treatment with gilead's drug, remdesivir in chicago are now seeing fast recoveries from covid-19. from fever and respiratory symptoms. that news is sending shares of gilead rocketing higher on this -- evening, everybody. tonight we'll be examining issues taking on new importance and greater urgency as a result of developments in the u.s.-china relationship that have arisen in the past 24 hours. this brings into question the interest thankingal business practices for the past two decades. we have entered a new able in which american orthodoxies are being challenges from within and without. and nothing less than our national security and way of life are clearly under threat.

this able is no less perilous than previous decades. there is growing evidence communist china is directly responsible for the deaths of 140,000 people around the world. the wuhan virus killing 31,000 in america. it has cost 32 million americans their jobs. a number of government sources say there is a high level of confidence communist china is covering up the origins of the wuhan virus and they are now comfortable in questioning whether the virus came from a laboratory at the wuhan institute of the virology. that's a question we raised on this brad cast for the past couple weeks. sources say the laboratory was working on a virus carried by

horseshoe bats in southern china. how or why that occurred if it did occur is still unknown and far from certain. we are learning the wuhan laboratory was operating far below its bio-safety designation. and the u.s. embassy in beijing sent cables back to the state department warning of those safety issues. president trump with this reaction. president trump: i don't want to say that, john. but more and more we are hearing the story. we'll see. when you say multiple sources. we are doing a thorough examination of this horrible be situation. >> in your many conversations

with president xi did you discuss with him lax safety protocols reported to the state department? president trump: i don't want to discuss what i talked with him about the laboratory. it's inappropriate right now. lou: the chinese cop tonight party used the world health organization to shield hair culpability. saying there is no evidence the new coronavirus originated in the laboratory. the defense secretary mark esper said china has been lying from the start and there is no reason to believe anything they say. >> i can't speak to intelligence mat is. but i find it hard to trust much of what comes out of the communist party. they have been misleading us and have been opaque from the early

days of this virus. i don't have much faith they are being truthful with us now. lou: a number of administration officials publicly said they believe the virus was of natural origin. none of them thought they could dismiss he tirely that it was engineered. nothing is conclusive. what is could be cluesive is china covered up the severity of the wuhan virus. joining us is michael pillsbury of the hudson institute. let's start with the wuhan virus. we have been discussing on this broadcast the possibilities for weeks now. the fact that the administration and certain government sources

are at least discussing it now with considerable confidence as they put it that that did occur, that the origin of the virus was that laboratory, what does that effectively mean on the part of culpability of china and the fact they have been lying throughout. >> you have been a pioneer on this and your early reporting has proved to be correct. now we have exclusive fox news yesterday that intelligence sources show something happened in the viruses scaping from the laboratory. it shows even if it was an accident, the cover-up was dangerous and deliberate'. it calls into question all the many cooperative programs we have with china. you mention secretary is%.

-- secretary esper. this is called into question. scientific exchange programs. we have 100 agreements with china to share science. these are called into question. the briefing yesterday, u.s. intelligence must be picking up chinese officials talking about this laboratory. if chinese officials are talking about it, it means they know and the cover-up was deliberate. that's what we face the next five to ten years. what kind of government is this in china that covers up a massive catastrophe like this. lou: this catastrophe, depending on what did happen in the wuhan

laboratory, whether purposeful or accidental. it's no less disturbing because of the cover-up which is criminal, which is conscious, and absolutely intended on the part of the chinese communist government. this calls into question everything that this government is doing with china as you point out. military exchange programs. scientific exchange program. for crying out loud, china has four of the labbest banks in the world operating in the -- four of the largest banks in the united states. they are insinuated into this country in ways that are inexplicable. this is not the way a sovereign nation operates if it's conscious of its vulnerabilities and responsibility for national security. >> i have been calling for some

time for an inventory of all these cooperative program. it goes back to jimmy carter. he signed a presidential directive that all u.s. government departments must have a cooperate idea agreement with china. it's outright assistance. lou, that means 50 federal agencies are in the embassy in beijing with these cooperative programs. if china is not to be trusted. if this is negligent homicide. then those programs need to be identified and reevaluated whether theyered our trust. i'm concerned about our ignorance. only recently has it been known that our pharmaceutical

