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and its grounding 10 months ago. connell: thank you, dan. we're right up against -- >> took the lives of 346 people connell: yes i'm sorry right up against the top of the hour, dan we apologize for tax bulls & bears right now. david: a fox business alert the second case of the corona virus has now been reported in the united states, the cdc is saying a chicago woman returned with the virus. 63 other people in the u.s. are under investigation, and observation in 22 different states, hi, everybody this is bulls & bears i'm david asman. joining me on the panel today, gary b. smith, liz peek, john burnette and 2020 presidential candidate john delaney. let's go straight to susan li for more on the outbreak from d.c. susan? >> hi there, so we just heard from president trump in fact applauding china in their efforts to contain the spread of the coronavirus and that's the fact that the u.s. confirmed
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its second case in chicago with a woman in her 60s traveling back to the city, and if we can bring that up from president trump, you see he applauds the efforts and the steps that china has taken to try to contain the virus, and he says that he thinks xi-jinping of china for those efforts and as i mentioned if you take a look at the map we have the second confirmed case in the u.s. but also europe has had its first cases of coronavirus be confirm ed as well. france says there are two there and that's the first on that confidence. most of these cases in china at this point, close to 900 of them , particularly in that area, where 16 cities and 40 million are under travel restrictions, spreading across to the asia pacific and singapore has three cases as well. now, here in the u.s. , talking to some of those health experts, that attended the senate committee today, alerting senators in terms of the coronavirus and how big it is to the american public and
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the threat is very low, and that was something echoed by senators today. >> to the american people, if you have flu-like symptoms it is almost certain that you have the flu. this is a very very rare occurrence right now in the united states, because people need to be aware of this , if they'd had some connection, any connection, in china that's a different ballgame. reporter: as i mentioned to you most of these cases taking place in china, travel restrictions in place for 16 cities including the wuhan, with 11 million residents and this does not come at a good time for china. this is the most lucrative time of the year, most busy travel time during the lunar new year holidays and as a result we seen numerous businesses shut down, at least numerous popular tourist destinations, that includes parts of the great wall , the forbidden city in beijing, in fact beijing canceled all chinese new year celebrations, mcdonald's closed down some of its restaurants in
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shanghai disney land which is a $5 billion investment from disney also being closed as well but as you heard from the senatorrings, again just a reminder that yes vigilance is important but the public risk right now is very low. david? david: great report susan, thank you very much. well, meanwhile china restrict ing travel in more than 35 million people as susan just mentioned at least 10 cities are now in lockdown. china expert gordon chang is here for his perspective on this now, gordon, china lied about the intensity of the sars virus remember in 2003-2003 a lot of people think they're lying about this now the intensity of it but i asked lou dobbs about this yesterday and i got a surprising response and i want to play that and get your reaction. go ahead, play tape. lou, is it reasonable or even possible to expect china to be transparent on this? lou: well i think it is and i do think we might begin by credit ing them and i know some might be surprised with my saying this. >> i am.
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lou: but the fact of the matter is they have shut down three cities, stopped the outbound flights to hold the line on this coronavirus. they have never behaved this way david: how would you respond to that? >> well i'd agree with that but i'd also point out that china's officials right now are desperate. as late as last tuesday you had officials in wuhan attending this big spring festival gala and they were completely oblivious. i think that what they're doing is seeing scenes from the hospital where the corpses are on the floors for 12 hours at a time or in the streets where you have people just falling down, this is really serious so i think that they want to be seen to be doing something, and that's why they take the drastic measures like closing off, now actually 16 cities, 4 to 6 million. david: transparency it's a come you must government, do you expect them to be transparent? >> they were up until about two to three days ago and then full
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cents or ship mode so they started to go after social media and took everyone off state tv, so there's been a real change in this week, because i think they understood that they just did not, they just lost control of this. well to that point, some people are saying that the virus actually could have started prior to january 16, as far as we know, and as we go into this weekend, the start of the chinese new year, businesses are already suffering in china, as a result of the tariffs and so fourth, right? what kind of impact will that have on phase i, china's ability to fulfill the deal in terms of purchase of goods and service, to the tune of in excess of $200 billion and then also, will that give u.s. the advantage going into phase ii, with the china weak economy. >> we certainly have an advantage and this just in creases this because this is going to really rock the chinese economy. you know in terms of phase ii, phase i, where they've got
