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♪ ♪ ♪ lou: good evening, everybody. the coronavirus outbreak around the world is worsening. more than 90,000 cases confirmed now, and importantly, more than half those cases have recovered. but also almost 3100 have died, the vast majority of them still occurring in china. in this country the death toll has risen to six. all this as america's public health officials race to prepare for the onset of what likely be, we're told, a severe national outbreak of this contagion. which the federal government and the world health organization have yet to officially call a
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pandemic. but let's be clear, it is a pandemic, and i labeled it so a week ago. i don't know what the world health organization is waiting on, and i really don't care. we're americans, and that means we're not a nation of buttercups and daffodils who need to have every official word on the coronavirus pandemic sugar-coated and sweetened for public consumption. we're americans. we and every generation before us has faced threats and challenges without flinching. we will do so as well. today there was, i believe, a new, different and stronger tone emanating from washington as the president himself met with the heads of pharmaceutical companies and challenged them to begin rapidly preparing the manufacturing of needed drugs and pharmaceutical up ingredients necessary -- ingredients necessary to deal with this public health emergency, and the stock markets roared their approval. after last week's performance,
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the worst since the 2008 recession, the dow jones industrials today soared almost 1300 points. today the dow, the nasdaq and s&p all hitting their largest single-day point totals in history. the dow ending up more than 5%, the nasdaq and s&p up 4.5%. the markets surging in the final hour of trading, coinciding with president trump's meeting with those drug company executives. the president urging those executives to speed up their efforts to find a vaccine against the coronavirus. >> we're working very hard to expedite the longer process of developing a vaccine. we're also moving with maximum speed to develop therapies so that we can help people recover as quickly as possible. we have a lot of recovery going on. we want to see if we can advance that. it's likely that therapies will
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be available before a vaccine is actually ready, and we'll seek to bring all effective treatments to market as soon as possible. so very good work has been done on the vaccine. however, they have some good progress. lou: the president also addressing american dependency on chinese drugs, telling big pharma that we need to develop medical products here in this cup. >> the -- in this country. >> the coronavirus shows the importance of bringing manufacturing back to america so that we are producing at home the medicines and equipment and everything else that we need to protect the public's health. and i've been talking about this for a long time. that process is has already started. it started long before we ever knew about this. we want to make certain things at home. we want to be doing our manufacturing at home. lou: and joining us tonight is the president's secretary of health and human services, secretary alex azar. he's also the chairman of the
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president's coronavirus task force. mr. secretary, good to have you with us. there didn't seem to be a different tone today in washington as it's becoming clearer what the nation will likely face. officials seem to be a little bit more -- [inaudible] than they had been. is there really a change here? >> i don't know that i'd call it a change, i'd say the message remains transparent but one of confidence. what we're saying is what we've been saying -- lou: why not then call it a pandemic? because you know very well it is. >> well, in fact, i spoke today with the head of the world health organization, and i'll give you some insight into their thinking finish. lou: i'm noted -- not interested in their thinking, to be candid with you. you're center for your department, the nih and the cdc
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are responsible for the public's health. i'm flighted to speak to you -- delighted to speak to you, sir. >> well, lou, within the united states whether you call it a pandemic or you don't call it a pandemic is irrelevant. it doesn't change one single action that we would take here in the united states. not one, lou. just doesn't matter. lou: why not call it that and be just as straightforward -- >> lou, what does it add? what does it add? lou you tell me, what does it subtract if you don't? >> we're trying to engage in careful, thoughtful risk communication to people, and that means as americans, and that could change. it hasn't changed because the president's bold, unprecedented actions to protect our borders and -- lou: absolutely. >> but we are now seeing some limited community spread, it appears. we've seen some limited person-to-person transmission of the disease, and absolutely while we're on the air right now, lou, we've made an
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important announcement out of the fda and the cdc that should dramatically increase the availability of our n-95 respirator masks for use by health care professionals in the united states. so we're making advances -- lou: that's great. that is wonderful. and at the same time, do we have tests that are now available here in this country? >> yes -- lou: -- to the degree that we need them? because the ratio, as i see it, there's a better ratio of testing for the coronavirus in other countries than we maintain here. we're actually screening fewer people because we don't have appropriate testing. >> well, lou, we actually have a validated test. the cdc has had it, there's been no backlog since we've had that up and running. it's out in labs. we've been increasing the availability of it. we insist on a valid test. you know, in other countries they don't have the, they don't have the same regulatory requirements for validation, and so in other countries basically
