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the president today addressed the issue during a meeting with the governor of louisiana. >> it's coming in, and i'm getting pieces already, and we're not happy about it. we are, by far, the largest contributor to w.h.o., world health. and they misled us. i don't know, they must have known more than they knew. right now they're literally a pipe organ for china. china's not to be congratulated for what happened, just so you understand it. they're not to be congratulated for what took place. and w.h.o. is essentially congratulating them. and when they start doing that, we've got problems. lou: and the president's secretary of state, mike pompeo, demanding china provide access to u.s. investigators into those laboratories in wuhan where it is believed the deadly contagion that has plagued the world originated.
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it has also been widely reported the chinese government weeks ago ordered all virus samples in wuhan laboratories to be destroyed. secretary pompeo today told fox news that the united states has major concerns about those laboratories and that it is time for the united states and the rest of the world to stop believing the endless stream of lies spun up by the communist chinese party. >> they're trying to figure their way out of this. what the chinese communist party did here in not preventing the spread around the world, they're responsible for it, america needs to hold them accountable. i'm still concerned that the chinese communist party is not telling us all of what's taking place in each of the labs all across china today. lou: and major developments in the race to create a therapeutic treatment against the wuhan virus, gilead -- the biopharmaceutical company behind the experimental drug
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remdesivir -- today revealed significant positive results in trials of the drug which brought both hope that we now have an effective therapeutic in the fight against the virus and, on wall street, it was immediately cheered. the indexes rallying big on the news, in fact and incredibly in midst of arguably the worst crisis in u.s. history since world war ii, the s&p 500 is now on track to post its best monthly performance in 46 years. gilead reporting a new study that shows the drug helped patients recover more quickly and are reduced fatalities. the good news reportedly spurring the food and drug administration to consider authorizing the emergency use of the drug. for more on this blockbuster development, we turn to correspondent william la jeunesse in los angeles. william? >> reporter: hey, lou, this could be huge. with our animated dr. fauci
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saying remdesivir is an effect i treatment against the virus. -- effective treatment. >> the data shows that remdesivir has a clear-cut, significant positive effect in diminishing the time to recovery. this is really quite important for a number of reasons. >> reporter: is so fauci said this is not a complete knockout, but the drug reduces severity of symptoms and recovery time by 4 days from 15 down to 11, improved the mortality rate, and patients showed a 31% improvement. president trump today was equally upbeat. >> i thought tony explained it really well. it's a beginning, it mean you build on it. just as a building block, i i love that. but certainly it's a positive, it's a very positive event from that standpoint. >> reporter: so researchers are taking two approaches to beating this virus. one, a vaccine, that's the holy grail, to inoculate byer
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populations. -- entire populations. the second are drugs like remdesivir. five other drugs are also in phase two or three human trials meaning the drugs are shown to be safe, now the question how effective are they on patients with moderate to severe symptoms. most believe these antiviral drugs could be deployed faster than a vaccine, but yesterday pfizer said it may have a vaccine ready for limited use by this fall until it can scale production. still clearly a few today was encouraged by the nih study of remdesivir. >> it is a very important proof of concept, because what it has proven is that a drug can block this virus. >> reporter: so the w.h.o. says it's too early to comment, that one study is not a game-changer, but clearly, lou, this is better news than we've had the last eight weeks. and fauci said it provides a new baseline for patients and then they could receive other drugs to, hopefully, improve their
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conditions. back to you. lou: as you say, william with, very encouraging possibility and one that could be put to use almost immediately. william la jeunesse, thank you very much. with the race to combat the wuhan virus moving into positive territory the race for the white house is really, well, it's revealing more about the left-wing national media's political bias. as if we needed any further evidence. in what appears to be a closed feedback loop between the biden campaign and the new york times. radical dems have recently pushed the biden cam -- campaign's talking points about the sexual assault allegations made by tara reid against the former president -- vice president, rather. the dems is are trying to claim reid's charges are resolved because "the new york times" recently concluded in an article that they found no pattern of sexual misconduct. but the times today said that's inaccurate for the biden campaign to suggest the paper's
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investigation about reid's allegations did not happen. the article did have a reference about, quote, the hugs, kisses and touching that women previously said made them uncomfortable. but that phrase was edited out by the biden campaign's request. witnessing how cozy "the new york times" is with the biden campaign made us wonder a bit about, perhaps, other important stories. for example, what has the times reported on the up precedented war against the mexican drug cartels and mexico's all-time high murder rate? just for an example? well, here's what happened with a brief google search by producer eric schafer. the top results on google news include "el chapo"'s daughter handling -- handing out coronavirus aid, another of how mexico's government can't stop the drug cartels from handing out aid and how the wuhan virus
