but we made a deal with china and we'll do another looks like. they want to do it very badly. maybe they will want to wait, like iran, they want to see whether or not trump beaten in the election. would they love to negotiate with biden or somebody else other than me, they would love it. that is their best dream in the world. so many others, some are maybe waiting until after november 3rd the election day. but i think we're doing very well. it would be sad if we blew all of the advantages that we have right now because we made unbelievable trade deals. whether it's mexico, canada, japan, south korea, china, and others. we have, we have changed the whole thing around. please? reporter: mr. president, earlier today you sent notification letter to the nation's governors that you will soon come out with new guidelines about social distancing and other items. do you have any data yet to suggest which specific areas of the country may have their guidelines relaxed, which areas

of the country may have their guidelines -- >> deborah will talk to you about that and tony in a few minutes. we'll start talking about that we have to open up, we can't say let's close. people don't want to close, john. i say it again and again. the reason i do, i want you to report it eventually. go ahead, steve. reporter: how will that work without widespread testing? reporter: president xi, what do you want to talk to him about? >> it is his call. i will talk about whatever he wants. i think we'll have a very fruitful call and a good call at 9:00 tonight, please. reporter: [inaudible] >> we'll be talking about that. we'll be talking about the virus. >> in the back. reporter: thank you, mr. president. jobless numbers, market rallied again. >> a record. reporter: largest since 1931. do you think economic uncertainty has passed? >> no, not yet. it hasn't passed but it has come

a long way. i think they think we're doing a really good job in terms of running this whole situation having to do with the virus. i think they feel that, i think they feel the administration, myself and the administration are doing a good job. we're keeping very important people informed. because it was a great fear and a lot of good things are happening. the, mortality rate is at a, in my opinion, you have to speak to deborah, tony, all of the others but in my opinion it's way, way down and that takes a lot of fear out. it is one thing to have it. it is another thing to die. when i first got involved i was being told numbers that were much, much higher than numbers that seems to be. remember that people that have it, many people have it. i spoke to two people they had it. they never went to a doctor, they had it, absolutely had it, but never went to a doctor. they never went, they didn't report it. you have thousands and, hundreds

of thousands of cases like that. so you have to add that to the caseload also. and people that actually die, that percentage is a much lower percentage than i ever thought. that is one of the reasons i say, look, we're going to beat this and we're going to get back to work. reporter: i have one more question. >> yes, sir, please. reporter: doj announced charges against nicolas maduro for drug trafficking. -- >> that was appropriate. reporter: also expected that venezuela will get really hard about it coronavirus. does the administration see this as a weak point for the -- >> we don't look at a weak point this is a serious problem for over 150 nations, the virus. i would say this, maduro and venezuela, we're watching it very closely. we'll see what happens but that is correct, those charges were made. please? reporter: you said a moment ago you would use the defense production act on two minor occasions? >> yeah. reporter: what were those? >> we will give you the

notification. we'll let you know. reporter: follow up on john's question about the classifying for counties. a lot of these areas have not done testing yet. is it safe to say that the current guidelines will be extended into next week? will you, will you wait to change those guidelines until you have the data? >> i want those guidelines to go even when we're open and fully operational and frankly, much of the guidelines, like shaking hands, maybe people aren't going to be shaking hands anymore. you know, tony had mentioned to me, tony fauci, the other day that i don't think he would be too upset with the concept of not shaking hands. the regular flu would be cut down quite a bit if we didn't do that, the regular flu. we have a lot of deaths and a lot of problems with that too. so i think a lot of great things -- when we're open, just to finish, when we're open, as

soon as we open, that doesn't mean you will stop with the guidelines. you will try and distance yourself. maybe not to the same extent because you have to lead a life. how about one more question? go ahead in the back, please. reporter: thank you very much, mr. president. i also have two questions because i'm asking on behalf of foreign press as well. one domestic question, one internationally. domestically you tweeted the other day it is very important that we totally protect asian-americans? >> yes i do. very important to me. very important to me. we have to protect our asian-americans. it is a very important, that was a very important tweet to me because i didn't like things i was hearing. reporter: what is the countermeasures you're taking to combat the hate crimes against asians? >> all i don't know, asia shurn americans in our country doing fantastically well. i'm very close to them as you

