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new hampshire. they care a lot with justifiable pride. >> where is the fight, right. >> most electable democrat isn't getting elected. david: it is fascinating. watch it right here with my buddy neil cavuto. see you here next time. ♪ >> we'll have a very interesting democrat race and i think we're going to have a very interesting election but, our country is doing better than it has ever done. liz: we're in break news mode. we kick it off with a "fox business alert." the clock is ticking, the stakes rising. it is now a cliffhanger, a nail-biter, a race that could show for the first time who exactly is the democrat front-runner two hours away from the final polls closing in the new hampshire primary. sanders, buttigieg, locked in a fierce battle. amy klobuchar gaining ground, drawing enormous crowds after
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doing well in the last democrat debate. we have every angle of this developing story covered for you tonight. the direction our country takes is at stake. fox news's molly line on the ground in manchester covering famously fiercely independent voters in the live free or die state and jackie deangelis standing by ready to break down the latest analysis. it is pouring into the studios now. exactly what new hampshire voters want. it is literally coming into fox business at this minute. it could point the direction who could be the winner. let's speak with molly on the ground in new hampshire. molly, what are you hearing? reporter: liz, you seem to be enjoying the suspense. what i'm hearing today only polls that matter are those folks that go to the polls to cast their ballot. the granite state electorate are notoriously late-breaking. candidates thanking the supporters. some holding signs in the dripping cold weather. what candidates hope tonight is
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the big wins and victory parties. senator bernie sanders bragged about his rally size on the trail at the polling locations but by far he was bragging about having the biggest rally of all the candidates this cycle. >> do you expect a resound being victory here tonight. >> i'm not going to speculate. all i can say, is we have worked really hard, our volunteers have done an extraordinary job and you know, i hope very much that we'll win here tonight. reporter: senator sanders holding things pretty close to the vest. he passed on a chance to take care of one candidate joe biden who will be a no show at his candidate's event ditching live free or die state to head out to south carolina. elizabeth warren was asked what does biden es early exit says to voters and she responded. >> she is not here to fight for the vote in new hampshire. look, this is what democracy is about.
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we get out here, talk to voters, we fight for every vote. i am a fighter. reporter: now most of the polls close at 7:00 p.m. tonight. there are some communities, some bellwethers make for better bellwethers than others. >> the results should come in by 7:15, to 7:30. pretty much once manchester goes we'll have a really good idea how the state is going to go. reporter: so we'll be watching the results as they pour in throughout the evening like all of our viewers across the nation. we're at the media center at st. an sell many college. we'll talk to the many leaders throughout the night. liz. liz: molly, thanks so much for your analysis. look at brand new analysis streaming into our studios at this very moment on issues that new hampshire voters say matters most to them. it could give an early read who
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might win tonight. jackie. reporter: good evening, liz. jobs news voter analysis talked to three thousand likely primary voters. remember this is a open primary, republicans, democrats can vote and our sample included all to be fair. i want to walk you through key issues we noted, so really shocking results here. the first news, feelings about the trump administration 91% say they are dissatisfied or angry, as opposed to 9% satisfied, setting the tone here for what is to come in terms of this battle between the democratic nominee and president trump. but let's move on, impeachment was also a topic that we wanted to cover. we asked folks if it helped, made no difference or hurt in terms of beating president trump in the general election? look at the difference here. only 24% said it would help. no difference or hurt. you add those up you roughly get 75%.