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epidemic has disrupted the global drug trade and inconvenienced the cartels. the times has what i think are interesting editors and certainly interesting perspectives, don't you? more shocking revelations concerning christopher steele, the author of the discredited, phony dossier. according to a british court transcript obtained by just the news, or steele testified that he believes both hillary clinton and susan rice knew about his anti-trump research. as our first guest here points out, it is the most direct link yet between steele's russia collusion and the top of the clinton campaign and the obama white house. joining us tonight is john solomon, editor-in-chief of the new media outlet "just the news." john, good to have you with us. let's start with a number of things, but the revelations by
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the attorney for general steele -- general steele, general flynn and the fact that again there is just more evidence being -- here we are almost four years into this sorry, sordid attempt to overthrow a president, and we're still -- >> that's right. lou: -- finding thousands of pages of documents. what is the latest? >> well, i think we're going to learn tonight or early tomorrow morning that we will see the release of some new handwritten notes that the fbi failed to turn over to general flynn, to general flynn and his team over the three year course of his legal battle. and if those notes are going to show that the fbi was engaged in the conversation about how they could trick general flynn into lying. rather than reo the issues that the investigation -- resolve the issues that was investigation was designed to, there are references in these notes to, quote, playing games, to do we want to resolve this or catch
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him in a lie? if those are in the notes as my sources have described them, it will put the fbi's work on the flynn case in the darkest possible light. you'll actually have fbi proof that the fbi wasn't trying to investigate facts neutrally, it was trying to, quote, play a game. lou: yeah, play a game. they were trying to frame a general, general flynn, and the president's national security adviser for pure political reasons. it's outrageous. it's not much of a hypothetical here, is there? >> i don't think these notes will leave hypothesis left. it will be clear and convincing evidence that the fbi engaged in conduct that it's not supposed to have engaged in. this was never designed at least from these notes to have been an honest interview. and that's why you see sydney powell, the general's lawyer, using terms like framing and entrapment. i think these notes are going to
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make that case very strongly. lou: sydney powell said point-blank on this broadcast the fbi was trying to frame her client, and i don't see much room for dispute. >> that's right. lou: let's turn to christopher steele and these revelations that his statements in court, in the point of fact, that he believed that susan rice and hillary clinton herself knew about his opposition research and so did, by the way, the law firm representing the dnc and the democratic party as well as the hillary clinton campaign or at least part of it. >> yeah. these are very important and new revelations. this testimony just occurred a couple of weeks ago this london. and what we now know is that christopher steele was told right when he began his work both with the fbi and for the clinton dnc law firm that this was going to benefit the clinton campaign, his research on donald trump, his dirt-digging on
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donald trump and that hillary clinton herself, he was told, was in the loop on it and knew about the research. and what's even more important, he divulges in this court testimony he had notes of his conversations with the fbi. remember, the fbi can't tell us whether they knew -- when they knew he was working for hillary clinton campaign. his notes of his conversation with the fbi purportedly -- according to his own testimony -- show he told the fbi right out of the box, this has something to do with hillary clinton's campaign, my research that i'm providing to the fbi. that should have been a red flag. instead it was stuck under a chair and hidden from the american public and from the courts for a long time. lou: and what do you make of christopher steele's statement point-blank that his notes on sources, his documents, the view -- if you can call it that, if it was that -- were wiped away, simply disappeared in january of 2017? >> yeah. they were erased, very much like
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the clinton hard drives in the e-mail case. it's unusual for an intelligence asset, particularly one who was working with the fbi, to suddenly destroy all of his evidence while the investigation he prompted was still ongoing. normally you would preserve that evidence. so most -- by his own testimony, it's gone, right? and so we don't know exactly, you know, what did people tell him about susan rice's knowledge? those written notes are gone, and now all we have are christopher steele's recollection. his recollection was when he was directed to go to the state department, he was told that susan rice may have known and was apparently aware of his research project. that's a brand new piece of information, and it leads to a whole new area of inquiry for the congressional committees looking at this. lou: john solomon, thank you very much, as always. good to see you. john solomon, "just the news." up next, more on the promising results in the trials
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of the antiviral drug remdesivir. we'll be talking with dr. mark rupp from the university of nebraska medical center, one of those on the front lines of the efforts to stop the wuhan virus. also tonight how will president trump hold china accountable for unleashing the deadly wuhan virus on the world, lying about it throughout? we'll tell you what the american people say should happen. i take it up with congressman jim banks here. also we're coming right back with much, much more. stay with us. ♪ i love audible because it's a lot of stress relief, it's a great escape. so many great stories from amazing people... it makes me want to be better. it changes your perspective.
