you are terrific come back soon. thank you for joining us. lou dobbs is next. ♪. lou: good evening everybody, the number of coronavirus cases in this country are rising. as expected, there has been an unexpected response out west in one community to that virus. in king county washington which is the county which the city of seattle is located pre-health officials there are now recommending that the 2.2 million residents of king county should work from home and the people over the age of 60 should stay home. in away from crowds. in the last hour vice president

mike pence landed in washington state, there he is meeting with the governor to talk about the pandemic and to be brought up to date on the crisis in the state of washington. in this country 12 people have now died from the coronavirus. 11 of them died in the state of washington. 70 of the country's 221 cases have been confirmed in the state of washington and earlier today the vice president was in minnesota where he visited the 3m plant, they pledged to ramp up their production with facemasks to prevent a shortage of the virus spread. during his visit the vice president spoke cleanly and candidly and just what the american people specked of their leaders. the vice president saying while there are enough test of those who believe to be exposed to the

virus, there are not enough test to be available for all americans yet. >> we don't have enough test today to meet what we anticipate will be the demand going forward. for those who we believe have been exposed, for those who are showing symptoms we've been able to provide the testing. as more americans take interest in this we want to make sure they have access to coronavirus test. we made more progress on that. lou: straightforward talk from the vice president. just what we would expect. the senate passed passing in a billion-dollar funding bill to fund the government response for the coronavirus. it's been sent to the president's desk for signature and he's expected to sign it. joining us now to bring us up-to-date as doctor anthony fauci the director of that institute of infectious diseases

and a member of president trump task force. and one of the leaders upon who we depend and it's always a pleasure to have you with us doctor and let's start with the issue of washington state, the nation is focused on washington state where the vice president is and what is going on there. it seems to be at the vanguard of this outbreak. >> that is a very good point and i think what they have decided to do in washington is actually quite appropriate. as you mentioned washington has a community spread of infection in other words it is out there in the community at a certain level, not completely sure what level but when you say community spread you are not sure who or what was the original index

case. what you need to do is social distancing. that is what the governor and the state decided to do, social distancing trying to avoid crowd, having people do telework, having certain modification of the school schedules, that is the kind of thing that prevents the interaction among people which would lead to the spread. it falls under the category of mitigation. lou: in making sure that is many people as we can protect from the virus in protecting themselves. with the help of our government at all levels. the virus itself, it is very hard to get a good sense of this. we can put up a graphic that shows worldwide from the virus in the number of cases. can we put up the full screen please. there it is. it shows 3348 deaths at this

point. almost 98000 people infected worldwide and recovered most 54000. i would like to start with the number recovered. it seems that we see that number rising as a percentage of those who have been confirmed to have the virus. is that significant? >> it is significant because even though the people who get in trouble, i mentioned a couple of times on a discussion on the show, the people who wind up getting seriously ill and dying are usually people very heavily weighted towards the elderly underlying conditions like heart disease, chronic lung disease, diabetes and things like that. where as the vast majority of people more than 80% of people do really well and what they do, they make it ill but they recover spontaneously with very little medical intervention. so that is the group -- the larger group, obviously the

smaller group are the vulnerable ones and those are the ones which the mortality is clearly high in those at higher risk, these are the individuals we need to protect, the vulnerable people who are in that category of a high risk. as you said correctly, the vast majority of people actually recover spontaneously. lou: as we are watching the response and community after community, the spread of the disease, does it amount to globally now and all of the countries in which it is spreading, is it now by any definition, is an epidemic? >> the w.h.o. is the one that makes the determination. they have not done that yet because even though there are considerable number of countries and territories, i think the latest number was 79, there is not sustained transmission globally throughout. there is a lot of countries that

