it is treason. it is treason. lou: that's it for us tonight. thanks for being with us. good night from sussex. ♪ elizabeth: i'm elizabeth macdonald. welcome to "the evening edit. to the sudden, stunning about-face, the justice department dropping its criminal case against the president's former national security advisor michael flynn, in the wake of the botched fbi push to take him down by trying to get flynn to lie to the fbi among other things. now the justice department says the fbi's interview of flynn was an unjustified investigation. the justice department also says it cannot prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the lieutenant-general lied or that his lies were substantial. joining me now is white house official peter navarro in a fox

business exclusive. welcome back to the show, peter. thanks so much for joining us. your reaction to this development? >> how are you doing, liz? look, i want to see comey, page, strzok, brennan, clapper, basically investigated. this is great news for flynn. he was unjustly prosecuted. the bigger picture here, he is back on the campaign this, whole russia thing started way back then. it is just been 3 1/2 years where we had rogue agents and people in the deep state trying to take this president down and people like flynn. it was just so unjust what they did to him and hits son -- his son by the way. it will be a great day for american justice but it is about time. i'm not sure why it took so long. elizabeth: peter, let's listen to the president weighing in on this development. let's watch. >> he was an innocent man.

he is a great gentleman. he was targeted by the obama administration and he was targeted in order to try and take down a president and what they have done is a disgrace, and i hope a big price is going to be paid. elizabeth: peter he was targeted. >> amen to that. he was targeted. elizabeth: your reaction? >> he was targeted to get to president trump and the trump administration. these people in this town, do not want to see the kind of change for the american working class that president trump has brought despite all of this. you can take adam schiff and peter strzok and everybody in between and they ought to be investigated. they're the ones who need to be investigated and shame on them. because it is tremendous amount of time and energy that have been wasted by this. what i would like to do also, liz, today, because what i focus on or the president focuses on

looking forward how to create jobs and we actually had a great job creating day here at the white house. joe brogan, domestic policy council, it is his lace day here. he is going out with a flourish with an executive order that will create tens of thousands of jobs in our seafood industry and keep millions of americans more healthy and safe and what this executive order does that the president signed today, is something really dear to my heart. i don't know if you remember couple years ago i wrote a book called, death by china. there is film on youtube free. if you go to that film, there is a great little segment that starts let's take fish. all about how the chinese fishing industry sends us poison tilapia, all kinds of fish, using unfair trade practices to overwhelm our shrimpers and

other seafood industry. today the executive order will change all of that. it will unleash the commercial fisheries in a way that will be good for america. so bravo to joe grogan, to noah at the department of commerce which worked on this and especially bravo to president trump because these are the kinds of actions that this president takes every day that are going to create jobs even as we're dealing with this bigger, a much bigger issue of the china virus. elizabeth: yeah. you know, by the way we're going to dig deeper into the michael flynn story later on the show. stay with china for a second. kevin mccarthy, house minority leader, is launching the task force to probe what is going on in china. there is lots of fighting going on in washington right now, nancy pelosi, the house say they will come back to work next week, peter. >> come on back, nancy, there is work to do.

i just, i don't know what the democrats are doing. elizabeth: go ahead. >> liz, democrats used to be the party of the working class, working men and women of america and what are they doing now? they're sitting at home refusing to come to washington and pass the kind of aid and assistance that this country needs to move forward. and the beauty of president donald trump because he transformed the republican party into the party of the working class. we're here working. we have people ready to be on capitol hill to take the steps we need to continue what is going to be a long but important and ultimately very successful recovery. but what are they doing? i just, i don't get it. elizabeth: yeah. you know i want to stay on this because now, i don't know if you heard this information. you know the news about china potentially hoarding medical supplies before telling the world about its outbreak, also we reported that they tried to get vaccine, hang on a second, they tried to get remdesivir's

patent before telling the world. peter, there is worry that china may not share a vaccine, china may not share a vaccine if it gets one in order to use the vaccine as leverage against the rest of the world. in other words, china could reopen while other countries remain shut. china did not promise to the eu to make any of its successful vaccines available for the common public good. >> yeah. elizabeth: so do you think china could do that? remember the wuhan lab was studying this sars coronavirus too, starting in 2013. so you know, this is, this is a storyline that is still out there. the republicans want to look at what is going on china. the democrats maybe are going to block it that is the fear. what is your reaction? >> let me give you a quicktime line, microwave time line what the grand strategy of the chinese economist party right now. patient zero in mid-november, probably from the wuhan bio weapons lab.