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♪ ♪ lou: there's rising desire among the american people to hold china accountable. in fact, to punish china for unleashing the wuhan virus and not warning anyone of its deadly spread. almost 60,000 americans have been killed by that virus. the economy has been damaged, it is too large a total to even add up at this point, but it will be in the trillions of dollars. a new poll finds 70% of american voters want with restrictions on trade with china. once this pandemic is over.
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the results of the poll come as the white house is debating how best, apparently, to bring supply chains back to the united states, how to limit u.s. investment in china and put up new barriers to chinese companies looking to expand here. white house trade adviser peter navarro reportly proposed an order to force the federal government to buy pharmaceuticals and medical supplies made in the united states. the president has not yet signed that order. we understand it has been drafted. there are business leaders and others close to the president, however, who are absolutely opposed to the president signing such an order. it is a difficult time, without question. congressman jim banks joins us now, he's a member of the house armed services commission and vet e irans affairs committees. he's introduced a resolution that condemns china for its actions and failure to warn the world of the deadly virus they
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unleashed upon the globe, and he is also demanding reparations from china. congressman, good to have you with us. let's start with this split in the white house, the apparent split. this is america first, this is buy american, hire american. why would there be a split? >> well, lou, your guess is as good as mind. this president was elected in 2016 because he pledged to be tough on china, and he's done that. he's the first president of my lifetime to hold china accountable. the american people aren't asking poll constitutions to hold china accountable, they're demanding it from members of congress to the president. i have no doubt the president will continue down the path of holding china accountable. i hope he will sign peter navarro's resolution to stop purchasing medical equipment from china. as you know, the dod and the v.a. are the two largest health care networks in america, and they purchase a vast amount of
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their medical supplies from china. we should immediately start with that and stop purchasing that equipment coming out of china and purchase american equipment instead. lou: the presidents who preceded president trump, what they did to this country -- and i have been writing about it for 20 years, the outsourcing of american jobs by the millions, the offshoring of production, leaving this country dependent can on supply chains 6,000 miles away. not only china, but india, southeast asia, europe as well, for crying out loud are. that kind of idiocy is typical of what this president has had to confront. it's almost inconceivable. you can see the absolute incredulous look on his face when he has to explain why a trade deficit is damaging to the u.s. economy, the american people, what it does to the savings rate and what it cuts away from our economic growth.
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and he has to do it about -- with supply lines. he's got the commerce, chamber of commerce in his office telling him what a grand idea it is to lift the tariffs, for crying out loud. he has more foreign agents representing china in his office trying to get boo his -- get into his office lobbying for china thanker i believe, individual corporations in this cup. it's that bad. >> you say it well, lou. the american people get it. hoosiers get it. my dad, who's retired from a factory here in fort wayne that made axels all of his life, he gets it. he knows that china is the biggest threat both economically and militarily to the united states of america that we face today, and that's why he voted for donald trump in 2016, why he's going to vote for him again. but holding china accountable, lou, is about, is about making sure that something like this
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never happens to america again. china has stolen our intellectual property, they're stole -- they've stolen our jobs and given us the third coronavirus, now, the third pandemic if you think about it, h1n1, sars, covid-19 all started in china and spread around the worlds. we're dealing with the effects of that, with our economy being so intertwined and entangled in china's economy. we're seeing the economic effects of that that we can never allow to happen again. that's why we must hold china accountable. there are a lot of ways we can do that, and i want to partner with this president as well as a growing number of my colleagues in the congress who are introducing pieces of legislation to hold china accountable. there's a lot more of that to come, and i believe president trump will continue to lead the way to hold china accountable. the first thing that he can do is sign that executive order that peter navarro has drafted and put on his desk.
