go beyond the expected. to do the extraordinary. take your business beyond. lou dobbs is next. [♪] lou: good evening, president trump addressing the crooked cops and just the is department today who tried to overthrow him. he tweeted, there must be justice. this can never happen to a president or our country again. the justice department appears to be spiraling out of control. attorney general william barr has yet to bring any official to justice. now a report that barr is complaining again about the president's tweets. even threatening to quit over them, according to those reports. the justice department denying

the report. a dishail act it would be -- a disloyal act it would be. and the justice department seems to be comforting swamp creatures rather than prosecuting them. if there is one scintilla of hope for the department, it may lie within john durham's investigation. new reports that durham interviewed several of the fbi investigators who worked on mueller's special counsel investigation or witch hunt. it remains unknown who is being investigated by john durham. but what we do know is if durham follows the same model used

about it justice department of late, no justice is yet to be done. the president postponing what was styled as an emergency meeting, the federal judges association set to discussion so-called interest syringes by president trump and the justice department in federal court cases. it was called off without giving reason without telling who did the calling off. as all of that is unfolding in washington, the radical dimms, the 2020 presidential hopefuls depairing for their -- repairing for their debate. michael bloomberg will make his first appearance on a debate stage amid concerns he's buying

the debate if not the election. bloomberg's campaign reportedly paying hundreds of californians to post bloomberg messages on their social media accounts. he's asking them to work between 20-30 hours ak for their money and they make $2,500 a month. this to add to the $344 million bloomberg has already spent on his campaign. the democratic party removed donation requirements that makes him qualified and something about that $60 billion of his helping out on the qualification. joining us, byron york, it's an exciting night for the

democrats. they are going to find out what money can buy. >> there are some extraordinary things going on. today michael bloomberg's strategy team released a memo assessing the race and suggesting that joe biden, pete buttigieg and amy klobuchar get out of the race and leave this to mike so he can beat bernie sanders. lou: what was bloomberg willing to pay them? a million apiece? >> this is a case of a candidate who has not been on any balance slot yet at all. and who skipped -- they are having the debate in nevada. but he will not be on the ballot in nevada nor will he be on the ballot in south carolina. lou: aren't these things just formalities, become on the

ballot? the dnc will anoint you at the proper time and place before the convention. >> i disagree. being on the ballot matters. lou: you are thinking voters should have a role in this? >> they often don't survive voters. joe biden does not survive contact with the voters of iowa then the voters of new hampshire. he may still be alive but he had a rough time when voters came into the picture. michael bloomberg skipped the first four contests and the first year of fighting even though he says he's a real fighter. lou: i love the marquette professor who had the op-ed in the "washington post" saying we should give more power to the elites, let them make the big decisions rather than our unwashed the voters who like to

participate in the choice of our senators, home ever. >> there are democrats who were unhappy with the way things worked out. bernie sanders got the most votes in iowa. he got most votes in new hampshire. it appears to be doing well there. in national polls his lead seems to be increasing up to 32% in some of the latest polling. lou: that's a dangerous thing you are doing as you well know. when we start relying on these early polls with scant margins for error, that is large margins for error, that can barely be -- i just really am discrustful of them. this is where i like to see the voters produce what those polls say. we saw in 2016 we didn't like

the hell what they were talking about. my guess is it's going to happen again. >> the polls said bernie sanders was going to win new hampshire although by less than the polls had said. nevada is difficult. it's a caucus. lou: who won in iowa, i forget. >> bernie sanders got the most votes, but by the complicated procedure iowa uses to calculate state delegate equivalent. pete buttigieg had a small edge. lou: it had the same smell as 2016 for bernie sanders supporters. the spin much of the dnc adjusting to new realities. specifically the money from michael bloomberg that is clear for all of bernie's army to see.

