staring down a super predator, you. you brought this upon yourself by hurting so many. you have only yourself to blame. reporter: jury selection begins tomorrow morning. that's a process that could take a couple of weeks before we see the opening statements. again, waiting for that news coming from los angeles in the next hour. back to you. neil: laura, thank you very much. in the meantime, this was
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if she continues to refuse to send the articles as required by the constitution, i would work with senator mcconnell to change the rules of the senate so we could start the trial without her if necessary. neil: all right. senator lindsey graham issuing an ultimatum at nancy pelosi, could this impeachment drag not only into the 2020 primaries but well beyond. to former reagan campaign manager ed rollins on the risk that could backfire. good to see you. what do you think? >> well, you've got four senators that are going to be jurors and they are viable candidates for the nomination of the democratic party and they don't want this thing to drag on. they don't want to spend two or three weeks listening to a trial and everything they say will basically have an impact on their campaign. my sense is the quicker they get this thing started, the quicker they get it over with. neil: could it also hit republicans? by that i mean all you need is a simple majority to get witnesses. say all 47 dems push for that. you need four republicans.
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>> right. neil: that's an uphill climb. >> that's a real uphill climb. you can go out, i would like to see the process a little differently but when mcconnell puts the hammer down and basically says what's your alternative, you know, particularly now that we have this serious situation in the middle east, the idea that a president of the united states is going to be going through an impeachment process when there's no crime, the fact he wouldn't hold a meeting or the fact he basically withheld money for a couple months is not an impeachable offense. i think to a certain extent, that becomes clearer and clearer as people go on. neil: if you don't mind switching gears, we had robert wolf, big democratic money man, very close friend of barack obama, close friend of joe biden, he thinks that this talk of a brokered convention is way too premature for the democrats. he thinks joe biden with a strong performance on super tuesday in march does win or
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likely wins -- >> well, anybody with a strong performance on super tuesday would certainly become the frontrunner. neil: if you do lousy in iowa and new hampshire, doesn't that hurt you? >> hurts you terribly. equally as important, the democrats now have this 15% rule so you've got four or five candidates in there who have the money, have the money all the way, bernie sanders is not going to go away, elizabeth warren is not going to go away, and they basically, you could end up with a contested primary and equally as important, super delegates don't get to vote until the second time. neil: until the second ballot. that's what people like bloomberg are hoping for, that it goes to second ballot. do you think it will? >> i don't think it will at the end of the day. i think someone will emerge but i can't tell you who that is at this point in time because everything i know about politics which is 50 years of learning -- neil: not too shabby. >> no, but whoever thought you would have a couple billionaires spending unlimited sums of money on television or that you would have two socialists that are front leading the democratic party.
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so -- neil: the biggest threat to the president right now, joe biden or michael bloomberg? who would it be? >> i this i tnk the biggest thr if bloomberg would be the nominee, he obviously would have the resources and they would play against each other but i think the president would kill him. i worry about elizabeth warren. i think women are a very significant force here and they didn't turn out in the record numbers they should have for hillary. she may be able to energize them before all is said and done. whoever gets young voters, no one in this group is going to put the coalition that obama did back together again. you got to get close to it if you want to be viable. i would bet heavy on trump at this point in time. neil: interesting. ed, i always learn a lot. thank you, my friend. meantime, must be something ed said because we are well off our lows of the day. the dow was down close to 300 points, is now down 14.5 points. we are calling this the rollins rally. stay with us. thinkorswim?
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neil: all right. i never thought of mcdonald's as a party place but the new ceo is taking steps to make the golden arches act more i guess professional. grady trimble has the latest on that. reporter: neil, the new ceo spent the last couple of months listening to employees. now he's calling for a renewed commitment to the company's core values after getting feedback about company culture. that culture under former ceo steve easterbrook reportedly included senior managers staying out late, partying and drinking, as well as hanging out with rank and file employees in what was described as a guys' club environment. easterbrook himself was also accused of flirting with female employees to the point that it made them uncomfortable. this all according to unnamed sources in a "wall street journal" article. easterbook was replaced by a new ceo for having a consensual relationship with an employee late last year and now the new ceo has spent the last eight or nine weeks meeting with
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employees at forums in the u.s. and other countries. he said in one of them he would shake up and remove senior leadership if they don't personify the company's values. he also asked for feedback through a survey and today, sent a letter to employees once again stressing those values. take a look at mcdonald's stock over the last few months. it's been steadily climbing since the new ceo took the reins in september but it has a long way to get to the $220 per share it was at last summer. operationally, though, he plans to keep a lot of the same plans that easterbrook had including improving technology at stores and just trying to get more foot traffic into mcdonald's restaurants. neil? neil: thank you very, very much, my friend. meantime, we told you about stocks have now pared virtually all their losses from earlier on. a lot of that flight to safe havens like gold and oil, even bonds, has dissipated. what are we to make of that? mike murphy joins us now, rosecliff founder, marathon runner, he's everything.