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purchase commitments, $200 billion over two years, they can actually fulfill that. this is a semi-command economy in china so if i were president trump and i could see the chinese were not buying as much i would just say look, buy the stuff, put it in your warehouse, i don't care. you've got a commitment and if you don't fulfill your commitment i'm going to increase the section 301 tariffs to the sky and then you'll really hurt, so yes, they can fulfill their commitments because this is not a free market deal. this is a managed trade deal and the chinese can do what they've said. >> we have leverage going into phase ii. >> absolutely a lot of leverage and it's going more and moral the time because the chinese economy is not growing at 6.1% it's growing a lot less. >> yeah, i don't think we can trust what they're telling us obviously we should encourage them to do everything they can possibly do, but there's got to be another discussion coming out of this , which is preparing for these pandemics. because we made a lot of progress -- david: don't use the word pandemic yet. it's not a pandemic. i didn't call this a pandemic but in general this is a
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flashing at a minimum yellow light that one day we will be confronting something and we made a lot of progress with ebola in terms of working with other countries and we need to take that to the next level and coordinate an international response because these kind of outbreaks could occur in countries that don't have the resources china does and we need to be fighting it there like we do with ebola and have a strong public health response here and learn from this and make sure we take it as a warning sign. >> yeah, obviously we've got to do that. that's really important for us, because you know, you got all of these travelers coming into the u.s.. every day at lax you have about 40-60 passengers fromwuhan coming into one single airport, and you know, this has an incubation period of perhaps two weeks which means we're going to have a lot of people infected in the u.s.. >> it's here and it's going to get worse. >> 8,000 travelers a day, i think. david: gary go ahead. >> gordon i was going to ask you a question about the resources. here if this broke out in the u.s. not only could we bring in the government agencies like
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the cdc, but we could call upon private enterprise, the huge harm company. i know china's big and i know they are the number two maybe arguably the number one economy in the world, but can they bring the same medical resources and innovations that we could to the same disease? they can bring the resources, for instance they are building that 1,000-bed hospital in wuhan and will have it ready in about a week but they can't bring innovation. they are completely lost on that they don't have the private sector. all they have the ability of the government to exercise totalitarian controls. david: we've got to leave it at that gordon thank you very much for coming in. president trump addressing the conference of mayors just moments ago as you saw touting the strength of our economy. we are live at the white house and we will be speaking shortly to the head of that mayor's conference coming here. (whistling)
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while our competition continues to talk. ♪ talk, talk david: elizabeth warren is now responding to that confrontation with a father over her plan to forgive student loan debt. we showed it to you yesterday it's worth taking a look at it again, watch. >> i just want to ask one question. my daughter is getting out of school, i saved all of my money. am i going to get my money back? so you're going to pay for people who didn't save any money? my buddy has bought a car, went on vacation, i saved my money. he made more than i did. i work a double shift, worked extra, so you're laughing at me. we did the right thing and we get screwed. david: now, warren was asked about this confrontation this morning, here was her defense, listen. >> we build a future going
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forward by making it better, and by that same logic what would we have done? not started social security because we didn't start it last week for you or last month for you? david: john delaney that guy had a very compelling point but did she have a good comeback? >> she did, i think they were both right. obviously if you write-off all of the student loans, listen obviously if you write-off all of the student loans which is a terrible policy people are going to feel like idiots if they just actually paid off their student loans, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't be doing something to address the scale of the student debt crisis. $1.6 trillion of student loans outstanding and they think 40% of them will be in default soon, so we should be lowering the interest rate, we should be expanding these programs that allow people to pay off their loans with a percentage of their income, we should allow students or adults if they file for bankruptcy, to have their student debt discharged in bankruptcy. it's the only debt in this country that can not be discharged in bankruptcy, so
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think about how unfair that is. so we should be doing things because we clearly have a crisis , but we shouldn't be writing off $1.6 trillion of student debt, included by the wealthy. it's ridiculous. david: gary? >> well i guess i kind of agree with john in the point of not writing off the student debt but i disagree in the other regard. look, colleges and universities need to be more run more like private enterprises. first of all, college is now, it's quite frankly, it's not for everyone, so there's a lot of people out there who shouldn't go to college but because of the government funding they've made these colleges able to raise tuition so high and they've become giant rich enterprises, the endowment at harvard, the endowment is $40 billion and you say okay well it's harvard. they have a lot of rich alumni. the endowment at university of
