president will be in michigan tomorrow. he is at a ford manufacturing plant tomorrow. and that is it for us tonight. thank you for being with us. john solomon, michael pillsbury our guests. good night from sussex. elizabeth: welcome to "the evening edit." i'm elizabeth macdonald. we are in breaking news mode. let's get right to what is happening tonight. on wall street stocks soaring on positive earnings. some big retailers like target and lowe's. facebook hitting a record high, all on renewed hopes for a economic recovery as all 50 states are now moving to reopen. with us tonight house judiciary's doug collins, corey lewandoski, former independent counsel ken starr, former top immigration official, border guy, tom homan, exactly what is happening south of the border. there is much going down there. we have got a lot of headlines tonight. first the supreme court today blocked democrat house judiciary from trying to get secret grand

jury evidence from the mueller russia probe to try to impeach trump again. this is happening. a republican-led committee in the senate for the first time voted to issue subpoenas involving the biden's conflicts of interest in ukraine. also this, republicans looking hard at a newly-declassified email susan rice sent to herself on inauguration day on 2017 to determine whether or not former president barack obama, joe biden and other obama officials abused their power. improperly influenced both the fbi's probe of the trump campaign and targeted michael flynn. these officials, it is happening, including susan rice deny knowing anything about surveilness. republicans moving to subpoena these officials. the push to get them accountable for conspiracy, perjury, for lying to congress, can that happen? will that happen? we have potential examples there senate majority leader mitch

mcconnell saying democrats, stop trying to fish for another impeachment. it ain't playing. that debate, could it happen again? thanks for joining us. i'm elizabeth macdonald. "the evening edit" starts right now. at the white house president trump hosting the governors of arkansas and kansas. the president now threatening to hold up, to stop federal coronavirus relief money for states who plan to use absentee and mail-in ballots in upcoming elections. this is a hot story. hillary vaughn has it in washington. she has the latest. hillary. reporter: liz, the president wrapping up a meeting with governors of arkansas and kansas today, talking with gretchen whitmer, the governor of michigan this afternoon after he criticized her secretary of state for sending mail-in ballot applications, over seven million of those to their constituents throughout the state ahead of general election. the president threatening to hold up funding over this,

saying he is concerned what, the role mail-in ballots will play as it relates to voter fraud in the upcoming election. >> well i have very specific funding. i spoke with the governor. we didn't discuss that. we really discussed more the topic at hand plus the dams breaking so we didn't -- we'll let you know if it is necessary. you will be finding out. they will be finding out very soon if it is necessary. i don't think it will be necessary because mail-ballots are a very dangerous thing. they're subject to massive fraud. reporter: as all 50 states begin to open, some parts of their economy across the country the total confirmed cases for the virus in the u.s. hitting over 1.5 million, with over 12 million people being tested so far. this news, a leaked pentagon memo obtained by the website, task and force says they might not have a vaccine for the virus until the end of next summer.

the testing number needs to get increased to get america safely back open. that is according to guidance from the cdc released states and localities wanting to get back to business as usual. testing and contact testing will be key to stop outbreaks of virus. that is something apple and google teamed up today. they released a phase one of the software that will aid in the contact tracing. the president says also he is almost finished taking his regimen of hydroxychlorquine, something he says that his doctor signed off on him taking but that decision to take the drug did catch the attention of his political opponent, former vice president joe biden who says he disagrees with the president's doctor and his medical advice. saying he thinks anti-malaria drug is not safe, that no serious doctor would prescribe it in this case. liz? elizabeth: hillary, thank you so much for your reporting.

let's get to this. the fight between the trump administration and house democrats. it looks like a big loss by house democrats on house judiciary. supreme court rejecting a push by house judiciary democrats to get secret grand jury material out of the trump mueller probe. get to ranking republican on house judiciary. he is congressman doug collins. you're reaction, when you heard that the house democrats lost in this fight? by the way, thanks so much for coming on congressman. what dot house democrats saying now about that supreme court loss? >> well, they're saying, they will say it was wrong, they should have it but the problem they have been wrong from the start. jerry nadler and house democrats in the judiciary committee have been nothing except perpetual investigation, witch-hunting against this president and they wanted information they could not get and never actually engaged in the judiciary department, doj to actually find out what they could get.

