next. [♪] lou: good evening. president trump on capitol hill and at the white house today selling his ideas on how to protect america and american workers from the coronavirus con the day june. president trump meeting with health understand leaders to listen to their thinking and to explain his ideas to insure workers with paychecks and healthcare if the coronavirus worsens and creates shutdowns whether airline, shipping, rail or on the highways. president trump meeting with republican senators on capitol hill.

the president pushing his ideas that are compassionate and supportive of working americans. as well as businesses that could be adversely affected by the spread of the coronavirus. the president noted the president's nationwide response has received high praise, even from democratic governors, including gavin newsom. >> every single thing he said they followed through on. so i'm not interested in finding daylight on those statements because every single thing his administration -- it starts at the top, including the vice president has been consistent with the expectation that we repatriate the passengers and do it in a way that does justice to the spirit that defines the best of our country and the state of california. lou: here is president trump obviously pleased with the work

his coronavirus task force is making and the nationwide response. president trump i think the people are doing a fantastic job. gavin newsom in california said tremendous -- an article came out and i showed hip other articles where democrat governors are saying we have done a fantastic job. gavin newsom said there wasn't a thing he asked for that we weren't able to get him. he's a critical guy, wele all are. but it was a positive statement. many democratic governments have said what we have done has been terrific. lou: the president promising the american people that costs will not be an issue when confronting the wuhan virus. the president proposing a

payroll thanks cut. wage relief for part-time workers. , loans for small businesses and covering the expenses of uninsured patients who contract the coronavirus. when comparing the wuhan virus with the flu -- president trump: right now we are at 26 deaths. if you look at the flu for this year, we are looking at 8,000 deaths. and you know, hundreds of thousands of cases, 8,000 versus 26,000 at this time. with all that being said we are taking this unbelievably seriously and i think we are doing a god job. the task force head up by the vice president has been fantastic.

lou: the next guest claims his company is creating a coronavirus vaccine. joining us is john price, the president and ceo of graphics, a genetic engineering firm. the president is pleads with the way his administration and the u.s. government is responding. i think the american people are as well. but the left continue to make politics an issue and they look frankly to me like fools for doing so. we have 28 people in this country who died of the coronavirus and 19 of them were at a nursing home in kirkland, washington. this seems to be a well-controlled response to this virus. >> it is. it's difficult when there is a

death. any death. so you have to make sure that people are essentially assured themselves that there is nothing to be fearful about. but whether it's a numeric challenge or a madeup challenge. we want to be respectful of what's going on. lou: we are very respectful in this broadcast. this is not a nation of daffodils or butter cups. we are a nation first and we are by heritage and by nature, men and women of some considerable character, stamina and strength and we'll be treated as adults, simply put. i think the president has done a masterful job of communicating that way with great compassion to the degrees he is now opening

up the coffers of the federal government to assure all communities, all groups, all identities will be served, especially the most vulnerable. >> i came back from vietnam two weeks ago. my experience is people are incredibly impressed with the way americans look at something like this. it's something that they admire greatly. lou: one of the things everyone in the world admires greatly is our innovation, entrepreneurship, science and medical research, and you are at the forefront of that. your firm and others like it are working very hard to create vaccines and anti-virals to deal with this crisis. give us a sense of how close you are to having a vaccine that you

have confidence in to move forward and to do so address ideally. you i have great confidence. one of the things i do when i walk through our laboratories, i ask the question, does this work? the answer is yes. then the question cops how fast and how far can you go? and that is two part. one, the way vaccines are tested is out of the control of a company like ours. it's government. so what you do is create a vaccine candidate, no different than anyone else. you test that first in small animals. lou: no difference in the process. >> but decided difference in the technology. by the way, we all think we have the best vaccine. we know we do. and others think the say way. and the other good news is it would be great if all of them

had the right vaccine because there will never be enough vaccines. lou: you think there won't be enough vaccines for the coronavirus or enough for the viruses we'll encounter in the future. >> i think there won't be enough vaccines. it has to do with how we prepare in the future and how we are experiencing the diseases we see today. when you think about it, the flu changes itselfer year. and that's why the flu vaccine is done. lou: it's clear we missed in part because of the mu takes in the four strands. >> correct. >> and i think it will always be that way. we are working on a universal flu vaccine. but i think the more important question into the coronavirus, that's the one people want to know about. to me the next question is