get sick early december. get all sorts of people infected. china knows there is human-to-human transmission in early december but for six weeks they hide that from the world behind the shield of the world health organization. what did they do during that? according to their own chinese customs data they went from a net exporter of personal protective equipment to a huge net importer. they basically vacuumed up all the ppe, masks, gloves, goggles in the world. what did that mean, liz? when the people of milan, new york, detroit, new orleans needed that there wasn't enough for them. that's all on china. now what were they doing? middle of january they were coming here and signing a trade deal without telling us about the virus. and then they were also secretly trying to get a patent for this drug, remdesivir, which has significant therapeutic potential. what are they doing now? yeah, they want to maybe hoard all of the ppe, use it

basically, sell it to us at profiteering prices or use it as a diplomatic weapon to force countries in europe to do, to deny that the virus is from china. and, there is a paper that they did, a white paper, that everybody should read that goes back to right after the crisis, liz. the financial crisis. where it explains what china need to do after a crisis in order to consolidate power and take over the world. so this, this is what we're up against and obviously it is very difficult to believe anything that the chinese communist party tells us but we are in perilous times. in the meantime what's really important i think for us to focus on is getting the economy back on its feet. at the same time that we do our best to protect the men and women at the front lines, the health care workers, as well as

everybody else in america. that is what i'm focused on. i'm focused on supply chain issues. i'm focused on helping this president create jobs for america. elizabeth: hey, peter, congratulations on the executive order about the seafood industry. i've been personally tracking that story. it is an interesting one. it is interesting how it will create jobs here in the u.s. you know the seafood industry in the reporting there, they have always been complaining about the poor quality of seafood coming into this country out of china. it is an interesting development, peter. final word before we go? >> personal story. back when i was a peace corps volunteer in southeast asia, i built fish ponds, big fish ponds for villages so we could feed them with locally-grown till lawn -- tilapia. this is very near and dear to my heart. this was important for nutrition. i saw when joe grogan had done

this, i took particular interest in it. i was well aware that the fish from china tend to be poisonous. we'll crack down. this had special meaning for me. i'm so glad president trump signed that today, literally, liz, tens of thousands of new jobs for our commercial industry. we have these exclusive economic zones, 200 yards, 200 miles offshore. very fertile. we need to basically harvest those better than we are doing. it is going to be great. elizabeth: interesting. all right, peter, well we sure cover all the bases with you. peter, come back on soon. >> take care. elizabeth: same here. we'll dig deeper into the flynn bombshell that justice department reversing, dropping the case against peter flynn with former congressional investigator sam dewey. now up next, the story of the dallas hair salon owner. she was locked up. now she is set free after she defied rules forcing her to shut

down her business. she said she needed to feed her family. she is now released prison. a fuming texas governor says, stop jailing ordinary people desperately trying to work, to help out their families and their workers families. texas attorney general ken paxton, he wanted this move. he applauds it. he is our next guest. stay there. this is decision tech. find a stock based on your interests or what's trending. get real-time insights in your customized view of the market. it's smarter trading technology for smarter trading decisions. fidelity. ♪ ♪