know. they're doing fantastically well, i want to put that statement out, the social media statement, to me asia shurn americans are great part of our country. thank you all very much. i will see you soon. reporter: on your guidance -- [inaudible] people go from county to county? >> good afternoon, everyone. the white house coronavirus task force met today. we continue to move out on president trump's directive to slow the with mitigation, to advance and expand testing across the country, and to work on the critical supplyies that our health care workers in our nation needs. today the president convened the nation's governors all of the states and territories and reiterated to them with fema in the lead our approach is, our response to the coronavirus in this country is locally

executed, health care workers, local public health officials. it is state-managed and it is federally-supported. we took the opportunity to thank all the governors across the country, our states, territories for their incredible leadership and partnership they forged with this administration. we were able to confirm that 10 major disaster declarations have been issued, most recently to new jersey, north carolina, florida, texas and illinois. we spoke to them about the importance of the economic recovery legislation that will come before the house of representatives we believe tomorrow, midday. and we're grateful for their efforts in working for that unanimous, bipartisan vote in the united states senate last night n addition to direct payments for american families, the average family of four will receive a direct payment of some $3400. they will also receive payroll

report, many small businesses, even those restaurants that you just spoke about will now be able to keep people on the payroll for a period of months even if the restaurant or the business is not open. with the governors though, we talked about$50 billion in direct aid to the states. $100 billion in direct assistance to hospitals, of course the expansion of unemployment benefits to make sure that our states have the resources to meet the challenges that were so evident in those unemployment numbers this morning. on the be project of testing i'm pleased to report the testing is available in all 50 states and in partnership with commercial labs across america, this morning we received word 552,000 tests have been performed and completed all across the united states. we want to thank the american hospital association and hospitals across the country that are just now beginning to

report in a fulsome way the results of those tests. when the president signs the law tomorrow, we'll be actually required by law but as dr. birx and dr. fauci have explained many times at this podium, it is so important that any hospital or any lab that is doing testing report back to the cdc and fema so we have full visibility to provide the president with the very best counsel. good news today on testing. abbott laboratories submitted to the fda today request of approval for a point of care test. this is a test you can go to the doctor. you can get the test done there at your doctor and have the results in no more than 15 minutes. dr. steve hahn will be here tomorrow to talk about the progress of abbott laboratories point of care test. speaking of the fda, on the subject of swabs, the fda announced earlier this week

testing symptomatic patients by swabbing from the front of the nose is perfectly appropriate. it has already begun across the country t allows for self-collection and relieves burden on health care protection. it saves personal protective equipment being extended when people can ad min strings a test themselves. dr. birx will talk about the importance and availability of swabs. with regard to supplies, you heard the president speak about what we already shipped out from the strategic stockpile, more than nine million n 945 masks for health care workers, 20 million surgical masks, 6,000 ventilators and millions of gloves, gowns and face shields. in addition to that we are working with a number of suppliers to manufacture ventilators, even while we work with state leaders to assess not just what ventilators are available in their state hospitals but what ventilators are available in private

hospitals across their state and governors across the country are doing great work evaluating the full supply of tens of thousands of ventilators that are available. let me also say thank you to the american society of anesthesiologists and dr. mary petersen. the american society of anesthesiologists actually produced a video. tomorrow they will host a webinar for health care workers to demonstrate how the devices that anesthesiologists use can be very easily converted into a ventilator that's appropriate for a patient struggling with respiratory ailment like the coronavirus. we're very grateful, this actually adds tens of thousands of devices to the supply and we're all truly grateful to dr. petersen and the whole association for their full cooperation. with five of 10 counties in the country being the top counties

for coronavirus being in the new york city metropolitan area let us reiterate our recommendation that any resident of the greater new york city area who has traveled elsewhere in the united states, please check your temperature, mind your health around self-isolate for 14 days. what we don't want, again, with five of the top 10 counties for coronavirus being in the greater new york city area, we don't want anyone and no one would want to inadvertently carry the coronavirus to a community or to a family mem inadvertently because they come out of that community. again as dr. fauci said recently if you have come out of new york over the last several weeks before the mitigation measures were put into effect, in particular check your temperature, mine your health and self-isolate for 14 days. it is inspiring as i prepare to introduce dr. birx to talk about the data we're monitoring on a

regular basis and dr. fauci to talk about mitigation. let me conclude how inspiring it is to see the way america and american people are responding to this moment. we were all aweakened this morning with record unemployment numbers, not unexpected during the time of national crisis that we are facing but what you may not know is that while there were some three million plus new unemployment claims, walmart announced they're hiring50,000 new associates through the end of may. -- 150,000. amazon a few weeks back hired one 100,000 additional employees. cvs health will provide bonitoses to employees working with patients and hire 50,000 workers. pizza hut is planning to hire 30,000 permanent employees. that is just a short summary of a list that totals almost half a million jobs that have been announced by businesses around

