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more than 329,000. in the united states, 1.5 million americans have been infected by the virus. the number of americans killed almost 100,000. since president trump issued his ban on travel from china, he's also implemented bans on travelers from iran, much of the european union, the united kingdom and ireland are. flights from those restricted nations to the united states, however, arrive every single day, three direct flights from wuhan, china, landed at new york's jfk airport since last friday a alone, two at los angeles international airport in the same time period. there are a number of flights also scheduled to the united states from other parts of china as well as the virus hot spot. frank further, paris, rome --
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frankfurt, paris, rome, london. in fact, the president's ban has been all but ignored. since january those flights have brought in more than 365,000 people into the united states directly from china, another 1.5 million more people from other parts of asia, 2 million people from western europe and nearly 200,000 more from eastern europe with. while president trump's travel bans exclude american citizens, green cardholders and a number of other exemptions, anyone coming to the united states from a restricted country is required to come through 13 u.s. airports. they are then subject to enhanced entry screening including questions about their medical history, current condition and temperature checks. they're also required to quarantine at home for 14 days to, to provide contact details to officials, but no one seems to know whether those regulations are being enforced.
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is that mandatory 14-day quarantine, for example, for returning travelers being enforced? and if so, by whom? well, state leaders like new york's governor andrew cuomo said, well, it's not his jobbed to do. job to do. >> it's not a state role. they're in coordination, but they determine who comes, who doesn't come. it's purely federal, and they determine what procedures and practices are in place for those who do come. lou: one of the nation's top federal immigration and border security officials is the man responsible for enforcement of those travel restrictions. he joins us tonight from washington, d.c., acting customs and border protection commissioner mark morgan. mark, good to have you with us. a lot of questions are arising. the announcement that some airports would be, for example, screening for temperatures. what i think much of the country
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just assumed, that that was taking place in the face of this pandemic. why is it only taking place now? >> well, lou, let's go back to what you started and what this president did -- lou: whoa, whoa, whoa, commissioner, let me say, mark, you and i, we know each other well -- >> we do. lou: i respect you deeply, and i always felt that was reciprocated. let's deal with what i'm asking because it's important, it's very important. >> it is. lou: this audience understands the history. the reality is that those temperature checks, most americans believed they were already in place. why were they not? >> well, lou, right now, look, i'm coming at this from a law enforcement perspective. i'm not the medical expert here. so what we are doing though is we are working with the cdc, hhs and other health care providers to come up with a solution that is effective, a common sense,
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effective solution. is and right now, lou, what we've done, those entering the countries including those areas, cdp, we have screened almost 300,000 people. that means 300,000 people that have come in we've effectoffly screened them -- effectively screened them and pushed them on to medical experts for further screening. so that is being done. now, what we've done from that, from that 300,000, only a handful have been identified needing further screening and, ultimately, were found to have covid. is so so right now those screening procedures, they're effective. that doesn't mean we can't continue to improve, and we are having those discussions. lou: okay. and that's terrific. we're three months into this, and the reality is that temperatures, apparently, haven't been taken to this point or there wouldn't have been an announcement last week that you were beginning those temperature screenings. secondly, there's a ban, a ban on travel from china. there is a ban, as you know, the
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other regions and countries. and yet i think, again, most americans are surprised to learn we're talking about millions of people, not hundreds of thousands or tens of thousands, coming into this country from nations that were banned. and we're not talking about u.s. nationals, we're talking about foreign nationals. >> look, lou, this president's been very clear as well, there has to be a balance. there has to be a balance between the very real concerns from a public health standpoint as well as an economic standpoint. that is a challenging balance. we have to take both of those into account, we have to be thoughtful and methodical as we're applying that. we just can't turn off and shut everything off. we have to be reasonable and methodical and balance that. and right now one of the things we're doing is we're piloting certain additional screenings to
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see if it's effective. lou, you know as well as i do, look, a lot of people are asymptomatic with this. even a temperature check -- look, i'm not a medical health professional. we know there are a lot of people who have had screening who are completely asymptomatic including the temperature check that later were found out to have had covid. lou: no, i understand. >> we have to do this by a data-driven approach. lou: and i, i comprehend that part. like you, not a medical expert, but i'm something of, if you will, a educated person when it comes to screening, immigration. in fact, ports of entry in what is derig our across the country. even that has not been followed, is my understanding. and, by the way, you said on this broadcast that we were taking the words of people traveling from those countries