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♪. >> thank all of you who i just barely met, and now you are all of my friend. you mean so much to me. this would have been nothing without you. thank you so, so, much. elizabeth: major development in the case of detention nationwide. shelley luther, the symbol of the reopen movement, to the dallas salon owner. shelley luther was locked up for defying rules. just hours ago shelley luther has been released from jail. bring in texas attorney general ken paxton. attorney general, your reaction. you along with the governor were to push for this. that was tearful shelley saying thank you to her supporters. she was overcome with emotion. profound moment for shelley

luther. your reaction? >> i couldn't be more excited. i just got off the phone with her a few minutes ago. i was so excited for her. i congratulate her stepping up, really being the voice for a reasoned approach here. around i told her i thought because of what she did, we wouldn't see anymore imprisonments in texas and people would be free to do what they thought was right. elizabeth: luther's release by the state supreme court shortly after governor greg abbott declared this out of control punishment. he said it has to stop. throwing texans in jail who had their businesses shut through no fault of their own is quote, nonsensical. i will not allow it to happen. your reaction there? >> i could not agree more. we've been saying ever since it occurred. we've been trying to shine the light of day on this issue. in fact this woman is trying to take care of her family, through no fault of her own, it was not her fault this virus occurred, she obeyed the order for long

period of time. she needed to go to work to take care of her family. for that she goes to jail? it just doesn't make sense. elizabeth: you called it excessive and a shameful abuse by a judge in a county that actually has released hardened criminals for fear of contracting covid-19, but now jailing a mother for operating a hair salon to feed her family. i want to take a listen, by the way thousands of criminals, including violent criminals have been released from jails and prisons across the country. watch judge eric moyer, ask shelley luther before he sent her to jail if she was disrespectful to him, if she was wrong and selfish. you will hear her say feeding my children is not selfish. watch this. >> i have to disagree with you sir when you say i'm selfish because feeding my kids is not selfish. i -- going hungry because they would rather feed their kids. so sir if you think the law is

more important than kids being fed, please go ahead with your decision but i'm not going to shut the salon. elizabeth: do judges government officials order citizens to apologize to them saying you're disrespectful you're trying to earn a living? didn't this happen at same time governor of texas said we'll open hair salons? >> they were very close in time. i think very much this judge took this personally and reacted out of personal feelings of maybe frustration, not liking what she said. that is how she ended up in jail. the irony is no tomorrow, anybody can cut hair and do it without any type of punishment from the state. so this was an excessive, nobody, is really debating that now, it was an excessive punishment for somebody merely wanted to take care of her family. elizabeth: does she have a case for wrongful prosecution? >> you know what?

oddly enough it wasn't really the it wasn't the state that came after her. it was the city that took her to court, it was really the judge. this was an individual judge decision who held her in contempt. so that contempt order is what put her in prison. it wasn't the state doing this. it wasn't even the city that put her in prison. this individual judge. so it will be interesting to see what happens after this. i certainly think it was a wrong, it was atrocity in the state of texas. elizabeth: other thing happening now, i.c.e., border agency say states ordered prisons to release nearly 200 illegal aliens into the u.s., about 171 of them or so have already been convicted or accused of crimes against americans including homicide, assault with a deadly weapon, rape, juvenile sex offenses and child cruelty this is happening in los angeles, california, boston, massachusetts, new york city, philadelphia. the aclu is suing to release

thousands of accused and convicted criminals in state prisons nationwide. your quick take on this story? >> unfortunately that is happening in texas, the very county your talking about harris county, houston, trying to release convicted felons, people accused of horrific crimes, murder, rape. we're in the process of fighting that, trying to keep people in prison who v been convicted or up for potential trial on very serious charges this is issue not in los angeles or new york. we're dealing with it in texas including the very county that just put somebody who cut hair, by the way, this may be the first time in american history that someone has been put in prison for voluntarily cutting somebody's hair. elizabeth: ken paxton, come back soon. great to see you, attorney general. >> have a great day. elizabeth: up next, fox news contributor byron york on the new hot shutdown debate in europe. a new study out of great britain of the pandemic shutdown orders

in 30 european countries found the stay-at-home orders and shutting down non-essential businesses has little to no effect stopping the pandemic on the european continent. instead what does work is stopping mass gatherings closing schools and common sense instead of mass shutdowns. this hot debate next. ♪. can my side be firm?