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lou: yeah. at the president's word, of course. it's -- well, let's talk about the nih. we find out the nih has been sponsoring chinese scientists, giving them grants. this is just nuts. we find out that the cdc has been assisting the chinese government in the creation of their centers for disease control. we find out that we have got exchange programs of all sorts with the chinese that are, i mean, in addition to their theft of $600 billion in intellectual property, 50 -- well, 30 years of consecutive trade deficits with china,s this is just mind-boggling. and now we find out that the department of justice, they have allowed bail for charles lieber, the chairman of the chemistry department at harvard, who was
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taking, well, millions of dollars from the chinese, operating as effectively an agent for them, charged with recruiting students not for harvard, not for the united states, but for china, for crying out loud. and this is going on not just at harvard, but all around the country in some of our most prestigious institutions of higher learning. it's outrageous. >> lou, there's a lot more to learn about what's been going on at the national institute of health, and that's why congressman mike gallagher from wisconsin and i signed a letter today and cement it to dr. frances collins whose leadership i've questioned before for steering taxpayer dollars toward embryonic stem cell research. now we find out a lot of the grants have been steered toward chinese entities too. so we're demanding answers about that. we've recently learned that some of those taxpayer dollar grants have gone to this lab in wuhan, the virology lab. fortunately, president trump has
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halted those grants from going there in the future, but i want to know how many other grants have gone to chinese entities that are not serving the best interests of the united states of america, and that's why we signed the letter that we did. when we get answers about that, lou, we will let you and your listeners know. lou: i appreciate it, congressman. we're now following up on why some chinese nationals tried to get boo this country -- into this country carrying vials of viruses without explanation if or appropriate documentation over the past two years. they've been interdicted at various ports of entry. this is becoming quite a big and troubling pattern of conduct by the chinese, and much more needs to be understood. congressman jim banks,, thanks for being with us, we appreciate it. president trump demanding answers on china's cover-up and that of the world health organization as well. we take it up with asian affairs expert gordon chang right after
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♪ ♪ lou: the wuhan viruses has exposed the united states, the world's only superpower, to that of a dependent. we are dependent on foreign pharmaceutical drugs and medical supplies. the food and drug administration, in fact, found 72% of drug facilities to providing us those pharmaceuticals are outside the united states, 13% from china. china has a monopoly on our question network drugs. -- generic drugs. the commerce department found china to be the source of 95 percent of our imports of ibuprofen, 91 forth of hydrocortisone, 70% of acetaminophen and 70-75% of all our imports of penicillin.
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it also makes 80% of the entire -- china does -- the entire supply of our antibiotics. china is also making many of our vital medical devices including mri scanners. some of the top mri manufacturers make many of those machines in china including, are you ready? general electric, see men's, a german company, phillips and medtronic. well, joining us tonight to take all of this up is gordon chang, columnist, author, senior fellow at the gatestone institute. gordon, let's start with this dependency and just how severe is it. we don't have an easy, straightforward solution here for months to come, do we? >> no, we don't. and that's why it's important for president trump to sign the executive order getting pharmaceuticals purchased, you know, american-made pharmaceuticals purchased here. also we need to get our pharmaceutical companies out of china, get our supply chains out
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of china. we need to cut all of those links, lou. beijing has threatened to cut off those supply links during the coronavirus epidemic. this is maligned purpose on the part of beijing. lou: you know, it's, to me it is remark bl, the number of people who are surprised by the way china is conducting itself. it is clear that it is a malign actor when it doesn't warn the world of the origin and the spread of this deadly virus. er respectoff of whether they -- irrespective of whether they engineered it or not. i personally believe it's entirely possible that they engineered the wuhan virus. but what they did after that is absolutely unconscionable, inexcusable and every, every person on this planet should be outraged by the conduct of the communist party of china. >> yeah. for at least five and a half weeks, maybe six weeks beijing
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knew that the coronavirus was human-to-human transmissable. and not saying anything about it would have been dangerously irresponsible, but it was even worse, lou. because what they did during that period was try to convince the world that it was not human-to-human transmissable. and that meant health authority around the world were lulled into not taking precautions. but china also pressured countries to accept arrivals from china, to not impose travel restrictions, ask that's how this virus left china. so when you put those two things together, lou, it means that china either recklessly or maliciously -- and i'm voting maliciously -- made sure that this virus was spread around the world so that other countries would be sickened. lou: and right now the south china sea, yesterday the chinese warning because one of our ships, warships near vietnam they felt had infringed on their