they went straight to the courts. they went straight for information they should never get in these processes. and sad part about it was if they wanted to change that, they could look to changing the law. they chose not to work on that, chose going to court getting relief what they want, and they got what they deserve today, nothing. elizabeth: congressman, let's move on to the susan rice email to herself. let me back up. we've been interviewing along with you and house and senate republicans the push to determine whether obama officials improperly influenced the trump russia probe and also the targeting of michael flynn. susan rice is saying now that the, they should release the transcripts of michael flynn's fon call with the russian ambassador. rice's spokeswoman says quote, american people deserve to judge for themselves what happened on the phone call. should those transcripts be released? >> no. look has become the most famous

cya memo ever been written. written two weeks after a oval office, with oval office, obama, biden, comey, yates, susan rice. she wrote it two weeks after, comey make sure the president they were doing it by the book. we know he has not been doing it by the book. we've been following this a long time. on the day of inauguration, may have had a epiphany, oh, my gosh, somebody may find out we're spying on incoming administration. i need to cover myself, cover comey, president obama to make everything looks right. she is simply diverting her own fault to say she did nothing wrong. couldn't be further from the truth. susan rice's credibility is nothing now looking forward to the doj who unmasked the people and leaked it to the press because this is a crime. elizabeth: is it by the book for the outgoing administration to

consider that the incoming trump team basically had officials who were russian agents, is it by the book to determine five months prior that michael flynn had nothing to do with russia but then continue to still try to target him in a perjury trap after the steele dossier was falling apart, is that all by the book? >> no, nowhere close to the book. jim comey coming to believe he wouldn't know the book if it hit him in the face and peter strzok hasn't read the book. when peter strzok found out investigation was going on, texted lisa page we have to make sure investigation stays open so we'll have an end. for comey, go back to the memo, susan rice said he was doing it buy the book, by the book, jim comey said december this past year he didn't do it by the book. i used chaos by the early part of the administration to do what i normally wouldn't been able to do. take his own words out of his own mouth.

he condemns himself. he walks around as superman. he is a shameful part of a corrupt cabal, after a candidate, then a president. it should be punished. elizabeth: it seems like james comey wanted to keep it open. he told peter strzok to keep it open, the look-see into michael flynn because he wanted to see what was going on with that phone call, even though, you know, they didn't have the goods on michael flynn, that phone call at that time. but context of what susan rice is saying, democrats are saying is this, the mueller probe would find contacts between trump campaign officials and russia. that happened after wikileaks released hacked dnc emails. the mueller probe didn't charge anybody for russia conspiracy. >> no, it didn't. in fact the mueller probe showed what we need, there was no collusion with russia and there was no obstruction. this did not happen in the oval office meeting. it is interesting what we've seen a deputized criminal gang looks like strzok, page,

mccabe and comey and now it goes into the oval office and joe biden, president obama, susan rice. we're after them for a long time. this goes back months when they were looking for him as a candidate. carter page, papdopoulus. this is just trying to get a president they didn't like, if you don't believe it, look at the text messages. elizabeth: should congress call in susan rice? here is susan rice denying to pbs's judy woodruff in spring of 2017 that she knew anything about obama officials doing surveillance when a large number of obama officials were doing unmasking. watch this. >> in the last few hours we've been following a disclosure bit chairman of the house intelligence committee devin nunes that in essence during the final days of the obama administration, during the transition, after president trump had been elected that he and the people around him may have been caught up in surveillance of foreign individuals and that their identities may have been