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a hospital or a lab can just take the recipe -- lou: i understand, mr. secretary, but then i don't understand why at the same time we are seeing community spread and we know very well that there have not been test kits available that didn't work and, in fact, the cdc had test kits but they were unworkable. >> actually, lou, the tests worked. the tests work, they are validated. what happened was there were some manufacturing issues, apparently, in one stage of the test, and some labs were not able to validate it. we solved that issue. we've gotten the -- lou: so they were -- [inaudible conversations] i don't want to play games with you, and i'm sure you don't want with me, but when you use words like validated and then say one segment of their use was invalidated by problems, you know, it just -- this is not transparency -- >> well, lou, you don't want to hear it, but we've been transparent at every step of the way. there are three stages to this
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test that the cdc developed. the first two tests for the novel coronavirus, the third was for a form of any form -- any form of coronavirus that wasn't necessary. the fda concluded a week ago that wasn't necessary, the third step, that it was overkill on the test. they authorized the first two stages to be used to test, that enabled -- lou: when did they do that, mr. secretary? >> now tens of thousands of tests out there -- [inaudible conversations] >> regulatory requirements to now allow us to get rid of an obama-era burden on labs to allow any certified clinical lab out there to develop a test based on the recipe that we have produced. that should open up hundreds and hundreds and hundreds if not millions per week of tests available, lou. lou: you're making more tests available? >> yes, absolutely. of hundreds of thousands and millions per week will be are available as a result of the regulatory relief that we granted on saturday morning out of the fda, relief from an
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obama-era fda requirement that required any lab-developed test be approved by the fda. we said in this emergency situation, we are authorizing those certified labs to create their own on test based on the recipe that we have published -- lou: you had plenty -- i'm sorry -- >> testing immediately. lou: mr. secretary, i apologize. i apologize, but, frankly, you've just said that you had plenty, and now you're acknowledging that you didn't. i don't want to get bogged down in this, i mean, i really don't, but i do want to understand how bad is this going to get. are we going to be talking about it -- what is the planning and the thinking of the corona task force for the americans who are watching this broadcast who are all adults and who want to know the facts? hard-boiled, straightforward, no sugar-coating and no pedantics? >> lou, we're planning for all scenarios. right now we've got a fairly limited scenario, but we've planned for the full range.
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right now we're working with santa clara county and king county in the state of washington on community mitigation recommendations, and that's the appropriate step to take. but you can go all the way from community to large community to national mitigation steps, and we'll take all measures needed to protect the american people. but we don't need to do it until they're necessary, and that's -- the president has taken unprecedented action. you know, these travel restrictions that he took on china, people complained about them at the time. but they protected america. they delayed this impact here in the united states significantly, and now everybody's praising him for those measures, and we'll continue to take bold, aggressive actions. he won't hesitate. we'd rather overreact than underreact to this situation is. lou: i am not talking about steps the president has taken, which i happen to agree with you, were with the foresight and were the exact necessary step to take. you know, as a matter of fact, i'll go further, you know, this president was looking in 2017 at the dependency of this country on offshoring and -- across the
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country, the entire world, frankly, the dependency on southeast asia and china for supply chains. and he was talking about it three years ago. so i'm keenly aware of his thinking on this. and the reality is i'm talking about the public's right to know here. and that's quite a different thing. >> absolutely. lou: i have absolute faith in the leadership. my concern is how much the american people are being told that they need to know, and that is, i think, everything. >> so, lou, they're being -- they have been -- lou: let me put it this way -- >> in fact, we just in 2017 updated what's called the pandemic action plan. that's a public document that goes through how one deals with a pandemic -- lou: wait a minute, did you say pandemic? >> that is what we prepare for, pandemic status of this -- lou: do we have one? >> from active containment, through community mitigation, large scale community
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mitigation. all those steps, lou, everything is laid out very transparently about what the government would recommend. also our states have, thanks to the work that i did with president bush back in the 2000s for pandemic flu preparedness, every state has pandemic plans that we exercise, that integrate into a national pandemic action plan. as this disease progresses, and we hope it will not, but as it progresses, we will see a continued education calculation of different types -- escalation of different types of steps, and we're going to modify those -- lou: what are you projecting will be the number of cases in this country over the next week? >> lou, i couldn't possibly predict what the number of cases over the next week will be. all i can tell you is we are going to see more cases and, unfortunately, we saw new fatalities this morning, and i fear we will, we'll continue to see more. there'll be an increase. but one can't predict the number of cases we're going to see. no cup's been able to -- no one's been able to predict any cases. i wish i could, i wish i could, but you can't do that. lou: okay.
