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>> as soon as it is safe. may 8th. we're allowed to have practice one player at a time. once we learn from that experience i think we'll be back out there. i'm confident we'll play a season this year, lou. ♪. lou: mark, thanks so much. elizabeth: okay, stocks fall, the dow snapping a four-day winning streak as big tech shares slide. this is a peak week for earnings season. a third of the s&p 500, reporting the first post-pandemic earning. look at this, google reporting better than expected sales, despite hit to advertising this is what is happening, apple, amazon, microsoft, facebook do report tomorrow. the dow ended the day down. nasdaq, also s&p down and transports, russell 2000 in the green. the big headlines for you tonight. nearly 57,000 americans dead. thousands more fighting for their lives. nearly half of the 50 states
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struggling to reopen over the next several weeks. thousands of businesses are battling to stay open. but the house of representatives not reopening for business. like democrat house speaker nancy pelosi said it would. supposed to open on may 4th. now that's not happening. the president mocking the democrats saying that the democrats are on vacation. house minority speaker kevin mccarthy, says he expected a plan for the house to reopen. with us, secretary of the va. wall street pro, dennis gartman, and rnc national spokesperson liz harrington. we'll be talking about exactly when the states will reopen. the constitutional fight there. the new drugs, vaccines and hope. more news on antibody tests as well and more news about the evidence that supports the claims of tara reade who accused joe biden of sexual assault. what tara reade is now demanding joe biden do.
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if he doesn't do it, why critics warn it will undercut biden's credibility. thanks for joining us. i'm elizabeth macdonald. "the evening edit" starts right now. ♪. elizabeth: welcome to the show. i'm elizabeth macdonald. we've got a fox business exclusion system robert wilkie, on the white house coronavirus task force. he is veterans affair secretary. great to see you, sir. >> good to be back with you, liz, thank you. elizabeth: let's get right to it. i want to get your take on what is happening now. the push by the white house to send all 50 states enough tests to screen nearly 3% of their residents. the federal government should be the last resort for needed test kits. that is what the president is saying. what is your reaction to this? >> i certainly support the president's action. the standards that some are
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trying to impose on us are probably impossible. i think the president said in his last conference he could test everyone and then somebody would ask, why he didn't test the second tranche. what we've done at va, because we have a smaller population within our hospitals, we have tested all of our veterans in nursing homes. that is about 7,000. we have conducted well over 80,000 tests but we focused on the most vulnerable veterans out there and what we found because the president told us to engage in public health measures early on, of those 7,000, less than 5% actually have the virus. majority of those veterans are in the northeast and in other hot spots in the midwest. elizabeth: sir, am i correct in saying that, that 400 vets have passed away? you also have 2000 veteran affair workers who are sick, 20 have died.
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is pushback on what is going on at va. you haven't been at the briefings. what is going on there. >> you haven't seen many of us, hhs secretary, several of my cabinet colleagues. we're there when we are needed, i've done two or three. because of social distancing you're seeing fewer and fewer of us every time. you used statistics. we have had sadly 471 veterans pass away but we have not been overwhelmed at va. 6900 veterans tested positive out of nine 1/2 million. of those 6900, 3900 have gone beyond 14-day limit we can say they're doing fine and returned home. so we're doing pretty well in the sense we only have 500 veterans with the virus who are in our hospitals. and that has allowed us to engage our fourth mission. we are in 38 states now. we have open beds to the public
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and all of our va regions. we are in nursing homes all across the country. because we are there to provide the general public, the american people, with the safety net should they need it. our people are doing heroic duty elizabeth: so, there was pushback about this study. >> yes. elizabeth: about the effectiveness of hydroxychlorquine. i think 368 vets took it but the media misreported this because, correct me if i'm wrong, these veterans were in the last stages of the illness? it does not work on preexisting conditions, this malaria drug, if you're, if it is a severe case, the drug will not work, is that a correct assessment? >> yes. you have used more truth in about a minute than most of the mainstream media has done in the last two weeks. first of all, it wasn't even a va study.
