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melissa: you will be checking security at the caucus, doing check work, he is in charge. connell: "bulls and bears" starts right now. see you tomorrow. david: a fox business alert three big stocks moving back after hours, microsoft, facebook, tesla reporting after the hours. we break the numbers down later in the show. >> today we're finally ending the nafta nightmare, and signing into law new u.s.-mexico-canada agreement. usmca is largest fairest, most balanced and modern trade agreement ever achieved. david: i am david asman, on "bulls and bears," president trump signing the historic u.s.-mexico-canada trade agreement into law.
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usmca it to cover more than 1.3 trillion dollars of commerce. second major trade deal secured by trump administration this year, we have reacted from larry kudlow, but first, the panel. scott martin, robert wolf, steve forbes and liz peek. with president touting impact with the usmca trade deal, the impact on the economy. >> usmca is estimated to add another 1.2% to your gdp and create countless new american jobs and make our blue collar boom, which is beyond anyone's expectation. for the first time in american history we have replaced a disastrous trade deal, that rewarded outsourcing with a fair and reciprocal trade deal to
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keep jobs and growth here in america. david: we're pleased to have white house economic count director, larry kudlow in a fox business exclusive. great to see you, regarding usmca, what will this treaty do for growth that nafta could not. >> president outlined it very well. and a lot of the chapters in here are path breaking i hope templates for future trade deals, one is the new economy and old economy. in terms of manufacturing automobile sector, we struck much better balance than the prior deal. domestic content is high arer, certain -- higher, certain wage contend will also be higher, and a looa lot of labor rights thatr existed and a lot of environmental rights that never existed before. on the new economy side, i
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confess this my favorite, intellectual property protection will be major boost to technology advance and direct investment in united states, that is a huge job creator, on top of that we have expanded in the digital services area, technology -- financial, biologic, and i think this president mentioned in agriculture, big breakthroughs. not an easy thing to do i might add, giving ambassador lighthizer huge credit. we made big breakthroughs on things like dairy products and wheat. in total, upper boundary for potential for economy growth, 1% gdp increase about 600,000 job, a hundred billion in new investment. they are hard things to model-a new estimate but they made the
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the estimate, from stand point of real rembrandt eding some -- remedying. this will be a tremendous deal. >> this is steve, any news on european front. is that going to go the way of the usmca? no trade war, the last big cloud on the head on trade front. >> steve, we had a very good bilateral meeting in davos with the new president of the eu, a very good meeting, her trade minister commissioner, phil hogan. we have been in a lot of touch with mr. hogan. she and president trump got a long very well, they talked about urgency pitting some intensity behind it. it will be up to ambassador lighthizer at his discretion and wisdom to follow through there are a lot of key areas there. trade is very important with the
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-- funny. eu trade is actually -- well, e.u. trade is a little bit more than north american trade, both of them are twice as big as china trade, i don't know if people know that. that is where we have been pushed usmca. can we get it done with the eu? i don't want to forecast, but i pg you will kind of see a restarting of intensity. >> this is liz peek, thank you for joining us. bernie sanders is not happy with the usmca. you may have heard, that he thinks there is a missing chapter, one that really corrals oil and gas pumps and prevents them, i am quoting, dumping their environmental waste to mexico, what is he talking about? >> that say good question. i don't know. i can't answer that question that almost a medaphysical fe. i want mr. sanders, i respect
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him but i completely disagree with his point of view. clean burning fuel what about natural gas and exporting lng, canada, united states and mexico have vibrant energy sectors, as you you know. mr. sanders, socialism model may win the primaries, i have no idea, i am not smart enough to forecast but it is noting and we would adopting o -- or should er adopt. david: and larry kudlow is not a socialist. >> right, my boss is a free en pe-- enterpriser. we disagree and reject with all due respect, lord knows, senator sander's view. >> i am a capitalist as well, i
