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melissa: i love space. a great story on end on, and the market going higher, i will see you at 6 p.m. connell: you are on "evening edit," "bulls and bears" starts right now. david: mid east tensions grow, iranians take to streets protesting deaths of top general and terrorist by u.s. air strike. and president trump imposing a new threat to iran if they retaliate. we have a live report from baghdad. despite this, media panic. visitors are taking it in -- investors take it in stride. the market takes a big bounce back off of the lows, dow ending up 68, after mending most of the day in red, this is "bulls and bears" thank you for joining us, happy new year, i am david david asman, joining me, jonathan hoenig, kevin oleary, kristina
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partsinevelos and john bernet, we had to baghdad with trey on the latest. reporter: good afternoon. a lot of new tension here in baghdad after 3 rockets were fired into 1 the green zone last night, everyone waiting to see what tonight will bring. funerals got underway in tehran for soleimani, the man who was killed outside of baghdad initial friday morning -- baghdad international airport friday morning, many vowing to respond, calling on government and regime to take decisive action again the u.s. we heard from the daughters of soleimani, who made a direct threat against americans. listen to what she had to say. >> families of the american soldiers in western asia have
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witnessed america's humiliation. and will spend their days waiting for death of their children. reporter: today we saw iraqi prime minister meet with the u.s. ambassador to iraq they were discussing issue of american troops on the ground in iraqi territory, more than 5,000 american servicemembers, mostly helping iraqi service forces in the fight against isis, yesterday. parliament votessed to remove all american troops from iraq. but it does not appear there will be a clean timeline on when tensions remain high. we saw site where soleimani was actually targeted by the drone. we'll wait and see what happens in the coming days. and what decisions might be made by the trump administration.
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david: trey yingst live in baghdad, stay safe, thank you. markets are basically lugging off the the mid east tensions, why are investors taking it in stride? >> go back in history, this area has been under conflict for two decades. what is different this time, is real playing out in global markets, you are not going to see oil at 100 dollars, production in u.s. is so bountiful, the threat of having conflict in oil producing region does not matter to u.s. domestic markets any more, it played itself to asian markets the same
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way, i like to talk to the swiss every time there is a conflict, they control so much fund glowing, i spent my weekend talking with my sources there. done even move the nee needle. david: wow. >> they continue to glow funds to europe and north america, they think we'll get 8% if we're lucky out of the market. that sun usual, because the -- that is unusual, the swiss are really conservative had. this was a specific strike, this shows new technology, new munnitions, you can take someone out in an airport without doing a lot of collateral damage, i am not saying it is pro or con, but this is not 100,000 men on the ground, this is an aircraft controlled probably from jacksonville, florida, that took out a target. and rest of the world understands how that works, if the administration will target on more up to 52 more it will be done the same, it not the threat of 100,000 troops moving into the region.
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at least at-this-point. that is why the mark so the note affected. >> we're seeing american companies affected chevron removing american employees the location, they are taking out employees from iraq. there has been rumors about strait of hormuz. a narrow passage way between iran and oman but i do not believe it would be a target, it was a point of contention in may and june of lest -- last year. your question regarding why markets are shrugging it off, it has to do with federal reserve, the fed has been supporting this market for some time, interests to so how they pull themselve out without -- i think we're ignoring their presence. >> federal reserve supported market first 10 years of the milmill in-- millennial, but tat
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used to move on warnings. why, it is easy to figure out how much hugo huggie walmart wil sell, aopposed to what the mola in iran of going to do, even market strong this is a great opportunity to get your official house in order. david: good advice. >> if your credit card is paid off you are a better investor when news like this hits. david: i think that investors make a calculus, they look at iranian economy, that is in sham shambles right now, they realize if they fight a minor war from our perspective, it would kill the iranian economy. and the when you look at the bin laden situation, he was taken
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out oil did actually spike. >> and he said you know, what oil refinery, businesses, they are actually already plan this in for q1 after the attack. the dynamics, the economics thing are different. >> i think they are discounting that investors are discounting possibility of war for reasons that i outline with john. >> i don't that this is an attempt to change regime. we'll have same tensions on going, but it will be more calculated, i actually on have energy as a top sector for this next 12 months. david: have you been holding to it through the weekend? >> it has been dead money for 10
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years, i am adding to it. i did my quarter end adjustments i like it i hear a new discipline with ceos too reduce capax and return more capital to the shareholder. >> kevin, the markets has been on fire for 10 years, you talk about iranian threats, at what point do you think something like this, news like this is an excuse for investors to take profits off the table, could war with iran be an excuse to sell risk -- >> it should have been. it is not enough of an issue yet, if you deploy capital. i have got to put money to work, where do i put it? right now u.s., do domestic lare caps look good. >> i was at new york stock exchange reporting there, today, given the news of the strikes we had manufacturing numbers come out in december, we're seeing 5
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months of declines. and yet none really affected the market, a stock they was looking at was lufthansa. a lot of airline, oil goes up it costs them more. i think overall, i will bring it back to fed, we put so much emphasis on monetary policy over fiscal policy, now that we entered an election year that will add to volatility, i do believe as for investors, and again, i am not one with fund or anything, i think going forward -- don't laugh. going forward you to having more cautious it will be more volatile. >> whatever the conflict is to your point, the way we fight wars now is different. right, in terms of drone strikes, not boots on ground. but to your other point, with regard to iran, the -- their. david: there economy in sham bowles.