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florida for crying outloud is $1 billion. these colleges are a wash in money. david: uh-huh. >> they are sucking on the government if you will to get more and more money. they're passing along i guess per john's point to the student, they need to be cut and the government needs to get out of the funding of students going to college. >> and the thing that kills a lot of people, elizabeth warren was getting paid $300,000 a year for teaching one course. she's the worst person to be talking about how we got to cut other things. she's not talking about cutting salaries of these professors. >> she got that money because she could. david: liz? >> well but there has been no financial constraints on colleges and universities across the country. they have been free to up the cost of tuition payments for professors and all of the rest, because one, people are very very willing to en do you these colleges because they are so hopeful their kid will get in as a result of that and two, because the federal government keeps pushing more
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money into the system. elizabeth warren needs to sit down and figure out how to solve the problem. how to keep costs from going up, and by the way, it really kind of goes back to high school too. we need much more in the way of training for youngsters who do not want to go to college, who don't have the financial resources to do so, make it available to those who really have aspirations that make sense , but the way its run now, it's a complete mess. >> if we do arrive to the conclusion with respect to any debt-type of write-off we actually need to look at there's no one-size-fits-all. someone going to school for engineering, business, or other type of professional degree is completely different than someone going to college to learn how to draw, paint, arts and different things of that nature but really when you apply those skills to the marketplace, it's like a $75,000 job tops. right? david: john, i'm sorry, john? heading back to the original point, everybody knew what this guy was saying. people who saw that immediately
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understood what he's saying. we should not be rewarding irresponsible borrowing. if you're borrowing beyond your means, you're doing something wrong. this is a guy who didn't do that a lot of us made personal sacrifices we could have gotten into higher-paying colleges and we didn't because weeded in afford it and knew we couldn't pay off the loan but we shouldn't be rewarding p employee who make bad borrowing decisions. >> listen we have to be more responsible as a nation and we also have to think about education, about skill. it's not about degrees. it's about skills, and that's got to be a huge shift in how we think about it, and one of the concerns that i have with all of these people saying they will write-off all of the student loans is what does that tell people who are actually making their payments now? >> is that sending a message to them to stop making their payments which actually isn't good for them to do. >> that's been the problem from day 1 is a moral hazard issue which nobody has addressed that. i'm glad this fellow came along an challenged her on that.
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>> the pw c came out with a study years ago and askingceo's one question and the same question to hr reps and also asked to academia, in terms of do you think the students are coming out of your academic institution are ready for the workforce? david: it turned out it was an average american who came up and spoke to the so-called experts and had more common sense then all of them put together i love that. the house democrats making their case against president trump for the last time in the senate floor right now have they swayed any republicans we've got a live report from capitol hill on impeachment coming right up. >> to get rid of this president now, because i can't trust him to do what's best for the country because he will only do what's best for donald trump. that decision needs to be made by the voters. i'm your mother in law. and i like to question your every move.
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what will you change? make the world you want. david: the pressure is on for house democrats on their final day to make their case in president trump's impeachment trial, congressional correspondent chad pergram has been following all of this from capitol hill, managing to stay awake. chad, andy mccarthy had a piece, saying that adam schiff really kind of opened the door for calling joe and hunter biden in because he kept mentioning the bidens, over and over and over again, and now, jay sekulow is saying basically the same thing that there's no way if they're witnesses where the democrats can avoid allowing the bidens in particular because they have been mentioning so much to which you say what? >> by our count there were 226 references yesterday during the senate trial to the bidens. when you do open the door there this is why republicans are seizing on this idea saying if
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you mention the bidens so much and you talk about ukraine, perhaps then we should call them , and this is where republican texas senator ted cruz thought the vote to call witnesses is right on the edge. this is why if they get to that vote maybe late next week, next thursday, a week from today, and they actually call the bidens and don't have the democratic witnesses, mick mulvaney, mike pompeo, john bolton, you know, democrats are going to be irate. i never thought i'd actually see the capitol dome be lifted up off the building but that probably would happen next week if they call the bidens and again it comes down to a roll call vote. everything up here is about the math and we just don't know how the math might go, especially with this new issue with the bidens. >> chad i thought they were negotiating sort of a barter deal where you could have the bidens, if we get john bolton or mike pompeo, then it was going to be sort of a one- for-one. have they kind of abandoned that idea at this point?