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applaud the usmca. today the cbo announced they forecast the deficit of 1 trillion dollars through 2020. you have been a fiscal conservative you know for as long as i have known you, maybe over 30 years now. what do you say about the cboreport, how do you think we can take this deficit on? >> well, look, the deficit is running about 5% of gdp . that is a manageable number in my judgment. we need strong economic growth, to work our way through the deficit, also would be nice to limit spending. you can't always get the spending restraints you want, more on that in future. i want to just say about the cbo report, i had not read it carefully but have seen a couple
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memos shared this morning that shows cbo revised significantly higher its revenue estimate, such has we paid for corporate tax cuts and paid for the entire 1.5 trillion overall tax cut, because the faster growth than they predicted. nominal gdp coming in a level higher than they predicted, average tax rate is covering the tax cut. now i'll go through it myself with a find tooth comb, i have been in transit the last 24 hours. but i just find that very -- david: good point. larry, switching to china, government economist in china is warning that that virus could drag down that economy, he said below 5% growth level. if you truffle chinese figures -- if you trust chinese figures, we have jerry pow will saying p,
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they will check you on that affects their economy and gul saying they will goes all of the offices in china, how much are you expecting to virus t to efft our economy. >> very little, as j powell said today, this is a chinese pandemic. i want to note, we just had an oval office meeting covering a number of subjects including this one, at china's invitation, the u.s. secretary azar is sending our best cdc experts to china, to work with the world health organization. and the chinese government. that is a first time we made that decision, we're happy to do it, it part of our engagement with china, we want to help out anyway we can, we have a lot of very smart people that know how to deal with public health issues, we'll send over a batch of the cdc experts. regarding the gdp estimates, i
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don't want to go there, it will be very difficult for china, the issue is, you know chinese -- this is not going to have any major impact on united states i go back to i guess 2003, the sars epidemic, always a lot of pessimism. but it is virtually no impact on our economy, i don't think thats is a chinese pandemic, we'll do everything we have as americans and america government to help system self this rapidly. >rapidly. david: scott. >> this scott with that impact with china. you think that gives us, any more leverage with respect to a phase two part of trade deal done faster or easier with china? >> well, look. i don't want to mix the -- i don't wan want to conflate the
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subjects, china has a serious serious public health problem, i guess thousands of people are dying, we want to help them work through it, okay? we want to help them, not about leverage and this and that u.s. and china, reached a major historic phase one tried trade agreement, they are engaging as never before. we have to work through issues on trade, on the economy. on human rights, on national security. and now on public while, public health will stand alone that is how we look at this. we want to save lives if we can and help them to get 3 this virus pandemic soon as possible, this is a stand alone issue, not related to leverage or anything else, we're just trying to help folks this is a decent human instinct, i don't want to over think that. david: what do we see tax cuts phase 2?
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>> you mean 2.0. >>ia. yeah what? >> i think sometimes this summer during campaign, we'll lay it out a lot of corporations on all sides, it excites me, lower tax cuts. steve forbes, inverne invented m following up what he taught me. david: best we do with forbes is keep pace. >> thank you larry. david: 3 major movers after hours, what everyone will talk about tomorrow is next. as a struggling actor, i need all the breaks that i can get. at liberty butchemel... cut. liberty mu... line? cut. liberty mutual customizes your car insurance so you only pay for what you need. cut. liberty m... am i allowed to riff?