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that sim packful you think about the whole impeachment process, what the president went through. next question, how confident are you the democratic party nominee process is fair? this is pretty good question but the results is split. 58% were confident that the process is fair. 42% saying they're not confident or questioning it. final thing i want to show you, the question if the nominee is strongly liberal, are they going to have a better chance in beating president trump? 15% think that yes, it will be a little bit easier. 24% say no difference. and 61% say if you've got a very liberal person on the other end of the spectrum you will have a harder time beating the president. i think voter analysis sets the stage for what we're expecting to see a little bit of tonight, liz. liz: impeachment really doesn't matter to a lot of voters. looks like they don't want the hard left candidate. thinking klobuchar or buttigieg or biden would be better to go
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up against president trump. jackie, interesting analysis. thank you so much. reporter: sure thing. liz: new hampshire pushing to announce the winner after the close of polls. the results could come sometime around 8:00. to avoid the iowa caucus chaos. joe biden as we just heard, already conceded. he left new hampshire. now heading to south carolina. we're tracking this developing story. this is still a very tight race. more than one, maybe five democrats could still be standing even after tonight. four electoral college votes are at stake. "politico" reporting, quote the democrats field is so flawed even biden still has a chance. look at "the daily beast" saying, quote, the whole field, while all seem like good, dedicated people has disappointed. "the new york times" warns that new hampshire historically has winnowed the field but this year it may be different. so odds are increasing of no front-runner going into the democrat convention. "the hill" magazine has reported that. lots to discuss with rnc national spokesperson liz
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harrington. great to see you, liz, thanks for joining to us night. >> thanks for having me. liz: talk to me about the president's strategy. he is now on the ground getting right in the face of democrats in the early voting states. we've never seen anything like that. this is the kind of political warfare we've never seen before. >> we've never seen a movement like this before. we've never seen an american comeback like this before. and new hampshire, along with a lot of these other early states, are states that president trump is going to compete in, and going to win because look at the enthusiasm. when i see all the coverage into election day much like iowa, democratic voters are nervous. david: they're indecisive. they don't know who to pick because their field is very weak they know they don't have a candidate that can take on president trump or take on this booming economy. we'll be very active on the ground in new hampshire this is a state we lost by a very slim march begin, less than 3,000 votes. you bet we're going to turn out
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voters in november. we're going to turn that state for the first time in 20 years. liz: the president lost it but he did win the primary. so it is personal. it is an interesting thing for the president there. both bernie sanders and pete buttigieg still demanding an audit of the iowa vote count. trump was featured on the front page of "the des moines register." democrats spending millions of dollars, then they get pushed off the front page. watch the media say this is a weak field. watch this. >> to the voters they are very concerned with the current field right now. >> they're beginning to have that feeling of a loser. >> joe biden is almost on fumes really. >> there is this kind of real unmistakable sense of fear among democrats, particularly coming off of last week. fear of the president being reelected. liz: your reaction? >> they should be nervous. they don't have a candidate. the one candidates that democrats have some sort of energy behind is a self-avowed socialist who hon nye --
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honeymooned in the soviet union. he can't bring out crowds president trump can. he has to bring in aging rock stars and alexandria ocasio-cortez to fill up a stadium. still not the kind of numbers we're seeing for president trump. you know why? results matter. real ching is happening into people's lives, especially new hampshire, 2.6% unemployment. one of the lowest on record. liz: okay. >> absolutely people are excited and ready to go. liz: new hampshire job 2.6%. wage growth in new hampshire up about 4.7. so many see the president at his rally in new hampshire last night. overflow crowd watched it on the jumbotron in chilly, rainy weather. watch the president flex his economic record. watch this. >> together we're building the world's most prosperous economy and the most inclusive society
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anywhere in the world. it is a great thing. since my election america has gained seven million new jobs. the unemployment rate has hit the lowest rate in half a century. [applause] the average unemployment rate under my administration is lower than any previous administration in the history of our country. liz: you know what's interesting? democrat candidates buttigieg and klobuchar, they're now attacking bernie sanders socialism as quote, basically ballot box poison. new "gallup poll" shows majority of voters, liz harrington don't want it. 53% of voters don't want it. pete buttigieg says you can't put bernie sanders at the top of the ticket. he won't survive the president's fierce branding and labeling. he can't risk alienating americans. reaction to what amy klobuchar said about bernie sanders. watch this? >> i am friends with bernie. we came in the senate together but i don't think we want a socialist leading the ticket,
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no. i was literally only one that raised my hand and said that. >> why? >> you have to admit the calling card for democrats now that you have to differentiate yourself is the only candidate that can disavow socialism. it is absolutely appalling how far left this party has gone. face it, amy klobuchar is for carbon tax. repealing the tax cuts. taxpayer-funded abortion, for a public option which is the same way to get to single payer, it was designed to get to a government-run health care system. this is not moderate positions. to have the state of democratic party, nobody except one candidate is willing to say socialism is bad policy says it all. liz: you know who is saying it? the third way, a democrat think tank. they have a survey of michigan, pennsylvania, wisconsin, voters, single-payer is underwater. voters don't want it.