ingredients were up to 85 to 90% dependence object china. they have just rolled along since the days of jimmy carter and it's time to change. lou: there is a more proximate issue. how will this administration and this country assure an uninterrupted flow of pharmaceuticals and antibiotics into this country the next 90 days to 6 months and be independent of chinese sourcing on all of that. >> it's a larger issue in the sense the president promised he wants to level the playing field with china. secretary pompeo said that in january. so the idea was this was a and

we could trust to sign the trade agreement he cooperate with us. but i wonder if the president's goal may look a little more difficult to achieve if we don't have basic honesty from the chinese side. that's why the trade agreement was so important because of its enforcement provisions. i suspect some american companies will do that. we'll get into the enforcement mechanism of how much punishment to give china. senator scott, the florida governor, called for a boycott of chinese products. he said americans cannot do this. they should wait a day or two then start buying american products only. don't buy chinese products. that would cripple a lot of american companies like walmart that seem to have tomorrow chinese products in their stores. lou: walmart represents the

third or fourth largest export market for china. it's a conduit for chinese goods into the largest consumer market. the idea of a boycott and responsibility and consequences for china in this, we have also another urgent problem. our business establishment is represented by the chamber of commerce which is calling for the lifting of tariffs. for crying out loud, the chamber of commerce after he lined as best they can -- aligned with china. they are corrupt that they would align themselves with beijing on the chinese foreign policy rather than the president of the united states who is trying to

insure there is balanced trade between the nations and the world trading system, and to assure we no longer run 50 years -- after 50 years of consecutive deficits, trade deficits that cut into our economic growth and prosperity. >> lou, i think we can't underestimate the power of the china lobby in washington and our business community. huawei is still a problem. they hired two senior administration officials to lobby for them. it's considered a good thing to get a million dollars to lobby for huawei. other chinese large companies and the banks have lobbying firms. and we have a least people in the academic community who know they can't visit china without a

visa so they have to be careful what they write in their books about them. it looks like it will change now as 100 million americans sit at home and ponder how this happened. lou: the china lobby to be clear, it's corporate america, it's wall street, it's the chamber of commerce, and it's academia, many of whom are in the trough of china gorging themselves on chinese funding. it's outrageous what we permitted to happen in this country. and again nothing less than our national security and way of life are at stake. dr. michael pillsbury, we appreciate your insight and expertise so much. president trump expected to hold a news conference in less than an hour.

he's expected to unveil new guidelines aimed at opening up america's booming economy. the program that was designed to aid small business has run out of money. they have to stop accepting claims because the radical dimms on capitol hill have been blocking those monies. they processed 14 years worth of loans in less than two weeks totaling $350 billion. senate majority leader mitch mcconnell tried to bring up an extend of the program and it was blocked by the democrats. here is the majority leader's reaction. >> it's surreal to see democratic leaders treat support for workers and small businesses as something they need to be goaded into supporting. americans need democrats to stop

blocking emergency paycheck money and let the job saving program we open. i hope our colleagues will come around soon. lou: his colleagues come around soon. they won't, senator, i guarantee it. the democrats have become a party of hate, obstruction and subversion. american adversaries, russia and iran using the wuhan virus as a means to product the american military perhaps to provoke conflict. we take that up tonight with national security expert kt mcfarland. president trump wants his political allies to stand with him and support his political appointees. and he will do whatever is necessary. his warning next. we'll be right back. you think of people in a place.

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the footnotes from the inspector general report exposed a source for information that ended up in the steele dossier strong support for hillary clinton. we knew that but now we are getting a clear idea who those individuals might have been. president trump says he may use his executive authority to adjourn congress and the senate if this political appointees aren't confirmed by the senate. president trump: the senate should either fulfill its duty and vote on my nominees or formally adjourn so i can make recess appointments. the current practice of leaving town while conducting phoney pro proforma sessions is a dereliction of duty the american people cannot afford during this crisis. it's a scam what they do. lou: joining us is jason

chaffetz, fox business contributor, author of "the deep state." what is your reaction to the president's idea of using his powers under the constitution to send the senate and the house home because they are not going to do their constitutional duty, that is, advise and consent and support his appointees. we have never seen this in the history of the nation. >> the president is spot-on. people have been waiting more than a year for their vote. you have important appointments. john ratcliffe, the congressman from texas up for the director national con tell jones. he will be confirmed, it's just a matter of time. it's fundamentally an embarrassment that congress will meet for less than 10 minutes, gavel in and gavel out just to