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>> chuck schumer the democratic leader haspoo-ppoo'd that, an idea floating around from the democrat senator from delaware, chris coons. we don't see that happening right now, but, and i will underscore but, you could see if it gets down to where democrats think that they might lose the vote in that because this is all that everybody on capitol hill is talking about right now, is how much the bidens have been side and whether or not they will call witnesses lick that and if the democrats get to call any witnesses that they want, you could see maybe democrats because the door has been cracked open they go to mcconnell and say all right let's see where we are, who do you really want, who do we have. they horse trade around here all the time, and so even though this is a senate trial. >> hi, chad. trump 2020 campaign advisory board member katrina pierceon actually tweeted this out earlier today, a proverbs, 1817 coming from the
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niv version in a lawsuit the first to speak seems right until someone comes forward and cross-examines. with that said, what will trump' defense team, what will their communication strategy be? what points will they actually pick out from the democrats, the point that they made over the last couple of days? >> you have to remember there are several audiences here. the first audience is the senate the second audience is the public and i'm going to subdivide that audience a little bit. one of those audiences is the presidential electorate looking at swing state voters who are right in the middle of that 20% undecided or independent and then house voters, those who vote in districts that are swing districts in iowa and virginia and so on, and then you have another constituency. the president of the united states. you can see where after they get into the president' defense tomorrow, supposed to go from 10 -1, and jay sekulow, he described this as a coming attraction, like a movie trailer
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you can see where maybe the president says that i want you to go as long as adam schiff , or maybe say this. that, we don't know. we will get that trailer tomorrow between 10 and 1:00 in a rare saturday session. >> chad? as you know about 4-8 republican senators determine this whole witness question. collins, lisa montgomery,lamar alexander, a couple others, romney. where do you think they are right now? what's the sense you're getting because they really determine everything because the democrats are completely in line on this. a lot of the republicans made their position clear. where do you think those 4-8 republican senators are on this issue? >> two things there was one procedural vote early in the wee hours of wednesday morning where susan collins was the first defector , but she's mostly in line there. somebody else i would keep in mind ises lamar alexander, republican of tennessee, people view him as a bit of a wildcard that's possible. you could see where you have a lot of other republican senators maybe voting to call the bidens
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and lindsey graham whose one of the most defenders of the president he turns around and says no, we're not going to call the bidens. he said that today so it's going to have to come down to every individual vote. there was a critical vote. a lot of people missed it in the wee hours of wednesday morning again when they were setting up debating the trial framework where the proposal was they couldn't come to an agreement that the chief justice will determine what witnesses will be called and a lot of people thought that might be the most challenging votes for some of these swing states, senators, and it was 53-47 party line vote. >> yeah, it will be interesting if that vote comes back up when they're actually deadlocked what people do because now it's just a theory because they aren't necessarily deadlocked. >> and all of this is theoretical. we don't know what this is like come the end of next week. >> chad, you mentioned the american public. really just two questions for me because you know i'm always kind of cynical on these. do you think the american public is really paying attention?
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i'm talking not the inside, you know, the beltway public, but the general mass public that's number one and number two, cutting to the bottom line, is there any way in heck that this goes, you know, it comes to a vote and it goes against the president or is all of this maneuvering to the inevitable acquittal if you will david: you've got 30 seconds. >> i'll answer the second question first,sherrod brown democratic senator from ohio he thought they were unwilling to go against the president because they would tick off the base and to your first question this is where i talk about subdividing the electorate. different classes of folks where this would play one way with the presidential electorate at large in those swing state, arizona, wisconsin, ohio, i think you have to look at it through those different prisms frankly. david: chad pergram, i would normally have sympathy for you for having to work a weekend but i know you love this stuff. this is what you live for and have a fun time. >> i need to go raid the candy.
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david: yeah, i'm sure not to mention have another cup of coffee. good to see you chad thank you very much. well backlash against the former vice president wait until you hear what al gore said in davos switzerland. we'll play it for you, next. fun fact: 1 in 4 of us millennials have debt we might die with. and most of that debt is actually from credit cards. it's just not right. but with sofi, you can get your credit cards right by consolidating your credit card debt into one monthly payment. including your interest rate right by locking in a fixed low rate today. and you can get your money right with sofi. check your rate in two minutes or less. get a no-fee personal loan up to $100k.