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♪. elizabeth: welcome back. news out of great britain a university looked at shutdown policies in 30 european countries. stay-at-home orders, shutting down non-essential businesses had little to controlling the epidemic. instead mass banning and closing schools were effect tim. fox news contributor, byron york, study what works and what doesn't. your reaction? >> this is really the key issue for the reopening debate here in the united states because that sort of closed non-essential businesses shutdown policy has been the policy in many, many states, many, many cities, the

question what to do now. was that the most effective thing, or were the common sense measures that people adopted like washing their hands like crazy, wearing masks, cleaning surfaces in their home, all that sort of stuff, were those the most effective things to do? and what you're seeing among the officials who want to carefully restart businesses in their start is they're encouraging people, everybody, to keep up with that. keep washing your hands, wear a mask and also are not calling for the return of these mass gatherings, conventions, concerts, sports events, where a lot of people cheek by jowl in a big crowd, just not calling for that for a while. elizabeth: 43 states will be partially or mostly opened by next week. we know that the south and the midwest is now getting hit hard. we know already that people are infectious and are asymptomatic for two weeks.

i think that the news is out there, you know, about, what the impact of, you know, of the virus, not only that, but how the stages of infection are. do you think that you know, we'll look back at this time and see that, you know, shutting down of the entire economy was the wrong thing to do? >> well, the question, the answer to that will depend on how fast the economy does recover. now we're talking what, 33 million who applied for unemployment. just astonishing numbers. we've gotten a sense from business, you know, at the very, very beginning of this, the first couple weeks i think a lot of people thought there was going to be a v-shaped recession, in other words, economy went down quickly but it came right back up very quickly and we would be right back where we were and i think a lot of people think not everybody who lost their jobs in this crisis will get another job quickly. so how quickly the economy

recovers is really the answer to that question. elizabeth: you know, as you just said, tens of millions are out of work. we're looking at what the policy discussions are in washington. listen to alexandria ocasio-cortez say that the way to fix the economy is for a national nationwide strike for all workers to walk out on strike. watch this. >> you know there is a lot of people saying you know, call for general strike, call for a general strike. the majority of americans don't know what a general strike is. so our responsibility is to talk about it, expand consciousness about it, and actually create the conditions in which working people can generate and really exercise their own power. elizabeth: so she is talking about a national strike, even though more than 33 million people are, that is a friday jobs report tomorrow, 33 million

people plus, we may see that they're out of work tomorrow. that is the scope of it. she wants a national strike, your reaction? >> a general strike for what? sounds like a european communist thing but you know what happens is when you have a big crisis you will find people with preexisting agendas who say, well this crisis proves that we should do what i have wanted to do all along, so there for we should have universal health care, a universal basic income or the virus proves whatever my policies existed beforehand are the right thing to do, i think that is what you're seeing not only with representative alexandria ocasio-cortez but with lots of other people as well. elizabeth: watch, as the house comes back to work next week. they have been on recess during a pandemic. nancy pelosi is now talking about a universal base being income. byron york. we appreciate it.

sorry we ran out of time. >> okay. >> we know the story of what accusations have been against the administration with the covid-19 outbreak. wait until we show you what press secretary kayleigh mcenany has asked of the left-leaning mainstream mediaone by one. she is asking them to want to apologize for the outbreak themselves? it will make your head spin. the question is, democrats want to investigate the administration on the covid-19 outbreak. the question is, should they investigate themselves because what were democrats doing earlier in the year? did they do anything? was their hair on fire about the pandemic? conservative commentator kristin tate weighs in next. stay there. it's best we stay apart for a bit,

