tv Trish Regan Primetime FOX Business March 2, 2020 11:00pm-12:00am EST
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♪ trish: all right. joe biden may have taken south carolina, but tonight we are roughly 30 hours away from a socialist possibly capturing super tuesday and thus, quite possibly, being on his way to the democratic nomination. good evening, i am trish regan. even though the democrats are desperately trying to stop him, comrade bernie is well on his way to being the most anti-american democrat nominee e in the history of this country, and if he were to ever win the presidency, i'll tell you, it's game over for our country, for our economy, for our future, for our children's futures. america is facing an identity crisis with a socialist poised to take the nomination.
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granted, as i said, tonight the democrats are trying to prevent that. they've got amy klobuchar and pete buttigieg dropping out of the race to endorse joe biden. now, if bloomberg were smart, he would actually get out of the whole thing as well. but you can't buy senators, right? if -- smarts, right? i'll tell you. if you think investors are spooked about the coronavirus, i bet you ain't seen nothing yet, folks. if bernie sanders wins -- and i don't think he can, but it's not impossible so don't wouldn't it out. if he wins after nearly 250 years as an established country, as an established capitalist economy, as a beacon of hope, america as we know it will no longer exist. the values we have always upheld, they will no longer be american. of course, that's the goal, right? i mean, if bernie sanders were to win the presidency, i don't know, what happens to us? what happens to our economy? what happens to all our
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wonderful innovation? our entrepreneur, our ceos? if they are not properly incentivizeed everything they're not properly rewarded. i mean, what happens to us on the fourth of july? i kind of like that holiday. are we going to replace it with may day to celebrate international workers instead? heck, he might. in all seriousness, it's actually not something we can joke about, because this poor excuse for a man, this comrade that took his bride to the soviet9 union -- lucky her -- and bashedded our cup on their soil during the height of the cold war, bernie sanders can and his communist social army, they would be all pleased to say bye-bye to everything that has made america great. they want to leave our strongest values, our protection of our human rights and our protection of property, they want to leave that behind. you see, that's actually what makes us different than the rest of the world. i mean, many things, right?
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there's only one america. but fundamentally what really makes us different is our american respect and legal appreciation of individual rights and individual property. individual rights, individual property. i emphasize individual here. because we believe in the individual. government protects our rights as individuals, our rights as property ownerrings. we come together, right, as a community to insure those protections. we pay taxes for it to insure our individual security. that is where government comes in. but comrade bernie and his thugs finish and, yes, i call them thugs for a reason. take a look. you should see them. you should listen to them. >> when do we want it? trish: because this is what they think is okay. comrade bernie, rather than condemn them, chooses to pretend they are not part or at least not a big part of his
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contingency by ignoring this radical element in this particular case they're harassing a lawmaker, won't let her out of her car. sanders is encouraging his thugs to engage in hate. comrade bernie has been enamored by and an instrumental part of the fringe left for decades. i mean, back if his days as mayor in burlington, vermont, he was encouraging this stuff. back then it was the height of the cold war. i was a school keyed in nearby new hampshire hiding under my desk with my classmates during routine regular nuclear attack drills because our country feared getting annihilated by the soviets, all while comrade bernie, then-mayor of burlington, vice president, was happening a soviet flag in his office. mayor bernie sanders was playing for his city's softball team which he named the people's republic of burlington. hmm.
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then there was his town's minor league baseball town, the vermont reds. you get the picture. you see, comrade bernie thinks that by taking from peter to pay paul, he's a kind of robin hood, protecting the population from thievery. and that's not actually what happens. just look at cuba. look at nicaragua. look at the former soviet union. look at venezuela going on right now. they grease the wheels. they buy influence. they become a part of the system, and they become one of the chosen few, the bureaucrats controlling an individual's destiny. but the people, the people, the ones in bernie's america, they're the ones that lose out. they will lose out to bernie. remember that. and just look south to our latin american neighbors to see what's really going on right now in a socialest country like
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venezuela. that is tonight's intel. joining me right now is a venezuelan activist, debbie d'souza. it's good to catch up because i know you've been at the forefront of the wholen venezuela issue. you have a lot of family still there, and you've experienced and your family has experienced firsthand just how awful that place has become over, what, the two decades as they embraced chavez and now maduro. what is it americans need to know? >> americans need to know that a bernie, a united states of america with bernie as president would be absolutely catastrophic. they have, they have no idea the amount of crime, the amount of homelessness that they would see all across america. they can look at, they can look at l.a., they can look at san francisco, maybe some parts of new york. that would be all of america. trish: people try and bal true
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wis inhere. maybe it's more fair and you get to have a living wage or whatever, andrew yang and his folks were calling it, free college, free tuition, open borders. this is very utopia. but in reality -- i mean, sounds great to some people. not to me, but it sounds great to some people. in reality, that utopia starts to crumble, and you've seen that firsthand. >> well, hugo chavez lied about who he was when he came in. my a grandparents would have never voted for him had they known he was a full blown socialist. they voted for him in the first election, yes, in 1999. he fooled a lot of people. he said that he was going to fix venezuela, and if he was not a good president, he would step down after phi years. they get to be president for six. he would step down voluntarily. trish: that didn't happen.