have cases, there is community spread in some, some of the countries particularly are problematic. one of those is south korea as a considerable number of cases of community spread. certain regions in northern italy is another group, japan is another group. there are countries that are hit much harder than others. the reason the w.h.o. is not calling it a pandemic because they feel it has not reached the diffuse degree of spread in multiple different countries. but to be honest with you, we are not going to do anything different right now no matter what they call it because we do have a set plan of how you addresses. lou: it seems a matter of semantics in meaning in whatever the weight of the word is to the world health organization. you and the other officials leading this fight against the coronavirus are doing precisely what you have to do for an

epidemic. what is the matter, think global act local, never been sure then the case of this battle against this virus. the mortality rate, there seems in the national media almost such a sensational approach to this. the death rate, the mortality rate in this, we are not really going to know until it does reach award diffuse as you use level in this country, are we? >> again, the reason there is confusion about the stated mortality rate that you hear right now the mortality rate that the w.h.o. talks about is somewhere about 2 - 3%, maybe some days it's three and maybe some days too, but let's say between 2% - 3%. that is a mathematical

computation. what it is is you do the number of deaths divided by the number of cases and when you do that you get the 2% - 3%. but if you model it about individuals who might be infected but do not come to the attention of any medical authority because they're mildly symptomatic or asymptomatic then the denominator gets bigger and when the denominator gets bigger the case fatality rate comes down. were not exactly sure where it is right now but it's likely less than the 2% - 3% if in fact you count the people who are infected but without minimum symptoms. lou: and the vice president today, vice president pence same very clearly that we don't have the testing kits for all americans right now but we have managed to get kids for those who are symptomatic or who think they have been exposed to the

virus and i have to tell you, i personally love the vice president's candor, i think this audience appreciates, his honesty, it's what we have come to expect from this administration. to get your sense of where we are and what we are facing in the next week or two, i know no one certainly say but give us a sense of what the next two weeks will look like. >> what almost certain he will happen, we will see more cases. we will almost really see more cases in the seattle area, i think what they are doing with the social discipline excuse me with the social distancing will make the number less than what it would've been if they did not do that. we also will likely see more cases bringing up in other parts of the country.

where it ultimately winds up is going to depend on a lot of things, it will depend on how we respond, our ability to do identification, isolation and contact tracing and if, a big if if we get other regions of the country that have the same issue that were seen in seattle, a think the authorities in seattle have done the right thing in instituting this mitigation. it will depend on how that response occurs. it's very difficult to predict except to say we will see more cases. how many more is unpredictable. lou: i promise my last question, we understand that the virus has mutated at least once, have we seen evidence that there have been further mutations? >> it's an irony virus, and one of the rules is that they mutate all the time. whether that's of any functional significance mainly, doesn't make any difference in how the

virus acts is still very unclear, and likely not a significant difference. lou: as always, doctor anthony fauci, we appreciate your knowledge and sharing it with us. thank you, sir. lou: doctor one of the great medical mind and if not the nation's leading immunologist. senator lindsey graham talking out of both sides of his mouth and speaking and only half-truths. he met with president trump at the white house and talked about the senator's interest in immigration, comprehensive immigration. you remember, amnesty. in case the supreme court were to strike down the obama era daca program in this term, here is what graham had to say after he met with the president. >> we don't know what is going

to happen in june, the president has already put an offer on the table for 1.8 million daca eligible folks to have a pathway to citizenship. he wants to get something to address the underlying problem. i think the take away for me, if the court rules in the president's favor we will not allow these folks to have their lives turned upside down but we will try to put together a package that protects the daca population, also addressing how the system is so broken. we will cross the bridge when we get there. >> we don't know what bridge he is crossing, but he is speaking for the president and thus for any senator to be. let's tell you what the president has said and what he has done. the senator was speaking at the president's offer on daca from 2018 and that was to be an exchange for $25 billion to secure the southern border. 25 billion in funds to build the

wall. something the dems did not accept. there is no offer from this president on the table and that's what senator graham left out of his debriefing if you will. senator graham i also take a look at what happened to the republican party the last time that he was pushing immigration reform on a president. back in 2006, the senate approved a so-called comprehensive immigration reform act that would've provided a pathway to citizenship for illegal immigrants. you know, amnesty. in that year democrats had a net gain of 37 seats in the house in the senate. the democrats won back control of both chambers for the first time since 1994. here we are, 2020 with immensely flexible senator from south carolina trying to push the