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sovereignty. they're ratcheting up the tension in the region and purposely so, don't you think? >> yes. you know, one of the big untold stories is that since the middle of february china in both the south china sea and the east china sea has been stepping up the tempo of provocations. those provocations have been against taiwan, japan, the philippines, vietnam, indonesia and even malaysia which has traditionally been a friend of china. so we've got to be concerned that the chinese military is now out of its leash and might do something extremely belligerent starting, perhaps, history's next great conflict. lou: well, the good news is that president trump has dispatched more ships to the area to be certain that we have force security as well as a strong peps presence. strong presence. gordon chang, as always, good to talk with you. well, president trump has just wrapped up a meeting about roping the economy. we'll be talking with white
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something i think that most of us strongly suspected given the number of deaths that we have read about and learned about in news media. the pfizer foundation finding that nursing homes and veteran homes are becoming ground zero for new cases of the wuhan virus. they're now accounting for an extraordinary more than 50% of the total deaths from the virus at these facilities across six states; delaware, massachusetts, oregon, pennsylvania, colorado and utah. and nearly 70 people died in a veterans care facility in massachusetts. the state has taken over the facility. the superintendent is now on paid add a morive leave. -- administrative leave. by the way, there are about 160 veterans care facilities, veterans homes all around the country. our next guest has been conducting clinical trials of remdesivir from the national quarantine center in nebraska.
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he's one of the country's leading physicians in immunology, and we are delighted to have him with us tonight. dr. mark rupp, infectious diseases director at the university of nebraska medical center. doctor, good to see you. first, as you're conducting trials as well on this drug, what we learned today from gilead and their first trial, your reactions. >> so this was a very optimistic and favorable result. they came out from the nih on the study that was done that was very rigorously designed and conducted that really nicely shows that remdesivir, compared to placebo, results in some improved outcomes in our patients. is so this is exactly why we do these kinds of studies and this kind of work in order to really show that something works or it doesn't, whether it's safe or
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not. and what we saw in this trial was about an 8%, 11% down to 8% decrease in mortality. and then similarly, an improvement in clinical response, going from 15 days down to 11 days. so this is the first glimmer of hope that we have that a therapeutic agent can be given to patients with severe covid-19 and improves their outcome. lou: and all sorts of efforts are being made across the cup to come up with new -- the country to come up with new vaccines as well as therapeutics, antivirals like what gilead is working on, what you're working on. give us us a sense of what gives you the most hope that we would have a antiviral that was work ing, that is being given to patients just as soon as possible?
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>> so, again, this remdesivir trial that i just related is our first really proof, first real proof that a drug helps in the treatment of this disease. you know, there have been some other reports out on various other agent other agents in which there isn't a clear control group. this is exactly why we do these kinds of trials that are rigorously designed and corrupted to show -- constructed to show proof positive that something helps and it's safe. obviously, there's a lot of work being done on other agents, there's work being done to develop a vaccine that. 's probably still a good year off, if not more. so in the meantime, we need to find drugs that we can use to treat patients so that we can buy some time until we have that vaccine developed. again, this is the first one to be shown to be useful. we're very proud of the fact that the university of nebraska medical center was one of the lead are institutions on this study, and indeed, enrolled the
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first patient into the trial, one of those patients that was rescued off the diamond princess cruise ship. lou: and we thank you very much for all the work that you're doing to help all of us. we bush you, of course, god -- we wish you, of course, godspeed e and appreciate you taking the time to be with us, dr. mark rupp. thank you. >> you're welcome. lou: joining us now is white house press secretary caylee mcenaney, fresh from the oval office. i haven't had the chance to tell you in person, congratulations on your new post. >> thank you, lou. lou: so we're delighted if -- for you and for the president and for the country. give us a sense of how, how this is being received in the white house. we heard the president talk about a building block and anthony fauci talking about what a positive move it is as well as
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dr. mark rupp at the university of nebraska. and then we saw the market explode with optimism about what it means about getting america back to work. your reaction. >> yeah. you know, remdesivir is something that the president talked about as expressing optimism for. he's talked about it for weeks. it's so end couraging to have dr. fauci say that remdesivir has proven to be positive in controlled clinical trial with placebos. so to have that come out, to have this great news, it gives americans a lot of confidence that, you know, we've got ahold of this virus, we're looking towards reopening the country, we're doing so safely, and we have this great news today to really undergird all of that. lou: and we also had some bad news, but it wasn't as bad, if i may say, as many had expected early on. we are talking about the a slump of less than 5% in gdp.