what's it going to look like next year, and how are we prepared for that. lou: the american public is focused clearly on this edition of the coronavirus. and it's frustrating i'm sure for' to figure it will -- for many to figure it will take a year, year and a half to create that vaccine. your process is with a so-called dead virus rather than live virus? >> it's an anti-viral virus that has been emptied, then you put a sequence of a again that you season -- of a gene that you synthesize. lou: i talked to a number of people who think there is great potential for the methodology you are using and the train you

are on because of the you will e groups in society who could not with stands a live virus or other types of technology in the vaccine. your approach may offer the best hope for pregnant women, who are abled, who are infirm, who are aged, who are infirm, compromised immune systems. the virus most deadly for those groups. >> we think we have a safe vaccine. we believe the methodology allows us -- the old-fashioned business side, cheaper, faster and better. we know we are better and we know we are faster and we worked on cheaper. it meets the needs of the community at large. lou: it's exciting to hear this.

and the reality we know the fda and the trials that await you, any life science company involved in this enterprise. we want you alto speed up as fast as you can. what is necessary to move this product forward at the fastest possible rate. the president has made it clear. he wants to see things moved very quickly in terms of drugs, in terms of far suit cal -- in terms of pharmaceuticals to a necessary to-serve population. >> always money and always people. so what's necessary to move it forward. the $8.3 billion bill that was signed last week that was signed by kevin brady -- lou: bipartisan. >> absolutely.

the money gets distributed and that will be what's interesting next. lou: talking with anthony fauci of the nih, the head of infectious diseases, he talked about a year to a year and a half. you have talked about accelerating that. what is the predicate for doing that? >> the desire to have a vaccine with a stake in the ground that says we need to have it -- this is the day we want it. lou: we talked to the department of health and human services. there was a declaration, if we can put this up. the declaration by alex azar, the health and human services secretary, this u.s. public

health emergency declared on january 31 follows the world health organization that the spread of the virus constituted a public health emergency of international concern. the w -- the w.h.o. is the organization to issue a pandemic declaration. the president could do so with such a declaration, could he not? >> i believe so. on your news show an individual came out and said i view this as a pandemic. so the issue is the president says it's a pandemic, it's a pandemic. lou: there is nothing i can see that would disqualify it. we are in 108 countries at last

reading. 60% are reare covering, thank god. that's necessary you think to move forward to get special access to money and new deadlines for clinical trials. >> i would say the latter. new deadlines. if you declare it a pandemic and say we'll change how we introduce the clinical trials, if we change the subject count and the length of time, a lot of these things can change the delivery day. lou: by how much? >> conservative, six months. lou: 6 months could help a lot of folks? >> sure. lou: we appreciate you being here. we wish you a lot of luck.

indeed people around the world. and the company is greffex, genetic engineering, john price is the ceo. congress looking set to pass a fisa reform bill. but now there is a question. there have been no reforms. the president said he wants reform before there is reauthorization. because he doesn't want to see spygate for any president again. we take it up with a man in the room. congressman andy biggs. the man in the room for those discussions. coronavirus reality. is it different than perception? the our next guest says so and we ask him why. dr. mark rupp of the university of nebraska's national quarantine center and renowned

epidemiologist joining us right on the front lines of this crisis.