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this guy does it all. mike, help me with this. what the markets seem to be saying about, i don't know whether you want to call the iranian stuff a black swan development but it does not seem to be received that way. so far. >> absolutely, neil. i think what you want to look at is people are focusing on u.s. earnings and what the impact of the potential conflict in iran will have or could have on u.s. earnings. there was some fear early this morning as you saw oil spike, but now oil is coming back a little bit. the markets have come all the way back. i think when you look out for -- if you even want to look out for the next year of 2020, right now where we stand, this isn't going to have a major impact on your portfolio. you can stay long, stay invested. neil: what are you looking for this year? normally the year after a big double digit gain is tepid by comparison. there is the complexity of a presidential election year. while generally a good year, we can remember some like in 2000 and 2008 that were anything but.
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what are you looking for? >> i'm looking for companies that can show consistent growth. you just talked about mcdonald's. mcdonald's had a shakeup in management and seem to be getting the ship that was going in the right direction over the last few years back on that course. it's names like disney, mcdonald's. i want to focus on large cap u.s. based companies that can really benefit if the u.s. economy stays as strong as it has been, or even gets a little bit stronger. neil: mike murphy, always a pleasure. happy new year. appreciate it. >> happy new year. neil: bernie sanders is making waves in new hampshire right now. he could win the state. of course, he's a neighboring senator there. the senator is also in a tight three-way race with joe biden, mayor pete buttigieg in iowa. to charles payne on why that worries him, not just because of the candidates but the impact their surge could be having on health care stocks. good to see you. what's the worry? charles: thank you very much. if you remember, i guess it seems a long time ago, when elizabeth warren experienced a surge, we saw a certain sector
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of the stock market, particularly health care, get walloped. it got destroyed. since then it's come charging back. now we have bernie sanders who is becoming another juggernaut. he held pretty strong, he gained strength and now listen, he wasn't even on a map in iowa and warren was beating him in new hampshire. he raised the most money. i think he's got the most conviction of his beliefs of all of them and i think he is going to have the momentum. if that's the case, you will start seeing wall street react, just hedge itself a little bit. neil: he is the genuine article. you can disagree or agree with his views but he's had them for decades. i remember covering him when he was mayor of burlington, vermont. those views are identical to the views he shares decades later. he's the genuine article. a lot of people fear if he were the nominee, regardless of the concern it would have for those who hold health care stocks, it's just not going to happen, the president would beat him by a country mile. we know consensus can be very
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very risky, just think of those who were dismissing donald trump. what are your thoughts on that? charles: it's the establishment versus the upstarts, right? even though bernie sanders has been in d.c. for several decades, he's considered to be an outsider, certainly his policies as you just mentioned are not establishment democrat establishment, but i don't think it's up to the establishment anymore. you know, many people think he got robbed last time around. the super delegates won't come into play unless there's some kind of brokered convention. in the meantime, he will keep reminding you that i wrote the bill, damn it. neil: get off my lawn. charles, look forward to seeing you in about 15 minutes. in the meantime, ricky gervais sending a hard message to hollywood. >> apple rolled into the tv game with a morning show, a superb drama. yeah. superb drama about the importance of dignity and doing
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neil: well, hollywood elites are not the only ones spared from ricky gervais' golden globes gripe last night. take a look at this. apple rolled into the tv game with a morning show, a superb drama. yeah. a superb drama about the importance of dignity and doing the right thing, made by a company that runs sweatshops in china. but the companies you work for, unbelievable. apple, amazon, disney. if isis started a streaming service, you would call your agent. neil: that was just for
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starters. to fox news 24/7 reporter. people are so surprised when they hear hollywood types bashing hollywood types. the golden globes knew what they were getting in him and they got it, right? >> i thought it was really fascinating to see how many uncomfortable faces there were in the room. it struck me that he wasn't playing to the audience in the room. he was really performing for the larger audience watching at home and even probably thought it was funny. compare that to what patricia arquette and michelle williams did, they got political with their acceptance speeches. neil: they were among the only ones who did. >> they were, but i really feel like they did that to play to the smaller audience in the room because they knew they were going to get praise from the media and stuff like that, and they are today. neil: where does this all, you know, fall out, because i can look at this and say maybe this is the way the oscars go, i guess they won't have a host per se. i'm wondering can this change
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future awards shows, maybe they look at the ratings when they come out and say this is what we will do from now on, what do you think? >> yeah, it's been really interesting watching all of the left-leaning outlets kind of asking questions this morning, like do you think ricky went too far, was it too offensive and everyone saying no, this is what we have been wanting, all we wanted is for hollywood to kind of abide by this. there's no safe spaces in comedy. that's fine if they want to make fun of middle america, of average americans, of conservatives, but you have to be willing to point that finger back at yourself and ricky nailed it. entertainment weekly asked today, they said do you like what rimy did as a host or was it offensive and 80% of people said yes, i liked it. it will be really interesting to see if they get him invited back to host more stuff. neil: if it doesn't work out he might want to consider this. a new study shows that 38% of adults cannot fix a single
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household -- >> oh, no. neil: -- product without using google. that amazes me. >> i'm a big googler myself. but i'm okay with this sort of change. it's evolution. neil: there's nothing wrong with that. >> no. i just thought this is an extreme example but think about when mankind was transitioning from the hunter-gathererer phase, you think the older generation was like my son can't hunt a buffalo with a spear anymore? what the heck? it's a natural progression of things and that is okay. neil: i don't have a problem with it, but a lot of people are saying it's a sad commentary on man and womankind. i don't know. what do you think? >> carli is so much better than me. i actually don't even google how to do this stuff. i just won't do it. i will hold it all up together and i will have a big to-do list and make my boyfriend, like whenever he's over or my dad whenever he comes to visit me do it all for me. i just won't. i have no idea how to do any of the things.