disclosed. do you know anything about this? >> i know nothing about this. i was surprised to see reports from chairman nunes on that count today. elizabeth: okay. sew she denies it. but congressman, take a listen to what senator ron johnson, chair of senate homeland security is saying on this listen to senator ron johnson here. i will get your reaction after the bite. >> the first thought when i read that declassified email, why in the world was that ever classified? my next thought really went to the point you were making here, we didn't witness, what america has become so famous for, a peaceful, cooperative, well--wishing transition of power. instead we saw a corruption of that transition. a transition really designed to sabotage and really upend the new administration. elizabeth: your reaction, congressman? >> look. susan rice is used to telling a lot of whoppers in the obama

administration. she was the point on many things that were just not true. look you can lie to judy woodruff. you can lie to her and say i didn't know anything about it. she better hope she didn't lie under oath and don't lie under oath in front of the senate. if she does there, she perjured herself. another thing to tell the media to keep your image. another thing to tell the truth. everybody was saying there was nothing there, there was nothing there on flynn, yet now we see the corrupt cabal that developed and forcing this with comey, struck, and mccake. strzok was interviewed along with another agent interviewed general flynn. susan rice has oval office meeting, the gravity liz of this, an oval office meeting with obama and biden where they discussed this issue after the fact with the president when yates and comey stayed around, it should just send shivers down everyone that the president himself was concerned, he was actually taking an interest in unmasking individuals. by the way, joe biden, keep

hiding out in the basement, somebody will ask you why you were one of the ones unmasking general flynn? this is something that needs to be investigated. it needs to be answered. if they can do it to them, they can do it to anybody. elizabeth: congressman, great to have you on. come back soon. >> look forward to it. take care. elizabeth: same here. up next, more on the supreme court. today blocking the democrats on how judiciary from seeing secret grand jury evidence in the mueller probe to try to continue to impeach president trump but house democrats knot stopping there. they also want the supreme court to look into improper political influence in the justice department dropping its case against michael flynn. corey lewandoski, trump 2016 campaign manager, joins us next. stay there. >> we have one referral on specifically on a set of leaks. we have another referral on leaks and then we have couple other referrals on lying or misleading congress. i do expect to have referrals on what i call the mueller dossier

team who put together a two-part fantasyland story and then also indicted people from that. so i expect to have some indictments on this also at some point. i'm sorry, referrals. it's time for the memorial day sale on the sleep number 360 smart bed.

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lewandoski. great to have you back on. >> thanks for having me back, appreciate it. elizabeth: house democrats told the supreme court they may get involved in the flynn case. they feel like it is up proper influence by the justice department to basically drop the case against michael flynn. what do you think of the house democrats here? they want to push ahead on this? >> well the house democrats clearly are a partisan group of individuals who used their perch in the majority to assail people, to chastise people, to leak information. look they did it to me. adam schiff did it to me when i had closed-door testimony. he came out and said things which were absolutely untrue, with no recourse. so this notion that they're going to be arbiters of what the justice department should do, they think that michael flynn should continue to be prosecuted from a crooked system, headed up by james comey and andy mccabe is actually laughable. michael flynn is an american hero. he was wronged by the american justice system. his life was destroyed.

he was bankrupted. i believe that michael flynn has a fantastic case. i'm not an attorney of violation of his constitutional rights here. i hope he sues these people both individually and collectively. elizabeth: let's, it is interesting you say that, because flynn's legal team is now asking judge emmet sullivan be removed from flynn's case, for quote, egregiously overstepping his authority. they say the judge is trying to reprosecute the justice department decision to drop the flynn case. let's listen to sidney powell on this. >> the law is clear. there is a new supreme court decision unanimously decided just within the last two weeks that makes it clear he cannot invite the amicus briefs he has. he doesn't have that authority as a district court judge. the case is over and his bias is so egregious he should be removed from the case. elizabeth: you know, she is citing a supreme court case and a d.c. appeals court case to bolster the position there. what do you think of this

situation, this controversy? almost never does supreme court agree on a 9-20 decision. they were right on. attorney powell is right. the bias is so outrageous he should be brought up for charges or a review by panel brought up on this. even though there is appointment for life, there should be a review of his conduct. elizabeth: corey, what happened to, you were unmasked. one of the trump ad cain officials were unmasked. did you notice anything happening? >> no one knows for sure. we know that michael flynn was unmasked. we know that now jimmy jordan, congressman jordan, members of the first family were unmasked on the day donald trump was sworn in as president. other members of the campaign, steve bannon and myself and others were unmasked t costs us, hundreds of thousands of dollars