lou: joining us, dr. mark rupp,

he's the director infectious diseases at the university of nebraska medical center. if you would update us on how many patients you have there now. at one point you had 15, and i wanted to get a sense of how their recovery is going. >> we are doing well. we successfully discharged some of the patients from the quarantine unit. we have one of those patients in the bio containment unit that came from tour community related to travel. so we are starting to see some cases within the community related to travel and close contact with that patient. but our experience is mir yoorg what we have seen throughout the country. lou: with testing, there is confusion about how many tests

have been put out and it's sort of inexplicable to me that there has been in some cases apparently hundreds of thousands of test kits sent out but without a way in which to report whether those test kits have been used and whether the results are positive or negative. >> first of all, we welcome the increased amount of resources coming to bear on this. the announcement of billions of dollars coming out from the federal government. that should help with the developing vaccine you just talked about with your last guest. developing medication, stockpiling personal protect youive equipment. so getting the tests available more widely. there is a disconnect between the pronouncements saying there are millions of tests out there. those of us who have our boots

on the ground and having to try order tests through the community, that continues to be difficult and ponderous. there is a fair amount of bureaucracy. it's not as streamlined as it should be. once the cdc or fda cakes their hands off the control of those tests and sends them out to private or commercial labs, it makes it difficult to maintain that reporting scheme. that's where your comments how can we send these out there, we don't know how many tests have been done or what the results are. it takes a lot of effort to have the mechanisms in place to get the results back. it needs to be a reportable disease and public health needs to know those, which we do. we'll know the positive cases, but we may not know the total

number of cases and tests being performed. lou: in this digital age we have come to expect perhaps too much. but expecting a speed yesterdayer reporting mechanism than we encountered so far. so we'll hope for the best. at this point, in terms of the -- you talked about public perceptions and the reality on the grounds. is this in your judgment -- i was talking with the president the other day. he remains positive and very pleased as he should be it seems to me with his administration's response. at the same time, we are talking about now the death toll is up to 28, 19 of those in a nursing home in kirkland, washington, as

you well know. relatively few of people having contracted the disease. is it your sense we are making too much of this? are we just about right? or are we completely off the rails? >> nobody has a crystal ball to know how this will unfold. from what we have seen in some other parts of the world with china and iran and italy. this virus should not be trifled with. it can spread very wide, very quick, very far. and we need to take this quite seriously. having said that, we don't want to and pick. we don't want to do things that don't make any sense to us. i have would agree with some of the pronouncements. we are going to be okay, in six months or 13 mow -- months, the

major wave of this will have passed. the question is are we going to get to that okay place by being smart or not so smart. to be broadly testing where we can to find out where it is and how far it penetrated. then in those places where we are seeing community spread we need to wisely put in public health measures that will cause social distancing. before this virus gets into the communities, canceling schools and events makes little sense. but we need to take prudent measures called social distancing. people need to stay home and public health needs to come in. span we need to listen to public health when she they say put? school cancellations, and perhaps canceling events. that's when it makes sense to

me, listening to our experts fan put those things in place. the thing i would relate to the public is there will be you a shift in our recommendation sometime in the weeks to come. right now we need to be testing as widely as we possibly can to figure out where this disease is. once it's in a community. then the message is going to change a little bit. if puff an upper respiratory infection and a fever and you are doing okay, the best thing is to stay home, self quash teen'. the last thing you want to do is start streaming into the knowledge room. when that shift occurs it will happen a few weeks down the road. lou: we thank you for lining up reality and perception. up next, congressman andy biggs joins us to take up fisa reform.

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$. lou: congress to vote on fisa reauthorization with reforms, we are told this week. they include enhanced congressional oversight. penalties for those who politically abuse the political process. spygate. and require transcripts of fisa court proceedings. the senate planning to votes on it thursday. the last congressional day before three key parts of fisa are scheduled to expire. joining us tonight, congressman andy biggs, chair of the house freedom caucasus, co-chair of the border security caucus. congressman, good to have you with us. are you kidding me?

this is going to be voted on tomorrow? did i miss the hearings and amendments? >> there were no hearings, other than the rules committee. lou: we watched a president go through pure hell because of the abuse of power of the politically corrupt fbi and department of justice using this same fisa court system and defrauding it, and we are not going to have hearings on it. >> that's right. the whole country -- think if you were carter page. we didn't have -- judiciary should have had a hearing on this. intel should have had a hearing. we should be voting on amendments tomorrow. we are not doing any of that. the reality is in my opinion, these proposed reforms will do nothing to protect the president. but there is a provision to