here is bloomberg telling people to get the hell out of the race. he hasn't got a single vote cast in his name. he bought his way on to the debate stage and hot hell is he anyway. >> he's the perfect villain for bernie sanders an and our and elizabeth warren. how many times does bernie reach to billionaires. michael bloomberg said all this stuff we have seen coming up in oho research. he was anne arepublican before he was an independents before he was a democrat. there is a lot of opportunism going on there. >> the reason why bernie sanders supporters love him is they feel

he has been consistent forever and ever. he went to the soviet union for his honeymoon and he's still a socialist. lou: there is a song in there somewhere about going to moscow for your honeymoon. the money spent so far. michael bloomberg dwarfs the rest of the field. $344 million in a month or two. sanders, a lousy $51 million. buttigieg 34 million. then joe biden $23 million. >> i don't know if you watched any of bloomberg's stump appearances. he gives a short speech, 15 minutes. he's not very compelling.

lou: is there a joke in there? >> no, he's not standing on a box. he's not a compelling campaigner at this point. candidates get better as they go along. they start and they are not very good but nobody is watching much. but they get all this practice and they get better by the type the campaign is under way. bloomberg is starting at the top. he has no time to improve and he's not very good on the stump. we'll see how he does. lou: let me quickly as we wrap this up. this business with barr. here is a man taking on this president in public. he's wrong, the president is right. he's complaining because the president is using new media and barr is using old media to complain about the president using new media. the president is right, he has the authority over the justice

department. what the hell is wrong with barr? >> barr went on products cast television to complain about the president's tweets. i agree with the media thing. i disagree with you on the fact that the president's tweets do cause trouble for william barr. lou: whether it's fdr or president trump talking directly toe, they as fdr did, president trump has changed history by communicating directly to the american people. >> look at the substance of this. a let of the prosecutors say the suggested 7-9 year term really was excessive. and 3-4 was more like it. and bill barr took care of this. he actually had the justice department change the condition on this. lou: he didn't take care of it

until the president pointed it out the date before. >> he says he was doing it before the president. if barr was doing it before the president spoke out publicly then it makes barr look bad because it seemed to be about the same time and very easy for all the enemies to say the president changed barr's position on this. lou: they will say whatever the hell they want to distract the president and bill a.m. bar. william barr's friends is in the white house and he happens to be his boss. and the constitution says he's his boss. do we agree? >> we agree. the president has the power to do this. but in some ways president trump needs barr a lot. he's been a very effective

attorney general. there aren't that's out there. lou: this is a mistake on the part of the attorney general and he needs to move forward and do his job. and that means take the dirty rotten politically corrupt sobs in that justice department and fbi and put them in jail. byron york, you did have the temerity to disagree with me. up next, is the coronavirus on the verge of becoming a pandemic? dr. anthony fauci believes just that. also the radical dimms want to know more about the deployment of elite border patrol agents to sanctuary cities. just watch the show. you will find out all about it. or listen to raymond judd who joins us after this quick bless ands. and luckily you don't have to

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building it. we won a lot of cases in court. we were sued all along the line. in a short time we'll be over 500 miles. it's already had a tremendous impact. lou: the president earlier this evening in bakersfield, california talking about the effect of the border wall stopping at least one man from making it into the country. firefighters helping to bring them down after he got stump at the top of the wall. if you get stuck on the top of that wall we'll help you. i'm surprised there is not a stampede. we are not clear where he was taken or if he was returned. radical dimms like jerry nadlerl are make new demands of the department of homeland security.

they want to know more about the department of homeland security's plans to send elite tactical units into sanctuary cities to assist i.c.e. officials in the:performance their duties. think call the tactics of dhs quote politically motivated. this is rich. a group of of rino senators trying to push through a bill that would give amnesty to about 2 million illegal immigrants. the republicans are geniuses, led by senator mike lee, 386. called the farm workforce modernization act, also known as house resolution 538. it's backed by thom tillis,

james lankford, lindsey graham. the legislation would give illegal immigrants a green card if they worked on farps within the last 180 days. then they have a direct pathway to citizenship. it would give citizenship for up to 2.1 million immigrants. we know the number would be vastly higher. 600,000 fewer the agricultural workers who became citizens under ronald reagans amnesty bill in 1986. joining us is bra -- brandon ju, the president of the border

