lou: that's it for us tonight. thanks for being with us. senator rand paul and kt mcfarland among our guests tomorrow. we hope you will for that. thanks for being with us tonight. good night from sussex. ♪. elizabeth: dr. anthony fauci testifying before the senate today warning about dr. fauci testified before the senate today warning about covid-19 coming back in the fall if the u.s. does not prepare. dr. fauci sang in no way is his relationship with president trump confrontational, nor has it other ben. we have that story. senator rand paul really fixing it up with dr. fauci. getting into it. we have the sound there. another big question. republicans now increasingly ask what do democrats obama and biden know about the controversies in the trump russia probe and what did they greenlight? what did they know about the fbi talking about a trap for michael

flynn and more. plus, explosive new details about officials demanding the unmasking of american names in intelligence documents, including lieutenant general flynn and more. the acting director of national intelligence has a list and he's naming names. also tonight, did president obamaa greenlight who exactly leakeden the names of these american citizens to the media? now even more questions. did this unmasking of regular american citizens names start earlier than 2017? did the obama administration access the nsa's massive database going back to 2015 to maybe get information on opposition candidates? we at the evening edit our covering what no one else in the media does. we are digging into the footnotes, the government documents, finding out what they show. colossal abuse of power. we have that story. plus, how the clinton campaign

and british ex-wife was talking to the media, the washington post, the new york times, cnn peabout his dossier that did hep pay for the 2016 campaign. did the clinton campaign know the problems? russian disinformation. okay. we have every angle of this and more covered tonight with senator chuck grassley, langford, tim jordan and doug burns. thank you so much for joining us "the evening edit" starts right now. ♪ okay. you are watching the foxbusiness network. dr. fauci testifying for the senate warning if the u.s. gets oover the check point and the administration guidelines, it risks the danger of multiple outbreaks throughout the country. look at this.

senator rand paul really mixing it up. a d fiery exchange with dr. fau. watch this. >> as much as i respect you, dr. fauci, i don't think you're the in hall. i don't think you're the one person i d get to make the decision. there will not be a surgeon then we can safely open the economy. the facts will bear this out. if we keep kids out of school for another year, the poor and underprivileged kids i don't have avi parent that is able to teach theme at home will not learn for a full year. i think we have to look at the swedish model and look at getting our kids back to school. i think it's a huge mistake if we don't open up the schools in the fall. ♪ melissa: let's welcome back senator chuck grassley in a foxbusiness exclusive. thank you so much for joining us again. you are on the task force on reopening america. your reaction to dr. fauci testimony today and what senator rand paul just said. >> i think it is okay if people urge caution, but i tend to agree with senator paul. i just heard him on your program.

i think that we cannot shut down the economy forever. in fact, if we are going to maintain a healthy, preventive health system, as well as getting people well, we have to have a strong economy. we cannot go on borrowing $2 trillion like we have now. we have to get america back to work. when you pay people not to work, obviously, what is going to be the result? you will get less work. what we need to expand this economy is get people back to work. without an expanding economy, we will have a weaker health system melissa: senator, moving on to senate majority leader mitch mcconnell yesterday, saying to former president obama, stick with the june edition criticizing the, you know, the next successive administration. president obama said the trumps administration response to the coronavirus pandemic was "a

chaotic disaster." senator said it was classless. he should have kept his mouth shut. your reaction to that. >> the tradition is in the united states and look at george w. bush as just one example. he has not criticized obama who took over after him. he has not criticized trump, that i can remember. that is a pretty good lesson to learn for obama and i think he should be very careful. if he wants to comment, it ought to be in a way where it adds to the debate, not detract. he ought to be speaking in a way that helps a president be a better president, not to always find fault. >> staying on that, and the debate is, how do you safely reopen and work with an economy under a pandemic?

economists are warning about a w shaped recovery and that covid cases, you know, coming back by the fall. i mean, the lockdown really does hurt the poor. about a 30% unemployment rate for the lower 20% an one in 10 for the percentile. your reaction to that. ten states have about 70% of the cases in the deaths. this really does hurt the poor. >> go back to february. fifty year record of low unemployment. record employment. record wages for hispanics and african-americans. lowest unemployment and 50 years. people m making a living on ther own. not only helps the economy, it helps them and some put them in a position to advance themselves up the ladder.