keep this in motion. by the way, why is it that nurses and truckers and doctors and healthcare professionals, they all go to work. but congress is sitting at home with nancy pelosi showing late night hosts about ice cream in her freezer. that's literally what's happening here. on the senate side with chuck schumer, they are holding up the paycheck protection program and they are not confirming the appointees of the president. the president is exactly right. the way to deal with this is to force them to go into recess then make it appointments through his power that he can do. lou: the idea that no president has done it in the history of the nation, no president has ever faced subversion and that's what it clearly is from the supposedly loyal opposition that has become a party of hate,

obstruction and subversion>> i . i can understand the frustration of the president. the other thing that can happen is mitch mcconnell can call the senate back into session right now. these senators are sitting at home. there is no reason why they can't get on an airplane. get their butt back to washington, d.c. and do some work. you have the small business administration has run out of money. they ought to be on the floor debating this issue night and day 24 hours a dane stead of sitting back and sending out tweets. i want their butts on the floor of the senate arguing and debating this and putting it up for vote after vote after vote. but mitch mcconnell thinks it's fine to give a south spoken speech and say i guess we'll have to wait until may 4. why should we wait? lou: i don't think we should.

i think the president made a determination that mitch mcconnell is given to waiting. he's given to understatement and cordiality in the face of an absolute act of subversion on the part of the democratic party. they should not be referred to as his colleagues. hardly colleagues as you put it in that all too temperate voice of his. i can't imagine why it's come to this. but it doesn't matter now. this president has a solution and he needs to move ahead. otherwise he's giving in to outright subversion. let's talk about the new developments in which the government appears to have clearly withdrawn its almost absolute statement of support for the wuhan bat explanation

for the coronavirus or wuhan virus as we call it on this broadcast. this is now a clear statement that the united states government has determined that china is responsible for these tens of thousands of deaths, and these millions of people who have been infected by this deadly virus. >> the evidence is become more and more clear. another argument, why congress should be in session as opposed to be on recess. there ought to be to direct ramifications for this. i want the investigation and the intelligence operations top continue to unearth the origins of this. anybody at this point that is trying to you point out or push in another direction is just misinforming the public. and shame on all those primarily democrats, not all, but primarily democrats who chastised this president from

the beginning of the process from pointing out the origins in china from the travel ban to the naming of it and how we are going to refer to it to the intelligence and understanding of the origin of it. america better come to grips with the reality of the relationship with china and the vulnerabilities it creates long term. lou: the alignment of the radical dimms with the leader of china rather than the united states, the interests of china rather than the interests of the united states and americans who are paying a heavy price for what china is responsible for. whatever happened in wuhan -- it just strikes me -- you were talking about, we need an investigation. my question is where in the hell was the cia and nsa. why don't we know more about

what is happening? what are we paying for? we don't know what china is doing. we don't know what russia is doing. we don't know what iran is doing. i wonder who these folks are spying on and surveilling and analyzing with the tens of millions of dollars we spend on our intelligence community. >> i would push back on that. my guess is the president has intelligence and he does know. there is a reason why the president put that travel ban into place when nobody else other than senator tom cotton was talking about it. and tom cotton didn't get a phone call from wuhan to tell him what was going on. he was probably reading and seeing things the rest of the senate wasn't paying attention to. my guess is they know a lot more but they can't say it. it would unearth -- i have been

out there -- go ahead. lou: no, you are sensitive to it and so am i and so are millions of americans. we have seen our government net react as quickly as it should. our intelligence services have disappointed us time and time again. they spent more time spying on this president than they have in briefing him. it's really -- i think we are at a crisis point as a nation and we better get over the idea that we have time for two-year investigations for what is obvious when there is political corruption that needs to be road out of our agencies. when enemies of this nation act against our interests we need to respond. i don't think we need to have a coffee clach before we do it.

jason chaffetz. you get the last word. >> i agree with that. you don't want a two-year exercise to figure this out. fortunately we have donald trump as the president who is taking action. i am just telling you, there are a lot of good men and women who put their lives on the line in those intelligence agencies and hats off to them. only to be subverted sometimes by their own congress or national media. lou: if our media can subvert our federal agencies responsible for our national security and well-being and all the good people you are talking about, then we have an even bigger crisis than i originally thought. jason, always good to have you with us. we would like to hear your thoughts on this. share your comments. a programming note.