if not millions of dollars to defend ourselves when the government came after us. it is a scary proposition when people with badges and guns do that to american citizens. elizabeth: you spent a lot of money defending yourself here? >> oh, i did. i spent hundreds of thousands of dollars defending myself against a crime i never committed. solely because i supported donald trump and worked for a candidate in political office i thought would change the direction of our country and i was right. can you imagine this being done in this great country or done the other way. if the previous administration, if george w. bush had spied on the obama team, it would be world news t would be people accountable, not one person from the obama administration has been held accountable yet. i hope that time is coming. elizabeth: all right. corey lewandoski, thank you so much for joining us. really appreciate it. okay. next up we've got democrats now attacking republicans saying, what you're doing with these probes right now are chasing wild conspiracy theories. you're trying to distract from

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well, pushing ahead on subpoenas as part of their investigation into the trump russia probe, what happened there, the origins of it. also the tash getting of michael flynn. democrats including senate minority leader charles schumer attacking republicans, quote, chasing wild conspiracy theories an distracting from the covid-19 outbreak. former independent counsel ken starr. they're pushing ahead over objections of democrats, is this wild conspiracy theories distractions from covid-19? >> i don't think so. about time we had all the facts. let all the facts come out and let's assess the facts. we don't need to jump into any conclusions. this is silly. this is political rhetoric, much to be expected but, let's move forward. let's find out what happened, once and for all. elizabeth: because you don't want it to happen again and americans shouldn't have it happen again, is that it? >> every stage something went

wrong. the transition, the susan rice memorandum and email, is extremely troubling. mike flynn interview, extremely troubling. the charges eventually brought against mike flynn by the special counsel, extremely troubling. the behavior of judge sullivan now, extremely troubling. we need to get everything out and we need, first of all, let me just say we need to get these charges against general flynn dismissed. this is a tragedy, but it is also legally quite wrong, with all due respect to judge sullivan to continue. yes, we need to get everything out on the table, assess it, analyze it, close the book on a very troubling part of american history. elizabeth: government documents show they were doing a counterintelligence operation on michael flynn five months prior to that january 2017 oval office middle easting with obama. >> right.

elizabeth: and then towards december of 2016, james comey said i don't think we're going to look into michael flynn. we don't see anything here. doesn't look like he is a russian agent. then the phone call happened on december 29th, james comey said, wait a second, peter strzok, tell the case agent not to shut the case with michael flynn. keep it open. we'll see what happened with the phone call. >> seems to me one would expect and jim comey's position to expect the national security advisor to be, incoming national national security advisor to be in communication with people around the world. there were issues, russian sanctions, that the obama administration was imposing, a little bit bee belatedly, littlo late, general flynn had every reason to be communicating with the russian ambassador. it is very troubling there would be an unmasking of general flynn when he is just doing his job at

the time. he should never have had that interview in the white house on january 24th. the case should have been over. the counterintelligence case had essentially been closed. elizabeth: yeah. they tried to get him in a perjury trap. tried to get him to lie. i think talked him out of having a lawyer present. he felt they were, it was an informational interview. they went around white house counsel. sat him down, tried to corner him. there was indication he didn't mislead according to the notes of that interview. then they turned around and said he did mislead fbi investigators. this story is still on going. your take on now senate republicans voting to subpoena, to issue subpoenas in the, against the consultant blue star, which is a consulting firm for the ukraine energy company burisma where joe biden's son was on the board of?