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patch drywall? you kidding me? >> i was like what's drywall? neil: i think it's a way for kids to bypass their parents. i was going to teach my son how to tie a tie. that was going to be a bonding moment. it's gone. what can you do? >> you should google task rabbit really quickly. they will come over to your house or apartment and do it for you. neil: really? >> oh, yeah. yeah. i use the app takl. i hire someone -- they will hang a picture for me. like something as simple as that. i'm paying someone else to do it. neil: we are a service economy, ladies. krispy kreme is trying to keep folks, keep to their new year's resolutions by offering mini doughnuts. i guess fewer calories? >> yeah, the mini doughnuts have 90 calories. neil: they don't have maxi doughnuts. >> no. but obviously, you are a fan, too. which is 180 calories which is way more than the regular doughnut which is 120, which
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surprisingly is low calorie in my opinion. neil: so the mini doughnut has how many? >> 90. neil: all right. [ speaking simultaneously ] neil: do we know? they are not dunkin' munchkins, right? >> they are a little bit smaller than a regular doughnut. so actually, i was thinking about this. i was like okay, part of this is kind of evil because dunkin' or sorry, krispy kreme knows all these people are starting their new year's resolutions and trying to lose weight so they're like okay, nobody will be buying our product, what can we do? we will try to market as these are lower calorie. they are preying on poor people that have really low willpower to eat the doughnuts and like okay, they are low calorie but not if you eat 16 of them like. you know? >> definitely. neil: funny how you would say 16. anyway, it is weird, though, how they try to -- people go on
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diets and get in shape and all and this is the way -- >> well, i sort of assume we were going to have krispy kreme on set. neil: i advocated for it. we are not going to do that. they are not going to do that. that's fine. what were you saying? my producer was telling me, very thin producer -- >> i'm not there. i don't get to eat any. neil: if we had the producers i was looking for, looked like john candy. ladies, thank you both very, very much. meantime, the parent company of kfc, while still on the subject of food and taco bell, moving into the burger business. yum brands apparently acquiring a burger chain with a cult following. where calories are included. after this. at fidelity, online u.s. stocks and etfs are commission-free. and when you open a new brokerage account,
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neil: take you to the corner of wall and broad before i happened it to my buddy charles payne. we were positive briefly. getting close to being that way. remarkable when which were down almost 300 points but a lot of this is a big comeback for the markets. also, we're seeing tim cook leading remarkable year for his company right now and very, very optimistic where he sees things going. a lot of people making big deal over the fact that his overall compensation is the latest year is $10 million less than before. i have to position it that does not include the runup in the value of the stocks that he holds. means tens of millions of more that he holds in that stock just by virtue of it. i think it was about a 50% runup on the year. putting that in perspective, no one is crying for tim cook outside of maybe last night at the golden globes when he was fingered by ricky gervais. that is neither here nor there. what is happening this year
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growing talk that apple is under enormous pressure to sustain all of that with new gadgets, gizmos, opportunities. to early to tell. it goes into the year with a robust gain. one at least hopes will continue. now to charles payne. hey, charles. charles: busy doing a gofundme page for tim cook. neil: come on, right? come on. charles: he will be okay. neil: i think so. charles: thank you very much. good afternoon, everyone, i'm charles payne. this is "making money." breaking now the market grinding away after the dow opened down 200 points as investors attempt to factor in all the sabre-rattling from the united states and iran and what comes next. we get into effects on the market. what is the best hedge for you now? some are talking gold, bonds oil. what about cybersecurity stocks? we bo over all of that. plus -- >> if you do win an award tonight, don't use it as a platform to make a political speech, right? you're in no position to lecture the public about anything. you know nothing about the real

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