we oughtnc to encourage that sot of thing. and, so, getting the country back to work as part of the way of helping people to get out of poverty. because if you are on government programs, you know what you are guaranteed, a life of poverty. and if you want to get people out of poverty, the world of work is the way to get them out of poverty and work their way up. i think that that is something that has made america and we ought to continue that. >> you have been saying do it safely. dr. fauci talking about a vaccine possible by the end of the year. drug treatments are coming in. you i have been warning, yes, let's reopen, but do it safely. wewe hear you on that. let's move on to the mushrooming scandal involving the botched fbi probe of michael flynn. a perjury trap there. senator, what was the key question you have here for

president obama and joe biden? >> well, it goes back to, i think, january 5, 2017, meeting while they were still president and vicees president. they met and received information on the investigations of land and things of that nature. for the first time now in the last couple weeks we have had enough information that we know of their involvement. it was suspicious, a suspicion before, but now it is a fact feared we want to know more about that meeting. i asked on the floor the senate last night, what did they know and when did they know it? i don't think we will get them to tell us, but we need all the information that we can get. today, i am setting a letter to ambassador grenell, acting director and to bar asking for at least three documents and mae

never had publicly conversation between michael flynn and the russian ambassador. we have never seen the yates e-mail that she wrote at the tail end of that administration. we, also, need to know now what we didno not know before that we know who was on mask and that needs to be made public. if my name was on mask, and i don't believe it was, but if it was, i should know that. what would be wrong with the country known to, for political purposes or other purposes, that somebody at the white house was using their power to get names that should not be known to follow up on them. a o secret way that those individuals did not know about.

now we have the chance to bring transparency to that and with transparency comes accountability. melissa: you know, senator, we've been going through the government documents and the judges have noted that their improper searches in the nsa metadata surveillance database going back to 2015, that raises the possibility, again, just a question, whether or not under the obama administration they were doing searches on the names, may be of all 17 republican candidates, not just president trump. your final word? >> probably was and also doing it to follow michael flynn. they knew he was a threat to the intelligence community because he knew where the bodies were buried and if he was in a position of power, there might be a lot of people threatens. that even goes back to the obama

administration, but for sure, when he was national security advisor for president trump emma he was a real threat. that is why they continue to spy on him. melissa: all right. we love having you on the shell. thank yous so much for your insight and perspective. come back soon, senator. >> i'd be glad to come back. thank you. melissa: news that he is asking the ag for more information on what is going on with unmasking. we will talk about it with heritage foundation next. stay right there. ♪ this is decision tech. find a stock based on your interests or what's trending. get real-time insights in your customized view of the market. it's smarter trading technology for smarter trading decisions. fidelity.

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♪ melissa: okay. remember we have been reporting to you over the last few years how thera obama administration t the 11th hour before obama left office loosened the rules on revealing the redacted names of american citizens in intelligence reports. this is called unmasking. acting director of national intelligence richard grenell has reportedly declassified given the doj a list of obama administration officials involved in an improperly unmasking the names of regular american citizens on the trump campaign. it includes lieutenant general michael flynn.

the question now is did obama greenlight this? who leaked the names of the media and more. let's welcome hans from the heritage foundation. your take on this story. >> this is a very important move. we need to know who did the targeting in the obama administration and whota was targeted, for this simple reason look, the foreign intelligence intercepts that are engaged and caught by our intelligence agency like the nsa, what they are doing is intercepting phone calls an other communications of foreign government officials and foreign intelligence agencies. it is not intended to be used against americans. americans are protected by the bill of rights, they are protected by both the bill of rights and statutes that require warrants before you engage in electronic surveillance of