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that's tremendously damaging to the economy but not nearly as bad as many had expected. we saw a big rally today on remdesivir and the hope that it will be an effective antiviral against the drug. the president is starting to, it seems to me, starting to see a window open here to get this economy in places in certain states open again. what is the mood there now on that, let me take your temperature on what the mood is is there about getting that done sooner. >> yeah. as far as addressing these gdp numbers, this president was faced with a choice, and he talked about how hard that choice was. when the experts came in and said you need to shut down the economy, it took him back. he was faced with the decision, and he made the right one. faced with the prospect of losing 2.2 million american lives, temporarily shutting down the economy, the answer was
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easy. but now we're at this place where because of this president, we're looking to reopen the economy. you have over 30 states who have put into place plans to do this. we're at a place where america can start to reopen, and american workers can look forward to getting back to work. hugh hugh and he -- lou: and he made the right decision giving governors a big say about what's going to happen this their states -- in their states, working with them constructively and positively. i want to get, also, a reaction from you on these polls and give us, if you will, a sense of the president's thinking as he looks at these new polls coming out. most americans absolutely support him in the pause on immigration into this cup during the biggest crisis, i believe, the country's faced since world war ii. also supporting him on wanting to limit trade with china.
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wanting to put restrictions on trade with china once this pandemic is resolved. your reactions to those very supportive poll results. >> yeah, you know, this president's been tough on china from the very beginning. he had the courage to take on china, and it ended with the phase one china deal which has been an extraordinary result for farmers, for the american worker. but beyond that you mentionedded those immigration numbers, and that's so interesting, lou. that poll that came out showed 49% of democrats support the pause on immigration. 7 in 10 independents, a majority in every single age demographic supports a pause on immigration at this time. it's really common sense at a time when you have a pandemic and americans are looking to go back to work and are unemployed, some of them, to put a pause on immigration to put the american worker first. that's exactly what this president has done. i'm not surprised that he has such support for that move. lou: and, of course, that goes to the poll results as well on
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china who 70% of those surveyed in the just the news/rasmussen poll want trade restrictions with china. the president says -- he expressed his displeasure today when with the chinese government. he seems to be getting a little tired of their nonsense. >> yeah, lou, you know, this president has said that there will be a time to assess everything that's gone on. he's displeased with the fact that china, he says, could have -- and he's right about this -- could have shared the information about this virus far sooner. the w.h.o. covered for them. they put american lives at risk, so he's very unhappy with that, rightfully so, and he's expressed that continually. lou: if i may say, they killed americans by not warning -- they killed people all over the world. this isn't something where there was sort of a delayed or somehow broken causal chain. this is a direct result of their refusal to warn the world when they knew what was going on in
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their country. if i -- i know that you're busy as you can be. we appreciate you taking the time to rush over and get in front of our cameras and, again, congratulations to you. great to see you -- >> thank you so much, lou. lou: thanks so much. up next, we're going to get kt mcfarlane's take on the possibility of full exoneration for general michael flynn. stay with us, we'll be back with her on what's next for general flynn, and stay with us, please. ♪
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♪ ♪ lou: earlier in the broadcast investigative journalist john solomon discussed newly-unsealed documents in the case of general michael flynn, documents that are sure to expose corrupt acts by the justice department and the fbi. more corrupt acts. the newly-released handwritten notes appear the reveal flynn was is set up for a perjury trap by senior members of the fbi. well, joining us now,kt mcfar lain, former deputy national security adviser to president trump. she's had her own experiences with an fbi hell bent on not
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justice, but in having their way on charges irrespective of whether they're supported by evidence or not. k, the mcfarlane, great to have you with us -- kt, great to have you with us. i want to start with all that we now know about general flynn, the acts of the fbi agents and the support those agents obviously had from their superiors in the fbi and the department of justice. give us your thoughts about what we stand -- where we stand by next monday. supposedly, he may be a man free of all of this incredibly burden, this incredible burden imposed by a corrupt fbi and justice department. >> you know, i was with general -- i was his deputy, and i was with him the night he left the white house for the last time, and as he walks out the door, he said, you know, i joined the military to fight the russians.