protect elected officials or candidates for federal office. a special provision for maybe congressmen and senators. that's in there. it's unbelievable. the other factor, you have things like the so-called amici. lou: are republicans intent on destroying the party? is kevin mccarthy in favor of this ti -- this idiocy? >> i'm led to believe supports the reform bill if i can put it like that. lou: mitch mcconnell surely, stalwart of the great constitutional republic. surely he will stand against this intaits will enable more abuse and political correction on the part of the justice

department and fbi. >> i don't think i can agree with that statement, sir. i believe this is going to get through the senate. the only threat is, many in the senate want a clean reauthorization with no reforms at all. if i would rather see this thing expire at midnight on sunday. if that happens, they will keep spying on foreign agents and probably keep spying on americans as well. lou: you are not one of those who is moved by the scare tactics that there would be a terrorist attack because we didn't authorizes three revisions of the nic -- the fisa courts authorization. lou: they spent more time spying on a president than they did known terrorists in half a dozen

cases. >> that's right. lou: the president said he opposes reauthorization without reform. what does he do here? will he veto it if necessary? >> i would hope so, but i'm afraid he will be persuade. they will try to hang a potential terrorist threat on his neck. but you and i both know this. it's not criminal if you don't charge somebody and convict them. you can say -- you don't deter any of this activity unless you have actually charge somebody and actually try them or persuade them to plead to a conviction. lou: we don't have to worry about their not reauthorizing

it. we know full well the corrupt fbi and justice department will spy anyway. and we know no one will be held accountable for the crimes they committed under fisa.

lou: sleepy joe biden in detroit today. he lashed out to an auto worker in a heated exchange over gun

rights. listen to this. [bleep] lou: that's a rather candid discussion that the presumptive democratic nominee was having with a fella who was having none of him. joining us, the savant, ed rollins. have you ever heard such language? ed: i have, but not from a

candidate talking to voters. i would just wrap him in saran wrap and have him wait until november. he's not going to gain voters each day he's out there. lou: i can't figure out why the democrats think -- i haven't heard one person say about joe biden he's not acting presidential. i have never seen a less presidential fella. ed: a nice, decent man. lou: i can tell by the language. here we are, six states voting. the polls close in 20 minutes. it will be exciting. michigan 135 delegates at stake. and the national left-wing media keeps trying to convince me at least that if joe biden wins michigan, it's all over for bernie sanders.

tell me it ain't so. ed: bernie sanders can stay in as long as he wants. but the path ahead won't get him any delegates. this and north dakota and possibly washington. but at the end of the day he's being perceived as a loser. and the reality is there are a lot of people in the establishment jumping on the endorsement of biden. lou: have you ever seen a candidate be the recipient of so many pivots. ed: i don't know what the democrats are drinking. but this is not a candidate who will be credible. if this is a candidate to carry their record, he's a weak candidate who will self-destruct and trump will kill him.

lou: it's inconceivable that they will be pushing this unless they have this strategy to have him take them to the convention, then have one of those whacked up contested conventions and mysteriously appears the savior candidate. you have to fill in the names. ed: i can't fill in the names. having started with 15 were 16 candidates. an avowed socialist is not acceptable to the liberals in the democratic party. and a candidate who can barely get words out of his mouth but swear words. lou: he can barely communicate and does so with serious lapses. ed: this guy will be the change agent to sent 45 years in

washington, d.c. getting u.s. government checks every other friday? lou: what did you think that he was the fella trying take away that worker's second amendment rights. ed: he has been yelling about taking guns away as long as i have known him. lou: he said he would put beto o'rourke in charge. ed: wasn't he the first one to drop out. he was a media darling for a week and had his teeth cleaned on the air. lou: he could still use a little drumming. good to see you. ed rollins. be sure to vote in our poll tonight. should coronavirus be called covid-19 or the wuhan virus.