president toward immigration legislation in an election year. and we have yet to find a single, single achievement on the part of senator graham, legislatively or politically. and according to gallup, by the way 5% approval on his ratings back in 2006. he did it in one week. a disaster for the republican party, graham seems willing to risk the presidency in the house just for a couple of soundbites that he gets to pedal to the national left-wing media. he would do well come to remember the only candidate promising to cut illegal immigration. up next, rino, mitt romney is add it again, added again saying senate republicans should not be investigating the bidens or

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too. lou: let me be clear, i'm not outraged about it at all. i think he looks like a fool, the man has never been in a fistfight, he plays a thug from new york and then winds for forgiveness. and that the way they do it in brooklyn, i am from texas and that makes me plainspoken as well, mr. minority leader. perhaps a little stronger than mr. schumer. i would have this thought for him, you're awful, you're ignorant and you're an absolute disgrace to the bronx. joining me now former reagan white house clinical director and fox business political analyst ed rollins. good to have you. you can be plainspoken as well. are you impressed that he was a thug on one day and a whining cower on thcoward on the neck. >> keeper into members of the supreme court and warned them if

they did not vote right on the abortioabortion issue the wrathd was going to come down on them. that is illegal, improper and outraged for him to make those charges. >> all the lawyers in the swamp are saying we cannot make a criminal. by the way i think it could be criminal and dolly that to the justice department but i really believe that this kind ignorant has to have a consequence. >> i think the reason he backed away as the republicans were going to. lou: if the republicans don't censure him then there the milquetoast rinos that romney is. >> i think mcconnell led up to that and the reality they should have everybody but romney. lou: i would certainly hope so. let's turn to them playing the victim. can we roll the audio of warren on sexism on the democratic

primary. >> gender in this race, you know that is the question for everyone. if you say yeah there was sexism in this race, everyone says weiner and if yoyourwhining andy say what planet are you living on. lou: sexism, the victim, elizabeth warren handing the baton often away. >> she ran and she lost big time. at the end of the day, i don't think she was ever mistreated, she was given full form on every state she was ever on and she cannot make it sale. she forgets the predecessor hilly clinton on the popular vote four years ago, i don't think that was sexism, that is just politics b1 let's turn to a senate race shaking up between

kelli and doug collins congressman from georgia. let's take a look at the backing that she has. the senate majority leader mitch mcconnell senate leadership on growth the susan b anthony gro group, all backing her and doug collins, the president he was the choice of the president to fill that seat. >> i tell you i'm a chairman and support collins, he is a fantastic member. we always believed in primaries, ronald reagan never let anybody get involved in a primary, he primary gerald ford and was very pleased when you must beat him. my sense, this is ridiculous of the senate committee to always be defended any candidate, is the one thing if it's a longtime member of the committee but if you hand a lot of money out to romney and the others.

lou: and the establishment rino romney's or romney rinos, nikki haley down -- >> no one was better for the president and doug collins, right in front of t t t t t

lou: the residing judge james boasberg issued a new order to

protect the integrity of the fisa process in that order james boasberg wrote this, fbi personnel under disciplinary review in relation to phis applications accordingly should not participate in reviewing or 70 such applications to the court why the review is pending. they had the same restrictions apply to any justice department under disciplinary review as well as d.o.j. or fbi personnel of a criminal referral related to their work on phis applications. and that is the conclusion to this point. it is not reform of any kind. joining is now president trump's personal attorney, former new york city mayor rudy giuliani. a great american and host of the common sense podcast for great to have you with us. >> how are you. >> i am great. this is one day that keeps your blood pressure a little higher, i assume it is.