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why? labor unions are there in force in those rust belt states fighting for higher health care coverage, higher than the national average rates of coverage. critics say bernie and elizabeth warren are making fairytale promises. do you agree with that? the u.s. already has government-run health care, medicare, medicaid. the federal government spends 1.2 trillion on government-run health care already. that is double the pentagon budget. >> you're talking about the single-payer system kicking the health care of 180 millions off their health care. eliminating private insurance. the fact that 80% of people currently like the quality of care they receive. absolutely would destroy the health care industry, but more importantly would destroy our freedom. it would destroy wait times. it would destroy the opportunity to get the doctor you want. hey, we can't listen to joe biden, the same person who promised with barack obama that we could, if you liked your doctor you could keep it. that was the last time we
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massively expanded the role of government in our health care. how did that turn out? premiums doubled. millions lost tear coverage. we cannot trust the democrats on this issue. republicans have better free market solutions. >> liz, great to see you. come back soon. >> you too. thanks for having me. liz: tune into our special prime time coverage of the new hampshire primary tonight 8:00 p.m. eastern time right here on the fox business network. neil cavuto will be leading the charge there. next we have a real interesting debate. you want to listen to this. it is about the coronavirus. it is revealing in stark detail the breakdown in communist and socialist-run health care systems. reports coming in from the financial times, "bloomberg news," vox, they're worth reporting on this. this is the system bernie sanders wants in the u.s. the current virus outbreak may have started earlier in october in china of the story coming up. ♪. ♪ ♪
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nist an socialist run health care. the reports are coming in. financial times are saying that. "bloomberg news" is showing it. vox is also reporting it. this is the system bernie sanders wants for the united states. also this, bernie sanders will not release his own medical records. he is dodging questions that networks like msnbc about that. won't answer it. let's bring in my next guest, hud institute senior fellow rebecca heinrichs. bernie not releasing his medical records. he promised to do that last december. >> the candidate's health is a concern for people who might vote for him to be next president of the united states. that is something people want to see from him, given his age and previous health concerns. i also mentioned to the introduction you just gave, liz. those numbers of casualties in the coronavirus that is just what is being reported and there is concerns because the chinese communist party has not been transparent so far, has not been forthcoming with information and
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prompt, those numbers could be much, much higher. the chinese people obviously are right to have great concern and doubt in the truth coming out of their own government. liz: stay on that. because i dug, we're geeky and i'm nerdy. i dug. >> socialist health systems. they have often mask, for example, infant mortalitity rates to make the statistics better. they mask things that will not make things as bad as they really are. they are accused after coverup. maybe this started in october. that is what vox is reporting. rebecca, to your point, if they waited nearly two months to reveal a virus already exploding, people fleeing china, five million left, that squandered any opportunity to get it under control and could have pushed it worldwide. china cracked down on eight health care workers and a whistleblower doctor now dead
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for first sounding the alarm. talk about the censorship and bureaucratic obfuscation being a danger in communist social health system. >> in a system like that, top heavy, inimical to federalist government, where you value local government to care for people best, come from local government, move out from there for the best health care for the people. in a chinese communist government, socialist government, very top down. in the case of china particular it values loyalty to party over competency. so if you start to have individual doctors speak out and offer anything that might smell like criticism, then they immediately are done away with or shut down. and so all of this time went by and the numbers were not being accurately reported. >> stay there, rebecca. hang on just one second. i want to show the viewer, financial times, "bloomberg news," media reporting about the chinese communist health system breaking
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down. rebecca, finish your point. >> the world health organization has been saying the problem is not as bad as it is because they're taking all the data from the chinese communist party. to the report you made, there were reports from doctors much earlier on late in december this was a serious problem yet the chinese communist party allowed, massive, national, 40,000 families come together with this pot-luck dinner. they were allowing the disease to transfer among their citizens. who knows how many numbers. it was lack of accountability to the government is a hallmark of a socialist and communist-run government. liz: i want, the other headlines coming in. how xi xinping control occay lost control. how they lost their grip after brief respite. bloomberg reporting that doctors from china are not protected from it.