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handling of the pandemic. watch white house press secretary kayleigh mcenany ask the media if they want to apologize for playing down the outbreak. watch this. >> i guess i would turn the question back on the media and ask similar questions, does vox want to take back they proclaimed the coronavirus would not be a deadly pandemic? does "the washington post" want to take back they told americans to get a grip, the flu is bigger than the coronavirus? did "the washington post" likewise want to take back our brains are causing us to exaggerate the threats of the coronavirus? does "the new york times" want to take back that, fear of the virus may be spreading faster than the virus itself? does fpl want to take back the flu was. much bigger than the coronavirus? finally "the washington post," do they want to take back the government should not respond aggrly to the coronavirus. i hope you have some answers in a few days. elizabeth: welcome author and conservative commentator kristin

tate. great to have you on. your reaction to that? >> donald trump is a fighter and i am glad he has a press secretary is a fighter will call out the media for their playing grant bias. the media has gleefully used this pandemic to criticize donald trump. what they're saying now is that donald trump downplayed the threat of the virus in january and february but if you actually look at a timeline of the facts, it is weird that this administration's response has actually been quite robust. on january 9th, before china reported any deaths, trump's cdc and fda were working on diagnostic tests and a vaccine as china continued to lie. later that month, trump ramped up travel bans. in february he requested billions of dollars from congress to respond to the viral outbreak. it wasn't until march that italy gave us a real window how serious this was. within weeks of that, nearly the entire u.s. was on lockdown.

if you want to talk about downplaying the threat we can look at the media and at many democrats as well. bill de blasio and nancy pelosi, they were saying in january and february that everyone should go out and mingle with each other. joe biden said as late as march that trump's travel restrictions were xenophobic. calely is great. she is doing a fantastic job. it is time that the media gets called out. elizabeth: republicans are saying, democrats want to investigate the trump administration, the democrats should investigate themselves instead because what were they doing earlier in the year to fight the pandemic? now this, the media is now attacking each other. cnn's brian stelter and oliver darcy went after abc world news tonight anchor david muir. oliver darcy said, david muir misquoted opportunity to prosecute trump on coronavirus

death tolls and? prosecute? isn't journalism about getting the facts and the truth? what is the use of the word prosecute here? >> it should be about the facts and the truth but at this point we all know cnn's actual agenda has nothing to do with getting facts to the american people. it is all about making donald trump look bad but you know what? they have become so flagrant in their partisanship nobody takes them seriously anymore. they are playing to the far left-wingers at this point and their audience is dwindling because of it. this is very sad, but at least at this point i think most people realize what's going on with cnn and frankly some of these other networks like msnbc as well. they have a strong political agenda that trump's anything having to do with real journalism or the truth. elizabeth: you know what is going to happen next is, the media is going to push what they're going to sound like plausibly true stories that the

pandemic is now breaking out in states across the country because, they're going to say there is a growth in cases but that is because of more testing going on. we don't know if individuals are already asymptomatic, have antibodies. thinking is it already has been here since november. so you will see that is the next media shoe to drop when driving that is the increase in testing showing that there will be naturally more cases out there. i want to get to this. the democrats are now pushing to call in the white house health experts on the coronavirus task force to testify. nancy pelosi look at this, now, criticizing dr. fauci. watch this. >> dr. fauci, i would hope that dr. fauci would say things in public that we wouldn't need him to be subpoenaed to say about how he sees things going. i feel sad for him and anybody who has to stand in that, task force and practically validate what is coming out of the

president's mouth except for an occasional clarification. elizabeth: you know, the washington, d.c., poisonous fratricide, chris inch, it isn't playing anymore. america is tired. it is exhausted. it is suffering through a pandemic and still we get this poisonous rhetoric, this fratricide combing out of the democrats using any opportunity to attack. i mean you remember the days of tip o'neill and ronald reagan, they worked together. i think that america is going to look at this say, you know what we're done? we're done with the same old, same old of washington. the status quo of constantly throwing brick backs and ankle biting isn't going to play anymore. your final word? >> people are so sick of the partisanship but another example of nancy pelosi using this pandemic to try and hurt this administration, instead of actually working for the american people, the left never