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well, with that, what do you think is the most important thing for the american people to know about this pandemic? >> in spite of how you've been describing it, lou, for everyday americans right now this shouldn't impact their daily lives. they should go about normal -- lou: how did i describe it? i missed that part. how did i describe it? >> you're -- i think you're just trying to whip people up into a frenzy here, lou -- lou: about what? >> i'm trying to get people to understand the government has a plan, we have steps, we exercise this. but in their daily life at this point, and that could change, at this point there isn't a change in people's daily existence except for normal good preparedness activities, the same stuff we would have recommended six months ago. go to cdc.gov for recommendations of what you should have been doing all along and the kinds of steps you should take now. we're working with your communities on different mitigation approaches to plan for, we have a plan, to exercise what they would do. how do you, for instance, if you
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have a community outbreak in an area, do you close a school? maybe there's some good mitigation steps there like you don't just have sessions in the auditorium or large scale recesses where the kids congregate. these are some learnings we've gotten through hong kong and singapore, and we're using them as we work with santa clara county and king county out in the seattle area to help advise them as they work on the community containment that they're facing now. lou mr. secretary, we appreciate your time. i promise not to whip anybody into anything, you know, concerned about the -- well, the body of public knowledge in a free society m i, you know, god forbid i should do that. thanks so much. appreciate it. up next, new life has been breathed into the years-long pursuit of justice for hillary clinton's use of a private e-mail server. judicial watch's president tom fitton has been at the forefront of the effort. he joins us later. also, joe biden becomes the radical dems' favorite candidate
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lou: more positive numbers for president trump and the economy. a gallup poll finds 50% of americans now see the united states as the world's leading economic power compared to just 39% who see china in that role. this is the first time -- and this is something that many americans may not have been aware of, i certainly was not -- but since 2000, this is the first time that americans now believe the u.s. is actually leading china economically. how about that? well, joining us now, former reagan white house political director, fox business political analyst, ed roll lins, blitz -- ed rollins and michael goodwin. gentlemen, good to have you with us. how about that? for the first time, i really did not know that for 20 years americans didn't believe we were the leading economic power. >> it surprised me too. i, you know --
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lou: in point of fact, we have always been. >> yeah. i mean, i guess there were some numbers when you total up all of their gdp, but the population differences, you know, if you did it per person -- lou: per capita. >> yeah. i mean, so i don't know -- lou: it's -- >> we're number one. that's been part of our whole world presence. lou: what do you think? >> i'm very pleased. the gallup poll's always kind of been the gold standard. the president's done very, very well in the polls of late. you look back over history, they're the ones that are most accurate on most occasions, so i think this is a great sign for the president. lou: the gallup poll pointing out that 65% expect hill to be reelected. >> that's right. lou: it goes on and on. it's all positive right now and has been for weeks. as you point out, ed. let's talk about super tuesday and what's it all about. >> i think it's going to be very confusing for the administration. i think bernie sanders would have won it easily e and may win it easily, but i think with
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everybody dropping out at this point in time and the mainstream media and the principal democrats all wanting biden to come back in the game, they're going to ship it in a way that it doesn't -- spin it in a way that doesn't matter. i think it's down to biden and sanders, and i think if sanders is denied, his people are going to be furious. biden's people are the establishment, they'll go wherever they want to go, and i think bloomberg is not relevant long term. lou: he is on the ballot now, and this is going to be a real test. what does he have have to do? >> well, i think he just has to keep sort of winning. i mean -- lou: keep winning? >> well, south carolina. but i think that was, that was a start. and if he can keep that going, then i think he's got, really does have a good shot. but i still don't believe joe biden can go the distance. lou: you think south carolina was a one-off. >> not necessarily a one-off. certainly, it was the most favorable state for him, and i think he'll win some others tomorrow, but i don't know that