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as to whether or not their origin was what they said it was. and i'm wondering have we become more sophisticated and competent in that regard. >> lou, we have been and we're constantly monitoring and shifting to improve what we're doing. i'll give you ap example. just this week the president authorized the extension of two very important travel restrictions at our land poes, ports of entry, as well as in between the ports of entry. the cdc extended the order that's been very effective those coming across our border illegally. now with that cdc order, we're able to remove those individuals immediately back to mexico within an hour. that means we're not bringing them into our facilities, we're not exposing our work force or other ingrants or american citizens. -- immigrants. we had over 3,500 individuals in hour holding facility just before covid, and now we have less than 100. that's an effective containment
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mitigation strategy. at our land ports of entry, we have the nonessential travel as i know you've talked about, right after that was instituted, we saw a drop of over 400,000 people per day entering this cup. lou, 400,000 people, that's an effective containment and mitigation strategy. they are working. does that mean we can't improve? no. we're constantly working with people, we're working with officials, we're working with local leaders to see where we can improve. lou: well, and i commend you for that because so many government agencies, in fact, never, never acknowledge that there is room for improvement, never acknowledge in point of fact that their systems are in place are not perfect. and i know you as a person and as a leader. i have the highest regard for the fact that you take a look at the prospect of failure and recognize deficiencies and move to meet them.
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what do you consider to be the greatest concern for you? what keeps you awake, as the saying goes, in terms of more security, immigration policy and screening? >> lou, that's a great question. here's what keeps me awake. right now this country, the citizens of this country have made tremendous sacrifices. they've listened to the medical experts. they have done the things that they have been asked, and just as this country starts to reopen in a thoughtful, methodical way, reopen this economy -- as we should -- what keeps me awake is what's happening outside our borders. mexico, for example. their cases are continuing to incline, both cases and deaths. lou: right. >> the western hemisphere, brazil, for example, now becomes the western hemisphere epicenter. we apprehended 148 people from 148 different countries last year, a lot of them traveled through brazil. so what concerns me right now, what keeps me up is as we are doing everything that we can in this country, to reopen this economy, i'm concerned that we
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could be introducing people from outside our borders that could jeopardize that, and we have to shut that town. shut that down. and we have to do that in a balanced way of public health and economic issues, and that's exactly what we're doing. lou: and, of course, these arrivals from china, banned and the origin of the wuhan virus, to see that number of people coming in here is, i think you would acknowledge, unsettling. because the ban is in place. that is and remains a hot spot along with northeastern china now that the chinese government has locked down another 100 million of its citizens because of flare-ups there. how are you responding to that? >> again, lou, we're constantly monitoring. and like you said, we're making sure, we're taking a look at our screening procedures, and we're seeing what areas and how can we get more effective with those screening procedures. we're looking at our
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contactation. we're seeing where can we get more effective and improve on that contact tracing so insure that an individual who does come boo our border through the airport, for example, they're screened effectively, evaluated from a medical health perspective and we have effective contact tracing to be able to enforce that. those are all things we're trying constantly to improve and get better. but, again, i'll push it back to the land poes and in between the po ez. this time last year we had 20,000 people in our custodiment right now can you imagine a single person that crossed our border illegally that was infected with covid could not only infect countless of our work force, but hundreds, hundreds of immigrants themselves that would overwhelm our local health care system. that has all been turned off because of these orders. lou: right. mark morgan, that's why we invited you here tonight to take it all up, and we appreciate it, and we appreciate everything
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that customs and border protection is doing for the country. we appreciate it. good to see you. up next in tonight's broadcast, we'll be talking with the hudson institute's dr. michael pillsbury about the new trump administration report on u.s. national security strategy that apparently no one authored and few people comprehend, apparently. what does it mean for the relationship with china, for example? we'll take that up as well with congressman devin nuñes. we'll be talking about the obamagate and whether or not anyone will be going to jail for the outrages against american law, the constitution, this president and this nation. and investigative journalist john solomon with the latest on the relationship between joe biden and former ukraine president poroshenko and why it's far more complicated than previously known. imagine that.