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i was working at goldman saks, and we were trading -- goldman sachs, and we thought, well, it can't be that bad. >> it was that bad. >> it was that much worse. in a 20-year time, you get a country that enjoyed a high standard of living in latin america going to utter poverty. the video we're showing is people actually trying to get water out of a sewer area, and they'll have to clean it, of course. they don't have food, water, electricity. that's the reality of socialism that people forget. >> that is exactly the reality. i get texts if my aunt all the time through what's app, debbie, you know, please help me, help me. and if it wasn't for us sending her very little money at a time because we can't seven her too much, she would probably be dead by now, trish. trish: debbie, thank you so much. good to have your perspective on all of it. quite a warning. okay. far-left nbc host chuck todd demanding the vp if name names.
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>> i will tell you, there's been a lot of irresponsible rhetoric among democrats and commentators -- >> who? name names, sir. it just feels like gaslighting. name some names. we're all big people, name some names. trish: hey, chuck, tonight i'm naming names. how about these dems to start? >> this is, this is not a way to run a nation. >> disrespected science and scientists. >> trump is incompetent. >> what he's doing is late, too late, anemic. >> this administration is in total disarray. trish: chuck, do you watch the news? do you read a paper at all? tonight i have even more evidence to op open his eyes. stay tuned. also tonight, what a contest, john harwood still trying to beat out jim acosta to be cnn's most biased correspondent. >> is this a comic book version of a presidential campaign? >> the economy's been growing since six months into barack obama's presidency.
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>> it was dark because he's made clear that his mind is dark. this is somebody in deep psychological distress right now. trish: coming up, you not going to believe the despicable anti-trump dance john harwood's doing after u.s. markets had their worst week since the 2008 financial crisis. but first, why did obama jr. wannabe, the little mimic, pete buttigieg, actually drop out? >> just a thought. >> brings us together. >> this country was built -- >> it's a movement reaching church basements -- and at our schools -- >> [inaudible conversations] >> shines as a beacon around the world once more. and this is our chance to answer that call. trish: next, did the empty suit sell out for a biden top spot? i'm going to show you some evidence right after this. don't go anywhere. good♪ ♪ [ applause ] thank you.
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near the white house. an themty suit -- empty suit. i'm curious what happened. why did he just hours before tell "meet the press" this? >> every day is a day that we've reached the conclusion pushing forward is the best thing we can do for the country or for the party. trish: is it because he cut a teal? a cabinet position, maybe vp for joe biden's ticket? nice he's teaming up with -- at least he's teaming up with joe biden, not bloomberg. >> we've got mini mike, but i think he's out of it. pocahontas destroyed him. he didn't know what hit him! he's going, oh, get me off of this stage! [laughter] get me off! [cheers and applause] get me off of this sage! trish: okay. kind of funny. nothing wrong being short, of course, for the record.
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though there may be a little something wrong with eating salad with a comb. she must have been really hungry. that's the amy klobuchar thing. i think depress. it was supposed to be a segway because she's announcing she's out too. are the democrats finally coming to their senses in this last ditch effort to box out comrade bernie? because that's sure what it feels like. we're just waiting on mike bloomberg. joining me right now is amy tarkanian, former nevada gop chair. what's your thought on this? he's out there saying, no, no, it's good for the party, he goes on national television and says that, then reroutes his plane. amy klobuchar dropping out today, this is pretty unprecedented, by the way. i looked back into the history of all super tuesdays when that became a thing back in 1988. we've never had a situation where two candidates just drop out mysteriously hours before we go to the election booth.