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>> this is the battle of the bu lge, this isdunkirk. this is 9/11. we have to rise to this occasion david: now, regardless of whether you agree that climate change is a crisis or not is comparing the threat of it to 9/11 going too far, gary? >> well definitely. this is a disgrace, and it's horrible that he said that. 9/11, as we all know, was a terrorist act by people that hated the united states. climate change, we all agree there is climate change. scientists do not agree on what's causing climate change, how to solve climate change, if we could solve it, is the price worth it? i'm glad al gore is not president. >> well they are very different things so they shouldn't be put together. an act of war, a terrorist
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attack where people lose their lives. david: you wouldn't say what al gore said. >> because climate change is actually very different. it's a slow-moving disaster that involves a strategy, you need a plan, you have to listen to the scientists. i actually do think the scientists have a very broad consensus of this , so they are very different things and they shouldn't be conflated in that way, which doesn't diminish the seriousness of climate change. >> but this is what is exactly wrong with climate is that they are always making such a hyperbolic case and talking about armageddon, these terrible things about to happen and people tune out. if you talk to me about sensible problems and sensible potential solutions i can get on board with that but this constant alarmism talking about and the bringing in of every disaster is oh, my gosh an example of here we are, climate change because there are fires that have been set by climate lunatics in australia it's really hurting their cause, and al gore is absolutely number
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one proponent of that in my view david: by the way there are a lot of different fires. >> i get that. >> obviously he was trying to do this with a shock factor but it was grossly insensitive and i really took it personal and i'm the one that actually went through the bombing in 1993 as well as 9/11 and it was very traumatic for me, and i lost a lot of friends during 9/11, so using that to try to actually gain attention and pushing his agenda so to speak and he's been doing it for what? he's been doing it for over 20 years, first he invented internet and now saying the inconvenient truth he's been trying to push this narrative for decades and now here he is right now. >> with a lot of miss truth. david: it wasn't the only insult to the victims but those who sacrificed so much, their lives or part of their lives because of what happened as a result of 9/11 but i want to stay o climate change and change it a little bit, bring it back home. california restaurants are adding an optional surcharge to
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your bill to help combat climate change, that's what they say. the group organizing the effort claims the program could quickly raise over $10 million but this extra charge you see is optional. it's optional, so will californians put their money where their collective mouth is, gary? >> first question is let's just say they got it. let's just say that it was wild ly successful, and they got $20 million. what does that money go to? if i'm going to add money on to my tip and quite honestly i obviously would not but if i did i wouldn't want to say okay, i added an extra $5. where is the benefit of my $5? >> well it's actually going to encourage more sustainable farming which i think is a good idea. it's voluntary. listen, climate change, we're acting like it's not an issue. the scientific community is an overwhelming consensus. >> no, john, that is so not
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true. >> it's ridiculous. >> please. >> people i think are going to be judged very harshly in the fullness of time for denying it and i actually think it's a moral responsibility. >> oh, my god. are you -- we're not doing that now, and you know, there's some people who don't agree with it but if the overwhelming consensus is happening to liz's point we can be smart about how we deal with it and put forth pro-growth policies to deal with it but if people want to give money to deal with climate change -- >> one of the offensive aspects constantly offensive to me is that china is by far and away the biggest emitter of emissions david: and india. >> the united states has done a good job partly because of the left wing people out in california and elsewhere and because of fracking, the thing that oh, you know, the europeans refuse to do. europe is the single-most uneducated group on energy and greenhouse -- david: john, gary's head is about to explode.