america. it is not just been about jobs but around generosity. anheuser-busch is making a five million dollar donation to the american red cross to support first-responders. oyo hotels is offering doctors, nurses, first-responders free rooms at any of their 300 hotels all across america. and the pharmaceutical company abbvie is donating $25 million to the international medical corps and to feeding america. american businesses are stepping up to partner with us to meet this moment but they're being incredibly generous as well, to all of those that are stepping in the lead and providing health care services an of course to those most in need. we can do this, america but it will take all of us. as the president often says we're all in this together but as millions of americans do their part with 15 days to slow the spread, putting into practice the president's guidelines for combating the

coronavirus and its spread we grow more confident every day that this too shall pass with the cooperation and generosity and prayers of the american people. i just know that we will slow the spread, we will protect our most vulnerable and we will heal our land. and now for information of the latest on data and what we're seeing, dr. deborah birx. >> thank you. thank you, mr. vice president. so this is a summary of where it looks domestically, i want so much about the global issues at this time. we do have 19 out of our 50 states to be reminded, that had early cases but have persistently low level of cases. at this point have less than 200 cases. so that is almost 40% of the country with extraordinarily low numbers and they are testing. on of our governors have been very adamant about their need for test kits. we have gotten them test kits, when we had abbott add a week

ago to the test kits we've been able to open up additional test kits for states that want to do surveillance and want to do contact tracing. these 19 states are doing still active containment. they're at 200 cases despite the fact that they have been measuring them over the last three to four weeks. still though, 55% of all cases and 55% of all new cases continue out of the new york metro area. that's the new jersey part and new york part in particular. i haven't added in connecticut or other counties at this point. we are concerned about certain counties that look like they're having a more rapid increase. when you look at wayne county in michigan, you look at cook county in chicago. so we have intigrated all of our information to not only look at where the cases are today but how they're moving so we can alert fema where we think the next potential hot spot is.

all of the counties that i have mentioned, the hot spots are in urban areas or in the communities that serve that urban area. i think that is something very important to remember as we move forward. because of the innovation within the private sector we continue have the new platforms for laboratory testing and these become critical platforms for states that have very low rates and very low rates needed to test. why is that important? some of these machines have wells and plastic plates in order to be effective you have to put on 96 samples. others are made for four samples or 24 samples at a time. what is critical for us to be able to do is to match the need to the county and state and that's the role that we can provided a vice on because we get to see across the whole country and where those items are needed most. so this is allowing us to adapt and adopt really allocation of

tests or recommendations to state, what piece of equipment they may need. of the 550,000 tests you can do the math but we're still running somewhere about 14% overall. that means 86% of the people with significant symptoms, because you remember you had to have a fever and symptoms to get tested at this point. so still 86% are negative. these are really important facts for the american people. i'm sure many of you saw the recent report out of the uk about them adjusting completely their needs. this is really quite important. if you remember that was the report that said there would be 500,000 deaths in the uk and 2.2 million deaths in the united states. they have adjusted that number in the uk to 20,000. so half a million to 20,000. we're looking into this in great detail to understand that

adjustment. i am going to say something a little bit complicated but i will try to do it in a way we all can understand it together. in the model, either you have to have a large group of people who are asymptomatic who have never presented for any test in order to have the kind of numbers that were predicted, to get to 60 million people infected or six million people infected, you have to have a large group of asymptomatics because in no country to date have we seen an attack rate over one in 1000. so either we're only measuring the tip of the iceberg of a symptomatic cases and underneath it are a large group of people. so we're working very hard to get the anti-body test. that is a good way to figure out who are all the people under here and do they exist? or we have the transmission completely wrong.