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and here he was at the center of this russia hoax. and for three years they went after him and called him everything but a traitor. in fact, they did call him a traitor, that he was suborning the interest of the united states. here was a decorated, honorable man and yet he was gone after. why did they go after him? for two reasons, lou. one obvious, they wanted to get -- use him to get to trump. that's what they tried to do with me. they try to blackmail you. they confiscated husband files and my -- his files and my files, and then they have the files, and they start asking you questions about did you meet with so and and so this day? if what did you say during that conversation? well, you don't know because you don't remember, and when you don't remember, they say, well, you should, therefore you're lying, and that's a criminal offense. that's what they did -- lou: they actually said >> they don't say it in those words, lou, they are much too clever to do that. but the implication you should
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have remembered this. this was really important. if you got dates wrong. if you think the phone call happened on tuesday night it was really wednesday morning they can pounce on that. you have to prove yourself innocent. they don't have to prove you guilty. they have to threaten you, continue to subpoena you, knowing that you're either going to crack under the pressure, you're going, in flynn's case they blackmailed him. we'll let you go, we'll let your son go if you plead guilty to a crime. i don't think they thought he committed in the first place. that is why they went after flynn. they went after everybody to get to trump. it wasn't about flynn. it wasn't even about me. we were collateral damage. they wanted to use us to either implicate trump or to implicate people who would then implicate trump. lou: as we look over this past almost 3 1/2 years now after this presidency, his campaign for the presidency, in every
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instance, every charge against him has amounted to absolutely nothing. >> nothing. lou: from the very beginning the fbi has committed corrupt act after corrupt act. they have been demonstrated to be the criminals and vicious, venal, ignore sis am -- ignoramuses i thought could be part of the fbi or the department of justice. they held up to the glare of the american public, we see them what they are. it is pathetic. it is really pathetic. >> yeah. one of the reasons they went after flynn, the deep state, department of justice, fbi, cia, they knew president trump and flynn all of us had plans to reorg is noise the very sprawling intelligence
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community. so the deep state had a preemptive strike against flynn to take him out. that is what they were doing with regard to him. and they didn't care who they trampled on. lou, they understand they can bankrupt you. my bills, my legal business, having done nothing wrong with hundreds and hundreds of thousands of dollars. for instance are millions of dollars. so they know that either they can blackmail you or they can bankrupt you. lou: that is, it is, this is, this is tragedy and it is, it is horrible because they have also waylaid a president who is still historic in my opinion, the most historic president in this country's history. >> oh, yeah. lou: what could have been were it not for the deep state, the radical dems and these politically corrupt agencies. kt mcfarland. great to see you. thank you for being with us. we appreciate it. >> thank you. lou: kt kt mcfarland, great american that is it for us
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tonight. tomorrow night our special guest is secretary of state mike pompeo. michael pillsbury, byron york among our guests tomorrow. please join us for all of that. thanks for being with us tonight. see you tomorrow. good night from sussex. elizabeth: stocks up, the dow, nasdaq, s&p finishing the green. the s&p on track for the best month since 1974. all this on more signs that gilead's remdesivir works to treat covid-19 patients. the fda plans to announce its emergency use and now pfizer could have a vaccine by the fall. the president out with a brand new push to fast track vaccines. tesla, surprised profit. facebook, earnings, miss, revenue beat though. the stock is spiking. microsoft, 15% sales jump. the federal reserve promising to keep rates low, even talking more fed help if the economy needs it. as u.s. gdp

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