patrol council. can you imagine how dumb these senators are to hold up a magnet right now in an election year to illegal immigrants throughout the hemisphere saying come on up? we are open for business? >> it's absolutely insane. especially when you read the article in conservative review that talks about this. when we are still in a border security crisis, president trump last week said we are still in a border security crisis. he's going to continue that until we get it all under control. then to talk about amnesty, that's one of the main magnets that draw people across our borders. we want the number of border crossers to go down. when you have bills like this and you have the support of republicans, all you are doing is asking more people to violate our laws, then we can't folk was

we need to focus on. lou: if that's all we were doing i might be able to accept that. but let me show you what else we are asking for. i mean the u.s. senate, and the congress of the united states. if this white house has any part in these two bills, shame on them. because what they are doing is serving this president up for a divided base come november. i want to show everybody what you remember, the very famous mccain-kennedy amnesty bill of 2006. the geniuses in the republican party led by george w. bush-they had jobs they said no american would do. here is what happened to the republican party. they lost that year, 2006, 30

house seats. they were in control of the house of representatives. they lost control and 30 congressmen lost their jobs. in the senate, they had control of the senate. both houses controlled by the republicans as well as obviously the white house. they lost six senate seats and gave it up to 51-49 to the democrats. what genius in the white house, what genius in the senate, what genius in the house thinks this is a brilliant idea for president trump and the republican party? >> it's not a brilliant idea. it's a broken idea. president trump won the presidency in large part because of his immigration stance. he opposed illegal immigration. to pass an amnesty bill at this point in time, i can go to sleep

at night feeling good about myself base opposed that tooth and nail. my organization opposed that tooth and nail. but you are right. when it gutted the republican party, you have to ask yourself why would they be doing it at this time again when we know the elections are going to be very, very contentious. it's not a good move politically. but i think they are thinking only of themselves in their particular state or district. lou: i think and guy like tom til his is -- tom ti -- i thinkm tillis is committing political suicide. he's probably going to find a very rough go of it. this will divide the base like almost nothing the president could possibly do. to have the house and the

senate. mike lee, for crying out loud. it's just -- there is an old saying you can't fix stupid. this is stupid beyond belief, don't you think? >> yeah. when you look at this again. i'm for legal immigration. but when you double the numbers what this senate bill is talking about, especially in the time of a crisis, it doesn't make sense. why are we doing it at a time where we continue to have to fight for every step we get. president trump is fighting for every foot of wall that he gets. lou: these are republicans we are talking about. i want to cop plummet you, the department -- i want to compliment you, the department of homeland security. the seize ours are going down by some metrics, a two-year low.

the president is getting more of his wall and he's signing an executive order to lift and get waivers on regulations. the math showing how much the cartels are controlling mexico. this is getting worse, not better because mexico must fight this battle, at least has chosen to fight this battle alone. we are talking about 60% of the country under the control of the cartels. 20% under the influence of contesting government control. startling numbers. what are we going to do, brandon? >> i am going back to what you originally said about jerry nadler. we wouldn't have to be doing this if we would get the support of congress. if congress would fund i.c.e. the way it's supposed to be

funded, we wouldn't have to use border patrol resources. jerry nadler just needs to listen to this program to find out why we are doing what we are doing. lou: up next, my commentary on the lack of production by attorney general barr in his attorney general barr in his

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lou: now for my commentary. let's get to the matter at hand. the man we thought would be an indispensable force for good, william barr. barr has been a.g. for a year now. and we have very few accomplishments for which he can be applaud. he has treated us to a spectacle, the number one law

enforcement officer in the land, whining publicly about what is apparently the greatest challenge he believes he faces in the storm that rages in our capitol. not the shapers of congress. or pelosi, nor her nasty apprentice, adam schiff. nor is it the helmets that reside throughout our government bureaucracy. the greatest threat to barr seems to be his own boss, the president. not the radical dimms. and you never know which they will be. not the left-wing national media, as they seek to undercut president trump.