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preare siding over that case -- presiding over that case. a federal a appellate court today ordering judge emmet sullivan to respond to the justice department's motion to dismiss the case by june 1st. this appellate court order orders sullivan to explain why he denied the justice department's request to dismiss the case. flynn's attorney, sidney paul, telling -- sidney powell, telling this broadcast the ruling indicates the appellate court sees a problem to the administration of justice and, certainly, that problem -- the focal point of that problem is none other than the judge, emmet sullivan. finish a former judge of elections in philadelphia, turning to the sublime from the absurd, has admitted he was stuffing democratic ballots for years. dominic demurro pleaded guilty
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to federal charges and faces up to 15 years in prison, admitting a political consultant bribed him to add fake votes for some democrats running for judge positions. also breaking tonight, the fbi says to today's shooting at the naval air station in corpus christi was a terrorist attack. the terrorist was shot dead, but a second person of interest may be at large in the community. fbi officials told the public to remain calm, but they did not name the terrorist, nor did they describe the terrorist in any way identify the at-large person of interest either. the american people, i would remind the fbi who have become your yo-like in -- euro-like in their totalitarianism and denial of americans' right to know -- are proceeding on a dangerous,
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dangerous path. the fbi has abandoned its responsibility to inform the public in emergencies and events like in that they acknowledge was -- this that they acknowledge was a terrorist attack. it is also clear that former president barack obama and the deep state targeted general flynn because of his stances on foreign policy and what flynn would know and could uncover as president trump's former director of defense intelligence. we want to credit author lee smith for his report in tablet magazine in which lee smith wrote this, quote: flynn not only made it clear that he wanted to unto iran deal -- undo the iran deal, he also broadcast his determination to find the documents detailing the secret deals between obama and iran and to pub hi size them.
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bubbly size them. all of them. former director of defense intelligence means he knew how and where to find the evidence behind spygate. well, joining us tonight is congressman devin nuñes, ranking member of the house intelligence committee, member of the house ways and means committee and hero of the spygate tragedy and scandal. congressman, it is, as always, good to see you. we're starting to get a sense that there are a lot of obama holdovers in the trump administration, and many of them facilitated the creation of this scandal and the frustration of this president, his policies and administration agenda at almost every turn. how big a part do you believe they have played in this scandal? >> well, what you're really talking about, lou, is you're
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talking about the greer deep state. and for me, my definition of the deep state is all the layers of bureaucracy in the greater washington, d.c. area that are mostly leftist, mostly children of the left, products of the left and totally know who their bosses and overlords really are. and that exists all i throughout every agency. it's not just with the intelligence agencies, it's at the department of the defense, the department of agriculture. but i think that probably the most concerning part is that because the trump, you know, trumped had never been in politics before -- and i'm not trying to make excuses, it's not an excuse, but, you know, he didn't come to washington, d.c. with a whole apparatus behind him, a whole pyramid of people who had lived their careered in washington d.c. lou: right. >> so when he arrived, i think the president thought, saw the good in people and thought, well, if we have a national security council with 400, 500
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people, these must all be patriots, these must be people on the front lines that are warriors. they're in the military. i think the president just believed those people were all good. and what happened was that the deep state was left, a lot of obama holdovers were left in there that essentially worked very, very hard to take down the president of the united states. and i think we only know a fraction of what they were doing inside the white house grounds at the very beginning of the trump administration. lou: you know, i think you're exactly right. and what we already know is astounding, appalling and disgusting. but when we attach to the teach state its masters who appear -- to the deep state its masters who appear to be radical dems whether it be nancy pelosi, chuck schumer, barack obama, perhaps the former vice president, joe biden, as well, and then go to adam schiff, the
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chairman of the committee of which you are ranking member, i mean, the list goes on. these are loyal opposition, members of the loyal opposition party the likes of which we've never seen, hell bent on subverting a president, overthrowing a president. and i think most americans now as a we listen to the -- as we listen to the attorney general talk about investigating the investigators whether it's the special counsel, the fbi, the house intelligence committee, judiciary, there's a question now aft attorney general -- after the attorney general says that there is no intention to charge a former president who at this moment appears to be, it's not unrealistic to expect based on the evidence we have that he had foreknowledge or that joe biden, who we know was going after a ukrainian prosecutor because it's on videotape. we have a huge case filled with
