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humans but it possible we might not see them. connell: they are invisible. melissa: that wom would explaine elon musk thing. david: fox, alert, ivanka trump will take the stage at this year's consumers electronic show in las vegas. why some critics, particularly some women there, say she should not be speaking there. and happening now on capitol hill, house democrats, and lou wills committee meeting to prep a war-powers resolution for the floor tomorrow, that would limit the president's military actions on iran. this as white house briefing top congressional leaders to reasons why the u.s. attacked and killed iran's top general. we get any news out of these meetings, we'll bring it to you
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live. meantime president trump had this to say this afternoon about iran there w. >> we had in fact, he is where people were horribly wounded, number now is two dead. that was his. he was the traveling with the head of hezbollah. they were note there to discuss -- there were not there to discuss a vacation, or go to a nice place in baghdad, they were there to discuss bad business. we saved a lot of lives. david: president trump doubling down on his decision to take out iran's top general, who is a terrorist, iran saying that iran of the about to carry out more attacks on american diplomats and troops when the strike was ordered. president warning of his strong u.s. response, after tehran threatened a quote nightmare revenge. >> investors monitoring all middle east, tension stocks
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edging slightly lower, dow down 119, this is "bulls and bears," joining me today, caroll roth, john burnett, john layfield, and robert wolf. we go to rich edson at the state department, what are we're learning when the airstrike that killed soleimani. reporter: the trump administration is thus far refused to provide more information about specifics. surrounding this imminent threat that u.s. said it prevented by killing soleimani. secretary of state pompeo at department today said that u.s. got it right. >> there has been much made about this question of intelligence and imminence. look no further than days that lead ep to strike that was taken against soleimani. reporter: iran is threatening retaliation for killing soleimani, pro-iran union politician in iraq push a nonbinding reading through parliament that would expel u.s.
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forces from iraq. trump administration is considering sanction on the iraqi government if it kicks the military out of iraq employees perseid that military is --er peres, per se,ing that the miliy is pro positions. >> president's foreign policy action so far. in north korea, syria, russia. and just about ever everywhere , can be described in two words, erratic, impulsive, i am worry a few months from now his iran policy will be described the same way. reporter: now after saying this united states had identified sites and targets that were sensitive to iranian culture, president revised that a bit, saying, that u.s. would obey the law when it came to targeting. if it escalated to that level.
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david: rich edson thank you. >> 2020 hopeful joe biden slamming the president's handling of iran, demanding that president reenter into the iran nuclear deal. >> 6 months ago here in new york city, i made the case that donald trump was dangerously incompetent and incapable of world leadership, in last few days and killing of the iranian general soleimani has proven beyond that comment, he should be reaching out to hurt european partners and others. and find a way to avoid on rush of war in best way to do that is would be for president trump to rejoin the iran deal and build on it. david: let's bring in army veteran and house foreign affairs committee member, republican congressman steve watkins. do you consider killing a
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terrorist, who arrived illegally in dead of night in baghdad, while his militiamen were attacking u.s. embassy, to be a rush to war? >> no, absolutely not, i am not onboard with biden's choice to reenter the jcpoa, if we look for strategy, i recommend to joe biden to look at tactical level, i have been on the ground with went assault rifle in one hand, a s.a.t. phone in other, and my mission so the what you want, is a credible deterrent, you want the enemy ton as yo -- enemy to, if they kill you, there will be hell to pay, there will be a reaper drone raining down a prosession guided hell fire missile to be on litiat -- oblid them and their men. >> this is caroll roth, i
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listened to joe biden talk about his quote, unquote, plan, i wonder what kind of credibility he has, he was vp in a administration that took up 1.5 billion on a pallet undercover of darkness delivered it to iran, we got nothing out of that deal, do you think he has any credibility on this topic. >> caroll, great, there is no credibility, if i love for him to appease maybe we would make up with a pallet of cash on our driveway. they don't know -- we're growing great, right now course act will result in some risk and some uncertainty, perhaps seeing volatility in market. but inaction will result in in longer term problems, improud of the president, i am proud of this decision, i support him, the volatile would be worse if
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it was not for the america first, pro energy policy that he has established. we're net producer, net exportser of energy, we understand that volatility in middle east will mean less to our markets. >> the administration outlined soleimani task, he has done his killings and outlined when respect to the embargo if you will as him not able to travel from u.s. perspective, outside of iran. especially not to iraq. however you know the lawmakers in dc are getting a briefing right now. what is the likelihood of the pop lawmakers, narrative changes aafter receiving the intelligene that, pompeo, and president already know? >> sadly it will probably remain on party lines. have see this argument, just war
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theory argument play out, people talk proportionate response and other authorization. this is ridiculous, this is an enemy combatant entered country in dead of night to see the attack he played a hand in no doubt, the president was well within his rights, i look forward to the security brief myself, i don't think it will chierchchange our minds. >> congressman john la layfield, this assassination policy of president trump, follow pied the same assassination policy of president obama where we go butte due process -- we do without due process, only designation of government that this person is a terrorist, we assassinate people, in a country, that this person is visiting we don't have the privilege and right of this country.