they want to see if that consulting firm unduly influenced u.s. agencies during the became administration. this is the furs subpoena of its kind. again ukraine controversy involving conflicts of interest of bidens, first subpoenas. your first reaction when you saw the story? >> i thought it was about time. as you know during the fall these issues were arising with respect to the ukraine, burisma and the like and there was no inquiry, no investigation at all, the democratic majority would not allow that. so i wish this had been done a few months ago, but better to have it done now. better late than never. my view is very simple. the american people would like to have the benefit of all the facts as opposed to name-calling and suggesting these are all conspiracy theories. why don't we get the facts and assess them? elizabeth: yeah. you know, yeah, burisma hires blue star a consulting firm. they start working inside of the

obama administration agencies there and you know, then there is vice president joe biden sitting there. maybe we'll get to the bottom of it. we'll be on it. we'll be digging through the documents. ken starr, thanks for coming in. great to see you. >> great to see you, liz, thank you. elizabeth: okay. here is a story. this is what's going on. republicans increasingly demanding how much former president obama and joe biden knew what was going on with the abuses in the trump russia probe and targeting of michael flynn. there is growing debate, can people be held accountable. we'll ask texas attorney general ken paxson about that. what happened with 15ags a part of, they signed a brief defending michael flynn. that story next.

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joe biden knew what was going on with the abuses in the trump russia probe and prosecution and targeting of michael flynn. there is growing debate how to hold people accountable. there is action happening now with that. welcome texas attorney general ken paxton. he is one of 15 republican attorney generals filing a brief to defend michael flynn and urging the judge to dismiss the case. first, great to have you on, sir. republicans including devin nunes are talking about criminal referrals of obama officials potentially for perjury for lying to congress, also possible criminal referrals for conspiracy. that is under debate right now. what is your take on that news? >> look, they have been investigating donald trump since the day, even before he came into office and there has been, there has been thousands and thousands and thousands of hours put into the investigating donald trump and his administration and if there was wrongdoing involved, i have no problem with the investigations going the other way.

certainly putting somebody through that, and they have done it inappropriate or violated the law, they should be held accountable for it. elizabeth: switch back to you and 14 other state attorneys generals filing a brief defending michael flynn. can you talk to us quickly about that? >> so there were 15 state attorneys led my ohio, solicitor general wrote our brief. we signed on and the focus is really separation of powers. here you have a judge who is supposed to act as a judge, who is supposed to be impartial, who is stepping into the roll of a prosecutor saying he will not dismiss a case and basically appointing his own prosecutor. you taken him out of the role as judge, he is now the prosecutor. he is inappropriate. he needs to recuse himself. we were right to say that the cast should be dismissed. elizabeth: all right. let's move back to the obama officials who could be subpoenaed to testify before congress. constitutional scholar jonathan

turley is now asking whether obama's u.n. ambassador samantha power committed perjury. she testified under oath to house intelligence she had no recollection of even a single request to unmask the individual talking to the russian ambassador. samantha requested unmasks at least seven times. also john brennan is basically testified to congress, you know, about issues where he was found to have denied that the intelligence community assessment, you know, basically used the steele dossier or relied on it, when in fact it did. so, those are the individuals that come up in government documents and according, also to jonathan turley. your take on this? because holding people accountable has frustrate ad lot of people. what is your take? >> so the things that they said had an impact on people's lives including general flynn. these are important statements and to not remember or to

falsely say these things should have consequences. certainly had consequences to general flynn and others being investigated. to donald trump who had to put up with this for almost four years. there ought to be consequences, if this was done inappropriately or they lied. elizabeth: okay. here is fox news contributor, former republican trey gowdy on ag barr saying he doesn't expect referrals for obama and biden. watch trey gowdy here. >> but the broader point that ag barr was making is, we have to have more ways to hold folks accountable in our culture other than than indictment. you can't say you're either indicted or you did a good job. the media, voters, other people have to say you know what? you may have narrowly avoided indictment but you abused a position of trust, or you engaged in malfeasance we'll hold you accountable. it just can't be indicting someone. there has to be other ways of doing it. elizabeth: sir what is going on,

is, these individuals are going on tv, going on the media, talking as if it was statements of fact, talking authoritatively about things that were proven to be later false and wrong. so again, how do you hold individuals accountable? >> i think trey gowdy is right. investigations that don't lead to indictments ought to at least providing information to the american public about the fact that these people may have lied. it at least they impugn people wrongly. these people to have their names cleared, if they didn't do the things they were accused of doing year after year after year. they deserve that. they deserve the truth. elizabeth: attorney general, thanks for joining us. come back soon. >> thank you. have a good day. elizabeth: up next nor more on the double standard in the media. if trump administration did this to incoming biden administration heads would explode.