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we gave information when asked about, about 350 veterans. sadly those veterans were in the last stages of life and because this president has been about using every available means to protect life and to extend life, we were able to use the drug in consultation with the veterans doctors, in case it did work. what i will also add is that we have seen it work. we've seen it work, in fact most of us who are at va, who served in the military have taken it throughout our careers. the day that i addressed this study for the first time on national television, the governor of new york was asking the president in the oval office for thousands and thousands of doses of it. but your assessment is correct t was not a clinical trial t was not peer reviewed. someone put together facts without even investigating the underlying conditions of those veterans who received that drug,
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just threw it out, said, some we were putting veterans at risk and disgustingly, some people said we were using veterans to experiment. and that is as vial an accusation that i have seen in the, almost two years that i've been the secretary of the department. elizabeth: yeah. so this, what is happening in the coronavirus outbreak it is triggering credibility crises across the country. americans, will just say we'll not listen to you anymore, we'll not believe you anymore if you make false statements, misstatements like that without checking the facts. let's get to this. 23 states struggling to reopen. imhe models forecasting 74,000 deaths last we checked. there is concern if we push to reopen soon, you will trigger more cases, more infections. your reaction on the push to reopen? >> we have to be cautious. i happen to sit at the table with dr. fauci and dr. birx and
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listened to the president's instruction. we have a vulnerable population. about half of our veterans are over the age of 65. of the 7800 veterans who are in our nursing homes, more than half are from world war ii and korea. they are among the most vulnerable americans. i will not reopen va to normal business until we meet the standards put together by the president's task force and we abide by those standards. there are a lot of placeses in the country, liz, where the virus has not taken hold. we'll certainly look at those first but we will follow the guidelines set by the president. elizabeth: mr. wilkie, thank you so much for joining us, va secretary robert wilkie. we appreciate your time, sir. come back soon. >> it is always good being with you, liz. thank you. elizabeth: same here. thank you, sir, for your service to our country. next up we'll stay on roughly
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half of the country, 23 states doing a reopen. texas doing a limited reopening. anti-lockdown protests in dozens of states. we'll bring in wall street legend dennis gartman on the road forward. what you need to know about later in the show. tara reade has accused joe biden of sexual assault. calling on joe biden's to release his staff records in last 36 years. it will show the complaint form, separation letter. that is what tara reade says. tara reade is throwing down, saying possibly more staffer complaints against joe biden. rnc national spokesperson liz harrington is this coming up. stay there. ♪ limu emu & doug [ siren ] give me your hand! i can save you...
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♪. elizabeth: let's welcome dennis gartman, retired, basically he is the editor of "the gartman letter," cio. dennis, great to have you on. >> always good to be on. elizabeth: okay, at least half the states have plans to reopen. texas will do a limited reopening starting this week. we have major anti-lockdown protests continuing in dozens of states. the president says he agrees with attorney general bill barr who is directing the civil rights division at the justice department and all u.s. attorneys to be on the lookout for states and towns violating constitutional rights and civil
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liberties of state residents in their lockdowns. your take what is going on in this country right now, dennis, and your forecast for the economy? >> first of all this is a problem we've never had before. hopefully we shall never have it again. hopefully we come up with a vaccine not in the near future. news from england today was very beneficial, very supportive. the news out of gilead was less than exciting. so we'll have a vaccine but my concern the economy is not going to rebound as quickly as the president would like to have us think it shall. we talk about a v-bottom. i think we'll have something more like a w or even an l. the propensity of people to go into airplanes, restaurants, to run to stores as soon as there is an ability to do so i think will be greatly diminished. so i'm not nearly as enthusiastic as a lot of people are. and for the first time in quite some period of time i went short