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what do you think's going on? >> that definitely confirms that there is panic with the establishment, and panic with those moderates in the democrat party. the fact that the pressure is mounting heavily to have both of these, quote-unquote, moderate candidates drop in the same within 24 hours, you're right, it is up precedented. but i think also, too, you know, the writing is on the wall. if polling does hold, neither one of them were going to pick up enough delegates, so i think it was probably a win/win for those two. trish: okay, so those two, you've still got some others in there, mike bloomberg included. the longer he hangs on, the more he's taking votes away from joe biden p. do you think we're going to see him fold too? >> i caught some of his town hall on fox leading up to your show, and i think that he tried to do a fairly decent job one on one, i be i think once he comes toe to toe with the president, he's going to be eaten alive.
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knox. >> going to him, no, not at all. trish: in some ways, right, because you've got to be able to deliver. the american public expects that. we live, you know, for better or for worse or n a media age. and you need to be able to convey that personality through a television screen. and unfortunately, mike bloomberg, that may be his greatest challenge. he may have all the accolades in the world, but if he can't connect, it's like hillary clinton all over again, isn't it? the that was her problem, amy, she could not connect. >> absolutely. yes, absolutely. and for his social media network that he's got, you know, moving at a very fast pace out of the blue, it's because he's had to hire people on his -- yeah. with all those quick-witted comments. no, it's not him. he's had to hire people to help him look -- trish: people make fun of donald trump for the spelling errors, and i'm like, hey, at least we
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know he's doing it himself, right? when i tweet it's not all perfect. i mean, that's just the reality of it. >> me either. trish: but when mike bloomberg tweets because it's not him and it's probably looked over 50 times by somebody else, yeah, it's a little too perfect, and america doesn't like a little too perfect. >> no. we don't like polished and perfection, and that's why we like president trump. we like that he's authentic, that he's real are, he's a fighter and he has our back. i think mike bloomberg is going to not do very well if he a happens to be their nominee. trish: so who do you think it's going to come down to? do you think joe biden could pull it off, or are we looking at a socialist topping their ticket? >> you know, it's going to be a lose/lose situation for the democrats, because we -- i think that we are heading towards a very chaotic convention. and either way that it goes, you know, sanders' team is going to say, hey, look, we got the short end of the stick once again because you're going to have all of those delegates on that
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second, third round ballot that are going to go towards biden or maybe a bloomberg. but still in the end it'll be president trump. trish: amy tarkanian, thank you so much. far-left anchor chuck todd saying the media is politicizing the coronavirus. that's actually fake news. >> i will tell you there's been a lot of irresponsible rhetoric among democrats and commentators -- >> who? name some names, sir. >> on the left. >> it just feels like gaslighting. please, name some names. we're all big people here. trish: gaslighting? i mean, have you ever watched your own network? our cnn at all? >> let's not play politics with public health. >> this is not playing politics. >> i don't think this is the time to take shots -- >> don't want to attack the president on this, i want to work with him. trish: coming up, i have more evidence -- hopefully it'll open chuck todd's eyes and ears. also coming up, the media's next big lie that president trump
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called the coronavirus a hoax. >> we saw the president even call it a hoax. he called coronavirus a democratic hoax. >> donald trump said this was a democratic hoax? trish: i have the sound from president trump that the media is unethically mischaracterizing. you need to hear it for yourself. but first, criminal charges may be on the way from the investigation into the origins of the trump russia hoax and the fisa abuse. ranking republican member of the house judiciary committee doug collins, he has all the details coming up next for us right after this. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ you work hard for your money. stretched days for it. ♪ ♪ juggled life for it. ♪ ♪ took charge for it. ♪ ♪ so care for it. look after it. invest with the expertise of j.p. morgan, either with an advisor or online, through chase.