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heard kayleigh say that. >> the president seems to have the press secretary he always wanted in kayleigh mcenany. she has the ability now to throw back at the media things they got wrong or, places or times when they have been hypocritical. in this case pointing out a hypothetical, which is, yeah, what happens if the trump administration 20201, 2025 besides to unmask key members of incoming democrat medication. i would not used heads would explode i would use the pitchfork store would run out of pitchforks. like what we saw with brett kavanaugh and tara reade, those allegations the complete contrast in two very similar situations. she makes an excellent point. unmasking is one thing, but if you make the arguement it is routine, that's fine. i have to know from the media perspective, unmasking of flynn somehow ended up in the pages of

"the washington post"? why did andy mccabe leak to the "wall street journal." after he leaked, lied to the fbi it, gee, did he go off into obsecurity? no, he was hired by cnn to be a legal expert on all things intelligence, in terms of how you act from a moral perspective with the certain ethics code which is just amazing. he is on tv talking about this sort of thing. james comey, you remember, may, 2017 admitted in 2017 he leaked to "the new york times" to prompt a special counsel this is the thing among the intelligence community at high levels. when you leak, that is supposed to be a felony, 10-year felony mind you. yet no one in our industry or very few anyway are curious about this, to pursue this as a story. instead it is called a conspiracy theory, which is a conspiracy theory in itself for not covering it. elizabeth: yeah. stay on this too. democrats funded, including the hillary campaign fusion gps

funded opposition research. christopher steele meets with "the washington post," "new york times." yahoo! news run as story that the fbi then uses as a basis for fisa wiretaps to get wiretaps on trump campaign. it is circular. want to talk about news coming out about michael flynn. "the washington post" reported, michael flynn's name was never unmasked. his name was already known. it appears michael flynn at that time in, late 2016 was under a counterintelligence operation. so his name was already known. but the context here joe, the danger is the media, the concern is the media may miss this, republicans say, that when michael flynn's name was revealed in counterintelligence documents, that at that time james comey and the top officials of the fbi felt they

did not have a case against michael flynn. they didn't think it was a russian agent. then he calls the russian ambassador. then they say, well let's figure out what happened with the phone call with the russian ambassador. then they corner michael flynn without a lawyer saying, what is the goal here? get him to lie to an fbi official in order to prosecute him. that is the context joe. your reaction to this development he wasn't unmasked. that flynn's name may not have been unmasked? >> isn't that amazing. that is in terms of something you just said, we need to prosecute him. get him to lie. that is documented. this is on paper. this is not some source telling somebody that this happened. and look, the bottom line is, other questions that the media should be asking a lot more is, what crime exactly did michael flynn commit? remember where we were from geopolitical perspective with russia going into 2017, as it pertained to syria, what was going on in aleppo and that

war-torn country where there were u.s. forces, russian forces. there is isis and yes, if i'm national security advisor i think first call i'm making to the russian ambassador to set the table before i take office. was he investigated before in the first place? being a russian asset? i heard that story before. the mueller report concluded it was all about. s. elizabeth: joe, come back on the show. love having you on. like your perspective. >> thank you, liz. i have the home studio in jersey i need to use more. my kids are not run in which is incredible. they have been yelling at me from upstairs. elizabeth: retired i.c.e. acting director tom homan on the u.s. government extending another month on non-essential travel borders across canada and mexico. we have news what is happening on the southern border what is happening with the covid