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of stocks this afternoon, marginally. the operative word is marginally. elizabeth: operative is marginally. i get it. you tend to stay own the safe side. i've been following you for years. 40% of americans have immediate family member out of work. cbo reporting 40% of the u.s. economy gets hit or possibly wiped out. this is really dangerous territory. americans are asking how much longer are we supposed to stay in lockdown? what's the standard? are we waiting for the fatalities to fall below a certain number for hospitalizations to evaporate? what is the standard, that's what they want to know? >> i wonder what the standard is. the governor here in virginia has early on locked us down until june 10th, if you can believe that. clearly there will be some reduction in that over time. it has to be, because people are, starting to get quite antsy. do we expect to continue to remain locked down through the middle of june? i hope not. the number about protests taking
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place out there i think are reasonably to be expected and likely shall continue to be. let us hope when we bring, when 23 states or 24 states, however many there are, unlocking their economies do so, that we don't have a resurgence but i suspect that the economy will bounce back quickly to begin with and level back off after that. i am afraid there is a number of bankruptcies that will occur, number of closures will occur. like i said i'm not nearly as optimistic as most people want to be and as the president would like us to be. elizabeth: this country has been through pandemics before. >> yes. elizabeth: everybody realizes you have to do things safely and not cause anymore infections or fatalities. look at these images of crowds on beaches. thousands turned out in southern california. california governor gavin newsom said yesterday he will send in law enforcement to california's beaches to insure public health restrictions like social distancing.
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we know that deaths in l.a. county doubled last week. here is interesting, dennis. more people began ignoring shut-down orders two weeks ago based on smartphone locations. that is what the university of maryland found. just 31% appeared to have stayed home in people they looked at, down from a national average, national average week prior was 33%. so people are ignoring the shutdowns and going out. look at the 538 map from nate silver. this is when u.s. states peaked. you will show, see the warmer, southern states still having a problem but you're going to see where the peaks are already met and where they're still trouble. your reaction to all of this, dennis? >> warmer southern states are not as warm as they like them to be. virginia it should be in the 70s or 80s. today it was 68 degrees. hopefully warmer weather will
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curtail the virus. supposedly warm southern states are not nearly as warm we like them to be. so much for global warming. elizabeth: dennis gartman, thanks for joining us. we really appreciate it. >> thank you, liz. always an honor. elizabeth: okay, same here. we have the optimism, the hope for you. the race for the cure and vaccines picking up around the world. more than 1000 drug trials we're tracking right now to fight covid-19 in more than 100 countries. again this is about hope. we're bringing it to you, and we've got the latest from the world's largest vaccine maker. it is in india. now ramming up to make 40 million doses of a vaccine before this fall, possibly by june. that story is coming up next. stay with us. life isn't a straight line.
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elizabeth: welcome back. let's bring in our next guest, dr. martin mccontrary, health policy expert from johns hopkins. great to have you on, doctor. your reaction to news the house of representatives will not come back to work may 4th as originally suggested. senate is coming back to work.
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americans are scared, fighting for economic lives, fighting for their health and their lives, they want to see more testing going on. it looks like the white house is picking up all of the weight there. as house of representatives still not back in, not coming back to work. your reaction? >> those of us in medicine, doctors and nurses we like to work and we don't really understand the idea of taking off. we take care of each other, we give each other breaks. we like to work. there is a lot going on in the country right now. by the way this is not the only problem in america. there is other issues. so i talked to people in the administration and they are working harder than anyone i have ever seen work in government right now. i think we shouldn't leave them alone. elizabeth: yeah. i hear what you're saying. i mean the president, keeps saying he did inherit a broken system. we know that, the pandemic response in the federal government, the national stockpile was depleted of masks after h1n1. you know, it is not, what he was
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left with to deal with was not state of the art, not cinematically picture-perfect. like trying to fix a freight train racing down the tracks at 100 miles an hour. that is what is happening right now with what the president is trying to do. i covered pandemics, i covered epidemics, i covered the anthrax attacks. i listened to disease experts consistently testify before congress since 1980s, that another pandemic is coming. your reaction to that? >> the number one issue coming out of the covid problem is preparedness. i have not heard anything moving our supply chain, moving our medication, ppe manufacturing back to the united states. where is the great journalism where the ceos are pressed why they moved things overseas and what is their plan to move it back to the united states? that is important work. i think that should be the work of congress right now.