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he can go the distance, get the majority of delegates, go to the convention as the nominee. that just seems to me to be very much a long shot. and i think michael bloomberg, no matter what happens tomorrow, will probably hang around in some way because he, too, does not believe joe biden can get -- make the distance. >> impacts on south carolina. since 1984 south carolina has only once voted for a democrat, and that was jimmy carter. [laughter] lou: why wouldn't every just throw the match? >> 60% of the state voted democrat are african-americans, no other state quite like it, and joe biden -- >> now you're going to california where hispanics are very important, and they're not basically going to sit down and break bread and say let's find a common goal here. lou: who's their favorite candidate? hispanics in this country, the largest minority group. >> well, right now it's bernie
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sanders. so we'll see -- >> he did that in nevada. but before that, that was a surprise when that happened. so neither one of them, i mean, this is the most diverse party with the least diverse candidate list right now. >> the trump plan, however they got it to the democrats, they're now going to destroy themselves between now and the convention this summer. lou: what are republicans doing to themselves? the senate, republicans coming out attacking, attacking doug collins because he chose to defy the republican establishment. let's put that up, if we could. since mounting husband senate candidacy -- his senate candidacy, doug collins' own polling shows that his campaign has been in a freefall. and collins is on a self-serving, spite-fueled political kamikaze mission that threatens to take down president trump, said the national
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republican senate committee. >> well, mitch mcconnell controls that committee and has for many years -- lou: that's really nasty stuff. >> i understand. i follow it closely. they say nasty stuff that -- about anyone that is not one of mcconnell's show. lou: should we take it back? >> get that ditch mitch picture back up again? [laughter] >> just understand he's got his own team, his open people, and he goes for his own candidates. >> well, and the person picked who's in that seat now has been a big contributor to republican causes. and i think mitch mcconnell likes the idea of having a woman and a rich one at whose family can make a lot of contributions to his committee. lou: and who wins this fight? >> i would bet on collins. >> yeah. he's a scrappy guy. lou: and it is a state contest, after all. >> yes, it is. lou: and not one that'll be decided by, i would think, the
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senate campaign committee. let's quickly wrap this up by just taking one look at bloomberg. he's got so much money it doesn't really matter what happens tomorrow, is that the idea? >> no, it does matter because what we've heard tonight, mike and i from someone on the campaign, they have bought every bit of time that you can possibly have, so if he doesn't do well tomorrow, i think you're going to start seeing him back off. >> yeah. look, i think he could easily not do well, suspend without dropping out, without endorsing biden, waiting to see whether biden can go the distance and then jump back in it looks like -- you've got to also try to show up at the convention if nobody has a majority. lou we've got to run. is the president right, are we watching the dnc and the establishment try to steal this thing from bernie again? >> oh, absolutely, no question about it. >> yeah. lou: it's what they do, apparently: ed rollins, michael
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goodwin, thank you very much, gentlemen. up next, a big win for judicial watch today. a judge, a d.c. district court judge, orders hillary clinton to answer judicial watch's questions about her private e-mail server. you remember that, bleached bytes and all sorts of stuff. tom fitton joins us tonight. we'll take it up with him. and as president trump looks to move the timeline forward for a coronavirus vaccine, one hospital is already kicking human clinical trials on an antiviral drug. dr. mark rubbing coordinating with -- ruck coordinating at the university nebraska medical center of we're going straight to the university of nebraska to get his update. get his update.