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shambles. >> and forth coming sanctions this is a doctors era. -- this is a differenter athey are threatening cyber attacks. to use a business term, barriers of entry to war have just been lowered. david: for all sides, do you really think one-on-one us with united states, with our techies again iran. who'll win that one. >> you look at this, i would not be surprised if iran joins forces behind scene with operatives in russia and china. david: we did talk about that last week, but i don't think they have a chance against our forces to kickback. >> u.s. military is unmatched as opposed to iran, but they are up against the wall, you said their economy is in shambles. unfortunately this is not a society or certainly not an administration in iran that deals with reason, these people
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are the ones that strap suicide bombs -- >> well, jonathan, i would argue with a little bit. these mullahs don't want to lose their position, there is a past, we push back in the past, ronald reagan destroyed about a third of their navy, they shut up, they clammed up for about a decade, they do respond to push back. >> to david's point, they actually know how to do path, they know 44 plus one equals 45. david: leave it at that, house to vote on a war powers resolution this week as u.s. irk iraq and iran trade threats, we'll ask congress ma congressms what he makes of the rising tensions, that is coming next. as a struggling actor, i need all the breaks that i can get. at liberty butchemel... cut.
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david: president trump taking a hard-line, threatening iraq with sanctions, and stating that iran will quote never have an nuclear weapon, but iran president, rouhani firing back, saying never threaten the iranian nation. congressman jim banks is joining us now. i just down get it. soleimani arrives in baghdad. inned did of -- dead of night, a country he has killed hundreds of americans, and where u.s. embassy is under siege by people under his control, we take him out, and people in the beltway are questioning whether we had authority or whether there was an imminent threat, can you explain. >> i don't get it either, secretary esper is surprised that anyone would be surprised we took out one of the worst
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guys on the planet, number two on the target list that president trump is the first president to have guts to take him out. no one should be surprise, bee forecasted -- we forecasted every step of the way we would holhold soleimani accountable. in president trump took him out when an imminent threat was on the table, today we're better off, and safer because of president trump's leadership. as a veteran myself and member of armed service committee, i am grateful for this type of leadership. >> we hear democratic rhetoric in terms of he was a bad guy, but he killed americans, but -- you know they need to get their bbut out of the way so president trump could do what he needs to do. what else is president do there are than sanctions. >> he has to handle that
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situation. you know to reduce those threats internationally, but what can he do to reel the democrats in and work with them going forward. >> there are some democrat on capitol hill, who just are fully unwilling to work with this president, i remember before the president authorized this strike on soleimani, question that many democrats were asking, why wasn't president tougher to iran, then the day he took out soleimani it is, the president's sending us to world war iii. they are not consistent across the board, some are unwilling to work with this commander in chief, president has made clear the way his strategy is related to where we are going with iran, a 3 part strategy, a diplomatic part, an economic part of the strategy with sanctions, then military part. that threefold strategy, is put together with focus of bringing
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iran back to the table on so we can negotiate a deal with iran that will prevent them freffer r getting nuclear weapons. the president has been clear about that. and his tough actions over the past few days, have proved he is willing to do what it takes. >> congressman thank you for your service, and to these serving now. i want to ask you about what you say about president's strategy not a part, however is regime change. why not? if this is a country that has been targeting americans, killing them for boater part of 40 years. >> the president has every option on table. the president's approach to foreign policy is not lost on anyone, a realist foreign policy approach versus the approach of past administrations to get us
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into to long-term never ending wars in the middle east, the president does not want this it is different. at end of the day, putting a strangle hol hold on the iranian economy, which is working, their economy is in read and sinking further every day. that maximum pressure campaign is working, putting type of pressure on iran to bring them back to the table, i believe only a matter of time before iran comes to their senses, comes back to table to works with this administration to strike a better deal. >> i have been watching this region as investor for decades, historically you would not see a general, a second tier player in region, particularly one who used proxies all of the time, i mean, he was always trying to keep himself arm's length from actual conflicts. he has been very successful, all