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>> i just, i just, well maybe in a politician's view, this is another great government program that government can talk but unless we're like in the era of the star trek enterprise where we're just one big community, as liz pointed out, china, india , they all report to one big guru, we're not going to solve it no matter how much money. >> but this is the point. listen it's happening so there's the concept in business called the first mover advantage, and the question is is the united states want to have the first mover advantage, and actually -- >> we have it. >> well that's because we've actually done some things but the question is do we want to continue to do it? they're not doing it. >> so it's not working why should we continue something not working? >> the only way to solve this is the number one oil exporter that's our first mover. and let me back on this. >> the question is are we going to lead on the innovation needed >> everything that has started
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like this in terms of voluntary has become permanent, right? we already know the democratic play book. anything that they actually introduce, the overall plan, and three and five years is to make the tax permanent. david: you're talking about the california tax now, gary are you okay with that idea? >> i don't think any tax should be permanent. >> [laughter] >> in california. david: but john what do we do, what do we do about china and india, as liz is saying? we could go down to zero, or negative. we would create cleaner air in the united states and still have this problem. >> i agree with you and it's going to take us working together as a global community and the problem is bigger than china and india. >> where are you living right now? oh, let's get out. >> look at china has actually done, they have the leading solar technology around the
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world. >> and coal powered plants than anyone else on the earth and we're exporting more coal to them. because they are using more coal >> i'm pretty confident if i were to take a bet on advanced energy technology and you were to make a bet on oil, in 50 years, i'd have a much higher return. david: we're just burning the natural gas because we have so much of it. >> and we should be exporting it. david: we can all agree on that one. >> exporting will actually raise the price of it here which will make renewables more competitive, so everyone should be in favor. david: let's end on a positive note we have great natural gas reserves and we could sell them abroad and it's clean energy. former president obama may soon tell the public how he really feels about bernie sanders, a fox business scoop is coming up, next. t. rowe price experts go beyond the numbers to examine investment opportunities firsthand, like biotech. because your investments deserve the full story.
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ly knocking 2020 candidate and socialist bernie sanders weighing whether to publicly rebuke the vermont democrat. listen. president obama believes that bernie sanders is both unelect able in a general election and he's a bridge too far. what we have right now, behind the scenes, is a civil war in the democratic party. david: john delaney do you think charlie is right? >> i don't think he will come out and say things publicly. i think he comes out and talks about policy publicly but i don't think he will single out senator sanders. i know he feels like senator sanders push for medicare for all really did undermine the affordable care act, because i think it did, because bernie basically went around the country saying we didn't do enough yet it passed by one vote and it was a transformative step forward in my opinion. david: i've got to ask you specifically, do you agree that bernie sanders is unelectable? >> i think it's a lot harder to elect someone. i can't say he's unelectable who knows but i know this.
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the 2020 election is going to be decided in the center with independent voters and moderate voters and i think it's really hard for bernie sanders to win those voters with some of the things he's running on so i think if he's our nominee that's one of our toughest battles i think. >> so the interpretation is he's not electable. david: no one knows. >> so when you look at president obama, he's already been signaling, right, in terms of pushing the agenda and platform too far to the left. bill clinton also tried to tell individuals that in 2016 in terms of making sure that the message and the voter outreach is to middle america and i think that's what president obama is doing but on the flip side, he's also attacked joe biden indirectly so look at it. the establishment is going after bernie, undermining biden, do you know what? who are they paving the way for? >> [laughter] well first of all he was interested in beto o'rourke, apparently, that's what his donors have told me, and that
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didn't work out too well and then he moved to pete buttigieg so maybe he's looking for a younger generation that actually fits with obama's whole sort of view? david: what about uncle joe? >> well he could have come out in favor of uncle joe a long time ago he's not going to do it but i'd challenge this. if he doesn't like bernie sanders because of policy john if he talks about bernie sanders policies not working, that has to include elizabeth warren, because there's really like a piece of paper difference between the two of them. >> again i don't think president obama is going to talk specifically about the candidate s. i don't think he's going to endorse any or come out publicly but i do think he makes his opinions known on issues and i could see him making his opinions known on a couple issues. like listen he has scars from his fight for the affordable care act and so he knows this notion of making private health insurance legal is preposterous. david: do you think he cohen doors you? >> he's not endorsing anyone. david: but do you think he would endorse you if you were
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the nominee? >> i believe president obama just like all the democrats running for president, are going to campaign for the nominee, entirely and completely, so there's no question that president obama is going to back the democrat and do everything he can. david: gary? >> well i think obama is no different than any other past president. look his number one goal right now is to furnish his own reputation. he doesn't want anyone coming up that could make obama look sell iter than he was, so i think he's afraid sanders if elected might say oh, my gosh this is so much better than obama. i don't think it will be. he should probably be campaign ing for sanders in that case to make obama look like tomorrow as jefferson for crying outloud, but i'm sorry. i think obama will and i do agree with john, never come out and say it because he doesn't want his name pinned on someone that might lose, but i think he will position his thoughts so that the candidates that he
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supports makes him look the best >> i think that's complicated. david: quickly. >> i think jeremycorbin kind of situation. i think bernie sanders is not electable and i can't imagine that obama doesn't understand that. david: moving on, president trump set to unveil his middle east plan on tuesday. has he found something israelis and palestinians can finally agree on? on your mind? we are a 97-year-old firm built for right now. edward jones. it's time for investing to feel individual. aleit's a master stroke ofe's heartachew. and redemption. the lexus nx. modern utility for modern obstacles. lease the 2020 nx 300 for $359 a month for 36 months. experience amazing at your lexus dealer.