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the u.s. navy reporting iranian vessels came dangerously close to u.s. naval ships in the persian gulf. the navy called iran's moves dangerous and provocative but did absolutely nothing in response. russia doing its best to i tim date the united states in the sky. a russian jet intercepted a u.s. spy plane over the mediterranean. the navy says the russian jet flew within 25 feet of our jet putting the pilots at risk. u.s. retirement fund for 6 million current and be retired federal and military employees may soon be invested in chinese defense firms or offensive firms. the u.s. investment board

decided to move $50 billion of retirement money into a new global investment index. that in order to earn greater runs on investment in asian markets. the investment board is reportedly in the final stables of completing that transaction that will happen this month. joining us tonight is kt mcfarland. kt is a former national security advisor to president trump. she is also a best-selling author and author of the new book "revolution, trump, washington and we the people." k bt, great to have you with us. let's start with the most disturbing developments i have heard in some time as we are watching the russians probe u.s. defenses and air space.

in this case encountering one of our aircraft in the mediterranean. the navy doing absolutely nothing and aloud an iranian versus -- allowed an iranian vessel to get within 25 yard of a coast guard cutter. what are they thinking permitting this nonsense. >> i'm less upset with that than what you said about china. iran, russia, they will all take advantage of the fact that we are dealing with the wuhan virus. they are going to taunt us into making a mistake. i am far more concerned with china he can ploight our preoccupation -- exploiting our

preoccupation. china is not making any miscalculations and mistakes. that's the danger. lou: i would like your thoughts about this. i am of the school that you don't get to choose always your enemies and the ones with which you have to deal. we have no less -- there has to be every bit as much energy directed to the protection of our forces anywhere in the world whether it's u.s. air space or the u.s. navy in the middle east, or it's china carrying out what could be a biological attack on the united states. we have to respond to all of those. i am a little surprised to hear you say it. it's almost -- i won't say it quite as harshly -- i don't might harshly. it sounds like a previous administration to me that anyone

would:permit one of our vessels on a cruise to be endangered by an iranian vessel that if it did have a bomb aboard it could do just as much damage as the terrorists did to the u.s.s. cole. we should have the military ready to be up on the balls of their feet rather than listening to risk-averse leadership in the pentagon. >> the united states made a strong statement taking out soleimani. they know trump could snap back and do something to them again. the russians are in economic distress. trump just saved them from economic collapse with the oil negotiations he had with russia and the saudis.

they try to do it one more time then you slap them down. but don't take the eye off the ball. the priority 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 is china. china is trying to use this moment of weakness that they caused by taking advantage of american companies and trying to control -- lou: you think it's a matter of priorities. i think the priorities should be national security and you secure your own forces no matter where they are. if the chinese are a priority, what is your response? what do we do? we can't just sit here and take it just as we couldn't with that iranian vessel 10 yards off the bow of a coast guard cutter. >> we shouldn't put up with any of it. but we particularly need to send a strong message to the chinese.

lou: what is the message. >> i would make sure u.s. military and the u.s. navy forces are in the south china sea, making it clear we are not leaving the south china sea or the western pacific. lou: if this turns out to be a biological weapon, kt, if this happens to be a conscious and overt act on the part of the chinese military and we know that's biological warfare is part of their military doctrine, a significant part just as cyber warfare or any other. if this were to turn out to be that, what should be the response? i am not interested in two and three year programs. this country is not operating in the 21st seasonture withy if we think we have time to retool and reposition and repurpose. we have to have an answer now.