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unknowns, uncertainty and a justice department now led by an attorney general who's ruling out prosecuting the people who might be the very head of what has turned out to be a criminal organization and relationship between the radical dems and the deep state. >> well, let me say this. so i think we have to be very careful. i know how frustrating it is because obama and biden surely knew about this, okay? they knew about it, they were well briefed on it. but let's look at the evidence. we have to go off of evidence and then what we can actually bring charges on. and we've covered what my criminal referrals have been -- lou: sure. >> many of your folks know about it, so we won't go back into that. but i think we have to be -- we should not jump to any conclusions, because i think that both durham and the u.s. attorney out of connecticut and the u.s. attorney out of missouri as they begin to pull this apart and look at, you
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know, what happened in early 2016, what happened during the trump transition and then i take also important what happened during the mueller, the time that the mueller witch hunt was stood up and everything that happened from the flynn indictment and so on and so forth with the report. all those things have to be looked at. and what we don't need right now is any politicization, so to speak, of this. and i don't want -- i don't think, i don't want the attorney general just like i've done. you've never heard me come out and say, well, i made criminal referrals on this person, this person, this person. you've never heard me do that, you've never heard me say that. and that's because every american is, you know, should be treated fairly. we made our criminal referrals, we dead our whole investigation -- we did our whole investigation. i suspect that now the u.s. attorney out of connecticut is looking at those among other criminal referrals made by the u.s. senate. and i think we should expect
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fairness from everybody involved in this. lou: well, i think is so too. i know that we've had great fairness from the obama administration that unleashed this, this criminal act against a president. one way or another, you know that for a fact and as do i, millions of americans. we also know that no one wanted to jump to any conclusions as they pursued this president, accusing him of colluding with the russian government for three damn years. i do understand your search here for fairness, and i'm glad you respect my frustration as well. >> well, had i -- lou: congressman, could we ask you to finish i'm sorry, congressman, we've got a hard out. could i ask you to stay with us through the commercial break? we'll be right back with my age-related macular degeneration could lead to vision loss. so today i made a plan with my doctor, which includes preservision... because he said a multi- vitamin alone may not be enough.
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♪ ♪ lou: we're back with congressman devin nuñes.
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and, congressman, i want to get to the point that we began on, and that is the statements of the attorney general at a time when we were watching general flynn. he has now been shown to be a man who was trampled by the department of justice and the fbi and with the full knowledge of the oval office. and, you know, it's a hard thing for any american to stomach that that is not going to be fully and aggressively prosecuted by the attorney general and the department of justice. it's, frankly, it's sickening to me. your point. >> well, i just -- remember, a lot of people didn't pay attention to the appointment of the u.s. attorney out of missouri who really got to the bottom of all this and presented it before the court. what we have here is we have a question within the judicial branch of government which is something that we have not seen in this country. now, this has been appealed by,
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sent to the appellate court by flynn's lawyers. a three-judge panel has been put together. they've asked for this judge sullivan to present why he thinks he could do this and shouldn't dismiss the case, allow the case to be dismissed because no one's prosecuting general flynn numb. that's -- anymore. that's the amazing part about all of this. i just think people shouldn't -- when you hear the attorney general or myself not get in the business of naming names, it's because we're conducting serious investigations here. okay? and in order for there to be serious investigations, one of the key things you don't want to have happen is you don't want to be seen as targeting anyone, because the evidence is going to speak for itself. either there is a 302 from the original flynn ambush in the white house or there is not. if there is, there's going to be holy hell to pay if that 302 exists, because the communication that goes on after that 302 is produced and obviously being changed and new ones being generated, being
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briefed to u.s. congress which we put into our report, this is all important evidence to hold these people accountable. lou: i understand. i also understand that the attorney general, as you talk about the 302s, has decided that christopher wray is a terrific fbi director. we also now, given the documents that have been released, we know that christopher wray has been stonewalling everyone and refusing to bring forward evidence and honor the public's right to know. this is not a man who has spent a lot of his time as director of the fbi trying to reform a corrupt organization. this is, we're now five months from the election, and you and i and most americans know clearly the democrats with their nonsense and the deep state in