these are the things we're looking at because the prediction of the models don't match the reality on the ground in either china, south korea or italy. we are about five times the size of italy so, if we were italy and you did all those divisions, italy should have close to 400,000 deaths. they're not close to achieving that. so these are the kinds of things we're trying to understand. models are models. we're adapting now to -- there is enough data now of the real experience with the coronavirus on the ground to really make these predictions much more sound. so when people start talking about 20% after population getting infected, it is very scary but we don't have data that matches that based on the experience. and then finally the situation about ventilators, we were reassured in meeting with our colleagues in new york that there are still icu beds remaining and there is still

significant, over 1000 or 2000 ventilators have not been utilized yet. please for the reassurance of people around the world, to wake up this morning and look at people talking about creating dnr situations, do not resuscitate situations for patients, there is no situation in the united states right now that warrants that kind of discussion. you can be thinking about it in a hospital, certainly many hospitals talk about this on a daily basis but to say that to the american people, to make the implication that when they need a hospital bed it is not going to be there, or when they need that ventilator it is not going to be there, we don't have evidence of that right now and it is our job collectively to assure the american people that, it is our collective job to make sure that doesn't happen. right now you can see the state, these cases are concentrated in highly urban areas. there are other parts of the

states that have lots of ventilators and other parts of new york state that don't have any infections right now. so we can be creative. we can meet the need by being responsive but there is no model right now, i mean no reality on the ground where we can see that 60 to0% -- 70% of americans will get infected the next eight to 12 weeks. i want to be clear about that. we're adapting to the reality on the ground. we're looking at models how they inform. we're learning very clearly from south korea and from italy and spain, just to follow up, many of you will look up my numbers. only people over one in 1000 cases are people with low populations like monica coand liechtenstein.

one case can put you one over 1000 or 2,000. >> we'll do questions after dr. fauci. >> there were questions that came up, i've been asked about this a couple of media interactions regarding interventions that we're talking about. it is important because it is about something i said yesterday about what we would likely see. whenever you put the clamps down, shut things down, you do it for two reasons. you do it to prevent further spread, call it mitigation and buy yourself time for better prepared for a rebound. we get things really under control and you pull back ultimately we'll have to do that. everybody in the world will have to do that. you will either get a rebound or it might cycle into the next season. so what will we do to prepare ourselves for that? one of the most important things i mentioned several times from this podium to clarify a bit

about the timeline for vaccines and would that have any real impact on what we would call the rebound or what we would call a cycling in the season? certainly for sure a vaccine will not help us now, next month, the month after but as i mentioned to you, we went into a phase one trial, i keep referring to one vaccine. there is more than one. there is a couple of handfuls of vaccines at different stages of development but they're all following the same course and the course is, you first go in to a phase one trial to see if it is safe and you have very few people, 45 people within a certain age group all healthy, none at really any great risk of getting infected and the reason you do that because you want to make sure that it's safe. then the next thing you do, and that takes about three months easily, maybe more. that will bring us into beginning, middle of the summer. then you go to a phase two trial or we say two three, which means we'll put a lot of people in there. we hope there are not a lot of

people getting infected but it is likely there will be somewhere in the world where that is going on. so it is likely we will get what is called a efficacy signal and we will know whether or not it actually works. if in fact it does, we hope to rush it to be able to have some impact on recycling in the next season and like i said, that would be a year to a year-and-a-half. i'm not changing any of the dates that i mentioned but one of the things that we are going to do that you need to understand that has been a stumbling block for previous development of vaccines and that is, even before you know something works at risk you have to start producing it because once you know it works you can't say, great, it works, now give me another six months to produce it. so we're working with a variety of companies to take that risk. we didn't take it with zika. that is why we have a nice zika vaccine but we don't have enough to do it because there is no

zika around. the same with sars. that is one of the things we'll really push on, to have it ready if in fact it works. now the issue of safety, something that i want to make sure the american public understand. it is not only safety when you inject somebody and they get maybe an idiosyncratic reaction, they get a little allergic reaction, they get pain, there is safety associated, does the vaccine make you worse? and there are diseases which you vaccinate someone, they get infected with what you're trying to protect them with, you actually enhance the infection. you can get a good feel for that in animal models. that will be interspersed at the same time we're testing. we'll try to make sure we don't have enhancement. that is the worst possible thing you could do is vaccinate somebody to prevent infection and actually make them worse. next, and finally with regard, i will get to your question, finally, with regard to therapies. we keep getting asked about

therapies. there is a whole menu of therapies that are going into clinical trial. as i told you all, i will repeat it again, the best way to get the best drug as quickly as possible is to do a randomized controlled trial so that you know, is it safe and is it effective? if it is not effective, get it off the board, go to the next thing. if it is effective get it out to people that need it. so you will be hearing the next month or more about different drugs that will go into randomized control trials and i feel confident knowing what that virus is what we can do wit, we will have some sort of therapy that gives at least a partial, if not a very good protection in preventing progression of disease and we'll be back here talking about that a lot, i'm sure. >> tony. take a question. reporter: you're saying about the idea of risk of drug manufacturers. you're saying at some point in the face two trials if you're