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to see the indictments. joining me now is ranking member of the house judiciary committee georgia congressman doug collins. congressman collins, good to have you here. >> good to be with you. trish: no report a la mueller, what was that, 500 pages. you think it's going to come down to actual indictments. >> i think so. i think we've got to remember bill barr put him in charge because, one, he's a litigator, one who actually has investigated his own before. he actually knows what he's doing. he's a tough-minded person who's not going to put up with the fluff that surrounds a lot of these high profile investigations. he's going to go desperate to the grand jury, and he'll either make charges or won't make chargings. trish: you're making me nervous. he'll either make it or he won't because it seems to me he ought to be making some. >> i think he will. but i want to be very clear. a lot of times we want to go straight from a to c and remember that there, b. look, when bill bar actually
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went with him to europe, when he introduced him to other folks who are pieces of this investigation, when they opened it up to the intelligent community, when clapper and brennan all of a sudden had to start getting worried they were going to get subpoenas and go before a grand jury, those are the kinds of things that made me think this is an investigation that's not simply not finding anything, they're going to make sure it sticks. trish: we know of one lawyer already that was there and fudged a bunch of paperwork so he could get that fisa warrant. do you expect him to be looking at an indictment along with others? >> i would hope so, yes. you can't -- i made this statement just the other today when we were in a speech i gave. it was at cpac when i said, look, i disagree with the attorney general on the mccabe issue. he should have been charged, he should have went before a court, and if he could make his case and get out, that's fine. but normal people out there do not believe they can lie to the
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police and get away with it. but he admitted he lied, he was fired because he was lying, and yet we're not charging him -- trish: the deal he got, right? going down at the same time, so it was a really good juxtaposition. so mccabe gets off scot-free? why would that be? >> again, why did he make the case? i'm not sure. go to michael flynn. i mean, this is the thing we've got to work on. that's why i put the confidence in durham that durham has a necessary tools, he has the necessary ingredients to make it, but he wants to make sure when he makes this case, in my opinion as someone who's been in defense and some prosecution, you want to make sure the case going to stick. trish: so any sense of timing then? >> i'm hoping this spring. i think we're getting closer. i think that there's been enough time to go through this. a lot of this has been discovered or, and we're finding it out, so i think we're going to see this in the next few weeks, few months and see, hopefully, some accountability
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finally come to action. trish: congressman colin, thank you so much. good to see you. coming up next, even congress people, including democrats, are confronting cnn about politicizing this coronavirus. >> let's not play politics with public health. >> this is not playing politics. >> i don't think this is the time to take shots. >> i want to work with him. trish: far-left msnbc host chuck todd is pretend like he didn't see any of it. also the media's next big lie, that president trump called the coronavirus a hoax. >> we saw the president even call it a hoax. >> when he called coronavirus or a democratic hoax. >> donald trump said just several days ago this was a democratic hoax? trish: i have the sound from the president that the media is up ethically mischaracterizing. you have to hear this for yourself, it's important. don't go anywhere. i'll see you here next. ♪ ♪ we made usaa insurance for members like martin.
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♪ ♪ trish: tonight mainstream media and the leftist dems newest hoax, fighter back on them. the mainstream media, the president never said the crohn that virus was a hoax. he said the democrats' attacks on his handling of the crisis was and is the new hoax. and he's right. >> now the democrats are politicizing the coronavirus. they tried to beat you on russia, russia, russia. they tried the impeachment hoax. they tried it over and over. they've been doing it since you got in. and this is their new hoax. trish: he's right. you know, they've done nothing but accuse him of mismanagement from the very start. "the washington post" out with its headline that reads, and i
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quote: inside trump's frantic attempts to minimize the coronavirus. notice the use of the word frantic. as the media commentator ors pile on. >> the white house's messaging has been all over the place this week. it is more than just a lack of leadership. >> vice president mike pence this weekend tried to allay some concerns saying that 15,000 tests are in the mail. that's still not a lot. >> unfortunately, we did not do a good job -- >> why did the government not do more on testing? why has it been so slow? >> agencies across the government turning out to have been already compromised, if not gutted. >> the longer that this administration offered false reassurance, the longer the scandal the is going to go on. trish: let's be clear, the president is completely justified in his frustration and in his accusation. when you start hearing about whistleblower 2.0, you know something's up. but here's the reality, while the insane media works overtime
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to mock his efforts, the president is meeting with the top u.s. pharmaceutical chiefs. >> we have a big meeting with the biggest companies, really the most powerful companies, hopefully, the smartest companies anywhere in the world when it comes to drugs and vaccines, because we're talking about a vaccine. maybe a cure. that's possible. so we'll see about what. but we're talking about a vaccine. and they're moving along very quickly. we've asked them to accelerate whatever they're doing in terms of a vaccine, absolutely. trish: of course, that doesn't stop the media. i mean, shortly after his rally on friday night, the one with where he called the democrats out for their accusations about him, the media misinterpreted it and initiated a kind of stampede, if you would, lead by msnbc's brian williams and trump hater michael me. michael moore. >> talk about the danger to have president calling this a hoax. >> i was in your green room just a little bit ago when i watched that for the first time, i heard
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him say that, and i have to say it really sent a chill down my spine. s which is more dangerous, a virus or a president who says that? trish: and sure enough, the liberal media and the democrats, they pick up on the queue. but don't -- on the cue. don't tell that to chuck todd, right? who's trying to invert this entire thing, pretending as though brian williams and michael moore didn't say what they said on his own darn network. >> i will tell you, there's been a lot of irresponsible rhetoric among democrats and commentators on the left. >> name some names, sir. it just feels like gaslighting. please name some names. we're all big people here. name some names. [laughter] trish: you know what? i've got some names, chuck. in fact, not only do i have names, i'm actually going to play some sound for you. watch. >> attacking, trying to blame democrats. we saw the president call it a hoax from the rally stage that night.