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too assassinate that person, president obama assassinated an american person overseas without a trial because of the same reason, because he was a designated terrorist, does this policy not alarg alarm you. >> where was this policy when discussing our involvement with kurds, this more of authority argument, was there any discussion when we attacked, it is iran on that ladder of escalation, hey have attacked drones in strait of hormuz, oil tanker, sawed saudi oil feels ts us responding proportionately to your threats. >> i disagree with much of what you said, i applaud what joe biden said. david: you met with him. >> i did, i think we should have never left the jcpoa, any time that we can to to -- do a dealt puts us at less risk and hope
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nuly proces fully process -- anr allies at table, i think we're better off, there was not a war tboaing on at thwargoing on at . their has been nuclear deep proliferation happening, i would also say, that many of your peerses and service members agree we should have stayed in the iran nuclear deal, this is very polarizing this decision, he clearly was not a good guy. what di did you hear when was so imminent that you thought we should go right back to harm's way. >> okay we're on ladder of escalation, they are the ones taking steps up. i have not been in the scif yet to hear the intel. but i would say is we have over 600 service members die at hands of soleimani. he was an enem an an enemy combe
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that was dispute when we were talking about the kurds. listen, it very polarizing issue, but most of servicemembers whom i talk with are full treatment. david: we heard word as i asassg assassination. if a military combatant, which highe was, if he is killed in a military operation i would note -- not call that assassination. >> no, it is war, and in war people die, unfortunately i have westpoint dallas mate wh classmw because of acts of general soleimani, our ability to kill him i would like that too
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reverbiate throughout middle east, i want everyone to know, if we can kill your general, we can damn well kill you. david: congressman watkins thank you are ithankyou for your serv. >> usmca clearing a major hurdle, but will democrat push for impeachment delay? all money managers might seem the same, but some give their clients cookie cutter portfolios. fisher investments tailors portfolios to your goals and needs. some only call when they have something to sell. fisher calls regularly so you stay informed. and while some advisors are happy to earn commissions whether you do well or not. fisher investments fees are structured so we do better when you do better. maybe that's why most of our clients come from other money managers. fisher investments. clearly better money management.
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david: key senate committee passing the usmca deal. ed ward lawrence with latest from dc . reporter: this is senate finance committee sending on usmca to full senate, a big milestone, they support the new deal, they see economic benefits from the
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usmca. but democrat criticize the process and how we arrived here. warren saying we sour relationship through tariffs, senator grassley sees it differently, saying ratifying usmca will show other country that president wants free trades and will make a deal, he wants full ratification sooner rather than later. >> earliest to be approved if she does not sense over article of peach pooch impeachment peat new days, we know we're going to get it done. 1 we start it because, under trade promotion or fast track authority, whatever you want to call it, there can only be 20 hours of debate. we don't have to have 60 votes, at end of 20 hours or short of that. we can get this passed by wide bipartisan majority.