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♪. elizabeth: the u.s. government yesterday extended for another month restrictions on non-essential travel across the borders with canada and mexico

to stop the spread of covid-19. let's bring in retired i.c.e. acting director tom homan. tom, again, an extension ever the shutdown for non-essential travel. your reaction to the story. >> that is great decision by the president. covid-19 may be new but i said many times disease and sickness comes across that border almost daily. when i was i.c.e. director we had detention centers shut down because measles, mumps, tb cases. we had one case of tb resistant to any drug known. we kept them in detention for months. think if that person got into the community. the president made the right move again. >> border patrol guys are trying help individual, illegal border crossers who are sick, right, they are trying to help them get treatment, correct? >> absolutely. if there is a situation someone comes across the border and they need medical help they're not turning around back to mex cope.

the humanity still there, the border patrol, men and women of border patrol saved over 4,000 lives last year. that doesn't change or go away. the humanitarian response is still there. elizabeth: okay. now, here's the other thing. covid outbreak in detention centers, can you talk to us about that? that the administration is flying people back to various countries in the northern triangle, meaning el salavador, guatemala and honduras. also expanded to south america. can you tell us about that. >> i.c.e. has done a really good job of the covid. if someone new brought into the facility. they're cohorted separately for 14 days, make sure they're not estimatetic. if they are symptomatic they're immediately put into isolation. detention facilities have 24/7 doctors and nurses. that is better than the average u.s. citizen. if he is symptomatic he stays home or really sick goes into

the hospital. when you're symptomatic in i.c.e. facility, 24/7 medical attention. if you look at other medical facilities and detention centers, the rate of covid is a lot less than other facilities. they make sure they're tested. masks are being handed out. facilities are being cleaned almost hourly. i.c.e. went above and beyond taking care of the people in their custody. elizabeth: what you're telling us now is counter to what democrats have been saying about i.c.e. and border patrol in their criticisms of it. they have been attracting, attacking bored are patrol being inhumane. >> well that is a shame because the men and women of border patrol and men and women of i.c.e. are american patriots. they leave the safety and security of their home every day to defend the nation. strap a gun to hair hip, put on a kevlar vest. they saved a lot of lives in. my 34 years of law enforcement i never seen such hatred for law

enforcement agency. they would rather vilify them to enforce laws they enacted f they don't like what i.c.e. does, change the law. they're the legislators. stop vilifying the heroes. they are mothers and daughters too. they're doing a tough job. we need to sal route them from that. elizabeth: they're from immigrant families protecting immigrant communities. reuters reports mexico with severe covid outbreak. two hospitals in southern california near the border were forced to shut the door with covid patient the coming in. those are u.s. citizens. can you tell us about the covid outbreak, what you know about that in mexico? >> i wrote a op-ed on april 9th in foxnews.com. that would happen. there is perfect storm. they are not responding quickly to covid as president trump did. first in mexico, covid is running rampant. second of all remittance paints of illegal aliens to send money in mexico that virtually stopped

because of unemployment in this country. they're taking a double hit with the economy. now seeing covid affecting their economy. they're not getting billions of dollars in remittances right now. so i said in my op-ed you will see them come across the border, really sick. rather be in american hospital than mexican hospital. they want to come here because people like nancy pelosi with stimulus package, wants to give them stimulus money. gavin newsom giving $75 million to illegal aliens with covid response in california. why wouldn't they come? we have the best health care system. we have politicians like pelosi and newsom giving them money. it is a perfect storm. and i think it is going to get worse before it gets better with the sickness coming across, taking advantage ever the enticements. elizabeth: critics say we have homeless veterans and a lot of poverty in this country already. tom homan, thank you so much. really great to see you. i'm elizabeth macdonald. you're watching "the evening edit" on fox business. we hope you have a good evening.

join us again tomorrow night. ♪ ♪ ♪ lou: good evening, everybody. breaking news tonight, the supreme court has handed another major legal victory to president trump and a setback to the radical dems. the supreme court has telephoned the radical -- denied the radical dems on the house judiciary committee access to redacted grand jury materials from special come robert mueller's -- counsel robert mueller's fraudulent russia investigation. the radical dems had told the supreme court, if you can imagine, that they need those materials to determine whether there was any new evidence of impeachable offenses by president trump. the finding of the special counsel was that there w