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>> he was pressed about his comments where he called coronavirus a democratic hoax against his presidency. >> the idea that donald trump said several days ago this was a democratic hoax, what in god's name is he talking about? what in god's name is he talking about? has he no shame? trish: so there you go. chuck todd. might help you to watch a little tv, maybe read a few papers. hey, maybe even watch your own network. now, for the record, this is what they were responding to. watch. >> now the democrats are politicizing the coronavirus. they tried to beat you on russia, russia, russia. they tried the impeachment hoax. they tried it to over and over. they've been doing it since you got in. and this is their new hoax. trish: you get it, right? the democrats, the democrats and the way that they have politicized the virus to try and
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help themselves, that's what the hoax is. let's play it again. >> now the democrats are politicizing the coronavirus. they tried to beat you on russia, russia, russia. they tried the impeachment hoax. they tried it over and over, they've been doing it since you got in. and this is their new hoax. trish: so, in fact, what the media did, as they like to do with this president, is they took it all out of context. you know, just as they've done with headlines like, let me share, cnbc's, trump says that coronavirus is the democrats' new hoax. "usa today" saying trump says coronavirus is democrats' new hoax. you know what? that is just irresponsible, it is inexcusable. you do not as a journalist take comments out of context. very few people seem to understand that these days.
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but occasionally you get a few lone rangers out there. very few. but the occasional few. let me share with you, credit where credit is due, scott pelley here on "60 minutes" calling out mike bloomberg. >> i find it incomprehensible that the president would do something as inane as calling it a hoax, which he did last night in south carolina. >> he said that the democrats making so much of it is a democratic hoax, not that the virus was a hoax. trish: he's right. you know, meanwhile, does the media feel no sense of responsibility whatsoever? cnn has treated this story like their missing plane saga, remember that, wall to wall constant coverage. at least with the plane they weren't actually scaring anyone. but this? >> coronavirus, high threat. infectioned -- >> infection. >> out there. >> out there. out there. up detected. undetected.