seeing some form of efficacy you may try to convince a laboratory to school up production at that point to -- >> even before. even before. when i go into phase two i will find somebody to make it. reporter: [inaudible] >> partially the federal government, i think in some respects derisk it an investment by companies. a lot of companies are not shy about doing that. usually when you do that at risk, john, you have to give backup for them. we've done that. we put hundreds of millions of dollars into companies to make vaccines. i wouldn't hesitate to do that for a moment now. reporter: on county issue, talking about low risk, medium risk, high-risk counties, dr. birx but there is no -- what prevents county going from high-risk county to low risk count and cases up to the virus spreading from other areas of the country? >> this is a very important

concept and why we worked on messaging to the american people about these 15 days to stop the spread because part of this will be the need to have highly responsible behavior between counties. and i think the american people can understand that, that they will understand where the virus is because we'll have the testing data and where it isn't and make sure that they're taking appropriate precautions as they move in and out of spaces. i think this will be critical for our future as we work together to really understand where the virus is and where it isn't in real time. reporter: follow up on, your modeling. neil ferguson, how modeling changed you last week said on monday talked about a serology test, something promising coming out singapore where are we with the serology test, president said quickly? an would you need to do a commuting survey to get the x

and vs to figure all of it out? >> talking to cdc, they are now extraordinary in outbreaks and contact tracing. so they are going to be the workforce behind any new strategy that looks at counties that need to completely move into containment and surveillance and contact tracing but part of what they're looking at now is where are these anti-body body assays. there are antibody assays they're by eliessa. not just use eliza's, are point of care rapid diagnostics with hiv. you get a drop of blood, put it on a little cassette and ands whether it is positive. reporter: [inaudible] >> that is is gg meshment that will not be helpful for diagnosis that will help us out aye symptomatic cases there or wore.

reporter: how close are the the asymptom mattic cases there are? >> that is big question. they have applications coming in. we put out a call for applications. i've been talking about it from this podium. if have ig g-rap paid assay or not eliza, you can do the eliza, the original czars antigens react well to the original antibodies people have. we have therapeutics that could be plasma derived. very, very focused on that. reporter: how soon will be able to classify these counties because there is a lot of testing that has not been done yet? >> i want to recognize state and local officials behind all of this have continued to test and continue to do surveillance.

so we do have states that have been doing surveilance all along, who have been doing contact tracing all along. it never gets reported because it is not, you know, it is not that exciting that they have identify 10 cases but there are states doing that and have been doing that throughout the entire outbreak. that is why we have the confidence that testing has been going on. we have to expand testing for surveillance but this is that, we talked about a little bit yesterday, the flu platform. so the flu platform is driven off of the emergency rooms and hospitals, reporting flu-like illness to their state and local governments and that then will trigger the individuals to get tested. so we have a platform that states and local governments are completely used to. they're not used to doing it this late in the season. they will do it usually through end of march but the flu tails off a lot by april. so we're asking them to continue the activation of screening for

flu-like illness. now that doesn't get to his question about where is the asymptomatics and how much of that? that helps us find cases and contact trace on symptomatic cases. >> looking for guidance for the places, the counties that don't have the data yet, will there be different ccc guidelines? >> these are very early days of us trying -- what we're trying to do is to utilize a laser focused approach rather than a generic horizontal focused approach. in the 21st century we should be able to get to that why am i confident we can do that? we do that is sub-saharan africa for hiv. that is how we're stopping the epidemic there we've done it and done it in resource limited settings. i do believe we can transpose the approach here in the united states and be able to have, we have granular data down to ps

coordinate of the site after clinic and a hospital. we think that can be done here in the united states. reporter: on restrictions for something like that, if there is a high-risk country and restaurants are open in low-risk count wouldn't your fear people in the high-risk count go over to the low risk county? >> these are dialogues they have to have with state and local governments because state and low call governments make those decisions. that is inspirational how the governors understand where they are in the epidemic and what they need in the future this is what we're trying to tailor. this requires us to have very clear data aggragation at the county and state level but i think you've been hearing from us, these outbreaks in clusters we've been able to very well define to date the one in king county. the one now in new york city. the one in new orleans, the one in wayne county and we can see