cast your vote @loudobbs. wuhan is a place, not a race. my next guest says the united states is behind the curve with its response to the coronavirus. we'll be talking to kt mcfarland afterw?w?uhió'ñó

lou: kt mcfarland joining us in a few minutes to discuss the coronavirus, the wuhan virus if you prefer. and our dependency on china or antibiotics and far sui -- and pharmaceuticals. but first on wall street a major recovery after yesterday's historic sell-off. this was a beauty today. 1,167 on the dow. the nasdaq up 135. gold down to 16.34 an ounce. silver down to 17 an ounce. the average price of a gallon of

gas $2.36. that's the lowest price in a long time, and it's in texas. a reminder to listen to my reports three times a day coast to coast on the sail each radio network. the chinese spreading propaganda criticizing america's response. a china daily editorial says the reality is the rapid rise in the number of cases in the united states is because the administration has not reacted in a timely manner to the information provided by china. secretary of state mike pompeo says the united states was put behind the curve because china carried out a campaign of disinformation and tried to keep everything secret for a month. the mortality rate in china is

4% compared to what you see there just under 3% in the united states. joining us, kt mcfarland, former deputy national security advisor to president trump. "we the people," we recommend it to you highly. i want to acknowledge you are coming to us from your home tonight because you are in self-quarantine. what happened? >> i was at the cpac conference with a lot of other people and met the gentleman, shook hands with a friend. he's a friend. he's a doctor. and he tested positive last week with the coronavirus. so i and a number of others were contacted by cpac and they said we may have been exposed to it. so i chose to self-quarantine for 14 days.

that's why i'm coming to you from a different place. lou: you are feeling well? >> terrific. nobody has gotten sick from the cpac exposure. we are feeling healthy as horses as matt schlapp says. lou: i talked with matt today and congressman doug collins who is running for senate in georgia. also self-quarantined. he said he's feeling terrific. great to have you with us. let's start with this chinese daily editorial. it's moronic even by chinese disinformation standards, this is a beauty. dr. anthony fauci did a survey of the countries where the coronavirus has spread. he now believes the mortality rate is going to be somewhere less than 1%. it's .7% according to his

assessment. it's 3.4% in wuhan, the epicenter of the coronavirus. >> the chinese have been going around the world telling everybody the west is finished. we are on the rise, state capitalism, the wave of the future. what what happened to them the last six months. hong kong, disaster. now they have the wuhan virus that put the whole world in danger because they refused to acknowledge it. their own scientists who were whistleblowers were you pressed and couldn't get the word out. the chinese leaders came to washington in january in the oval office with the president of the united states and they knew they had a problem and they didn't let anybody know that was going on. now what do we have? the world is having to deal with

their incompetence. lou: i just realized something, i was at the white house during that period as well. now i take it very personally. the great news is no one as far as i know was ever affected. and that's great. ways not great is the dependency this country has on china or all things, our pharmaceuticals, our antibiotics. it's stunning to see the position that big pharma in this country has put us in. the world's only super power is dependent on china or anti-buy yoictjanuary danti- -- on antib. >> shame on us. china has been able to corner some of the rarest minerals.

some of the technology in our whole computer network system. we always thought of those as national security issues. but the pharmacies have a national security issue as well if they can't get prescriptions because the chinese withheld key ingredients. lou: it looks like we'll need to have a solution in quick order. kt mcfarland, stay well and we'll see you here soon. >> thank you, lou. ♪ limu emu & doug

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lou: in our poll last night we asked you, should fisa be reformed before any reauthorization is considered. i am so proud of this answer. 97% of you have said yes. i love this audience. absolutely love this audience. the president making remarks on capitol hill about how his administration is addressing the wuhan virus and receiving plaudits from democratic governors. joining us tomorrow, dr. an

thonnive fauci. we hope you will be with us. thank you for being with us tonight. we'll see you tomorrow. good night from new cheryl: it is 5:00 a.m. here are your top stories at this hour. wall street goes to the white house. president trump meeting with big bank ceos over the fallout from the deadly coronavirus. can today's meeting turn markets around? lauren: joe biden continues his comeback tour as election results roll in overnight. can bernie sanders survive to see next week's primaries? cheryl: it is decision day for harvey weinstein as a judge will deliver his sentence, plus new reports he lobbied jeff bezos to try and save his career. it's wednesday, march 11th. "fbn: a.m." starts right now. ♪