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elizabeth: yeah. that is exactly right. bring the supply chains back home. that is what health experts have been saying. economists have been saying that. it can't happen again. virus outbreaks will happen again. let's get to the hope, let's get to the optimism. the race for the cure and vaccines picking up. more than 1000 drug trials now happening around the world to fight covid-19 in more than 100 nations this is about hope. your take on the largest vaccine maker in india, the serum institute, ramping up to make 40 million doses of the vaccine by the fall, developed by oxford university. what is your reaction to that? clinical trials already begun. they're saying sometime may, sometime june, the trials could get underway and vaccine could come rapidly? your take on this? >> it is clear there is a race to get the vaccine. the first company that get as vaccine may put a lockout on every other country. virtually do that by they control the supply chain.
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they may immunize everybody in the country before they share it with the world. the dr. gottlieb, former fda commissioner highlighted that in the wall street op-ed this weekend. there are seven trials for vaccines in human, around the world. three in the united states. third one is just starting and three in china. china is further along in more advanced stages. they're in face two and phase three trials. they have to move quickly. get rid of whatever red tape and barriers exist, we have to break that down especially at the fda. elizabeth: your take on scientists now even studying the active ingredient in common heartburn medication called pepsid. this chemical, scientists are saying that the drug acts a decoy, the chemical is reportedly believed to call the enzyme in the covid virus to attach to it, instead of the virus binding to the human cell and then spreading.
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what is your take on this story? >> yeah, that is the mechanism that theoretically this enzyme could distract the virus from infecting key cells in the lungs. it is interesting i think but i, remember, there is a tremendous amount of enthusiasm around drugs that are already on the shelf. i am most excited about the drugs not yet come down the pipe through the fda but this medication is interesting and northwell has enrolled just over 100 patients in this trial. they got the idea from a massachusetts general hospital harvard physician that was in china, saw patients infected with covid-19 and noticed that the poor patients were frequently on this medication and when they looked at all survivors, the more poor patients because they were on the cheaper version of this heartburn medication, they tended to do a little better. that is where the idea came from. it is interesting. they combined it with the hydroxychlorquine trial at northwell. elizabeth: right.
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what drugs are you excited about, quickly? >> i'm excited about the drugs that reduce your body's cytokine storm, essentially your internal attack on your own lung tissue. great drugs are out there in development right now. i talked to the investigators. they would love to move quicker. i'm excited about the stem cell therapy that replaces damaged tissue in the long real time without injections using your own stem cells. there is a lot of cool stuff out there. we have to let our scientific community work, to do their job. elizabeth: what is your quick take on the governor cuomo saying, according to 4,000 new york city residents, one in four already have it, already have antibodies? this means plasma treatment. people may have immunity, we don't know the level of it just yet. the plasma treatments we saw happen with mers, with spanish flu, with sars, with h1n1, what your take on one in four
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new yorkers possibly already exposed to it and the china outbreak, hong kong scientists saying the china outbreak is probably four times bigger than we realize and started as we've been reporting here in "the evening edit," what happened in china, that outbreak happened much earlier, months earlier than china is reporting? your take on all of that? >> thank you for reporting accurately. i don't know why people read statistics from china appear on our johns hopkins map. reality we know they underreported by magnitude of 10 to 30. new york, there was a study suggested 21% of people have the immune antibody but probably a little lower. probably closer to 10 to 20%. areas outside of boston like chelsea, reported a 30% antibody response. nationwide, think of it as two to 5% positive antibody. does that mean you're immune? we look at other coronaviruses
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even though the w.h.o. says we don't know, we know other coronaviruses like sars, give two to three-year immunity, mers, another coronavirus gives at least a three-year immunity. elizabeth: interesting. great information, doctor. come back soon. we love having you on. great insights, dr. macquarie. thank you, sir. u.s. navy thunderbirds put on a aerial show in honor of the first-responders on the front lines. this is great sight. it is about hope. we'll be right
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♪ elizabeth: let's bring in our next guest, rnc national spokesperson liz harrington.