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>> game-changer. >> pandemic. >> pandemic. >> point of no return. trish: this is what you call fear mongering. there needs to be a level of appropriateness here. there needs to be responsibility in the media, yeah. this is a virus that we must be extraordinarily careful of. we need to be realistic, however. shutting down flights on iran from china, that's realistic. delta and american airlines suspending travel to milan for a month? realistic. smart. we also need to keep things in perspective. case in point. remember swieb flu? also known as h1n1? the world health organization reports based op one study at least one in five people worldwide, one in five, were infected with swine flu during the first year. more than 12,000 americans died. coronavirus hooks very different right now -- looks very different right now. roughly 80 cases have been confirmed in the u.s., and there
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have been, tragically, i believe we're up to 6 deaths. i'm going to confirm that with my control room right now, 6 people that have died. very different. very, very different. the reality is, you know, you've probably got a better shot of winning the lottery at this point than getting the coronavirus. not to say you shouldn't be careful, and you've got to be careful. caution should be urged, but we don't need to drive ourselves crazy here. heck, there's a war on hand sanitizer and masks all across america right now. the shelves are clearing out. my local cvs doesn't have hand santize. that's craze i, right? as a nation we need to be smarter than this. there are democrats and members ostles media that want our nation to reach this level of hisser hysteria that would doom our economy because they want donald trump out of the white house. >> he is lying his [bleep] about it. it is going to get worse. and then instead of fixing the problem, your president is going to sulk. by the way, when the virus gets
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bad, he's going to declare martial law. trish let's be honest here, right? let's call the bias out for what it is. and remember, america will get through this. we've got a lot more show tonight. coming up, hollywood's far-left loonies love to threaten the president's life. >> i have thought an awful lot about blowing opportunity white house. >> when was the last time an actor assassinated a president? >> of course i want to punch him in the face. [cheers and applause] trish: now now another comedian is joining the group. hear the threatening comments for yourself. but first, when does the media pay attention to the markets? when they drop, of course. why? so they can blame the president, of course. >> the futures looking very grim right now. because, you know what? trade wars lead to bad things happening. >> dow futures are down sharply
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as concerns rise over a potential trade war. >> this move is sending u.s. stock futures plunging. >> does the president not understand how a trade deficit works? >> it looks like the beginning of what people said was coming, a trade war. trish: white house correspondent john harwood is no exception. u.s. markets had their worst week since the 2008 financial crisis, and you'd think he'd actually won the lottery because of it. average americans lost a lot of money last week, and, gosh, you're not going to believe what he had to say. i'm taking him on after this. ♪ ♪ ♪ when i lost my sight, my biggest fear was losing my independence. mmm... good. so i've spent my life developing technology to help the visually impaired. we are so good. we built a guide that uses ibm watson... to help the blind.
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♪ ♪ trish: well, so much for the objectivity of the white house correspondent. i want you to see what cnn white house reporter tweeted out over the weekend. quote: for those keeping score, change in dow jones industrial average from the day they inaugust a rated of their fourth year in office, trump up 28, obama up 63%. wow. of course, keep in mind obama started his term with a dow that was really low because the market had totally cratered by the time he took office. in fact, his election didn't help things at all. between november when he was elected and inauguration day, there were additional losses in
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the market. president trump, on the other hand to, started with a market that had already been inflated by eight years of zero interest rates, massive, massive fiscal stimulus. all the qes. the fed was is so desperate to generate growth because obama did nothing, and his stimulus package was a total joke. we printed money for nearly a decade. president trump, on the other hand, enacted strong, i'd say brilliant economic policy. by the way, lower taxes and less regulation. which along with hissing constant optimism and don't upside estimate that, that's important, helped drive growth. as such, our markets, they soared. they were totally back on the mend too today. i mean, up 1300 points, so that's good news. hopefully that continues. but remember, this president had a media against him, right? unlike obama. and he confronted and still confronts democrats opposing everything he does at every turn. and yet the heft and obama shamelessly are out trying to
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take credit for trump's rising stock market. >> the economy produced eight million jobs in the last three years of president obama's administration. the economy's been growing since six months into barack obama's president is i. >> -- presidency. >> we're in the 11th year of the obama recovery. >> donald trump inherited a strong economy from barack and me. >> 11th year of the obama recovery. >> trump continues to try the claim credit for economic growth that was put in motion by the policies of president obama. [laughter] trish: and here's obama's tweet: 11 years ago today near the bottom of the worst recession in generation, i signed the recovery act paving the way for more than a decade of economic growth and the longest streak of job creation in american history. [laughter] dream on! dream on, all right? i'll tell you what's benefited the market during the eight years of the obama presidency, and it had nothing to do with barack obama and nothing to do with joe biden. everything to do with the
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federal reserve, the only game in town. the policy out of the white house was so anemic, so lousy, the morale so bad, mean, these guys would get a good jobs report and you sure wouldn't know it. you sure wouldn't know it because they had nothing good to say about business, about our economy and consequently, you know, people didn't feel so good about things. so the fed had to do what it did. you know, keep in mind, however, them taking credit for stuff, that was two weeks ago. how time flies, right? tonight this horrible virus out of china has created all this fear, it's caused this global market meltdown -- better today -- and john harwood and cnn want to somehow keep score and suggest that the coronavirus is president trump's fault? come on. i mean, cue the whistleblower, right? all of this stuff, shameful. joining me right now, media reporter for the hill, joe concha. joe, it is good to see you.