americans and if these unmasking occurred because americans were inadvertently caught in these electronic in intelligence intercepts, if that unmasking was occurring not as a way of countering espionage against the united states, but for partisan political purposes, that is, frankly, an outrageous abuse of the powers granted to our intelligenceel agencies. melissa: all right. according to the justice department in inspector general, the obama administration fbi new democrats funded the steel dossier, that file had russian disinformation andh: it, that te cia was telling the fbi faces internet rumor, by january 2017 the fbi did not have the goods in its russia drop rope in obama officials see the conversations with the russia ambassador and they get it revealed, not

dropped out, not redacted is that your take on part of what happened. >> it is. what is so unfair here in this entire episode was that, you know, this leaking was done to make it look like michael flynn was doing w something wrong. he was incoming national security advisor. part of his job and duty was to talk to foreign officials, such r.as a russian ambassador. there was nothing illegal about that call. it was perfectly legitimate. that is one of the reasons the justice department has moved to dismiss the case because the fbi had no legitimate reason to even be investigating michael flynn. melissa: you know, so, either take out the words trump, obama, take out the words democrat, republican, if you just look at the bare bone facts of what happened, we are now seeing court judges in documents saying that the fbi under the obama in one instance,

85% of their searches, nsa databases, were improper. we are finding, you know, the searches through the nsa databases, this is a metadata surveillance program, may have started at 2015. they have going on even sooner than that. you know, this feels to me and our team like tip of the iceberg stuff, hans. why was the obama administration going into nsa databases searching for information in that surveillance program? >> well, look, if that is correct and michael flynn is just the tip of the iceberg, then it really looks as if the obama administration was abusing its power to use our intelligence services for domestic political reasons instead of what they are supposed to be used for, which, as i said, guarding against foreign espionage and foreign terrorism. everyone who was involved in

doing this within the obama administration has to be held to account. that means transparency, disclosure and, frankly, investigation by the justice department to see what possible federal statutes were violated by this. so people can be prosecuted for engaging in this kind of behavior. melissa: yes. political opposition surveillance. sssenator grassley did send a letter. he just told us the news moments ago. hehe sent a letter to ag bar and dni richard grenell wanting more information about unmasking. the original phone call details between michael flynn and the russian ambassador. so, you know, the story is only beginning final word. >> it is only beginning. the main thing is, people have to be held accountable for abusing their power while in office.

melissa: okay, hans. great to see you. come back soon. >> thank you. melissa: next. president obama may have been more involved in the trump russia probe than people realize. we wille talk with christopher bedford aboutal just how far it possibly went. that story f next. ♪re give me your hand! i can save you... lots of money with liberty mutual! we customize your car insurance so you only pay for what you need! only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪

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♪ melissa: quote the president asked jim call me to inform me if anything changes in the nextw weeks that should affect how we share classified information with the incoming team". comey said he would. what exactly does that mean? here is what it means. the president of the united states turned to the head of the fbi, the most powerful law enforcement official in america and said, continue to secretly investigate my geopolitical rival so i can act against him. comey's response, yes, sir. melissa: that was last night talking about new document showing president obama with more involvement in the trump russia probe anyone realize. asking jim call me to keep him apprised, keep obama apprised of the investigation. let's take this to the federalist. senior editor christopher

bedford. chris, your reaction. "in any normal. in american history, this exchange would define obama forever. obama would be known as the disgraced former president who used federal law enforcement to hurt his political enemies". your reaction to this story. >> media that is very much on the side of president barack obama feared richard nixon is often the president that we think of when we talk about doing anything he could to talk about them. lyndon b. johnson paved the way for that. a democrat who put spies in the opponents campaign offices and would have memos leaked on them. you don't really care about that in history. you certainly won't hear about it with barack obama either. the main reason is for that is exactly the same. the media has on their side. >> what we are seeing in the

fifo court documents in 2017- 2018 is tens of thousands of improper searches in those two years and then you see it in the oval office meetings, susan rice's e-mails memorializing what tucker carlson just spoke about, also that e-mail about the oval office meeting on january 5, 2017, between nobody obama, biden, comey, james clapper. it reads "president obama said he wants to be sure that as we engage with the incoming team, meaning the trump transition team, we are mindful to ascertain if there is any reason that we cannot share information fully as it relates to russia. why is obama talking about withholding information from the trump team? >> a constant pattern of sabotage. susan rice and basically every person in the cabinet working as