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complicity stole the 2018 midterm elections with their nonsense, with special counsels and persistent fbi investigations. they named names. they went after this president and troyed the republican party -- and destroyed the republican party at the polls as a result. it was theft, plain and simple. and as the president said in his 2016 campaign, crooked as hell. i added the as hell. >> i think what you -- lou, you hit something important, and that is that they used the special counsel, they used the russia hoax investigation not only in '16 when they tried to use it for a dirty trick, they used it to try to oust the president and to raise money and defeat republicans in 2018. i can't greet -- i can't agree with you any more. and i are just say i have defend usa.com where my podcast is, and i talk this week to tom rooney, and he talks about just how corrupt it was down in the basement when we were conducting
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lou: join us tonight is dr. michael pillsbury of the hudson institute, author of "the
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hundred-year marathon." and, mike as you know tonight and our audience should know, at this very moment beijing is about to take over hong kong and establish full control of hong kong. it's making absolutely no secrets of its intentions. your thoughts very quickly, if we may, about what we can expect. >> well, the u.s. congress warned against this, lou. it's been in the works for a couple years that china would pass this national security law and essentially assert us own sovereignty on hong kong. so now the issue's going to be, obviously, what the american reaction is, what can be done. there are a number of sanctions that were proposed by the congress, individual chinese officials being sanked, products from hong kong -- sanctioned, products from hong kong no longer given an export quo to. there's a number of steps to counter this, hopefully, to get the chinese to reverse
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themselves. lou: and, of course, we have a now a blueprint, if you will, a document from the white house, a national security strategy. and as i look at it, i can't, i can't figure out what in the hell it has to do with china. there's no reference to pandemic that china unleashed on the world. their refusal to warn the world of this deadly contagion or their aggression in the south china sea. it is an incomprehensible pablum across 18 pages. your thoughts. >> it's on the white house web site. it says it's the presidential stage approach to china, but it has no quotations from president trump at all, doesn't have his signature. it appears to have been written by a committee that has a lot of consensus points that, frankly,
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even obama or vice president biden wouldn't sign up for. it does not present a strategy. that's what the congress nappedded. they wanted -- demanded. they wanted a future strategy for what does president trump intend to do. not just to have a competition with china, but to win the competition. none of that is in this document. it's very puzzling to me, lou. i'm not one of the authors, i'm sorry to say. it wouldn't read this way had i been involved. lou: well, i'm asking who is the author of this? there's no name on it. i couldn't discern whether it came from robert o'brien, the national security adviser, was it the state department, dod, some combination of this? there is a reference to a whole of government which sounds, to me, suspiciously like no one is in charge which means that's too typical of government day in and day out. >> it looks like it's a committee of about ten
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departments at the working level with some political appointees. basically, lou, stitching together what they're done over the last two or three years and maybe hoping the congress or the public or the chinese will not notice that this is really not a strategy. one congressmanned today, mac thornberry, called it -- i think correctly -- he called it a good start. [laughter] lou: a good start after two years of compilation and finally this condensation into, as i said, to me, it's utter nonsense. the references in it to engagement, challenges, it's written by inseven sate individuals who seem to have no either intellect or experience. >> well, they do seem to have the hope that china will still join us and be our friend. there are a number of paragraphs that specifically say that, that we have to continue to engage
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china, and china should, you know, observe international norms more often than it has been. as i say, this could have been signed by obama of biden, i think. it's not very controversial. just a statement of what's been going on the last few years. president trump could give a peach on china himself and to a -- a speech on china himself and do a lot better on this report. which, as i say, it's not signed by the president himself. it's sort of anonymous report from ten government agencies that appeared on the white house web site. lou: there is in this, if you will, something of a shrinking from the reality that is the obvious aggression of china and their intent to dominate the world. the refusal suddenly, i don't hear the president talking about the chinese coronavirus. i hear covid-19, i don't hear
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wuhan virus. viruses all over the world are named after places of origin. i call it the wuhan virus for that very reason. that and the fact that dr. tedros insists on calling it covid-19 which is silly as hell, in my opinion. this is shrinkage. this is not the kind of policy that created the successes of putting on billions and billions of dollar dollars of tariffs on the chinese as the president demanded balanced and reciprocal trade and won it. >> not only is president trump not quoted anywhere in the report, lou, but even worse than that one of his foundational principles that we must not allow china to you are surpass -- to surpass us and that china would surpass us if hillary clinton were president, that's simply missing. you get the impression in this document that china's kind of a weak country posing a meek, mild