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closely with the state and local governments. we will confront this challenge together, and we will continue to do exactly what we're doing, and we're going to be very successful. a lot of things are happening, a lot of very exciting things are happening. lou: and some of the exciting things that the president is talking about, among them the first study, the first u.s. study of an antiviral drug to treat the coronavirus, and our next guest is on the front lines. he's, in fact, overseeing those trials, and joining us tonight from the national quarantine center in nebraska at the university of nebraska, dr. mark rupp. he's the infectious diseases director at the university of nebraska medical center. doctor, it is good to have you with us again. and appreciate your time. let's start with, first, the prospects for the drug that you are testing and working on. >> well, first of all, we have a
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terrific team here and, actually, dr. andre khalil is spearheading those efforts here. we are in the first clinical trial here in the united states with a drug, and this medication is inhibiting the viral replication. we've had one patient who has successfully received a study drug and has improved and has been transferred out of our biocontainment unit and continues to do well. we've had four people actually in the last 48 hours get transferred out of the quarantine unit and on their way home. so we're very pleased with how things are going. lou: well, that's very encouraging. and your sense of the president, obviously, is leading the nation, directing as much as any president could the effort to come up with a antiviral drug, a vaccine as quickly as possible. is it your sense that -- what are the limits to actually
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accelerating those efforts in such a complex effort? >> well, we certainly welcome improved federal resources try to speed up to effort. clearly, developing a vaccine is going to take some time, even in the best of circumstances to prove that something is, first, safe andal effective is going to take a number of months. we're hopeful that some of the drug trials that, again, as has been mentioned were already in progress, may be able to give us a leg up and some therapeutic options is sometime here in the near future. lou: and you talked about the four who have recovered, if you will. what appears to you to be the recovery rate generally, if one can speak generally in the coronavirus infection and outbreak? >> well, i think we're learning
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a lot yet with this virus and the outbreak. clearly, there's a full continuum of cases, everything from relatively mild, minimal symptom disease all the way up through very severe disease. and as your viewers know, even death. lou: right. >> the things that seem to be most influencing people's poor outcome is those folks who are greater in age and those who have underlying comorbid conditions, so underlying respiratory disease, cardiac disease, immune know suppressive disorders. lou: and i don't think any american has to -- i think we're all keenly aware that those pre-existing conditions, if you will, chronic conditions that are debilitating, compromised 'em moon systems for -- immune systems for whatever reason and older americans are at severe risk here. i've also heard that there hasn't been a single case, that's at least one report, of
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anyone under the age of 14 being severely afflicted with this disease. is that true? as far as you know? >> yes, that seems to be the case, that people who are younger in age and particularly pediatric age patients don't seem to have much in the way of symptoms and certainly not nearly the amount of severe disease that we've seen with older people. it's very much like older folks would have experience with influenza. so those same people who are at highest risk of complications with flu seem to be exactly the same population at highest risk from this coronavirus. lou: well, that's all good news. is there anything else that we should all know about your efforts and this pandemic, whether considered official yet or in prospect? >> well, i think there's a lot of things that people should start to do that are just common sense preparatory efforts. so, again, getting in the habit of not touching your face so that you don't self-inoculate,
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washing your hands, avoiding sick people, simple things like touching elevator buttons with your knuckle instead of the tip of your finger. lots of little things like that, stocking up at home with medications and being able to stay home from work or school for a few days if you need to. lou: dr. mark rupp, we thank you for all you're doing and congratulations on all you've already done. tom fitton is next, it's all about hillary clinton and that e-mail server of hers. stay with us, we'll be right back. ♪ as a struggling actor, i need all the breaks that i can get. at liberty butchemel... cut. liberty mu... line? cut. liberty mutual customizes your car insurance so you only pay for what you need. cut. liberty m... am i allowed to riff? what if i come out of the water? liberty biberty... cut. we'll dub it. liberty mutual customizes your car insurance
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lou: breaking news tonight, senator n johnson says he's planning his first subpoena related to his investigation of hunter biden and burisma. senator johnson wants to bring in a former consultant for blue star strategies, that's a firm founded by two former staffers of the clinton administration. in a letter senator johnson says he has records that indicate blue star sought to leverage hunter biden's role as a board member of burisma in order to gain access to and influence matters at the u.s. state department. meanwhile, judiciary committee chairman lindsey graham still hasn't held a single hearing on anything that he has promised to
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investigate and up numerous times. -- often numerous times. this weekend senator graham tweeted his congratulations to his, apparently, good friend joe biden for his victory in's primary. if a -- a d.c. district court judge today ordered the deposition of hillary clinton in a judicial watch lawsuit. the former secretary of state will have to answer questions under oath about her e-mails and benghazi attack documents. judge royce lambert stated the following the in his ruling, quote: the state department has thus failed to persuade the court that all of secretary clinton's recoverable e-mails have been located. this is unacceptable. joining us tonight, tom fitton, president of jewish is additional watch. and, tom, congratulations on this ruling and your thoughts about where this goes now. this is not the first time that a judges has said proceed.