>> we don't have time. this is not we'll get around to it. if china has unleashed chemical biological warfare on the world, i think it's the beginning of a new cold war which they started. the united states needs to stand up to the chinese economically, diplomatically, militarily. in cyberspace and covert operations and go to the chinese and say nothing of this goes on. if you want a cold war we'll match you. if you are going to push us there we are going to disengage and decouple from your economy. lou: if we don't go to war over the loss of 3,00 -- the loss of 31,000 american lives, what do

we go to war over. when do we stop sending strong letters and talking tough? when are there consequences for this behavior? we know this, that virus was unleashed on the world and they lied and that is the same as making it an intentional and conscious act of warfare as far as i'm concerned. >> i don't want to go to war with anybody. but economic warfare is where you start and we immediately start decoupling particularly our technology sectors from the chinese and bring it down hard on economic and technology transfer. not some day in the future, but tomorrow. lou: i think it's interesting that suddenly our -- some of our national security officials have decided that maybe the first

dismissal of any sort of conscious intent on their part in the wuhan virus being unleashed has been rethought. that's progress. but by god it's taken a long time. kt, thank you so much as always. thanks for being with us. a nurse has made a miraculous recovery from the wuhan virus after trying an experimental treatment showing much promise in many places across the country. he are dismissing that as anecdotal rather than scientific. but we are seeing positive results. something else called proning. it involves turning a patient on to their stomach. doctors say this lifts the weight off the lungs and opening up airways for patients suffering from the wuhan virus

to remove mucus buildup. joining us is the doctor who invented the process. joining us is the director of i.c.u. at southern hills hospital in las vegas. great to have you with us. i have to say first of all, good for you have and thanks for thinking out of the box and coming up with an original idea that obviously is a great benefit to your patients. how did you come up with it? >> well, here, lou, i would have to give credit to some of my heroes in some the hot spots in new york and new orleans and in detroit. those were actually the individuals who tipped us off that the technique of proning was valuable. in our fight against covid-19.

we immediately implemented that into our treatment strategies. then we improvised on it as well. lou: the idea of proning, it seems -- i never heard of it before this crisis, as you say, in hotpots, in vegas. in addition to those hotpots. why have we never heard of this before? >> so proning is something that we have used on occasionth critical care medicine as a rescue treatment. individuals who cannot breathe and have a breathing tube and have to go on a breathing machine. if they fail what we call conventional mechanical ventilation. our standard treatment on the breathing machine. then we have rescue treatments. proning happens to be one of those treatments.

but it's not something i would say is widely used because not many patients progress to that point. one of the very interesting things about our battle with covid-19 is that proning appears to work especially well. and we are having amazing results. and increased survival rates because of it in the intensive care unit. it's been so successful in our intensive care units we started to bring it outside of the intensive care units. lou: that is great news. when you say with anyone who is challenged or has difficulty breathing, is potentially a patient that this is part of the solution? >> so, yes. so originally we would use this when someone who is in complete respiratory failure.

they are on a breathing machine. we would use it as a rescue treatment to try to get them off. but it's been so successful as a treatment that we implemented using this on patient admitted to the hospital but are admitted to the floor. they are not admitted to the critical care unit. we are trying to implement and we are implementing it there to see if it would avoid them having to go to the intensive care unit. to see if it would avoid them progressing to needing a breathing machine, and it has. this has been a huge success for us as we are literally not only decreasing the need for intensive care, but we are decreasing the patient loads in our hospital because we are allowed to discharge the covid-19 patients home earlier. lou: doctor, that's terrific. we are over time.

but let me ask you this. you are oh innovative there at southern hills. are you also administering ever hydroxychloroquine? >> hydroxychloroquine is part of our treatment strategies. in general what we are following are the treatment guidelines by our national societies. one of them being the critical care medicine and infectious disease and that includes a recommendation to try hydroxychloroquine and many of our patient are receiving that treatment if we deem it's appropriate for an individual. lou: have you had positive results or negative or neutral? >> that is a difficult question to ask me. since i am on the front lines and i am so invested in my patient surviving that it's difficult for me not to have the

have the bias that i think hydroxychloroquine is effective for my patients because i want them to survive. when that happens we have such bias in medicine you have to let the researchers look at at data. lou: all right. we appreciate it. dr. voscopoulos. thanks for being with us. up next, rnc chair ronna mcdaniel. she has been annoyed by some people in the democratic party. stay with us. we'll be back after this. ♪ limu emu & doug [ siren ] give me your hand! i can save you...