far as they could to make it as difficult as possible for the incoming administration. he was not a legitimate president. basically going to disregard what the voters had said. this is really, really troubling on a constitutional level and the health of our country level. this would not be happening right now. susan rice thought that michael flynn was a spy because he was more worried about china than russia. that is absolutely an insane justification. how about this administration for the first two years entirely embedded by corporate media liberal and in bed with them. melissa: you know, the other question people are trying to get to the bottom of, how did obama know the details of the conversation between lieutenant general michael flynn in the russian ambassador. james klapper denied being the one to tell obama about the details of that phone call.

but then james comey basically testified that, you know, he had already testified before james klapper saying that congress, comey said, yeah, we are the ones i told klapper about the details of the phone call with the russian ambassador and andrew mccabe said the same thing. why is james klapper now denying he was the one that told obama about it? >> it looks to me because everybody in the situation has egg on their face. i was talking with a counterintelligence official or former official before people were really calling us all a conspiracy. he told me that this looked like a classic set up by intelligence operatives to be briefing the president, breathing the incoming president and use those things as a pretext leaked to the press to sabotage. nobody wants to get caught doing this because it's principally illegal especially in regards to unmasking flynn and the public. >> click final question. is all of this really out of

sync with the perspective about the abuse of power allegations against the obama administration is tens of thousand unmask regular american citizens. it is also about leaking those names to the media. the obama administration, wiretapping, phones, reporters feared getting the irs to target conservative nonprofits. is this a case of a pattern here >> yes, it is. history of abuse. history of people who think they have the good and right to do no evil and do nothing illegal. everything they do is right because they are justified. melissa: christopher bedford. come back soon. great to have you on. >> thank you. melissa: just ahead. more on the disturbing and

concerning revelation and the newly revealed house intelligence documents. they show the top lawyer for the hillary clinton campaign admitting that, yeah, they knew that british ex- spy was talking to the reporters at the washington post and new york times and cnn about is now debunked dossier during the 26 campaign. did they tell reporters that they paid for it? that is what in oklahoma senator james langford about this and much more. stay right there. ♪ ♪

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melissa: newly revealed house intelligence documents show the top lawyer for hillary linton's campaign admitting that, yeah, they were aware he knew that british x by christopher steel was talkinghi to reporters at the washington post, new york times, cnn about his steel

dossier during the campaign. did the hillary campaign tell that they were paid for that file? let's take it to oklahoma senator james langford. senator, great to have you on. i mean, this is a steady river of information coming out of house intelligence. you know, media leaks setting the stage for impeachment. feels like we are still at the beginning. we still do not know a lot. your reaction to this. >> a lot of this we already know, just getting it confirmed in writing and see what many of us have known all along. the house was sitting on a lot of different items that they knew full well while saying in the public for democrats on the house saying we have all of these issues, we know there are some things, we have a smoking gun. when you go to the actual evidence, the smoking gun entry goes the other way. hillary clinton campaign and dnc were working with a foreign agent, british citizen which had hired to try to create a bdocument to come back and to e

able to work with. getting that leaked to the press, b even the fbi had fired them, but quietly a democrat within the fbi that is trying to geton all this information out d make it public. we have all seen it. you can put the pieces together. now we have the actual evidence on that. >> you know, later on, then we find that the steel dossier has russian disinformation in it, the fbi internet rumor. the own forces saying it is hearsay. take it with a grain of salt. it is just talk over the years. his own sources attacking him as embellishing it. there is just so much here. mark alea's december 2017, by the way, a political law firm that funneled the money from the dnc and political campaign to get opposition o research. your question, your reaction is this, media leaks were totally

damaging here. the democrats did not deal, you know, of b course they will leak to help their own side. when you see adam schiff and house intelligence sitting on a lot of information and doing selective leaking, what was your reaction when you sell all of that? >> at the time i was serving on the intel committee. jim comey was saying publicly and privately we have not found anything to confirm the steele dossier. we are stillti looking. the fbi stated that spot. they would not say, hey, we have debunked it. they said we are still confirmingwe it, which, to this day, no evidence the fbi was actually working too confirm ths and getr it resolved one way or the other to get to a decision. as long as they left the steele dossier sitting out there, they some assumptions. the farther they went on it the more they knew this was all rumor, all innuendo, russian misinformation against president trump. just the reverse of what the clinton campaign in so many democratic colleagues have said.