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of a sudden, this is a complete change in policy, we have taken out a second tier general, we don't care he has a proxy armed length reap, h relationship, hes gone, for investor this is new, is this a new -- you think about it froms administration's policy, should i start thinking about other proxy players in the same way? they now have a new risk they never had in the past? >> i think that is a good way to put it what this president did and authorizes a strike and taking out soleimani, holding most ultimate way accountable for his actions whether directly or through proxy groups in the region, i believe is most appropriate response to his activities, that is the big picture. president is not getting us into another war. he is reacting to provocations of soleimani of the iranian regime, which has last week killed an american contractor,
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harmed a number of our troops, directly through their actions. through propped up proxy groups in region, very fact that soleimani of the in iraq to begin with, shows you he was up to no good, a part of activities against the interest of america, and our allies. -- the president's approach is the right one. david: i want to get your reaction to a little bit of tape we have from president obama's own dhs secretary. department of homeland security jeh johnson spiking about without soleimani was proper military target. >> he was a terrorist or a general in a military force that was engaged in armed attacks again our people, he was a lawful military o objective. david: have you a democrat with a prestigious background saying
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he was a proper military targets, how much longer will the democrats keep saying he was not. >> it is very interesting it is good to hear secretary johnson a change today. general petraeus, others agree this is the right way to go, i'm not sure you will hear that from democrats in washington d.c. today to a larger part because they are fully unwilling to work with this president. david: congressman, jim banks thank you so much. >> thank you. david: appreciate it, more than 12 million acres have already been burned in australia, officials warn that flames couls worsen with no end in sight, we have latest on where it is going next. card debt into one monthly payment. and get your interest rate right so you can save big. get a no-fee personal loan up to $100k.
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david: these fires have been rav ravaging millions of acres in australia, the flames will burn for mans. jovjeff paul on the ground there how does it look? reporter: last few days, weather has worked in the favor of firefighters on the front line. the sun is coming out. over next few days, authoritieses are worried about the temperatures warming up, when that happens, the fire risk goes up. the main concern is some of the spots that have burned they are still smoldering, it can carry embers to other spots, and start more of the bushfires that have devastated this area, the number are staggering 12 million acres burned so far, that is roughly double size of state of maryland. we're know that about 2000 homes
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have been destroyed. that number could go up, there are months left of bushfire season here in australia. you talk with folks who have lived in these areas, they say they it not have much time to get out. >> like a hurricane, just bloody quick, and you know. the noise was like a bloody jet engine. it was just roar of the wind. reporter: in terms of business dollars, we're in an area on the coast, many of the business owners rely on tourism dollars for hotels, restaurants, whale watching and wildlific morin ecy ploring -- exploring a that the take a hit as well. david: these fires a few months ago in california, now their
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real estate market takes a hit, fire insurance skyrockets, buyers finding it harder to find any insurance. kristina what needs to be done? >> they have a fair plan in california that does allow people too get coverage to 1.5 million, in itself there is no theft involved, it is concerning you, in october alone there were 16 wildfires in the region. insurance companies in 2017 and 18 within california area, paid out 24 billion dollars. this is an issue that is getting worse and worse. that brings up question, a topical one for 2020, given the climate that seasons are warmer, hotter and drier. >> california real estate and australian fires, two different issues, to real estate for a second, the prices were correcting long before the fires hit, market was strong for years. low rates, they are rolling
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over, now at end of the day, i think this may be something we test in our lifetime, if you live in a faulted zone there are earthquakes and fires, maybe you have to self insure the home, the prices will adjust accordingly, and australia, i'm a timber investor, i have been doing this for a long time in private equity space. one thing we concern ourselves is when you manage forests, when you don't let mother nature do her thing. i am not endorsing what happened here, this is horrible. but you try to manage a process that has forest are through exxons, you burn -- ioinsin -- eons, you burn brush and forests they come back they have been for year. >> -- it a private insurance. >> kristina. >> i know what you will say. >> you mentioned states
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insurance program, i actually i think this crowds a o a lot of private censurer -- insurers, california is suffering from bad policy everywhere. in the city can sanctuary and management of so-called public land, 52% of california, is public land. 4% of texas is public land. why not sell some land to responsible private owners like kevin it would be better managed. >> one thing, as bad as fires ar in australia in 2009 a bushfire that was worse, 20 people have been killed so far there were 179 people killed in 2009, let's hope it does not get that bad. >> new details on amazing escape of carlos gone. he is prepared to nam name namee have more on that.