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david: 3 major companies moving big after hours, jackie deangeles is following the action. tesla in particular, 11% after hours. reporter: i will save best for
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last we start with bad news and run through facebook shares down in after showers hours, this stt all-time high today, visitors were expecting them to hit it out of the park. it was a 3 cent beat, slightly better than expected but investors were looking for something big, they did not get. now microsoft for a moment. we hear from amazon after hours tomorrow. but microsoft did see a beat in terms of quarter, a 19 cent beat on earnings per share, cloud revenue was strong that is where they compete with amazon. >> tesla, as you mentioned they hit it out of the park after-hours trading more than tenders higher, two -- more than 10% higher, 21 cents better than expected, elon musk is executing and shareholders and investors are rewarding him for that
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interesting because, china could be an issue for this company, they just rolled out that plant and started delivering in china, making cars in china, the coronavirus is a little bit of a concern, but most people are writing that off, saying probably will be a short-term blip for the company. rest of news is positive, guidance for company, 500,000 deliveries, this is one to watch, stock up 120%, since reported not so great in october of last year. david: 650 bucks, around 650 a share amazing. >> staggering. david: president tweeting out, we have quote hottest economy on earth. so, these earnings, say anything about that claim, what do you think? >> i think they do, to some degree, earnings numbers are amazing revenue numbers good. but stocks are at a points, some, a asy jackie said, they at
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up for perfection if they don't put out numbers that above and beyond wall street's wildist dreams, the stocks will get hit, be aware while the economy is strong the numbers are good, stock prices are high. >> true, but that is why -- you are right, we need good earnings result to justify the current stock prices, apple set tenor yesterday with unbelievably good strong numbers, we've seen continued performance from consumer spending, anything to do with the consumer is rocking. that is what we want to see, on tes lark i would note -- tesla, i would note most analyst were recommending to sell, it was not positive, i wonder how much the response after hours is short covering. >> i would say that main of these is not fabricated on the economy, let's look at te tesla. tesla is a 110 billion dole ar
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company, they will do 500 thousand dollars next year, they have a great year. a country we do 60 million plus. they are not trading on any multiple or growth trajectory, they are trading that everyone is betting he is the next jeff bezos eover next 10 years -- >> what does robert wolf think in. >> i would never short elon musk, not sure i would buy but i would never short. >> months ago i had a -- with catherine wood, she said that technology is moving so great, not only for tesla and electric cars, she told me then she predicts 5 years 6,000 a share. david: woe. >> woe. >> what does steve forbes think? >> i'll go for the ride. david: scott would you buy now. >> not after this move, but, you know funny can comments about just analyst in some other
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people out there upping that price targets now, now people get on board, as robert said, musk as a faith and confidence that i believe shareholders have, and some doubt ires doubtd haters, are coming around, i just would wait for more pullbacks and dips. >> don't bet against elon. >> joe biden confronting an iowa voter after sparring over climate change, telling him not to vote for joe biden, is that a good strategy? more on that coming next. when i got my dna results, it opened up so many doors.
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else. >> you want to replace the gas lines, that not going to work. >> thank you so much. >> whom ever i pick is capable of being the president, i'm an old guy. i am serious. i -- thank god, i am in great health, i work out every morning. i am in good shape, knock on wood as may mother would say. and thank god i am in good health. >> is that a winning strategy? >> i think it is, this joe's no malarkey through iowa. he is a yen wea a -- genuine gud likeable. so my view is, joe has to be who
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joe it, look authentic and not good at faking it he never has been, we were chatting a little bit, like mccain. david: straight talk express. >> i think what is going on in it polarizing environment. david: steve, you were a straight talker, what do you think about what biden is doing now in. >> he has not endorsed the flat tax, i'm not there yet. but biden is in trouble, bernie is now winning socialist primary against elizabeth warren, this will open it up provide a opening for bloomberg biden has not his his stride, he could lose iowa, he is not as well organized. he has to come up with themes or he will be shoved aside. >> i don't think he looks sharp, forgive me, i think his age is more of an issue than for bernie sanders who always looked combative and angry but she