russia was working for trump. clearly, russia was putting disinformation about mr. trump at that time. working against both campaigns. that is what we set all along. russia was not trying to target one side or the other. trying to hurt all americans from all sides and create as much chaos as they can. the democrats played right into it by continuing to stir this russian disinformation for years melissa: it is like rush is treating the election process here like a catspaw, you know. just basically planting and meddling at different levels. when you hear the term russian interference, you know, it goes to a lot of levels. getting the democrats to play a long with what this information rowas. what troubles you the most about this entire saga? >> i think the key issue still has to be resolved and will be resolved is the unmasking of general flynn. everything being prolonged. who would the fbi actually try

to go after, michael flynn and also to extend this russia pro from the earliest days we now know theren' was not evidence there. they were literally trying to dig to find something or to be able to put people in a situation like theyy did for michael flynn to be able to put them in a situation to push them to say something that actually factually was not true just so they could get something done. finding out who actually unmasked all these individuals, finding out who delivered it to the press, which is a federal offense, to be able to take classified information and leak those names to the press will be very important. that will help close the loop on this end to be able to say to any administration in the future, and that transitional power, you cannot go release classified information to try to hurt the next president because you do not politically agree with him. we have to put a stake in the ground on that and say that is not what we do in america and can never have that happen again. melissa: senator, great app you want. thank you so much for your

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♪ melissa: okay. just a week after the justice department dropped its case against lieutenant general michael flynn we are hearing the u.s. attorney for connecticut is the one looking into the trump russia pro that he is now "going full bore flat out onto it." bringing in more prosecutors to help them out. let's welcome in doug burns. doug, here is what we are

seeing. potentially, the top attorney, u.s. attorney for the district of columbia, doug, this feels like they will dig into abuses of the fifo court. stay with me for just a second. under james ellsberg found that the fbihe in 2017 and 2018, basically tens of thousands of improper searches by the fbi during those two years. there is more. i want your take first on that. >> i remember when the pfizer court issued a report saying there were in proprietors and abusers and to work right off the way you set this up. that is exactly where john durham is going. of course, you know, looking ahead legally, most of us are wondering, is this just going to be a report as you had with the inspector general or will there be criminal prosecutions? a little hard to handicap. a little bit of a crystal ball situation. as you have been saying, and i

agree 100%, a lot of improprieties speaking with the application for the initial warrant and the three subsequent renewals,. >> rose collier said unnamed private contractors who were mining the nsa database in 2015 and 2016. that information flew to the court. 85% were noncompliant with core privacy procedures. so, who was doing this under the obama administration using the nsa, going to the court, this feels like tip of the iceberg, john. fand then also unmasking tens of thousands of requests under the obama administration to reveal the nameses of private u.s. citizens that could be on the opposition team, you know, on the other side, against the democrats. your reaction. >> my reaction is under the nsa

rules unmasking is only supposed to take place in limited circumstances. having to do with national security. it is not to be used as you just said with respect to united states citizens and it is very, very troubling. w that is exactly what should be delved into. your larger point they're important to repeat, honestly, a lot of what went on here, you know, using our and issues, you know, as domestic weapons in a potential criminal scenario agat political opponents. everybody has been saying it. laying it all out. that is exactly what was going on. an abuse of power for political gain. melissa: a foreign courts. foreign intelligence, right? >> right. real quick points. the point is, applications if you look at the statute are to develop, you know, information

about foreign governments and their interactions here and so on. again v, it is very, very troubling that these warrants were used against carter, page, of course, and, you know, it was just terrible what went on. we will see what happens with durham in terms of a report or prosecutions. it is hard to say. >> we will have you back. thank you so much for coming in. great to see. house judiciary ranking member jim jordan joins us next. he is pretty outraged. he is angry. he wants answers and he wants them now. what former fbi director james comey is up to. jim jordan with us next stay right there. ♪ you ever wish you weren't a motaur? sure. sometimes i wish i had legs like you. yeah, like a regular person. no. still half bike/half man, just the opposite.