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reporter: senator grassley said that deal will silence critics who say that president is head down wrong road with the tariff is, resulting in better trade agreement, and usmca adding 176,000 job thains colluding intellectuas that includeintell protection. senate leader mitch mcconnell says that impeachment trial takes priority. ratification for full senate would be february, mitch mcconnell is still waiting on articles of impeachment from nancy pelosi. you can't schedule one without having the other first. >> we'll see. edward thank you. >> with speaker pelosi dragging her feet on impeachment, should mccomcconnell pass the usmca. >> i disagree with republican strategy, i should not delay
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with any delay in getting the usmca done, 176,000 working class jobs, higher wages, 34 billion for auto industry alone. they should not delay this at all. they should get this done, if there will be 20 hours of debate start the clock now, they should debate right now. >> i was a member of president's export -- i am a supporter of usmca, i just want to be clear, premises wrong, it has nothing to do with nance nangs nancy pe, democrat in house loved this deal it is pro environment, pro labor standards, they have an arbitration -- >> let me -- hold on for viewers who might not realize it. mcconnell said in past he would wait until the impeachment trial was finished before he would vote on this. the question is -- >> he is wrong. david: he agrees with you, we're not argue with you. >> he could do an up-and-down
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vote that would pass, one senator most against it is senator tumi of pennsylvania. a republican. >> right. >> elizabeth warren even supporters. usmca would pass, it is mcconnell holding it up, he has 400 bills on his desk there are a lot of things he could pass, he is stalling, time he does not alike a member of white house. david: carolla laughing. >> this is a 5 abou a time whert and i are in agreement, i invoke word of famous philosophy nike, just do it. there is no reason they cannot schedule 20 hours of debate, thithis is putting politics over people, republicans need to get this done, it is a good deal among these trading partners but sits stage for other trade dials, whether it is moving china along at a faster clip or closing something with the u.k.,
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this is a good thing just do get it done already. >> robert, you say there are screwed up politics in washington d.c., i never heard that before. >> i also want to be clear to viewer who love me, this has nothing to do with pelosi, she passed it, sorry my fox friends. >> everyone is acting like this is a massive deal, you know what market did when it showed on would pass, nothing. because this does not open two new territory of trade this is nafta 2.0, a couple thin things in there that republicans disagreed with. so there is a lot in there this is a a good deal but not revolutionary deal. they should pass it. david: all right. one of few times that everyone in panel agrees they should vote on this. >> you would never have known that. david: developing story, fbi against apple. again over access to alleged
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this case, relating to this case, a month ago we gave them all of the data in our possession, we will continue to support them with data we have available, apple says they gave all they could. why is this? the phones, apple iphones are encrypted, only way too get in by user with face or pass code, apple claims they can no longer get to people's phones unless it is stored in cloud, this brings up encryption debate between fbi and apple, should digital information be accessible to law enforcement will you see the screen, back in 6 years ago, a very similar dispute between apple and the fbi, over iphone of a man who along with his wife, shot and killed 14 people in san bernardino, in california, that is what you see there in that particular case, federal judge ordered ap apple o
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help authorities gain access, that was resolved fbi found a private company to help break into the phone. since then, i leave it here, apple has really stepped it up, with encryption, and they claim that if they create a backdoor, then there will be a backdoor opening for everyone, including hackers. is debate for apple front or law enforcement. david: thank you kristina. should apple work with fbi town lock iphone? he is dead, he was killed by law enforcement he is suspected of killing three people. john l ? >> yes, i agree with that, apple should, sounds like apple circumstance their case of a crime, case of terrorism, apple should work it, it to give contents of that phone, if they can to the government. i don't think that government should have a backdoor, we have a government that has lead lied to us when thousands of people were dying in afghanistan and vietnam, they have lied too us
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since the gip beginning o -- bef this country, i don't trust the government with information but if apple can give them that information i i think they should. >> this is a tricky one. and you want apple to continue to do that that said, it is easy to say, someone is a terrorist we should have that backdoor open. but as kristina alluded to that mine its could be open and vulnerable to hackers, and to government. and i think that is pretty scary, there should be something in legal system if they designate someone a terrorist, that there a way to get in there but i think it would be careful on principle in terms of siding with more protection for privacy for individual. >> i mean, i think there is no question that apple should do everything they can to me, if there is so gray area, that he or she, is a killer, and of
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military. it is not even a question. okay? you give everything you can to make sure we find out why, there is no second, situation thats can about. and during that san bernardino, i disagreed with apple then, i know we had a second company, but you know with those things, i think this is plaqu black and. >> i hate to digress, i agree and disagree in in case person actually died. dead, he has no privacy rights, apple should work with the fbi. and any law enforcement agent, to solve a case. right? more information is needed. however, if that person is alive and refuses to give up information, you know, the fbi just send a request without a court order, look we're a nation of lays, i understan laws -- lao brokprotect privacy, in a situan where person is still alive,
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refusing to give up much in, we havinformation, we have to prott privacy, and honor it through the courts. david: even if he was still alive. the fact is that he is a saudi national, he was a saudi national, high could have been in communication likely with someone in saudi arabia perhaps a part of a network of terrorists it is important for fbi to know that. >> but, we can't create carve outs, and leave it to discretion, case by case, we have to clear rules, clear guidelines. >> can i just -- >> he was on a u.s. military base. to me, everyone on that base is government owned. >> i agree. >> i am not sayingy -- >> but i don't want to this establish precedent. >> i would not mind that. >> this is unique. person dead, military base, however, god forbid it occurs again off military base by a
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u.s. citizen, a dow don't want s as precedents as fbi just coming in? last word. >> controversial ces, ivanka trump talking to tech community, why some critics are outraged by her appearance, why? liz claman is here to explain, coming next. (whistling) (whistling)
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jobs not all are -- so, thinking, you mentioned importance of defining work based on skills. rather than credential is important, require a shift in our thinking. david: hard to imagine that would have cause a controversy, ivanka trump on stage, giving keynote speech at ces, for some reason people were outraged liz claman is there. reporter: she was announced a keynote speaker late in the cycle. right before new year's day,, you know, we were thinking well, we can't get over -- we're thinking logistically, i damage think how dare the technology association that put on ces, world's largest show in the world, she is here to talk about job of the future, making sure our workforce and our students
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are educated for better paying jobs, that snow secret for last couple of years she met with googlal and a lot of high-tech leaders. and awards from internet association, outcry and backlash from people saying, oh, what does he know abou she know abou, and ar aren't there more qualify women to give the keynote. ivanka trump is a member ofs administration, we have a lot of members delegation coming here, elaine chao, and wilbur ross. american technology and global technology is all here and represented.