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they don't have supplies there. their own doctors are getting infected. the doctors and nurses say they are overwhelmed. china's grip on the virus is not working. >> no. they need to allow for western doctors to come in to offer help and assistance and they need to be transparent there needs to be concern how this disease is spreading. not even just, we need to know more how it is spreading, the source of it is spreading. even if embarassment of the chinese government, that comes with it. if you care about flourishing and care of people, you must admit mistakes and errors and fix those otherwise you will cause resentment from the chinese people, that means bad things for xi xinping. liz: if bernie sanders is the nominee, watch the president take him on in the debates on that. watch the president go full bore. we have to go. >> sounds good. liz: go ahead, rebecca, finish your thought. >> it is not a unfounded or unfair argument to say you are
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offering these massive increasing big government programs in especially for medicine and it is not a slippery slope argument, look at other countries to have that. what a disaster it has been. can we offer private sector more localized solutions so the american people have more options. we have more checks along the way so we don't have the big problems like that. that the government on a national level isn't equipped to handle. liz: like the va is doing now. fix what we got. great to see you. >> good to see you. liz: coming up, the live free or die state, new hampshire calling on politician to sign a no-tax pledge. how will that go for bernie who wants to raise taxes on the lower and middle class? a hot debate coming up. other money managers don't understand why. because our way works great for us! but not for your clients. that's why we're a fiduciary, obligated to put clients first.
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♪. liz: okay, here's a conundrum, here's a puzzle.
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new hampshire, the live free or die state, it demands politicians sign a no-tax pledge. will voters go for bernie sanders? he wants to raise taxes on lower and middle class to pay for government run programs. we'll ask what congressman tom reed's take. what do you think of this one. >> what is coming out of new hampshire is the extreme is taking over the democratic party. the leading candidates are proposing tax increases on families. bernie sanders said $29,000 and above you will see a tax increase on his administration. i don't know how a family of four can live with that type of tax burden. liz: bernie, his plan, 47 trillion over 10 years, some say 60 trillion. you're right he says he will raise taxes. at the same time it will wipe out health insurance policies for everyone, including labor unions. if you like your plan, you can't keep your plan that is the criticism begins bernie sanders. watch this. >> as you know taxes in many of
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those countries are much higher than they are, individual personal taxes are much higher than in the united states. >> yeah. i suspect a lot of people in this country would be delighted to pay more in taxes if they had, if they had comprehensive health care as a human right. >> the criticism of bernie sanders is he will raise your taxes. well, i may. that's right. you know what i'm doing? i'm doing away with all your private health insurance premiums. >> based on democrat voters more than half of them prefer to keep their private health insurance, even though "medicare for all," if "medicare for all" was option, would you give them that choice. >> nope? [laughter] >> wouldn't medicare plan wouldn't take a right to bargain for our medical benefits? >> yeah, absolutely it would. liz: why would labor unions go for that? >> i have no idea. they will have to answer for that, to the point, under this proposal, not only taxes are going up, you lose control of something as significant and
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personal as your health insurance and your access to health care that you are able to secure on your own. that is why big government solutions never work and that's why his path and his commitment to overtaking these private areas of our lives with government-run decision and power brokers is just the wrong path for the future of america. the american people will awaken to this, saying no way will which allow this type of extreme agenda to be put in office. liz: to your point we have the sound of bernie sanders saying i will raise taxes on the lower and middle class, but he doesn't even know how much his plans will cost. watch this. >> what we will do is have a 4% tax on income, excepting the first $29,000. >> will you raise taxes for the middle class in the sanders administration? >> people who have health care under "medicare for all" will have no premiums, no deductibles, no co-payments, no out-of-pocket expenses, yes.