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jim comey is one of the single worst actors in american politics and government in decades. the extent to which he absolutely showed no respect for,r, in many cases, the rule f law, the constitution, bragged about it publicly. he was a bad actor during the bush administration. a bad actor now. he is someone that clearly

office better be very actively investigating the role that he has played. >> that was liz cheney on james comey. even a bad actor under the bush administration. let's bring in house judiciary ranking member jim jordan. congressman, great to have you back here. your take on what you just heard. >> liz is right. love, i said this a couple days ago. you look at the three weeks in january 2017 and jim comey is involved in every key day. some saying he mess with intel community. jim comey as part of the intel committee. the next day he instructs peter struck to tell the two agents, the field agent that said michael flynn should not pursue him anymore, no, comey wants us to go after him. january 5 meets with clapper and

comey and talks about michael flynn january 6. that same group goes up the trump tower. visiting with president trump and talking about the dossier. jim comey. talking about the dossier that comey already knows is a false document. paid for by the clinton campaign erssia disinformation. twelve day later he sends to agents into the white house. does not follow the rules. trapping and setting up michael flynn. liz is exactly right when she says this guy needs to be held accountable. >> also a media leak about the conversations with the president. special counsel robert molar. >> he gets firedrd in may of 20. fast forward five months down the road. what does he deal. he immediately weeks this memo.

gaining classified information. weeks that to do what. this is what is interesting. the insurance policy started out as the investigation itself. that was an insurance policy to stop president trump. when he gets elected and they move into this, the insurance policy came to we have to protect the fact that we did this investigation. we have to get michael flynn. if hee stays on national securiy advisory, he was defensive. he will be able to figure all of this out. we have to get rid of him. phil will protect us now? we have to have bob molar run this bogus special counsel investigation. have 40 agents not find anything >> there is also this back story here, too. did the obama administration and

the fbi under the obama administration, you know, abuse of the pfizer court, did they do unauthorized searches earlier sthan realized? we are seeing judges saying this started in 2015 what the fbi was doing using the database there. possibly searchedd on for political opposition. your reaction to that? >> well, we do not know. in light of all we have learned, the last week, all of these transcripts made public nef klapper saying things public when they were under oath behind closed. doors saying something completely different. no collusion, no coordination, no evidence whatsoever. it would not surprise me, but we do not know. this is why the investigation that john durham is doing. supposedly, that will be done this summer. it is so important. bill barr, asking him to go back

and look at the michael flynn case if that does not happen, we may never learn the information about michael flynn. fbi director for d a couple of years. i applaud the work that bill barr is doing. mike flynn's lawyer. we do not know how far back this garbage went. more importantly, we have to hold someone accountable who was involved in this.ng the primary one they should be looking at is jim comey. liz: senator chuck grassley joined us earlier in the show and he had this to say. talking about president obama. i would like your reaction to this soundbite. watch. >> well, it goes back to januar. still president and vice president. they met and received informationin on the investigations of flynn and things of that nature.

for the first time now in the last couple of weeks we have had enough information that we know of their involvement. i it was a suspicion before, but now it is a fact. we want to know more about that meeting. i asked on the floor the senate last night, what did they know and when did they know it? >> he is saying obama and biden, too. he is suspicious about them. >> an important meeting happen the day before they go up to trump tower and brief the incoming administration a brief president trump. comey is the common link. he is the one that sticks around at the end of the meeting and talks with obama. talking with president trump. we need to get to the bottom of all of this. >> all right. it is great to have you on. good to have you again. come back soon. i am elizabeth mcdonald. you've been watching the evening

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