get a grip, barr. look clearly. barr's complaint against the president amounts to this. the attorney general took to old media, abc news, to whine that his boss is making his job tougher because his boss habitually takes to new meet yeah, twitter, and talks to the american people and gives his opinion as well. the attorney general is wrong on several counts, including taking on his boss in public. then the stories he's thinking about quitting unless the president quits tweeting. that's a dumb ultimatum. it's classless, it won't work, and the president has the constitutional duty and authority to run the justice department, period. it's time for the attorney general to deliver on his mission, clean up the rancid, politically corrupt justice

department and fbi. they are both crooked at the top and the american people won't stand for more political correction. and you better be fighting for this president. he's the only one in washington who has been certified to be absolutely. and the u.s. senate. get back to work. too many of us put our faith in you and john durham for you to flag or to fold. go after the damn bad guys and stand up for the president who is the only whown deserves our loyalty along with every one of our fellow citizens. this leads to our poll question. do you believe william barr needs to clean up the justice department? cast your vote on twitter @loudobbs. up next, a development in the

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lou: a breakthrough in the race to develop a vaccine for the coronavirus. at least it's an earl

breakthrough. the researchers creating this 3d atomic scale map that shows the part of the cyrus that infects human cells. allows it to infect human cells. and the research mapping could hold a key to the treatment for the virus that's affected 75,000 people globally and killed 2,100 others. 99% of them in china. joining us is dr. anthony fauci, the director of the national institute of allergy and infectious diseases. there has been some encouraging news, and i would like to begin there. first the chinese to the degree that we can accept their reporting are talking about a diminution of cases spreading in

their country. how much should we make of it and how hopeful a sign is it? >> over the last few days in a row they seem to have less cases progressively less each time. if that's true, that would be a good sign things might be turning in the right direction. but we shouldn't change anything we are doing or expect anything different because this may just be the fluctuations in the up and downs. though i would rather hear that it's going down rather than going up, but i wouldn't put much force into that's until i see a real trend of multiple days in a row. right now i think we need to stay put in what we are doing and continue to do the same type of containment that we have done over the last couple of months. lou: i want to turn more to what may lie ahead of us. first go to another hopeful sign

it seems. that is at the university of texas and the national institutes of health, there has been what is described as a critical breakthrough in the effort to create a vaccine. what have you got for us on that? >> i wouldn't call these breakthroughs lou. we have a number of organizations and individual investigators developing a number of vaccine candidates. i described to you a couple of times on this show the one we are working on that i said would get into clinical trials in a couple of months. that's right own schedule. there have been a number of basic science approaches. in the era of good news, i think it's good that we have a number of candidates moving forward to be tested. you are correct in that respect. lou: a number of ch channels

working towards that same ends. let's turn to talking with ken cuccinelli, talking about the prospects of how we are going to react. we were discussing at some point as some countries are doing, russia dee ming entry to all -- denying entry to all chinese people simply not letting them in. where are we now in terms of scenarios and prospects. if as we are hearing increasingly from some, particularly in public health, that a pandemic is in the offing in all realistic probability, what should we be expecting? >> right now i think you said it correctly. we are on that brink that could go either way. the real fundamental definition of a pandemic is when i have the transmission in a sustained

manner in multiple regions and countries throughout the world. what we have is a single country having a serious problem, china. there have been over 25 countries including ourselves who have what's called travel-related cases and some human-to-human. but within those countries there hasn't been the fully sustained human-to-human transmissibility. so we have a window of opportunity. if we can get china to continue to suppress any further cases which they have not been successful in doing, because you still have a lot of cases each day. but to have the other countries do a good job preventing the progression to sustain transmission. we successfully have done that in our own country. lou: can we continue to do that

without controlling and tightening our borders, our ports of entry, and limiting the amount of travel certainly to areas -- to the area that has 99% of the disease right now? >> we are doing that. and that's the point, lou. when you have a single entity, country or region in which the problem is focused, and you have an epicenter, we are done with our travel we strikes traveling to china as well as people coming from china. and the situation has worked. but when you have multiple countries that could potentially feeding people into our country, it becomes difficult if not impossible to exclude everybody. the limited exclusion seems to be working. lou: we are also hearing stories that some companies are