lets a crisis to go to waste. joe biden said this pandemic provides an opportunity to transform other country with more government but the left and democrats have no idea how to get this country back on its feet. they seem to want businesses to stay shut down forever and people to stay locked in their homes forever with the threat of arrest. people are going hungry. they can't put food on the table for their families. 40% of americans have less than $1000 in savings. 70% have no savings. we need people to go back to work if they want to in a safe way. we need america to get back on its feet. unfortunately, there are a lot of people in politics and frankly in the media who don't seem to have an interest in that. elizabeth: yeah. you know what? the focus is, there are ways to do it. europe is showing how to reopen safely with common sense measures. it is happening there. kristin, thank you so much for your time. great to see you. >> thanks, liz. enjoyed being on. elizabeth: next up, next up,

what happened in venezuela? secretary of state mike pompeo is saying absolutely the u.s. had nothing to do with it and that the u.s. will quote, use every tool available to secure the release of two former american special forces soldiers now held in venezuela, captured after a botched coup attempt to overthrow the communist dictator there. we've got retired army major general robert scales on this developing story. stay right there. ♪. ing to be paying for this for a long time. they will, but with accident forgiveness allstate won't raise your rates just because of an accident, even if it's your fault. cut! sonny. was that good? line! the desert never lies. isn't that what i said? no you were talking about allstate and insurance. i just... when i... let's try again. everybody back to one. accident forgiveness from allstate. click or call for a quote today.

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♪. >> there was no u.s. government direct involvement in this operation. we had been involved it would have gone differently. if these in fact are americans there, we can figure out a path forward we want to get every american back. if the maduro regime decides to hold them, we'll use every tool available to try to get them back. that is our responsibility to do

so. elizabeth: that is secretary of state mike pompeo on two former american soldiers taken into custody after a botched attempt to try to over throw venezuela communist dictator nicolas maduro. we have retired u.s. major general robert scales. great to have you back on. your reaction to this story? >> oh, my god, if the strategic consequences of operation hadn't been so tragic this would have been a comedy worthy of, i don't know of a hollywood movie, like "dumb and dumber" ii. the sad part maduro used idiotic execution into venezuela as means to his own end. this will serve, particularly in latin america to extend control over venezuela people. liz, as a retired soldier what really hurts me, what hurts me, what this does to the impression of american people have of the backbone of the american military. that is our non-commissioned officers, our sergeants and our

chiefs. the fact that these two morons tried to pull off this operation only impunes the integrity of what at least among all the nations of the world is the reason we win wars, that is because of our ncos. elizabeth: do we really think the u.s. signed off own a you know, attempted coup using pontoons? >> oh, give me a break. let's do the math. we got two americans and 60 untrained venezuelan peasants who want to take on maduro, his cuban backers and 120,000 venezuelan regulars. i mean, come on, liz, does that make any sense? this is completely insane. these two morons have done enormous damage to the american reputation in latin america. elizabeth: yeah. general jack keane would agree with you. he was on with us last night talking about how naive this operation was. let's take a listen.

>> this thing was destined to fail from the beginning. it was overly ambitious, it is ill-conceived. the plan is naive. it underestimates the scale of difficulty and it underrates, underestimates the capacity of the venezuelan army which policed these folks up rather quickly. some actually within less than 24 hours of them stepping on venezuelan soil. so yeah, this, this is, extraordinary how poorly done this was in planning and execution. elizabeth: your reaction, general? >> i think my good friend jack keane sort of understated the consequences of this. i can't express in the strongest terms how, i mean this doesn't on a deserve to be called an operation. this is just a skit on "saturday night live" for pete's sake. these two retired ncos are just bumbling idiots. as i said earlier, this would

make a great sequel to "dumb and dumber." but the problem is, liz, is that, there are certain elements in latin america and latch on this to blame the american government for this which is completely absurd. >> major general robert scales, i hear you. thanks so much for joining us. come back soon. good to have you on. thanks for serving our country. >> thank you, liz. elizabeth: next we're digging deeper into today's victory for general michael flynn. his lawyer sidney powell is trumpeting the victory here as the justice department dropped the case against the president's former national security advisor to take out flynn to lie to the fbi in order to get to president trump. former investigator sam dewey what this means and for democrats like adam schiff. the story is next.