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the most harsh comment, a noted and widely reported technology reporter. founder of recode, she said, quote, this is a feckless and dumb stunt. other people fel felt that ivans not someone who should be here because she is not in the tech world. gary shapiro, i talked with his people, we were e-mailing, said what is going on, he said this is really lame, i have never wanted ces show to be -- david to be -- he wanted to be to nonpartisan, not red, not blue, just about technology. david: she said nothing controversial. that i could hear. reporter: that is where we are, people are a little upset, they say there are more women who are more experienced than she and should have been keynote
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speaker. >> i have a lot of disagreement with this administration, i think when you talk about key neat speakers, you can get people prooffic -- from the offf president you take them, whether a republican or democrat this is the ces, you have people from all over the globe, i -- i get backlash we're in a polarizing environment this has something to to if it was ivanka or steve mnuchin. it is idea of pro-trump and anti-trump. i would tell to many of people in vegas, she has pretty good credentials as a fellow warton grad. >> john. >> liz, great to have you, we have a real skills gap in country, 800,000 people we need for welding and electrician jobs we'll not fill in next decade, we have 27,000 people we need too build out a 5g network that
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are not qualified, it appears we're starting to lose war with china in our ai battle, have you talked to people much in ces is skill -- that tboain going it. melissait. reporter: all these companies behind me, they 4500 exhibiters are desperate for those who are skilled in stem. science, technology, mag, that t is her message, i get it there are people who are nonpartisan some lean conservative who say, you know, what does she bring,? who cares, she is as robert said, a member of the administration, who has a some chops here with the past two years of pryin trying to push aa that says let's get our kids,
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can k-12 more skilled in science, and technology and math. i get it there are so many keynotes. meg whitman, and jef jeff watt . david: who do you come up tomorrow. >> tomorrow, bastion of delta airlines talking about technology of travel, he will be with us, i believe first time delta has come to the show, ip park is the brainiac of lg electronics, he will show us the bones inside the rollable television, and david will talk about streaming wars, a huge story any day anyway. but all day long, we're live from ces. david: liz claman. we'll be watching thank you very much. >> are republicans losing the war on health care? a former presidential candidate
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david: most 2020 democrat made health care reform a large part of their presidential platforms. one former presidential candidate says that g.o.p. needs to respond, in a "wall street journal" op-ed bobby jindal writes. former louisiana governor, is joining us now, democrat claim expanding government coverage of healthcare with higher taxes will make americans he'l health, what is simplest reinc simplestt will not work. >> democrats are great at shifting costs from the private sector to taxpayers that is medicare for all and obamacare.
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americans like their private health care, they would like it to be more affordable. republicans need to play offense not defense, be laser focused on reducing cost, they could start -- they could get bipartisan winning by lowering drug costs, ending surprise building and provide moretance -- transparency in hospital pricing. that would help reduce health care costs and allow americans to keep private insurance they like. >> governor thank you for addressing this. this issue is so important, and g.o.p. has drop the ball, i want to ask about free market solutions, free market works everywhere include health care, you look at lac at -- what wille for us to move toward more free
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market solution there. >> there are big changes that can be made. in tact code, even if you start with incr incremental steps, ift was eereasier for consumers to w much hospitals charge. f they had access on line information studying shown this reduces cost of health care, you saw with calpers, they used reference prices in california and oklahoma surgical centers, there is real data if you impower consumers, you are right, we have a chase. comp tig -- cometician or top down. >> governor, nice to see you again. we've have been on opposite sides, we're close on this you say is close to what former vice
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president joe biden saying, extent public option, but, he is agreeing with pharmaceutical. he is agreeing with you can also keep your private insurance. also looking at crossing state lines. the other thing is to be clear, under obamacare, rate of inflation for healthcare slowed. during this period. we know that, health care costs continue to rise but a slowerrer slowerrer, it has been reversed under trump administration. i would agree, that g.o.p. has to actually come up with something, right now they have not said anything about it. >> a couple of things -- >> more of a statement than a question. david: go ahead. >> i'll give you answers to question you did not ask, what can democrat like than nance and jonancypelosi and joe biden. the democratic approach, is if government just sets price or
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toles you, can cannot choose our doctor or health plan, you see -- invsee -- less innovation. you se see. i think president trump can say, you need to pay your fair share. like he says to nato allies pay your fair share. we need to stand up to other developed country, and say time for america to stop playing the r&d costs, there is no reason our drugs are twice as expensive as other countries. there can be bipartisan ground but, i think we need to shy away from top down heavy handed approach, the problem with nancy pelosi's bill is you get fewer innovative drugs.