that spread throughout the region and that closely related counties. this is what we're talking about, how to do surveillance, how to do contact tracing and how to do each of these items to prevent that spread. reporter: what is your timeline you think, timeline for implementation like this? >> we have to get all the data together. we owe it to the president and we owe it to the president to make that decision. that is what we're working on now the granularity. >> i will go to john for a for a second. president certainty a sent a letter to all the governors that we're approaching day 15. what the president said to the governors we'll listen to the very best health experts in world and we'll examine that data very carefully, we'll present this weekend, the president, a range ever

recommendations and additional guidance for going forward. the president's made it clear that in his words he wants to open the country up but we're going to do that responsibly and as the president told the governors today we'll do that based on data. john, last one. reporter: mr. vice president? >> go to john. reporter: unless a last minute glitch we should probably see phase three pass the house tomorrow. already many members who were talking about the need for a phase iv. do you see the need for a phase iv, and if so, what do you think should be addressed in it? >> well, first let me just say again how grateful the president and i know governors across the country are for the extraordinary bipartisan work that has been done on capitol hill, not just in the bill that will be taken up by the house of representatives tomorrow but in legislation last week that extended paid family leave, free coronavirus testing, to every american. made sure all the agencies at

every level of the federal government had resources to meet this moment. it is really been a a inspiring time but what the president's made clear to our governors we'll do whatever it takes and already we're hearing from some governors about the need for additional resources and we will evaluate those very carefully and i think the secretary of the treasury is already indicated and congressional leadership has already indicated a willingness to remain open to that. now the american people, the american people know we're all in this together and the unity that you see on capitol hill, the unity that this president has marshalled among governors all across this country and our states and territories will continue to drive forward. we're going to make sure the people on the front lines, our health care workers, the people that are serving them, make sure our state governments, make sure every agency of the federal

government have everything we need to put the health of america first. see back here tomorrow. thank you all. elizabeth: thanks for joining us. you're watching "the evening edit" on the fox business network. president trump and the while house coronavirus task force wrapping up briefing on the latest developments. get to edward lawrence in washington with more. edward, headlines coming out now, what is driving a sense of urgency now in the meeting is the headlines that the u.s. has surpassed china terms of number of cases. we're seeing that that is likely not so, that china does not count asymptomatic cases in its numbers. so their numbers in china may be understated by a factor by a third. can you give us a wrap what the headlines came out of the meeting just now? >> sure you know, that has been a criticism of china all along throughout this whole process. president donald trump even

tonight said that you know questions some of the facts coming out of china related to the numbers going forward here but there was a big headlines coming out of this, specifically we'll find out a little bit more in the next coming days what parts of the economy may open up again. the president alluding to the fact he may open up large parts of the economy. we'll find out early next week. he did say that he wanted to get this economy going sooner rather than later because it will be harder to get it back to where it was the longer it stays closed. some of the facts back that up out of the meeting. 40% according to one of the other professionals there, 40% of the states here in the united states have few cases in them. now 55% of the new cases they said came out of the new york-new jersey area here. also the president going to norfolk this weekend to see the uss comfort off. now because new york has had such high cases, and they continue to struggle with this, the uss comfort is going from norfolk over to new york to help with some other cases to free up

hospital rooms for the coronavirus. now the president going to norfolk to see the ship off. now the coronavirus has directly or indirectly decimated the workforce in this country and that can be seen in the 3.28 million people filing last week for unemployment. the president saying tonight out of this briefing that was not unexpected. he also said that he is looking forward to that stimulus package from the senate being passed tomorrow. we do know house speaker nancy pelosi says one way or another it will be passed tomorrow in the house of representatives. the president will sign it immediately. liz, i want to go through some of the things in this package, some of the things, some don't actually have to do with the coronavirus here. we're talking about things like $100 billion for hospitals and hospital care providers that directly relates to the coronavirus. $150 billion for state and local governments to fight the coronavirus. 45 billion for fema to help the response, 14 billion for farmers. airlines get 29 billion in loans, another 29 billion in

grants. 10.5 billion for the pentagon. 950 million for prisons deeding with crowding problems there. 25 million for the kennedy center. 73 and 300 million for the corporation for public broadcasting. 4.2 billion requiring airlines to buy renewable jet fuel. of of 500 million for institute of library sciences. 300 million tore immigration and refugee assistance. not everything is directly related to the coronavirus, president and others, republicans said they had to throw up things democrats to sign on to the bill. one other point didn't come out of the briefing, new york, massachusetts, other places across the country, the governors are asking fourth year medical students, final year of medical students to graduate early to help with these hot spots that are happening, latest one was today in massachusetts.