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energized. biden is sort of bumbling along, he never got number two, it was first reason, and machine who younger -- someone who is younger who was the second reason? i think that his problem in a nutshell, i just don't think she very sharp. >> he is trying to show some things at times, remember. he challenged a voter to do push ups, and that clip about i'm getting up and working out. he tries to hang if you will, so, i agree, it is a sign of some weakness but i think that notion of talking about a running mate as way to kind of save his presidency, i would say effort is tough. when you think back to you running mates in the past all bad running mates have done is really kill a ticket, to rely on that, seems weak to me as well, it should be about joe, and joe only. >> right, and announcing that you may only serve one time, that should be a big national
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speech he wants to heal the nation, he will serve one term, not a one liner in an iowa caucus meeting, that is silly, that is why his campaign is in trouble. they say trump does not have discipline, jobe jeb makes -- joe biden makes -- >> i disagree, i take gaffes over 16,000 lives all day. that decent, bringing country back together he talks about unity and, i would think we would applaud that, we're in a polarize environment. >> let me -- >> what unity. >> in trouble that is not accurate, right now he is tight in iowa today. and he is leading in national poll. versus the president, he outperforms the president in almost every -- >> what happens if he loses iowa and new hampshire, some people are suggesting that is possible. >> i would have changed narrative a little, i am not sheer to endorse or tout but i think iowa is not in his
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bailiwick but i think he will outperform,. bernie beat hillary clinton by 25 on 50, that is where bernie sanders and elizabeth warren kind of saddle up to. i think he will out merform in - outperform in both, then you get to nevada and south carolina he is strong. to be determined. we would all be wrong. david: remember that bill clinton in 1992 lost iowa he only got 3%. >> obama lo lost new hampshire. david: what is life like for those who remain in the epicenter of the chris huntington? we talk to -- epicenter of coronavirus, we talk to a man who is lives there, a live interview by skype, coming up, you don't want to miss it. .
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(whistling) david: more than 200 americans are back on u.s. soil after fleeing wuhan, chinaies to scape the coronavirus there, -- china, to escape the coronavirus, some americans have chosen to not evacuate for their o own reason, our next is one of those, doug harris a san francisco native, thank you, doug, why are you staying? >> thank you, i am staying
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because i cannot bring my girlfriend or my dog. that is what is really important to me in this crisis. >> what kind of information flow are you getting? is internet operating, have they shut communications? are people confident they are hearing what is going on from government at-this-point? >> there is som skepticism on te are hand we still have full access to wi-fi and mobile data it is fast, and i have access so to media outlets i am able to fact check everything. >> with respect to how you see things going in wuhan. the virus has horcoffrage and more spreading, how has it changes in china with respect to help people who are sick. >> they have gotten more serious about it, at first there were
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allegations that they were covering it up or downplaying it, now i hear opposite they take too much of a slen sledgehr approach, i think measures they are taking are more than necessary. i believe if we were in usa, i would hope they talk take this as serious as chinese are taking it now. >> steve forbes here, one thing they think is really made this disease possible is open markets, they have the meat out there, wild animals, and just a breeding ground for the virus. not just farmers having backyard farming which is a breeder of the virus in the past. you see any change coming in the habits of the chinese? that may happen in future? >> well, i certainly hope so, even after sars there were changes about public health. and i believe after this crisis,
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there will be changes. i also believe that it is very important to note that public hygiene and sanitation various greatly from province to province, unfortunately, the prove sinc -- province has a bad representation for sanitation even in china. i hope there will be improvements. it has cost the chinese economy, this will be a pro verbial flex one even. >> i am robert, why are you healthy? where others are not, what are you doing differently, and why do you feel you will be able to stay he'l healthy, as someone i. how do you see it. >> i have listened to experts, statistically speak we're not sure whether it will be more
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dead he thamoredeadly than infl. it the age is 65, it typically attacks those who already have health problems. being 28, in good physical condition, i am more confident. and also, i have quarantined myself and my family, we don't go outside unless necessary, and we wash our hands all of the time, we wear gloves, some masks and goggles any time we go outside. david: i wonder about hoarding. is there hoarding do you see that in china? >> well there is hoarding, and first we were relying on deliveries, we're waiting for them still, which a scare
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precedent, woo foun -- we foundt necessary to walk to a local supermarket, that is a story in and of itself, at many super markets they take the temperature at door with attempt tire gun, you are turn -- temperature gun, you are turned away at the door at the super market if you have a temperature. we found a lot of groceries, right now chinese authorities requiring no matter how bad the disaster gets anyone involved with the super markets or transportation they still have to work no matter what, that is critical to prevent shoot food shortage. >> could you leave the city at-this-point, i see people in cars. they are going on. if you got into your car, you leave wuhan now? >> that is not 100% sure to be