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great to see you, liz. >> great to see you. elizabeth: this story is now gaining ground. it has major implications for the 2020 race. growing evidence that supports the claims that tara reade, who accuses joe biden of sexual assault in the early 90s. two women, a work colleague, and a neighbor now say tara reade did tell them about the sexual assault allegations by joe biden, around the time that it happened. tara reade has also filed an incident report against joe biden with police in washington and a new clip shows tara reade's mother, calling into larry king show in 1993 asking for advice what to do about this at the time. your reaction to all of this? >> the hypocrisy by the mainstream media and democrats is stunning because there are two very different standards of play. if you're a republican, no matter if there is no corroborating evidence against you, you will be treated as guilty. your name dragged the through
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the mud and they will never stop talking about it for 24 hours even if they never prove it f you're a democrat, not only if you have a credible allegation against you, not only will you be treated as innocent, they will act as if the allegation doesn't exist and that's what's the stunning thing. the sunday shows, there were zero mentions of this, new, credible evidence. remember in the case of brett kavanaugh, there was never even evidence that he had ever even met christine blast sy -- blasey ford. on its face, tara reade worked for him. five people came forward that she had the same story at the time. on its face it is more credible than ever than the case was against brett kavanaugh. elizabeth: before i get to the silence ever the democrats, tara reade, late this afternoon, today, stayed on the dnc story, don't move the script, because i got to get to this.
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tara reade, liz, is now saying i want the biden library to release all of his, biden's staff records when he was senator for 36 years. tara reade is saying it will show her complaint against biden, the reason why she left, you know, stopped working for him, potentially also will show other potential complaints against joe biden. that is what tara reade is saying. the. >> what is the standard? applied to republicans say, if you have nothing to hide, release the transcript, have an fbi investigation, let's investigate a house party when you don't even know the location or the year that it happened. and they did that. they investigated it. if it is a democrat, and there are records why won't joe biden release them if he says, his campaign, of course he hasn't been asked by the mainstream media, if the campaign says this never happened? the public deserves to weigh
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these allegations. people deserved to be treated as innocent until proven guilty but the real problem here is the media is not even asking the question and presenting the public with the facts. elizabeth: yeah. silence of the democrats, nancy pelosi, not saying anything, jerry nadler, adam schiff, chuck schumer staying silent about the allegations. democratic national committee chair tom perez is saying silent. tom perez said in 2017 that any candidate or elected official who is engaged in sexual misconduct should step aside. listen to what tara reade, watch tara reade is saying in interview with fox news. i like my history with biden to be examined in a dignified way. that is not slanted by political bias or sensationalized. i would like a deeper conversation about the fact that sexual harrassment and sexual assault do not have political party. it is not an agenda.
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it is equal opportunity offender. there are democrat oaf -- offenders around i'm republican offenders. i'm sure green party. i have no substantial support from women's group considered liberal or democratic. i have no support from any liberal candidate. i reached out, slanted talking reports from buy den's campaign, silence from the mainstream media. that is my contention, my concern. your reaction? >> maybe no coincidence on same day all the new corroborating evidence coming out to support a woman's accusation against joe biden, he is on the phone, doing a live stream with hillary clinton whose record is very clear on the subject of believing women and trying to sabotage their names who accused her husband. i also want to remind your viewers, remember what senator mazie hirono said during the brett kavanaugh affair.