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you and i have talked at length about this in the past, but it never ceases to amaze me, the bias that's so inherent and so on display, if you would, at this moment in time. walk us through it. what's going on? >> well, it's dangerous too now, right? because as you said, and you rightly pointed out before, coronavirus is a very serious thing. and more than ever we need responsible reporting that brings everything into context. you put up those numbers before around swine flu versus coronavirus. how about just the flu in general, right? in the winter of 2018, 80,000 people in this country were killed by the flu. coronavirus currently has a death toll of 6. that will continue to rise, but compared to the flu or compared to other flus of the past, we need to put all that into context so there isn't a panic out there. and instead by our media we're seeing a panic for profit, because fear sells, and it motivates people to watch tv more and, therefore, ratings go up. as for john harwood, you may
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recall in 2016 he said that as a moderator during a presidential debate, i still can't believe he got the go ahead for that, said to president trump, is this a comic book campaign that you're running? he then bragged about the question in an e-mail to john podesta who was only hillary clinton's chief campaign manager. and we know this because it's in print because-revealed by wikileaks. for cnn to hire him as a white house correspondent, he's not a correspondent, trish, he's an activist. he should be working for the dnc or for a democratic presidential campaign and not serving along jim acosta because we both know exactly who they are. they give opinions, share their feelings and do anything but report. trish: is cnn even a news network at this point? i mean, i think it's a fair question the ask because their entertainment value seems to have superseded everything else, right? all day long from whatever, 5 a.m. until 12 midnight. this is what they're delivering
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up, joe. >> it seems that opinion has worked its way boo all of its news programs. with fox you hear the complaint, well, you know, the opinion is this and, look, the news people at fox news and fox business, when you're doing news, you know news. i know when chris wallace and bret baier are doing news, it's the news, tucker carlson, laura ingraham are doing the prime time stuff, that's opinion. there is a separation -- thinking trish: cnn, no separation. >> if you're bernard shaw, the guy who reported in the iraq war underneath a desk while bombs are falling in baghdad, that's a newsman. he probably watches and says what the heck is going on with my network that used to be the gold standard of news and now, as you said -- i wish i could say it's for entertainment because they're currently behind tlc, investigation discovery, hallmark channel. it's not even like it's paying -- i don't know what is going on over there, because it's not good for business, that's certainly sure.
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trish: well put. hey, joe, some news breaking this evening, chris matthews retiring, leaving msnbc. i want to show the viewers a clip of him tonight. >> let's not say good-bye, but til we meet again. trish: and then he just left. and that was near the top of the show? i'm confirming with our team. three minutes into his show. it sounds like, i don't know, he might have gotten a little annoyed at management. what's your take on it? >> i think for anybody like a chris matthews who's been on that network longer than anybody to retire 250 days before a presidential election, a political animal like chris matthews? the only conclusion you can come to is he was asked to leave. sexual harassment allegations about him not just now, but in the past, comparing the bernie sanders victory in nevada to nazis taking france, and he actually confused a black democratic senate candidate with a republican tim scott for the
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senate. all those things in one week, msnbc couldn't defend him anymore, they asked him to leave. it seems that's the case. trish: well, too bad. i had a soft spot for him, i liked him. liked him. okay. (woman) no matter what business you are in, digital transformation never stops. verizon keeps business ready for what's next. (man) we weave security into their business... (second man) virtualize their operations... (third man) and could even build ai into their customer experiences. we also keep them ready for the next big opportunity. like 5g.
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they stabbed him to death. [laughter] that would be an interesting thing if he brought that back now. [laughter] trish: john mullaney making some not so great jokes. kennedy is next, i'll see you tomorrow. ♪ ♪. kennedy: oh trish, like a dollop of heaven. this tuesday is shaping up to be super. the biggest and the primary counter just hours away, 14 states up for grabs. joe biden was a grab them by the clavicle's. is he going to build out his big south carolina win or will bernie sanders but sleepy joe to bed for good? biden won the palmetto state biomes 30-point saturday, a much bigger victory than most anand was protected. today the bp said he's the one with the big mo. >> democrats want to nominate who the democrats. [cheering]
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