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honest, my understanding that there -- fed, military and they are enforcing this quarantine quite well. i doubt i would be able to leave the city. >> this is scott martin again, you know great grocery store story. about the temperature taking and things like that that is kind of out of this world, but good. how much food the store, is stuff getting ripped off shelves or how is the civilian population dealing with the rules and certain quarantines are people upset? >> well, i'm -- that is my number 1 sudde -- concern, i tok coronavirus seriously, i am more concerned about food shortages and civil unrest as quarantine goes on, this is a city of millions, we have a quarantine, my concern that you know prices, and supply and demand are not creating market -- with market
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forces. or relying on state to bring in food. so my concern, you know is that we'll have food shortages in future. we're relying on state government to bring in food, we'll see what happens, that my biggest concern. we have stocked up with hundreds of u.s. of worth of food and water here. david: doug perez, we wish you the very best, stay in touch we would love to get updates on how uon the situation thank you so much for joining us, our best wishes to you and our girlfriend and, of course, your dog out there too as well. >> yep. chubby the apocalypse dog. david: doug thank you. >> romulo avelica-gonzalez saidh for impeachment will help democrats in november, is that drew? we'll be debating that next.
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david: former chicago mayor rahm emanuel predicting a big win for democrats true to impeachment. saying that unlike the clinton impeachment, voters this time will stan behind party pushing to remove the president from office. "washington post" op-ed he argues that impeachment could flip the senate in democrats favor, steve, it he right? >> he is dreaming, no more right here than he was when he was mayor of chicago, he could not turn the city around fiscaly. >> the election will depend on how well donald trump presents an agenda for second term, you heard larry kudlow talk about tax cut 2.0, you will hear president talk about healthcare starting with state of the union. and democrat offering? moderate joe biden wants to have tax increases, quite the level
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of hillary clinton proposed in 2016, big tax increases, unwinning. >> i like that steve is fiscally responsible. but he would not say that to larry. i am not in predictive analysis, i think 40 percent of country votes trump, 40% vote democrat, we have no idea the 20%. probably not op-ed i would write, i would look at what happened. only thing is midterms and 3 governor ships. dems dominated midterms and won two of 3 governorships in red states, there is momentum there. with help to healthcare. kind of winning strategy, that said, i would say too hard to assess what the impeachment will or will not be. david: what? i think that polling i have seen
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suggest this independents are not in favoar -- favoar of impeachment, they don't like the way it has gone down, i think republicans did a good job in slamming the saying that is up fair and por partisan. this a lmg wa a long way to the, americans have a very short attention span, this will not be on top of their mind during the voting. >> i know rahm emanuel well, you mentioned from his doingser not doing in chicago, he think that is impacting november stuff, i doubt it. and when voters go to polls and boxies, they think about their pocketbook, wallet, and home prices that is what trump has helped with respect to said he has given the economy and tax cuts. >> even democrats, i talk with dan from flint, michigan, i
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asked how much do his think about the impeachment they care about their pocketbook and they care about deer hunting more. >> so, i think what is important to him will be job and wages. one reason i like vice president -- former vice president biden, he takes about you know kitchen table issues, i think that is why a lot of people like -- >> jobs and wages, that means president trump gets reelect. >> yes, and democrat out campaigning in iowa, new hampshire, they never are asking about impeachment, never, they could get 500 questions, maybe one will have to do with impeachment. >> they talk about -- they won't address record low unemployment rate or history of job growth
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over 175,00 175 k a month. >> they talk about tax cuts. >> let's see what is coming up on "evening edit" with liz. >> president jumping in to impeachment fight, scorching john bolton saying he would have started world war 6 -- will senate let house dictate which witnesses to call. or is this over by friday? viewers are saying. this is dragging it out, already today, feels like monday of next week. only wednesday. and coronavirus, now worse than sars, scientist warn next phase so-called super spreaders. david: you have steve forbes laughing at your jokes already. >> boeing out with bad quarterly
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6. david: boeing shaking off bad news afternoon reporting first ever loss this morning. but investor seem confident that the worst is now behind boeing, it did well today, is it? maria bartiromo asked the new ceo david calhoun if the max 737 was really out of the woods. >> i understand that this is a long lead time, quite a significant testing process here, by the faa, sort of wear alone, you -- software alone, you have retrofitting.