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she said it is time for men to shut up. now all the democrats are shutting up, aren't they? they are completely silent on its face has a lot more credibility than the, than any of the allegations against brett kavanaugh which were absurd on their face. elizabeth: also, also the women who are talked about as being biden's choice for vice president, listen to kamala heche harris, kamala harris says she believes joe biden accusers. watch kamala harris on joe biden. >> i believe them. and i respect them being able to tell their story and having courage to do it. >> you do believe that the vice president should exit this race? >> he will have to make that decision for himself. i wouldn't tell him what to do. elizabeth: what do you think of that, liz? your final word? >> well now that it is clear that biden is the presumptive nominee, it will be interesting to see if kamala harris still
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holds that position with this allegation, because proximity to power, certainly seems like that plays a lot more than getting to the bottom of the truth of the matter for democrats. that is why they refused to call out this allegation because it is only about power and politics. it is not about getting to the truth. elizabeth: yeah. by the way, at that time in early '90s, joe biden was chair of the powerful senate judiciary committee. early '90s was the days of oregon senator bob packwood who quit before he was kicked out of the senate before because of sexually assaulting women. i know that because i covered it. more whereabouts are north korea dictator kim jong-un has not been seen for public in weeks now. we'll dig into this mystery next. you think of people in a place. but when you have the chase mobile app,
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♪. elizabeth: let's welcome our next guest, retired u.s. army major general robert scales. great to have you back on, general. >> hi, liz. elizabeth: okay, let's dig into the mystery of the whereabouts of north korea's communist dictator kim jong-un. he has not been seen in public for weeks now. he was absent from public ceremonies celebrating the anniversary, birthday of his grandfather, the founder of the communist regime there. general, he never misses that. top south korean officials say the government does know the whereabouts of him. they didn't say anything more than that. what do you think about what is going on here? >> well, first of all, i've been covering korea for 40 years, witnessed the death of his father and grandfather. the bottom line of north korea, bottom line we don't know. chinese don't know. the north koreans are experts at
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keeping secrets. they have done this since 1953 the only unifying theme between all of the players is, only thing worse than kim jong-un being alive is the same guy being dead. that would have terrible consequences for the region should he, should he no longer be with us, with no apparent success sore in line. it would be, it would be, it would be an international tragedy. elizabeth: why? >> well, because he has no heir. the country is in an incredible state right now. i have don't know, just so our viewers know, the worst time of the year in north korea for the food supply is march and april because that is when all the winner stocks of food are depleted and there is no harvest yet. we don't know what the coronavirus is, what affect that is having on north korea but it can't be good.
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north korea has a 900-mile border with china. we know what is going on in china. and, and there is no one to succeed him. they say his sister may be in line for that but, you know. the "me too" movement hasn't hit north korea. they're not particularly in favor of female leaders in particularly in north korea. a state where the military would take over would be a much worse solution. elizabeth: china would not want to reunify with north korea at this point. >> no. elizabeth: reports are coming in, u.s. has sent, unconfirmed reports that the u.s. sent five spyplanes to north korea. there is rumors about his health. there are talks that the spyplanes will eaves dropp communications. watch troop movements. south korea, sent spyplanes.
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unconfirmed reports. unconfirmed reports that leader of north korea is in vegetative state following a heart procedure that went wrong, due to installation after stent. we keep seeing reports that the north korean leader is releasing, messages to, to syria, cuba, south africa. general is not camera shy. he likes to go on camera. why aren't there any photos of him right now? why are there no videos of kim jong-un? the media in north korea is not putting out any images from him. he is not camera shy. he likes to be on camera? >> you made a call about two years ago. we went through this before when he had an operation to fix a strained or broken ankle. he doesn't like to appear to be in a less than perfect physical state. that may be part of it. but the bottom line, liz, there is nobody knows. my sense he is lying low because
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he may have some, you know, malady. it may be a botched operation. i mean, the state of medicine in north korea is not terribly good. but frankly, at this stage, nobody knows. i do think the united states command in korea is ramping up their surveillance to get some hint of what is going on. so far from my sources, the people i know in korea, no one knows any better than the north koreans and the north koreans are not talking. >> quite a mystery. we'll have you back on about it, major general robert scales. now retired. thank you so much for your service to our country. we love having you on. >> thank you, liz. elizabeth: same here. love having you on. okay, just ahead we'll stay on the tara reade story. it has major implications for the 2020 race. it is gaining traction. we're going to debate next why much of the mainstream media now accused of silence on this. we're bringing in christopher bedford.