declining to have any container shipments because it's still uncertain how long this virus can survive without a host, that is in the open. these stories are building up now, which i guess is human nature. and what we would expect. but how concerned are you about that sort of thing if indeed it could be a transmission avenue for the virus? >> it's very, very unlikely you would have a container of, you know, of ghoods, hardware goods, computers and things like that that get on a ship in chain a and go across the ocean to seattle or san francisco to have transmission of a virus that's viable that can infect people. the likelihood of that is very,

very, very low. lou: dr. anthony fauci, we appreciate your counsel and extraordinary knowledge. much continued luck. dr. fauci, thank you. we would like to hear your thoughts on all of this. follow me on twitter @loudobbs. like me on facebook and follow me on instagram @loudobbstonight. tomorrow jaeson jones, kt mcfarland and robert rayw are among our -- our guests. gordon chang is next. stay with us.

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lou: joining us tonight is gordon chang, fellow at the gait stone institute. you heard anthony fauci say we are at the brink. this could become a pandemic largely depending on how the

chinese do and how they perform in containing the coronavirus in their own country. >> you have to be concerned about that because china is not allowing u.s. cdc personnel in there. they are not allowed to go to wuhan. they might as well be in iceland. we have to be mindful that china is not helping this. and as dr. fauci said, this could become a pandemic. lou: this country is doing everything it can. it's encouraging to see that the university of texas, the nih researchers have come up with a 3d atomic mapping of the virus. it appears it could have been done earlier if we had had access to everything happening in china. american science and medicine

are responding and vigorously. you don't have a chinese political establishment willing to fully cooperate with the united states or the world. we'll come up with the vaccine. but the question is, will this virus outrace our efforts. and this will be a close thing. >> china reports the prime minister of great britain, boris johnson wants to get in on the belt and road. >> what's happening here is the chinese leadership is very sensitive because of the coronavirus. it's under attack at home wind attack across. it wants someone like boris johnson to say things that support the communist party programs like the belt and road. >> to be clear. i'm not attacking in any way

president xi or the communist party that it oppose on every level. we are talking about a possibility of a pandemic that threatens american lives. that makes it a serious matter. and face is not the issue. it's national security and the safety of the american people and that's why the president is doing what he's doing. >> we have a good cdc. they kept a number of internal cases stable. you have got all those cases coming in off the cruise ships. lou: dr. fauci said getting those americans back sheer was exactly the right thing to do. i agree with him. president trump making a big change in the intelligence community. and you will be standing up applauding or at least you should be. we take it up with national security expert jim hanson.

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the 15 seconds of fame. the foul ball. but the most important moment, happens when we all stand together. stand up with us. lou: president trump announcing a new acting director national intelligence. the president announcing the ambassador to germany, richard grinnell will take over the job as dni from richard mcguire. jim hanson, former u.s. army

special forces, national security and foreign policy think tank and jim, it's good to have you with us. ric grinnell. what do you think of him? >> i love ric grinnell. this is a fantastic moved by the president. he has had so much trouble with people in the intelligence community undermining him and leaking to the press. he needs somebody sitting atop that giant mess making sure the intelligence community supports the president's goals and u.s. policies. ric grinnell will do that. lou: i agree. ric grinnell has been loyal to the president. fiercely without compromise. my had's off to him for the way he performed in germany, and i think as to you, i'm delighted hear you say that. a great dni.

the president right now, he has a balancing act to carry out with china. the issue of both national security at the same time dealing with the coronavirus, the trade deal, the historic trade deal, it couldn't be more complex, could it? >> he focused on china from the start saying they were manipulating currency and cheating for a long time hurting the united states. now he's got a chance to show a little compassion in helping with the coronavirus and hopefully cop out the other side with some humanitarian credit from this and also a bit of a good trade deal. >> and the continued good relationship with president xi i'm sure is his objective as well. come back soon. we would love to talk to you more. that's it for us tonight. we thank you for being with us.

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