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it is, it's striking that it's in a d.c. federal court, district court. >> yes, and it's over the objections of the justice department and the state department. they were in court in december against us on this very issue trying to shut the inquiry down. we got one or two attorneys on our side, i'm sitting there on the other side there's six borne attorneys with the government and four lawyers for hillary clinton and her aides. and thankfully, the judge overruled the objections to further questioning here because we have had more evidence come out as a result of discovery in this case. this is the case, by the way, lou, that broke open the clinton e-mail scandal way back in 2015. it's about the benghazi talking points. and, you know, the judge wants to know what was hillary clinton thinking when she was using this system as it relates to the freedom of information act, he wants to know whether there are document issues related to benghazi. and her top aide, cheryl mills, also has to be questioned. he also authorized us to
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subpoena google because there's this issue about whether one of her e-mail aides or vendors had sent all of her e-mails to a google account. so this is a broadening inquiry. it's limited in scope. we can't get to ask ever question on the, under the sun we might want to. but it's remarkable that, a, the justice department and state department oppose this. lou: the state department and the justice department? >> yeah. they were all in there yelling at about it. [laughter] every, every effort we made to get more answers, they've opposed. lou: on what grounds, if i may inquire? i mean, i hate to seem stunned, but to see this justice department again trying to shut down an inquiry into a matter that is far from settled certainly in the view of the public is remarkable. >> well, they suggested the extraordinary circumstances necessary for discovery and questioning witnesses under oath hadn't been met by the clinton
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e-mail scandal. they didn't think it was serious enough. they felt all the questions had been answered and, obviously, the court disagreed. we're getting more testimony -- we just got a benghazi e-mail showing they had a benghazi e-mail for years. they're holding back. if it had been disclosed, the whole e-mail scandal would have been disclosed years ago. and then the fbi and state department are dribbling out more clinton e-mails. the judge is upset with the way this has been handled by the state department and the justice department, he thinks hillary clinton can provide more information because she has answered questions in oath, but in writing to us, and from the judge's point of view that hasn't been sufficient, and we should be able to question her directly, our attorneys will, and follow up directly with her in person. so this is a straightforward case in many respects. what's remarkable is the obstruction we've been facing from this administration. the president said -- i tweeted about this from one of our last
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appearances. he said it was a disgrace that the justice department was still defending hillary clinton. and we'll see what happens next. we have to get it done within 75 days, lou. lou: well, good luck, and the country desperately, desperately needs the know the answers to the questions you're going to pose. and good for judge lambert for standing up for justice of all things. let me turn to lindsey graham congratulating joe and jill biden on their south carolina victory. and still, still has not done anything about investigating the bidens and burisma, the entire ukrainian quagmire. why not? >> i don't know why not. this is why we have judicial watch, because this is the work we do, because we don't rely on the senate or congress. the senate's designed to
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suppress straw investigations and, unfortunately, the leadership of the republican party doesn't want to change the rules to allow them to more easily bring in witnesses under oath. it's not like the house where majority rules, they operate by consensus in the senate even though the laws or the rules don't necessarily that. and so as a result, nothing much ever gets done. this is why i think the president should appoint a special counsel, independent, the justice department, the fbi and, frankly, congress, and order full transparency by his agencies so the american people can see the information as opposed to relying on the hapless congress or, in many ways, the co-conspirators in congress with the deep state to find out the truth. they're usually involved either in covering it up, or they're uninterested in finding it, or they really don't know what to do. >> well, tom, i have to say -- lou: well, tom, i have to i -- to say i support your idea of the special counsel because i share, as you know, judicial