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lou: president trump says nancy pelosi needs to get back to work. pelosi told colleagues they won't get back to work until may 4 unless there is an emergency. president trump said this in a tweet. she is totally incompetent and controlled by the radical left. a pathetic and weak puppet. come back to washington and do

your job. joining us, the rnc chairwoman ronna mcdaniel. can you imagine the speaker saying barring an emergency she won't be back until the 4th of may? your thoughts? >> i think it's disgusting that she is in her mansion in san francisco while millions of americans are losing their jobs, wondering if they are going to have a paycheck. wondering if their small business will remain open. and also losing their lives. she won't come back to washington and do her job in a time of crisis. i think the american people are being let down by the democrat party. if the the ppp loans allow the small businesses to stay open and continue to pay their employees. it's a disgrace to see nancy pelosi failing the american people at this time. lou: people who lose their jobs

and are desperate for help have only to look at chuck schumer and nancy pelosi and the democratic party for the consequences that they are unfairly going to bear. how does that make any political sense for even the radical democrats? >> it doesn't. i talked to someone today, a good friend of mine who said we cannot survive this. democrats refusing to extend the small business loans. they know how popular this program is. the president is there every day. dr. fauci, dr. birx, they are there every day helping us get through this crisis. for nancy pelosi to stay in her mansion at this time is so disgusting and disgraceful. the working class people in this

country should recognize the democrat party no longer stands for them. lou: the president making it very clear he's considering putting congress and the senate into recess if they are not going to work. and if all they are going to do is obstruct his nominees, he needs to move this government forward. that's what the american people elected him to do. what are four thoughts about for the first time in american history an american president saying to the senate and the house, you are no . >> i don't think the american people have realized the amount of obstruction this president has faced putting appointments in place in his administration. lou: really? >> he was elected. they have put so many votes to cloture, six, seven times what the past six presidents dealt with. it is truly amazing how many of

his nominees have not been able to get through. i think the president is just fed up. he is saying, i'm done. you're preventing our government from functioning, we're in a time of crisis. if you will not come back to washington to do your job. i don't need you, i will get people in and get this government working on my own. lou: they have, the american people have watched the democrats become the party of hate and to put together a, for the first time in my knowledge, an investigation of a sitting president, for an investigation of a presidential candidate. three years it went on, both by the fbi and the special counsel and the impeachment. my god, the american people i have to believe have a pretty good sense of the efforts of the democrats to overthrow this president and to subvert every policy that he has offered. >> yeah. i just don't know how many of

these nominations have gone to a cloture vote. i think with the past six presidents gone to cloture 20 times. first two year of this president went to cloture 600 times. astounding how many nominees the people have not been able to put through that the president nominated him for. lou: he has the support of the party doing this. your thoughts as we wrap up? >> listen, i trust the president. we are in a time of crisis. he is a war-time president, and if nancy pelosi refuses to come back to washington to govern, i don't know what choice she is giving him. lou: ronna mcdaniel always great to have you with us. thank you so much. good to see you. >> thank you. lou: on wall street today, stocks finished higher, dow up 33 points, s&p up 16, nasdaq gained 139. volume on on the big board moderating to 5.2 billion

shares. reminder to listen to my reports three times a day coast to coast on the salem radio network. president trump today at the white house praising truck drivers in the midst of this pandemic. here he is. >> truck drivers leave their homes and deliver supplies that american families need and count on during this national crisis and at all other times. they're always there. their routes connect every farm, hospital, manufacturer, business and community in the country. in the war against the virus american truckers are the foot soldiers who are really carrying us to victory and they are, they have done an incredible job. lou: indeed they have and our thanks to them. tomorrow night dr. mehmet oz, john salomon, pastor robert jeffress join us. we who hope you will join us then. they will be among our guests

tomorrow there and we hope you will join us. a reminder to follow me on twitter @loudobbs and like me on facebook and instagram @loudobbs tonight. tonight. thanks for being with harvey levin: the objects people choose to keep in their home define who they are. this is... i feel like i'm in an alfred hitchcock movie. i'm harvey levin. this is the story about a poor child who literally fought his way to the top of the world thanks to his guardian angel, a cranky old man. he was the first person who really gave you hope. oh, my god. i'm getting watery-eyed. - it's okay. - i can't talk right now. harvey: mike tyson's life started out bleak. your mom was a prostitute, your dad was a pimp. you were arrested like 38 times by the time you were 13 years old. well, i wasn't a good crook, i guess. his legal problems legendary, but the rape trial, well, he passes that off as racism.