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they will pay more in taxes. >> you're talking to a lawmaker. january 2021, they say, senator, give me a number, "medicare for all" an approximate number, how much would it cost? >> somewhere between 30 and 40 trillion over 10-year period. you can ask me how much it will cost, i don't have that in my pocket. nobody does. talking about will over $3 trillion a year what we're paying. >> you're a self-proclaimed socialist. >> democratic put in please. >> thank you. your agenda promised free health care for everybody. free college tuition and pay off people's college loans. the price tag for that is estimated to be $60 trillion over 10 years. correct? >> well, look, we have political opponent -- >> you don't know how much your plan costs? >> you don't know. nobody knows. this is impossible -- >> you will propose a plan to the american people and not tell them how much it costs? liz: just looking at that, it is like, taxpayers are treated like a rounding error. he doesn't care how much it costs. he keeps bringing up scandinavian countries like
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they're democratic socialists. bernie, we're capitalist systems. we pay for our welfare systems. they pay 15% deductibles out-of-pocket. china also has deductibles and 15% co-pays. there is no system in the world like bernie is asking for. has bernie gone down the memory role? by the way he is being criticized living off of non-profits for years. he has three homes. i mean the criticisms of bernie sanders keep rising and rising, when you look under the hood of what bernie sanders and how he conducts his personal life. >> i would agree that what he is committed to, he is a true believer, that government is going to take care of all of your problems, magically everything is going to be free but actually being honest, i appreciate that he will be raising taxes on people making $20,000 or more. i got to tell you, people are struggling already day-to-day. to say that government is going to solve this, not only price tag but the power, that you're giving government over your lives, i think people, president
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trump -- liz: is bernie sanders, is he, would he ever enroll himself in the veterans affairs administration and va in their health system? >> that is question for him. i would anticipate the answer would be no. liz: okay. >> because he recognizes the problems with socialized health care. i will tell you, it doesn't work. we're about fixing health care and health care costs. that is why president trump is going for it on a record of success. i think we have a good victory come november. liz: fix what you got. >> thank you, melissa. liz: liz macdonald. that is okay. medical list is great. >> sorry. liz: we'll get to the middle class economy. president says the state of the union address the belt of bottom half of american households increased three times than the 1%. it is right. data came in. america is staking on prosperity the fight president will take to thee democrats. the story next.
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♪. liz: have you got this trend? the president stealing democrat thunder, their media spotlight? he is going into early voting states and visiting their rallies. did it the night before the iowa caucus. did it before the new hampshire primary. he is touting the roaring economy. watch this. >> we have the best economy we ever had. the most prosperity, we have got the most pros merit we've ever had. liz: people are showing up for hours, days prior to get into those rallies. okay. we dug into the history books. no incumbent president has ever lost in a strong economy. we're showing five who lost due to recession. the lost yes, going back to george washington. they lost, 10 incumbents lost because of recession. look at this. the majority, 59% of americans now tell gallup, yes, we are better off financially today than we were a year ago.
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that is the highest since 1999. let's bring in, look who is here, editor, ceo of "the gartman letter," heavily followed on wall street, wall street loves him. he is dennis gartman. great to see you. your reaction to this. nearly 3/4 say they will do a better year from now. that is the most optimistic reading gallup has ever recorded. >> really quite astonishing isn't it? the consumer is in the best shape he or she has ever been in. balance sheets are great. stock prices going up. unemployment rate is going down. i've not been a fan ever president for many reasons because he is not a free trader and feel he is coarse at times. he has done yeoman's work for economy. let's give him a hand. the stock market wants to continue to go higher. it is moving from the lower left to the upper right, and will continue to do so. the odds of him winning the election have to be 70% or higher. liz: you're ordinarily not
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really a bull or bear, but right now you are saying the market will continue to go up? >> every time you try to sell it short, every time you become pessimistic about the stock market it blows up in your face. let's be blunt i only trade for my own account. i have at times been bearish on stock market last year, and every time i've been wrong. every time i bought stocks it is right thing to do. economy is strong, the stock market wants to go from the lower left to the upper right. the fed will continue to be expansionary. as long as this continues the trend is still up. you might fights but by any stretch of the imagination it is overvalued but it wants to go higher. liz: freddie mac says the housing market is strong. that came out today. dennis, is this most important question of all voters are now asking, listen to ronald reagan? >> are you better off than you were four years ago? is it easier to for you to go buy things in the stores than it
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was four years ago? is there more or less unemployment in the country than there was four years ago? is america, as respected throughout the world as it was? do i feel that our security is as safe. that we're as strong as we were four years ago? if you answer all of those questions yes, why then i think your choice is very obvious who you vote for. liz: what do you think, dennis? >> you could have run that right for this year and say exactly the same thing. the answer is yes to all those questions. it is going to be very difficult given the current environment for anybody to beat the president of the united states in the election. in fact i think it will be so strong not only will he gain in the house or two in the senate, he may gain control of the house which would be a, i think a real benefit. so it is very strong. your point nobody, no incumbent has lost in a rising economic variety and, incumbent lose in recesses. this is not going to be recessionary.