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♪. elizabeth: welcome back to "the evening edit. we're staying on the tara reade story. again it has major implications
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for the 2020 race. let's bring in our next guest, the federal "the federalist" senior editor, christopher bedford. good to see you. >> good to see you. elizabeth: media is silence on this, cnn slow to report its own "larry king live" clip with tara reade's own mother calling in saying she is upset, the daughter has a problem with the senator. when cnn on the air, michael avenatti on the brett kavanaugh allegations. all of that. seems like mia silence to tara reade. why? >> silence optioned shows, silence in the newspapers. their own network completely ignoring it. seems clear that biden is candidate propped up by number of folks in the media, including cnn, including sunday shows. he was chosen candidate after they realized other ones did not
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work. they didn't want joe biden or bernie sanders. stark contrast to brett kavanaugh, had a accuser but not a single person. none of her friend were saying this is true. for joe biden accuser, friend, colleagues, neighbor, her mother since passed corroborating it on national television. to ignore this, is to ignore me too and ignore the last year-and-a-half we thought we made gains. doesn't mean that joe biden is guilty that people are corroborating it. it means the media is guilty for ignoring it. elizabeth: you know, this was a time of bob packwood, the oregon senator who was basically quit before he was pushed out in early '90s for sexually harassing, and assaulting women. i covered d.c. at that time. you know, joe biden was chair of the powerful senate judiciary committee at that time. you couldn't be a woman and a whistleblower talking about
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sexual harrassment and sexual assault in the early '90s. it just didn't happen back then. tara reade is saying to joe biden, pony up, release your senate, you know, senate staff records of your employees. you will find my complaint letter. you will find my separation letter. she is saying you also may find other complaints from other senate staffers who worked for joe biden. if he does not do that, if he doesn't pony up, joe biden, release his records, does that undercut his credibility even more? >> tara reade's only mistake here thinking there was some kind of fairness. this would be judged on its merits as opposed to judged based on politics. elizabeth: chris, i'm asking you, wait, wait, chris, stop, stop. i'm asking awe simple question. should joe biden release his senate staff records and if he doesn't, does that undercut his credibility? >> yes. absolutely should. i think that has been misreade's point. why don't you go forward what
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you have, your records contain which i say will contain my complaint. joe biden doesn't have to release those technically under the law for two years after he left public life. if he hides it now, if he doesn't release brett kavanaugh released his personal diary and schedule, if he doesn't release the notes, that massively impunes his credibility, exactly to your point. >> chris, i'm so sorry. i i didn't mean to say stop. that was fur rude and mean. i apologize. "washington post" criticized watering down headlines, initially said quote, developments and allegations against biden amplify efforts to question his behavior. the post-changed ally, trump allies highlight new claims against joe biden. "new york times" accused of deleting a phrase about joe biden, that was a negative phrase. they erased it from the story after the biden campaign
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complained. "the times" delete ad phrase about biden's quote, hugs and kisses, touching women, women previously said made them uncomfortable. editor of "new york times" says i think the biden campaign thought the phrasing was awkward. made it look like there were other instances where he had been accused of sexual misconduct. what is going on with this, really? >> unbelievable, that editor of "new york times" admit deletion was made, omission was made to satisfy the biden campaign. long assumed that press is mouthpiece for democrats. right there you have complete admission of it. it is laid bare. elizabeth: you know what? i'm telling you something, viewers, we're staying on the tara reade story. we'll drill into that. christopher bedford, you're terrific. come back soon. we love having you on. >> thanks, liz. elizabeth: that does it for us. i'm elizabeth macdonald. you're watching "the evening edit" on fox business. thanks for joining us. hope you have a good evening. join us tomorrow night.
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