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watch's opinion of the public's right to know. but i have to admit there's a small, petty insignificant particle of pettiness that would like to see the delicious moment at which the sikhs a special counsel on someone -- sics a special counsel on someone else. it would be somewhat ironic justice. tom fitton, thank you so much, as always. be sure to vote in our poll tonight. which candidate will win super tuesday? joe biden, bernie sanders, michael bloomberg, president trump? cast your vote on twitter @loudobbs we'd like to hear from the you. according to a new study, scientists say they've discovered the biggest explosion ever witnessed in this universe since the big bang, which was not actually witnessed, but it has been con generaltured about it. well, there you are. the international center for radio astronomy research claims the explosion took place at the center of a galaxy far, far, far away, 390 million light years from earth to be more specific.
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network. a new law in new york state locking federal immigration officials out of their department of motor vehicle databases. amazingly, new york state continues to share that information with canadian law enforcement. amazing. it's just amazing, to take all of this up now we are joined by the acting director of immigration and customs enforcement, matt albence. matt, it's great to have you with us, and this is a stunning story. what can you do about this? i mean, they give it to canada but not to our immigration and customs enforcement? >> thanks for having me, lou. it's really incredible. we have our officers and agents out this putting their lives on the line every day investigating human traffickers, drug smugglers, individuals that are involved in child exploitation, terrorism cases, yet we've been frozen out of the most basic of information which we need to do our job. i mean, if there's anything we learned from 9/11, the 9/11 commission report put it out themselves, there was information out there, it was
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our inability to connect the dots and share that information which was part of the problem. yet here we have a situation where you have the state of new york passed a law with a pre-9/11 mentality, and we're in a post-9/11 world. this is dangerous. lou: it's dangerous, it's frustrating to american citizens. by the way, you know, irrespective of race, creed, you -- national origin. i mean, we want a secure country, and we want our people to be secure. we do not want what happened, i mean, this story about i.c.e. and a 3-year-old child, a chicago mcdonald's being raped in a restroom in a chicago mcdonald's because they refused to turn over the predator to i.c.e. this is, what are the consequences? >> it's really incredible. i wish i could e say that was an isolated incident, but it's not. in fact, we've seen in new york just back in december we had an individual that new york state, the new york police had in
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custody for stabbing his father in the with a coffee mug, and they released him. and weeks later he goes out and kills and rapes a 92-year-old woman. an innocent victim. this is something that has played out time and time again. these sanctuary jurisdictions and these noncooperation laws are dangerous to the is citizens of this country. lou: mattal men, we're going to continue this conversation just after these quick words from our sponsors. stay with us, we'll be right when you think of miami you
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lou: we're back with matt aal benz, and, matt, when will i.c.e -- when will dhs start withdrawing money? when will the administration started hadding back -- holding back money from sang i sanctuary cities, each states? >> well, we got a significant win in the second circuit just last week. so i think that's something that looking at. it's unconscionable to give these jurisdictions hundreds of millions of dollars every year only for them to snub their nose at us and not cooperate with us. the point of that money is to cooperate together so that we can utilize all of our authorities to keep our communities safe. lou: mattal benz, we thank you for boeing exactly that and all of the agents at immigration and custom enforcement. thank you so much. >> thank you, lou. lou: thanks for being with us tonight. good night from new york. ♪
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