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it is still a bull market. that is all one has to say, liz. liz: we've been reporting this starting a year ago, that the swing voter base, swing vote to watch is the african-american vote. we've been tracking that for some time county to county in the battleground states. they are the voting base to watch and very important voting base. watch the president last night talking about this at the rally in new hampshire. watch this? >> the unemployment rate among african-americans, hispanic-americans and asian-americans has reached record lows, all time, never been lower than what it is now. african-american poverty numbers have hit the lowest rate ever recorded. wages for african-american workers have increased by $2400 per year. for deck cause the democrat party has betrayed african-americans. they have betrayed us all. liz: dennis, what do you think? >> well, hard to argue, isn't
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it. i hesitate to use the word betrayed but he, the point is there that he made are all very valid. why argue? no reason to argue at all. as i said at the top of my comments. consumers are in the best conditions they have been in years. balance sheets are best, housing prices are going up, stock market is going up. at margins you may take issue with the president. some may argue the jolts report was down two months in a row but you're arguing at the very marginal, at the margins of economics. the trend is from the lower left to the upper right as i like to say. liz: dennis gartman. great to see you, my friend. come back soon. >> thanks for having me on. always a pleasure. always an honor. liz: same here. coming up, mike bloomberg is trying to attack the president over mike bloomberg's 2015 audio where the former new york city mayor defending the racialally controversial stop-and-frisk.
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show. great to see you, lou. >> great to see you, liz, thank you. tonight we'll be joined by dr. anthony fauci, a member of the president's task force on the coronavirus. he will have the latest for us. secretary of state mike pompeo joins us as well to talk about the rising frictions between the united states and china. china expert michael pillsbury also with us on the latest developments. and former reagan white house political director ed rollins. joe biden having a little trouble up in new hampshire. we'll have the latest for you from new hampshire. and congressman devin nunes. all of that and much more at the top of the hour. please join us. >> i will be watching, lou. it sounds like a great show. >> it will, i promise you. liz: thank you, lou. great to see you. michael bloomering about trying to attack the president over audio from 2015 where bloomberg, he blocked this audio by the way from public release. this audio shows the former new york city mayor defending
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the racially controversial "stop-and-frisk" policy. here is michael bloomberg. >> there are murders and murder earliers and murder vick comes. they are male minorities. 16 to 25. true in new york, virtually every city get the guns out of hands of people. this unin10ed consequences is, people say, oh, my god, you are arresting kids for marijuana. they're all minorities. yes, that's true. why? because you put all the cops in minority neighborhoods. yes, that's true. why do you do it? that is where all the crime is. the way you get the guns off the streets is throw them against the wall and frisk them. they say don't want to get caught so they don't bring a
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gun. liz: president trump proannounced bloomberg a total racist in a tweet now deleted. bloomberg tried to hit back by saying president inherited a country marching towards greater equality. he divided us with racist appeals with hateful rhetoric. here is the president talking about bloomberg just moments ago. >> when a man is with stop-and-frisk his ol' wife, and decides to go democrat, he goes to a church, practically crying, he looked like hell, practically crying saying what a horrible thing he did, that is so disingenuous. you know what i'm talking about, fellows. that was so, of bloomberg. look, he is a lightweight. he is a lightweight. i will find that out. liz: joining me is independent women's forum patrice lee onwuka. >> thank you, liz. liz: your reaction to this story? >> oh, man, bloomberg is in hot water right now. this is exactly three weeks before super tuesday when he was hoping for a very good showing particularly in states with
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large black populations. it is not surprising now he will defend himself against comments he made. as the president rightly acknowledged, has held to for quite a long time around policing and stop-and-frisk and it is going to be hard for him to defend against the criticism against him right now. liz: black or latino men here in new york city fear being stopped by police wherever they walk. that has been a criticism of this policy we understand the enforcement aspect of it but there is a fallout to it too. it has been ruled unconstitutional by a federal judge. we get the debate here. i want to get to this. this policy predated bloomberg's term as mayor of new york but to your point and it is right, we tracked it. he first started to apologize for this for the first time in the fall of last year. prior to that going back to 2012 he was defending it. your reaction? >> as close as 2015 we have him on record as defending it and let's not forget, liz, yes, the