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>> to regular programming. how likely is it for the republicans and democrats to agree. a agree but to get something done in 2020. >> i think that most likely bill to end surprise billing. that means you go to a hospital, you think it is a network, you end up with a bill from ambulance billing company, and aan er doctor there are proposal say pay a fixed rate. but at end of the day, the consumer who thinks they are going to to an innetwork hospital should not be stuck with a surprise bill that can be done. david: governor we have to go, i just saw hospital bill 60 dollars for a bottle of tylenol. -- thank you governor jindal. thank you very were.
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>> before break, what is coming up on "evening edit" can melissa francis. >> it is. tonight narco violence is spiraling out of control in mexico, shocking display and as is in in inassassin asking his - film an execution. and we ask veteran affair secretary what he is doing to make sure our nation's vet get medical care they deserve, and a new government watch dog report that claims v.a. spent 4 billion on new medical facility with very little oversight. david: a great program thank you. >> facebook is struggling to keep a float from political missteps, but now a self proclaimed liberal executive warns employees against using power to sto trump's 2020
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david: "new york times" obtaining a me memo, telling opy that company should not tip the scale against trump, writing in part to be clear imn i'm no fanf trump, as a committed liberal i find myself wants to pull any level. what stays my hand? to use tools available to us, i am confident we must never do that or we will become this which we fear. >> i agree 100%. i probably could say the same
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thing, you have to separate political bias from business, no different than congress, they have to there their job, and have political differences, what he said makes a lot of sense, other point that president trump during his campaign had best advertising on facebook. which -- >> that of the jared fisher. >> john? >> facebook is largest repository of cat videos in world, if you get news on facebook, you are an idiot, and zuckerberg cannot fix that, you cannot fix stupid. >> you should not manipulate election that is bad, you should side with free speech, so i think he nailed it. let people have their free speech. >> tell john, i am not on facebook, i want him to know that. david: we have to run, hunter biden may not have been only one that financially benefited from
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♪. david: chelsea clinton cashing in. "barron's" reporting she made $9 million since 2011 when she joined board of iac/interactive corporation. runed by hillary clinton friend and owner barry dill son. she received $250,000 in restricted iac stock unit. chelsea clinton is on the board of expedia which diller chairs. awarded roughly $80,000 of expedia stock since 2017. isn't this the exactly crony capitalism which democrat say they disapprove? >> get beat up on twitter for the answer. i have no problem with this. why? because i'm a supporter of capitalism. look, a lot of companies when you look at suite of different companies iac has? they are a lot of technology
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companies and why wouldn't they want millenial and high-profile on the board. >> john, stop it. i have been a public company director. i'm currently a private company director. these are very difficult positions to get even with that level of corporate governor nance experience, which is what a board does. she has absolutely no right, experience to be in the position. that is cronyism. not capitalism and should be treated with utter disdain. >> i'm with john beale. this is free market. if you buy access to something, with companies. this is something that happens. happens with the trump kids. happens with anybody who has political or business influence. you put people on payroll to get access this is business gone on since beginning of time. >> chelsea just like i said about ivanka. went to a great school. she worked at hedge fund. she learned about the investment portfolio. she worked at avenue. she understands business. this has nothing to do with secretary clinton. she held the stock. david: do you think she would
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have gotten the job if her name was clinton? >> did you say that about ivanka in las vegas? david: crony cap tail -- capitalism. david: we had a lot of agreement gang. that is it for "bulls & bears." see you next time. melissa: president trump claiming soleimani was a monster but he is not anymore. he claimed that the it saved a lot of lives. people killed in a stampede as tens of thousands of iranians turned out more than 200 others were injured. to the battle of border funding. attorney general bill barr, rather he hadly preparing to head to mexico to talk of security. in the wake of another

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