they asked boston university, harvard, tufts one of the other medical schools up there to see if they could graduate folks early to get them to help with the coronavirus. liz, back to you. elizabeth: edward lawrence, thanks for joining us. thanks for the wrap there. let's get reaction on breaking developments from senator mike braun of indiana. the pandemic, thanks for joining us, senator. >> you bet. elizabeth: the pandemic is starting to sweep up there the south and midwest. the debate, coordinate the focus on helping the hospitals. louisiana is getting hard hit now. per capita, cases there are now rising faster than new york. this is a matter of messaging right now for the country. we're seeing now, out of the democrats, they're talking about election reform, green new deal. we have 2states doing basically -- 21 states doing stay at home orders this is

vision for getting us out of this. a unifying vision. can you talk to us what is happening right now with the house debate on the aid package coming through? they're talking about a fourth and fifth one. >> it got delayed out of sunday evening. most of us working on committee, we thought it would be fleshed out sunday evening. speaker pelosi came into town, all the stuff you mentioned, i won't repeat it, came into play. kind of hijacked the whole process. we were dealing with that throughout the last few days until late last evening. we barely got it through without it going way into the early morning hours. but it passed without a dissenting vote. there were both sides that wanted to try to do more at the end but the big issue beyond this package that needs to get to the finish line, is establish confidence.

i got back home. been talking to folks over the course of the day. this has struck a scare into the country like i have never seen. businesses unrelated to the ones that basically got shuttered and shut down have already seen volumes fall off 30 to 50%. workforce not showing up, if there is a case here or there. so it is created a lot of, kind of a almost panic out there and we're not only need to get the elements out there to help the people that have been waylaid, you know, over the last three to four weeks, hospital, hotels, restaurants, you know, the large arena where they were shut down and i really believe aspirational point ever view will be important all the time and we'll have to be selective and get the economy going again. or else i am afraid we have demand destruction and some of this won't be brought back

without a long, long time in between. elizabeth: senator, just a point of order here, we're reporting it now in the middle of manhattan, forgive us, viewers too, if you hear ambulance sirens because that has been pretty much the norm here in new york city. i want to return to this. constitutional experts say 19, now 21 governors have the power to lift their shelter in place orders. it is covering now nearly, we're seeing anywhere 170 million plus people. so it is not the federal government. that is why the president is calling this a recommendation. so can you take that on? so how would that unfold going forward? >> and he is right there, the shutdown orders would be a state prerogative. indiana would have been one of the first of the conservative states to do that and i believe if we do not tamp the disease

now no one is going to be feeling more at ease. i think the fact that we see what is happening in new york, that gets kind of extended throughout the country in terms of what might happen but still you mentioned it earlier. elizabeth: yeah. >> that was the vector, that is ground zero. i think here whether it is easter, whether we can do it before, at some point we'll have to make that hard decision where we try to get back to normal, especially with what we've learned about the disease. it is highly contagious but seems to have worst effects where there is population density. that means a whole part of the country not affected by it or mildly affected by it so far, will have to experiment with trying to bet back to normal and it is a tricky dynamic to find out when the right time is. elizabeth: yeah. i mean this is, this is, a tough, tough debate.

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♪. elizabeth: welcome back, you're watching "the evening edit." with me retired lieutenant colonel james carafano. great to have you back on. sir, the president will speak with the leader of china, president xi at 9:00 p.m. tonight he said. we talk a lot here about the vision of going forward, unifying the country. the president also said he spoke with 20 world leaders including leaders of russia, france, and germany. what do you expect will happen on the phone call with the leader of china? >> well there are two worlds. there are world where the leaders talk, where he talks to xi and talks to kim, and all these other guys and where the rubber meets the road in u.s. policies. u.s. policy has been tough on china and rightfully so. you know, this latest round where we see the chinese

essentially, while the rest of the world is fighting the virus, the chinese are starting a propaganda war attacking other countries. i think the u.s. has been great. the president says look, we'll have to work together, he maintains the close personal relationship. across the board, military, political, economic, public health policy the administration is pushing back on china where china is wrong and we have to continue to do that. elizabeth: you know back home there is a battle royale still going on in washington about getting that, you know, the economic aid package out. the house has yet to vote on it. there seems to be some consternation about the messaging coming out of the democrat party. we're not getting political here. we're talking about a need for a unifying vision. kevin mccarthy, colonel, talked about how john f. kennedy went to nasa, 1961, asked the janitor with a broom. asked the janitor what are you doing. the janitor said i'm working to