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♪. >> it's treason. so i'm very happy for general flynn.

he was a, a great warrior and he still is a great warrior. now in my book he is even a greater warrior. what happened to him should never happen again. elizabeth: that was president trump on the stunning move today by the justice department dropping its criminal case against former trump national security advisor lieutenant-general michael flynn after a nearly three-year investigation, admitting flynn's interview by the fbi was quote, untethered to and unjustified by the fbi's counterintelligence investigation into mr. flynn. let's welcome attorney and former congressional investigator sam dewey. sam, it is great to have you on. the justice department also said that the fbi's interview was quote, conducted without any legitimate investigative basis because, by that time the fbi had decided, by the time of the interview, flynn was not going to be useful for the trump russia rush probe. your take on this? >> this is extraordinary

development to see the department of justice publicly admit this occurred and to move to dismiss the indictment as extraordinary and to the point you just made i think what makes it so extraordinary the department of justice is political institution in one sense but not political in the other and the check against the politics when it comes to prosecution is the procedures, proper predication, proper notification and it seems apparent that a select group of people deliberately circumvented those controls. that is extraordinarily concerning. elizabeth: yeah, the notes recently disclosed notes from the fbi said, what is the gameplan here? we're going to get flynn to lie to an fbi agent or admit to violating the federal logan act which nobody has been prosecuted on? we have got adam schiff, house intelligence transcripts of the closed-door interviews, maybe 53 or more witnesses saying they

saw no conspiracy, no collusion. and now we've got adam schiff still saying we have direct evidence of collusion. john kennedy, senator john kennedy says of adam schiff's comments this is third world country stuff. your reaction to that? >> i mean i think it is concerning that statements were made publicly about transcripts that were private by rule and turns out the transcripts don't support those statements. that is a very concerning development to have those in authority who have the information say one thing and then it to turn out what they said was inconsistent. elizabeth: you know, then you have the deputy attorney general rod rosenstein scope memo for the mueller probe. so even after the fbi said we're going to drop the case against flynn, we don't have derogatory information useful in the trump russia probe, that was

january 2017. by august 2017, we still have rod rosenstein's memo saying robert mueller's team can still investigate michael flynn for violating the law, for crimes because he had discussions with the russian ambassador. now we've got indication that president obama, then president obama was more directly involved in this than previously indicated. your reaction? >> well i think the reference to the special counsel is very interesting for the timeline reason you pointed out. why would it be there given the investigation being closed and on the other point i think, we'll have to wait and see what comes out but certainly there is an indication in the evidence that the white house was involved in some way and it will be very interesting, i think very important to see what the involvement was. elizabeth: yeah. to see how deep president obama was involved in this.

that is next part of the, the shoe to drop here. i want you to listen to republican jim jordan say this to us last night. if they could do this to people like michael flynn, they can do it to any of us. watch this. >> if they can do it to a three-star general, if they can do this to the president of the united states, imagine what they can to do to you and me? imagine what they do to the 750,000 people i get the privilege represent negotiate fourth district of ohio and any of the 330 million who live in this great country. imagine what they can do. that is why this is so fundamental why we have -- why we sent the letter, why we want the documents. elizabeth: sam, your quick reaction? >> i mean i think he is absolutely right. we need to see the documents. this just shouldn't have happened. elizabeth: all right. sam dewey, great to have you on. sorry we ran out of time, my friend. come back soon. >> thank you. elizabeth: that is it for us. thanks for watching.

watch us tomorrow night as we stay on the developing story of the flynn case and much, much more. thanks for joining us. have a good evening. ♪. "lou dobbs tonight" starts now. ♪ lou: good evening, everybody. breaking developments in the case against general michael flynn. the justice department decided to drop the criminal case against the former trump national security adviser. the stunning reversal of one of the so-called signature cases of robert mueller's special counsel team dealing yet another blow to the deep state, the radical dems and their attempts to overthrow president trump. the decision to abandon the case comes at the recommendation of u.s. attorney for the eastern district of missouri jeff jensen who was appointmented in february -- appointed in february, chosen by attorney general william barr to runi