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"stop-and-frisk" policy was challenged in the courts. he was still mayor at the time lodged an appeal saying that you know, no, this is policy we want to continue. you know you have to wonder when he says oh, my heart towards the end of my tenure we started to reduce stop-and-frisk arrests, et cetera. you have to wonder who is the right michael bloomberg? where does he really stand on this policy? but to the larger issue, i think it is a big question how do you deal with crime. as a leader of a major metropolitan city, what was his decision-making process. how does he treat all people? particularly when you're running for the democratic nomination, they're going to hold you accountable to how you dealt with black people. liz: you know, i didn't mean to try to interrupt you. we're running out of time. i want your reaction to the president having in the past supported nationwide stop and terrific in cities like chicago? >> i think it is interesting.
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the president saw maybe there was merit to the idea of stop-and-frisk. potentially it reduced some homicides and some crime but i think at the same time he is beginning to recognize the impact that it has had on the black community. i mean the president is certainly doing quite a lot when we look at criminal justice reform in the broader sense. so you know, maybe some of the same criticisms might be brought up against president trump boy, oh, boy, much harder against michael bloom beryl. liz: great to see you. >> great to see you too. liz: love your perspective insights. >> thank you. liz: ramping up the fight against sanctuary jurisdictions. the pushback from these jurisdictions saying that the administration is anti-immigrant. that is not the debate show though. we'll break this down next. ♪ we would only hold on to let go ♪ ♪ blow a kiss into the sun
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elizabeth: attorney general william barr ramping up the fight against sanctuary cities, taking legal action against new jersey, king counting in washington, and california. our guest, brandon judd, great to have you on. your take on this. governors of new jersey and california say this is proof that trump administration is anti-immigration? >> absolutely not. this is believe that president trump is pro-u.s. citizen and protecting u.s. citizens in this
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country, he is doing the right thing, that is a systemic approach. he has presented to protect our borders and u.s. citizens. elizabeth: people say this is not an anti-immigrant debate, but this is about crime. does this fight wind up in the supreme court? >> it does. that is because we have too much judicial activism in lower courts, the supreme court they rule based on the law, they always go upon that, we can expect trump administration to win when it gets to the supreme court. elizabeth: so many cases are terrible. illegal alien previously arrested for assaulting his father, now charged with raping and killing a 92-year-old woman in new york city. and we have u.s. customs, file a complicate, they want a judge to
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get information to i.c.e. about 4 criminal illegals with arrests records. i don't want to get into detai details. they are pretty disturbing, your reaction to that fight. >> good for i.c.e., i am glad to see they are finally going after the municipal see municipality o follow u.s. law, the laws that protect u.s. citizens, this is amazing we try to protect those that violate our laws instead of the citizens that we're sworn protect. elizabeth: also the rise in meg and fentanyl could beat last year's records. >> unless we get a handle on the border, we'll always have our children die in suburbs, suburban mothers need to get behind this administration. elizabeth: thank you. >> thank you. elizabeth: thank you for having
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us in your home. lou dobbs is next, here on the fox business network, have a good evening. lou: good evening, tonight, we begin. polls in new hampshire are closing, many polls throughout the state including manchester are still closed in. the rest of state polls will open and will close at end of the hour, with 1%, are you ready? no report can be too early, no vote too small with 1%. amy klobuchar as you see there, in the lead with 30% of the early vote. bernie sanders, elizabeth warren, with 15%. this coming from are you ready? this so think about effort we went to, to put

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