get a man on the moon. we see unification across the country. 10 drugmakers. 130 million doses pumping out for hydrochloroquine. we have people making ventilators, masks. there is push to get us focused, no more distractions. >> the president has been realistic, the notion that washington is just going to stop being washington and put partisan politics aside isn't going to happen. and this gets to a key point of his strategy. if you really focus on this, the president has never waited for the washington consensus to catch up. if you look at every phase of the plan, particularly in this crisis, always been one step ahead. has never gotten consensus for travel ban. that was key, you can't drain the bathtub if you leave the faucet on. way ahead and recognize state

and local governments, those guys are making the tough decisions how to bend the curve. he pushed through a lot of economic aid to look, we've got to help people. he kept pressure on for that. congress is continually playing catch up. the partisan fighting is almost a separate sideshow because, if you really see that, all they do is replay the same tactics over and over again, whether stormy daniels, testing, are the new tax returns, and they play it over and over again. the president ignores it, plows through it. that is why he has been successful. elizabeth: and colonel, interesting what you just said because nancy pelosi today said two trillion dollar aid package is, she is talking about equating it to the two troll -- trillion dollar tax cut bill that was a fight two years ago. i want to turn to the hard decision about reopening the country. it will be a fight with 21 governors that oversee that. it is important to have the

right data. we were talking, colonel, how china likely understates by 43,000 cases, its cases because those cases are asymptomatic. we had dr. birx talkinging athe imperial college of london says last week, half a million people in the uk could die, now likely 20,000, because now the private sector the health system is stepping up. half a million was based on doing nothing. you know, it is important to have the correct data. looks like the white house is trying to get the right data in to make the right decisions. do you see that? >> yeah, if you look at the strategy, the president is again, really, really way ahead of this. the reality we're all debating, washington is debating, open up the country let the disease run wild for months or shut the country down. president already moved past that choice.

that is looking in the past. president is looking how to break the back of the curve, deploy capabilities to deal with the disease, in a risk informed way, using science, data, advise of experts start to get the economy going again because that is really important. we have to deal with the disease, because the best economic policy a public health policy that keeps the thing from getting out of control. that is all in place now. we are past normandy. the president has landed in normandy after d-day, we're driving to paris. these guys are still talking like, should we have a second front. so the reality is we don't need to have this debate opening up country or not. we have a strategy that will do that efficiently and safely. we should get behind the president and support it. elizabeth: you know, i hear what you're saying, social distancing is also getting the hospital sector ramped up with supplies, right? when you do social distancing it helps them get the medical

supplies in house. >> right. elizabeth: before you start reopening the country, right? >> right. if you follow this, it is a very clear and consistent strategy. social distancing slows the disease. that protects the most vulnerable population. keeping you from swelling the hospital beds. while you're doing that you build up medical capacity to take care of sick people and you're buying time hopefully for of the end of the flu season. more importantly, to buildout the arsenal, robust testing, therapeutics, prophylactics. that will allow manage disease. the debate is too much about people talking about myopic things, the president is building an army, building an air force, building a navy, attacking the pacific, driving across europe. like he is roosevelt he is at 1944 and the congress is at 1939. if you get the history there. elizabeth: you know, i understand exactly what you

mean. it seems like you know, i hear exactly what you're saying and you know, he is trying to build confidence in the system. some critics are saying he is giving a false sense of security. we hear that. i don't think people out there are fatally naive not to understand what the president is trying to to with his messaging. when we talk about the defense production act, saying we don't need to call on it because the private sector is stepping up. we keep hear in new york city the hospitals are jungle. doctors and nurses reusing supplies, ma gaverring supplies. there there is concern that the hospital will get hit one by one if we don't have a effort to get supplies now. >> i think that is the key, one of the key parts of the strategy and why we just can't all go go

to work tomorrow is, the last thing we can do is less hospitals get overwhelmed. the best tool we have for that right now not have people go to the hospital. the best way to do that, not have vulnerable people to get sick. the best way to deal with shortage of respirators, not to have people need a respirator. again, people for get this, we're way better off than we were on something like 9/11. 9/11, nobody had situational awareness on the mem capacity and capability of across this country. nobody knew how to surge things in different places f this happened in 2001 instead of 9/11 it, would have been way, way worse. people forget we've had 20 years of actually building up the, the infrastructure to deal with disasters. we are way better off. >> colonel, thank you so much. come back, colonel james carafano. great to see you. thank you for watching. lou dobbs is next right here on

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