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it has more layers to it. >> every day, we know from ghosn he told fox business, they intentionally trying to take him down because he wanted to emerge. he was not allowed to speak too his wife during that time and holiday, final push to push him to flee the country, there are reports "wall street journal" one, saying he was put in to know audio box then moved to a -- like a big massive box, they drilled holes in bottom to breathe, they put him on a train, and a private jet airport. it was there they found security flaw. they figured it out, 10 to 15 people were involved with this. they are working on it for months to figure you on how to get him out of the country, now he has press conference scheduled for wednesday, he
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claims he will name names, that he is willing, key point to wrap it up, willing to have a fair trial in any court, aside from japan. david: he went to lep 91 to -- . >> he is half lebanese, i am intrigued, i want to see it come to trial, shine light of transparency, for me as an investor this damns the japanesing well process i pro ll process, why was he tied up for so long in a mehd fed a -- medi. >> he could see his daughter but not his wife. >>s from press that i'm reading does not help the japanese prosecutor in my view. they have some splaning to do,
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lucy. david: the guy, he knew he would be convicted, why not make an escape route. >> escape, is something -- like out of a james bond film or bourne fill. this is not nissan, the accusation gain go-- what has nissan's position been on this. >> i don't have a come from nissan. they are working with lawyers, you are right, japan went after him first, that is why he was changed november 2018, they claim misused funts fo funds fon personal well being, we talk about this amazing story, we have to keep mutual ground, we don't know if he actual dethat or not. >> we don't know what is going on with the government, to kevin a points, if i am an investor, i
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am leary, of investing to japan at-this-point. you know, japan has a bad situation on their hand, with the 2020 olympics coming up, with flaws in their security in terms of immigration coming back -- >> one airport. >> but the thing is. when you have other people coming froms world, you have all this you know middle eastern conflict, a lot of stuff goes on the last thing they want to to create fear. david: we have to leave it there, legal system of japan has a lot to be desired. >> congress may be back but will anything get done with impeachment hearings hanging over their heads? we will break this down for you next. is about to become your problem. ahh no, come on. i saw you eating poop earlier. hey!
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pelosi is trying to effect the election shup. >> election. >> but that is what they are trying to do, so sad for the country, think of it, we're fighting with iran, we're fighting with all of these different places. david: usmca trade deal could be done and signed by friday, but the impeachment stop congress from getting anything done. >> the impeachment should not stop usmca. mcconnell has to look at this politically as well as u.s. economy. last thing he should do is take away one of major accomplishments president trump
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has been talking about for 20 years, before he was even elected. also when you look at the q1. the projections are, correct me if i am wrong, we could achieve 3% gdp growth, if this is not signed it will shake up market. >> maybe mid 2s, boeing the knockoff a bunch of basis point with that max issue. my take on this impeachment, pelosi never wanted to do this, she is a whil a whiley politicil these young new players came in they forced her hand, now, i think difference between this impeachment and ones that were far better in -- if you want to call impeachment having qually value, this is not a domestic issue, no one gives a damn about
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ukraine, not as if a lewinsky or a break in atwate at -- the wate this is a foreign country which many people believe is corrupt anyway. david: also this a completely partisan impeachment. >> this is in last 24 hours, john bolton he is willing to speak, and that he is he was a closed at visor to president, if he goes that could put pressure on senate majority leader mitch mcconnell to have to call witnesses, he might get it from mode rallmoderate republicans, d maybe slowdown whole process. democrats are seizing from that public declaration. >> all of us in our own lives have to multitask, why can't congress do that as well, congress has a multitude of responsibilities. >> and john bolton knows
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everything, his testimony, expedite the process. >> he should. >> i hope. >> we should get usmca pass the first. >> do it both. david: that senator mcconnell said he would not put it to vote in senate until after impeachment, but he didn't know that nancy pelosi was going to be dragging her fight, he thought she would pass it on immediately, she is holding on. >> for her cards. >> never happened before. >> he might not only clear up the ukraine situation, but he might shed light on the soleimani situation, right, we all know he is hawkish. right, he might kill two birds one stone. david: kevin, i am wondering what the rest of the world thinks about what is going on, it happened before with america and impeachment of nixon and clinton.