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david: well you heard it here first, yesterday at this time we were telling you about president trump saying that he will release his long-awaited middle east peace plan before israeli prime minister benjamin
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netanyahu visits the white house on tuesday. president is saying palestinians may not like the plan at first, but that ultimately it'll be good for them and they will like it so john delaney what do you make of this? >> listen i think we all want there to be peace in the middle east. i think we all, i know there do, want there to be a two-state solutions that the parties agree to themself, that's the key, it has to be something the israelis and the palestinians actually agree to. it can't be imposed by the united states or any other group. that's always been the challenge and israel has been in a tough spot because they've been negotiating with someone who hasn't recognized their existence, so it makes it -- david: they continue by the way authority to draw maps white house israel. >> so that makes it very hard to negotiate a deal but the key in all this stuff and listen we all should hope that we have something soon, on middle east peace, with the two-state solution. but it has to be agreed to, by the two parties and it can't be imposed. >> but i think it's fine for obviously a white house to
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try to lead, bring those parties together but they have to agree with it. >> well, yeah, i mean look, that's obvious. i think what trump is trying to do is exactly like carter tried to do, like nixon tried to do, anyone that has tried to facilitate these negotiations i think is doing a good thing but be honest with you maybe how long have i been living through this for almost 50 years now i suppose these negotiations, it's like next we're going to hear the solution to oil and water getting together, it's just not sure it's ever going to happen, but i applaud him trying. >> i applaud him trying but the truth of the matter is that peace between the palestinians and israelis is not as important as it used to be. the reality is -- david: what do you mean by that >> because when is the last time we talked about this? this is not a burning issue. much more important as iran, it is getting israel and the gulf states sort of loose coalition to confront iran, that's the
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hotspot in the middle east right now. it really isn't israel. >> i kind of disagree. i think that it's actually really important at this point, and i think president trump already signaled how he's going to go about it. i think in past times, it was ways to try to figure out leading with peace or how do you divide the land, i think president trump's motivation, and focus will actually be economics, in terms of providing incentives. making sure that yes, two-state solution, but how are you actually going to be able to finance and make sure that your independent land, so to speak, or side of the land is actually viable. i think that's what he's going to do. david: john delaney will money seal the deal here? >> no it's really important obviously and israel has been kind of a miraculous country from an economic perspective and if you look at the successive entrepreneurship there and obviously we would like more of that to be spread around the whole region, but it's
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deeper than that, as we all know david: it is a tough nut to crack. >> but listen we should all hope for the best here, and but recognize that its got to be something. david: there are precedents of miracles in the past but it takes a big one. well sin city is ditching its unforgettable slogan, so what could possibly be better than what happens in vegas stays in vegas? we've got the answer, coming next. >> ♪ ♪
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>> for nearly two decades now, we have all heard that what happens in vegas, stays in vegas. they may be retiring that slogan. what happens here, only happens here. that will be the new catchphrase. it will officially be unveiled a commercial said to air during the grammys this sunday night
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gary, is this new slogan really better than the old one. it. >> it's going to be the greatest error since new coke. lol not allowed. >> i never understood why new york moved on from the i love new york campaign. it was successful. >> i think it is going from cincinnati to sapi city. shame on them. >> there going from prostitution all of these other things. >> well. >> in any type of slogan. i don't think it's going to work. the aura of sin city actually attracts people. >> the john, this issue could be the cornerstone of your campaign you realize that. >> what you did say is going to be quoted in every paper throughout the nature. >> on this issue, i healed my time to gary another choose though. >> more time. >> think of all of the movies.
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if he is now going to get my vote. >> is it worth registering for a democrat do that. >> all right again, thank you very much for joining us. we will see you back here next time. >> cc confirmed a second case in the u.s. of a on the virus and it is looking at 22 states for potential exposure. as china restricts the quarantines about 40 million people, is more than the state of california. the death toll is climbing. update and a big economic warning from market pros, and were going to tell you what it is that which has a plan. we have a top money guide, look at the white china control population. so impeachment, democrats ending their case today, arguing that the president illegally stumbled

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