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challenge to us, and we have to stay the course and engage with them, and then things will turn out all right. i don't think that's president trump's view as he's expressed it in many, many speeches himself, lou. lou: yes, he has. and, by the way, those expressions are a major part of the reason he was elected president and, certainly, it is the foundation of expectations on the part of tens of millions of americans who believe greatly and passionately in this president in his capacity to assure the american destiny. michael pillsbury, it is always great to see you. we thank you for being with us, look forward to seeing you next time. on wall street stocks finishing slightly lower. the dow down 102 points, the s&p down 23, the nasdaq down 90. volume on the big board, 5.1 is billion shares. crude oil up another 1.a 5%. it's not zooming, but it's
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♪ ♪ lou: well, joining us tonight is john solomon, award-winning investigative reporter, editor-in-chief of "just the news." and ukraine again, the bidens again. [laughter] this time your thoughts about where we are in that collision between ukraine and the biden family. more corruption at least ostensibly. >> yeah. and really significant developments that indicate in two countries thousands of miles
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apart that the issue of joe biden and hunter biden is not going to go away. and here are those developments. in the last 48 hours, we learned and we reported at "just the news" that a ukrainian judge has ordered ukrainian law enforcement to list joe biden as the alleged perpetrator of a crime because he fired the ukrainian prosecutor, viktor shoken, at the time that viktor shoken was investigating burisma holdings, a company that hired hunter biden. so in ukraine, joe biden is now listed as the alleged perpetrator of a crime, and there's been an ordered investigation meaning ukrainian law enforcement now under court order must investigate joe biden's conduct and identify viktor shoken as a crime victim. and then in the united states senator ron johnson got the first mean that to start to drill -- subpoena to trillion into what happened at the state department and joe biden and hunter biden. two big developments in two
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countries thousands of miles apart. lou: and the videotape in which the then-vice president is bragging about getting the s.o.b. fired -- [laughter] that would be the same prosecutor, would it not? >> that is the one. remember, in 2018 joe biden with a friendly audience bragged that he threatened to withhold $1 billion of u.s. aid to ukraine unless the president of ukraine fired that prosecutor. at that very moment that threat was made, that prosecutor was escalating the criminal investigation against burisma holdings and making plans to interview hunter biden on why he got paid millions of dollars working for that company. lou: is it your sense, john, that we now are actually going to see real results? the ukrainian development, as you say, very important. and johnson is turning out to be quite a figure. this is a man who has, frankly, is more animated than i've ever
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seen him in his career and doing great things. your thoughts about both. >> well, first -- yeah, absolutely. he's got a great investigative staff, he's very passionate. he understands ukraine. he understands that the democrats used ukraine as a piggybank and political play ground, and i think he's going to release a report that shows the findings he has so far and then see hearings in the fall. we're going to learn a lot. lou: and one last question, and i can't let you go without talking about general flynn. [laughter] the order, sidney powell, the defense attorney for general flynn, saying this looks to her to mean that the appellate court is taking very seriously the fact that this district court judge, emmet sullivan, just basically decided to rise above law and thumbed his nose at the department of justice.
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the supreme court had ruled precisely on these points just a little over a week ago. >> well, judge sullivan has been called to the principal's office. the apell court is ordering him to answer what the heck are you doing. there's his chance. let's see what he tells the appellate court, but it sounds to me as if they're taking a much more assertive role here and is concerned by the conduct exhibited so far. lou: thank you very much. it's great to have you with us, john solomon. and it's justthenews.com. it's the news as far as i'm concerned. john solomon, appreciate it. stay with us, we're coming right back. ♪
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♪. lou: president trump today on the importance of reopening our economy. he was touring a ford production plant in michigan where they make masks and protective equipment. >> you have a lot of, unfortunately in this case democrat governors. i think they think it is good politics to keep it closed but what are they doing? they're hurting themselves. i don't think it is good politics. they're hurts themselves and hurting their state. it is not good. i think you will see pretty much people are going -- i think they're being forced to open. people will want to get out. you will break the country if you don't. lou: and tomorrow we'll be talking with peter navarro on the wuhan virus coverup.
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pastor robert jeffress on reopening america's churches and roger stone on the corrupt obama justice department and fbi. please join us for that and maria dagen: good morning. i'm dagen mcdowell, in for maria bartiromo. it's friday, may 22nd. your top stories 6:00 a.m. eastern. china moving to tighten the grip over hong kong, introducing legislation to crack down on protests, sending shock waves around the world. president trump promising a strong response if it's enacted. getting america back to work, lockdowns easing up across america and new york city eyeing an early june reopening. president trump says he will not shut down the economy again. treasury secretary steven mnuchin is saying there is a strong likelihood that more stimulus will be

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