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pilot to go through simulation training, you do think that all of that is the schedule to have it back in the air by june? >> we do. >> that is a confident yes for a string of problems. >> there are many on the list, for sure, and i guess, i love david calhoun's moxie, you have to be confident going into that. seeing what happened to boeing stock, trying to reassert shareholders, there was a small caveat with that interview, revealing on they need to get it recertified by june, if it getting recertified by end of gianjuneand back in air that is important for the stock. the bad news is in the stock, i am an investment visor, clients are looking to take a bite out of this stock, you look to add or get in, bad news will knock it down but we know a lot of it
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already in the name. >> i think investors hungry for this do recover, this is a great american company, have you a new ceo who appears to have put behind the company all things that could now trip them up, they have -- i think they have don extraordinary testing and fact checking on this finding more problem is not likely, i think that is why people are willing to step in. >> boeing has a good future ahead of itself hike before the max 73 simp becaus 7. there is you are dow down to bug two planes, you get more free trade. that will help boeing, which a huge exporter, one thin that i think has hurt boeing there is no -- financing that is interesting people are financing
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thefinancing. >> airline love to have competitors, boeing will do just fine, when other potential competitors have found out it difficult to build an aircraft, not so easy. david: i was going to mention what about the smaller -- >> there is a market for, that but in terms of bigger planes and boeing move to smaller market too. >> and on financing with interest rates where they are, not a huge problem. >> they need buy in from foreign airline, you need growth worldwide. will foreign airline buy in as well is question. david: i sense a bullishness long-term. >> app tie appetite for plant-bt is fading. will faux meat be a thing of the
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david: tim horton restaurants stopped selling beyond meat products at two of its biggest provinces. the ultimately our guests choose to stay with a meat option in their breakfast sandwiches. burger king dealing a blow to the faux meat market, cutting price of impossible burger due to sales. you're a big burger fan. is this a fad? >> i thought it had less meat than -- that is what unfolded here, david. people tell me though, that some of these things actually work. that they actually have a taste. i haven't found one yet. i tried them just because, try something new. david: you couldn't find any taste in the sandwich? >> steve, i tried them too. i didn't really like the taste that much. so i put bacon on it. that put the problems.
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very sacrilege that is way to get around the bad taste. bacon takes care of everything. david: liz? >> here is what i have to offer on this conversation. this is full-page ad in "the new york times," the heading fake meat or dog food. two lists of ingredients. you can't tell which is which. david: my goodness. >> if, who are the fake meat eaters. people who read the new york times. people who are woke. david: clean food facts. i imagine that represents the meat industry. >> not totally meat. i went and looked. it is a 501(c)3. >> that is a rough ad. david: rough ad. with do you think, robert? >> i would not go into wendy's or horton's or mickey d's to get a meatless burger. >> where would you go? >> i wouldn't really go get one. david: steve, full disclosure, we used to do a show called "forbes on fox." we always used
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to run to burger king afterwards. i mean i can't imagine the folks like us stuck on real meat will ever make the switch. >> whopper is better than i'm possible. david: last word from steve. that does it for "bulls & bears." see you next time. liz: two world escrow leading again today in washington. stocks moving higher, good earnings as the president signs nafta 2.0 trade deals, the day after debuting a middle east peace plan. as a new battle in impeachment heating up. tonight the president jumping into the fight head first, scorching john bolton, john bolton would have quote, started world war six. questions mount, will the senate turn impeachment into a free-for-all with witnesses? is the senate going to let the house dictate whether they call witnesses at all? no bidens? is this all over by friday with acquit of the president? the debate coming

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