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>> i agree. i think you want to hold cards back to get some value, but this impeachment has bored the entire voter constituent see of both parties, i tried to watch, i wept like a child, it was -- >> the thing that middle of mrveg sayamerica saying, why are giving aid to any of these countries any way, we should be giving it to america. david: comedian ricky gervais, did he go too far, even if it was great television, former governor mike huckabee does not think so. >> if they really are smart as they think they are and so much better than the rest of us, here is my challenge, hollywood, why don't you guys get off your scrippscrichtsscripts and privan for office. my age-related macular degeneration could lead to vision loss.
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david: golden globes host ricky gervais, tearing into hollywood elite. >> apple roared into the tv game with morning show. a suburb drama, yeah. about the importance of dignity and doing the right thing, made by a company that runs sweatshops in china. you say you are woke. but the companies you work for, unbelievable, apple, amazon, disney, if isis started a streaming service, i don't know you would call your agent. >> ricky has already been banned
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for life from the show but brought back, let's talk about business in television to get peach to watcpeople to watch liy can get it streamed to them, is difficult they lose share like crazy, you brokerage someone like rick -- bring someone like ricky in, i was howling he was funny, he was sharp barbs,. people are afraid to say anything because they are so politically correct. >> i was watching the football game, these shows turn me off as a conservative, but he actually threw out red meat, these insult to far left, hollywood it was awesome it was a golden roast. to kevin's point, you look at media industry, you want eyeballs, not people like me to watch games, you want me to tune in. >> you can't just say anything.
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apple does not run sweatshops, that ask a terrible insult and compare disney. >> it's a joke. >> to compare disney to isis is insane, this is an insult to our shoulder whos are fighting isis, these big companies, in 1980 it was big oil, and 90s it was big pharma, i get it. it is hip to craft chastises companies, we should celebrate the companies not put them down. >> i thought you would say we should be erectin election statf people bike ti like tim cook. he is an insult comic that is his stick, he did that, however, john, you point out are a conservative, a lot of conservatives rally behind gervais who have insulted many times president, insulted calling him a hollywood elitist
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in his gold home as well asry reality tv star this is an example. >> that is politics, person you hate today tomorrow you could give them a big bear hug. >> i'm not in politics. david: and it is about being politically incorrect, he does not mind it, he said don't make any political speeches, talking to people getting awards, he said you are in no position to lecture the public about anything, you know nothing about the real world. >> you can't do on a show on a live show, that is be boring, he was not boring. there is nothing worse than bringing people to their knees in boredom. >> i am of mind that insult shows have out lived their usefulness, if insulting apples
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-- if that gets better ratings. >> you could make money in apple but take a good joke. >> bring it full circle -- >> it not a joke. >> i agree with you. >> jokes are an exaggeration. >> there was a first asian w.h.owhowon for best actress in, mc2020. >> -- if you are an entertainer don't kill half your market by getting political how stupe cid thastupid isthat. david: you must love the fact he called out hollywood people who talk about carbon energy with a carbon footprints a mile wide. >> that i applaud. david: two in 5 adults turn to two things to help them with their household problems, is
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♪. david: 39 pickp two in five adults are helpless unable to fix household items without relying on google. at least they're willing to try. isn't that point? is the internet helping or hurting an entire generation of learning crucial do it your several skills? kevin. >> i tried to fix the ice maker in my fridge in my kitchen. david: that would be a tough one. >> when i took the plate off, it is all electronics. there is no, i can't fix that thing. and you know, kind of depressing i really screwed it up. david: just for an ice maker. >> it wouldn't stop.
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kept making ice, the sensor wasn't working. david: which is why, jonathan you need google these days, right? >> information used to be expensive, i don't know most ses with the 10 commandments or world book encyclopedia. it was expensive and cumbersome. thanks to the internet, evil big tech companies, like google. information is at fingerprints. david: that is a good news story, that is a pair point from jonathan. >> my father was born in 1925. i grew up doing things with my fathers, brothers uncles. i'm a hands on person. even high-tech electronics i will give a first try, get on the phone, online chat. david: spend $1000 an hour. >> i thought you had people for that, john. >> i would have thought made the angle, here is the younger generation they have to google, look up everything. i would respond because they're
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too busy coding, using raspberry. david: standing up for millenials. >> standing up for millenials. are we worried about the calculator, texas instruments type calculator. david: jonathan is right. good news. shows you what google can do. "bulls & bears". >> investor shaking off jitters in the session over showdown with iran. melissa: irtehran hundreds of thousands mourners flooding the streets. what now after a u.s. drone strike takes out iran's military leader. we'll ask senator mike brown of the armed services committee all about it. on to the battle over impeachment. president trump demanding a quickened while senator lindsey graham says if speaker
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