i mean, we are watching a whitewash across the spectrum whether the fisa court, the fbi personnel involved, the people involved cannot apply for a fisa weren't, it's good to know that isn't reform is it? >> if you make a false statement on fis fisa application you should be prosecuted for perjury. that's the only way to ensure the take rudy of the process. i know a lot about the fisa court, i was there for the beginning, it is a very special responsibility that you have as a justice department in play. i am probably reviewed a hundred of them. there is no different lawyer, prosecutors even the good ones have a bias. you have got to take the bias out of your head and you have to play both sides . they obviously did not do that.

what comey and his gang of embarrassingly fbi agents, they undermine the credibility of fisa. and they took something that is supposed to be fair and evenhanded and turned it on president trump. lou: i have to say judge bowes o the process of those courts, but right now they are still searching for an answer. the problem is, we have three elements that are going to the fisa law on march 15 and we have a congress and the senate after watching what that court in that fbi and the department of justice did to the president of the united states are willing to reauthorize without reform. that to me is outrageous. >> it is, first of all there

should be a hearing. a hearing about the fisa reviews so the members of congress can get informed about the reforms that are necessary. i will give you one that should be thought about and that is to have someone representing the other side, to have someone who is the devils advocate to go over the work of the fbi in the d.o.j. so they're not ever left in their hands again because the fbi in the d.o.j. in general are terrific but comey became a political animal. he became a political animal completely. he was no longer a prosecutor. here is from someone who prosecuted some of the most significant cases in the last century. i respect prosecutors very, very much. the hillary clinton case is a complete fix. all of the witnesses that you could use against hillary clinton give an immunity. whereas the investigation of president trump, every witness was put in jail.

they trapped flynn into perjury, they gave everyone a hillary clinton's people immunity, 12 of them, without turning them on her. whereas 70 like wiseman tortured manafort. he kept them in solitary confinement for months in order to turn him/her you cannot fool me. i know when a prosecutor is corrupt and fixed. comey fixed the hillary investigation, that came right from the white house. that was a non-investigation from the very beginning. that is why the attorney general said don't turn it in investigation, she's at least being honest. lou: we are over time but i want to ask you very quickly, senator johnson is going after and says in the next month or two he will have a report on his investigation into the bidens, your thought? >> my thought i would taken very seriously. i would not discount the fact

that from what i have seen, i hate to say this, he's one of the few that seems to have the courage to face up to the fact that these things -- crimes have to be treated like crimes no matter whether there committed by republicans or democrats. we have to change the double standard. lou: senator johnson is the only one at this point in the republican led senate who has such guts. rudy giuliani, no shortage of guts from you. we appreciated as always. thank you so much. a programming note, i want you to know i will be defending my title tonight on tucker carlson's final exam, my opponent this week, the extraordinary bill him or, he's been rehearsing for weeks and we will meet an intellectual combat of a very high order i assure you. tucker carson tonight aired the apm on the fox news channel, you do not want to miss this.

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♪ ♪ lou: in our poll last night, we asked you if chuck schumer should be held accountable for his outrageous threatses against justices kavanaugh and gorsuch. 82of you said yes -- 82% of you said yes. 18, it shows open-mindedness and a big tent for the lou dobbs tonight show, and we appreciate it. president trump addressing the coronavirus tonight at a fox news town hall in canton, pennsylvania. -- scranton, pennsylvania. and vice president pence in washington saying the president will sign the coronavirus funding bill tomorrow. we thank you for being with us tonight. tomorrow evening we'll be joined

by others, but among them gordon chang, lauren: it's 5:00 a.m. here are your top stories at this hour. president trump is reassuring the nation he's not worried about the long-term economic impact of the coronavirus and he is set to sign a massive spend bill today to funnel billions of dollars into containing the virus. we're live with the latest on the outbreak of new cases across the country. cheryl: elizabeth warren is out. can bernie sanders count on her voters? why he may be changing his strategy. lauren: with the wild week we've had on wall street especially, might need this, put down your phone and your tablet, it's national unplugging day, this friday, march 6th. "fbn: a.m." starts right now.