to launch into space. 3:22 saturday. that is it for us. michael he pillsbury, john solomon will be our guests elizabeth: just a short time ago, what would have been an historic space mission, a rocket launch, postponed. about 20 minutes before launch from cape. canaveral, florida, due to bad weather. it is now rescheduled for this saturday. the president and the first lady will be in attendance on saturday. while this has been delayed, the age of space heroes with us again. america is again reaching for the stars. with us tonight, retired four star army general jack keane, former fbi deputy assistant director danny colvin, also gianna caldwell. we are tracking the global space

race, the new battlefield in space, also iran moving oil tankers, possibly military hardware and intelligence officials, also potentially officials with connections to hezbollah in venezuela. also tonight more joe biden mistakes and gaffes, but a warning for trump from republicans about battleground states. the dow closing above 25,000 for the first time in ten weeks. also tonight open political warfare in washington over renewing fisa surveillance powers for the intelligence community that were used on the trump campaign. also this breaking news, former deputy a.g. rod rosenstein is about to face the music. senator lindsey graham today announced his first hearing into the crossfire hurricane probe. plus, newly-revealed text messages between former senior

fbi officials who are at the heart of the botched fbi investigation into michael flynn, also the trump-russia probe. after reading them, security analysts are now asking, okay, how much did president barack obama know about these probeses? what influence was brought to bear on them in also tonight national border patrol council's president on mexico releasing new saw statistics showing border violence from drug cartels is exploding. and this, the new covid-19 epicenter is latin america. more daily cases there. that's happening now, more daily cases in latin america than in europe and the u.s. all those stories tonight. i'm elizabeth macdonald. "the evening edit" starts right now. ♪ ♪ elizabeth: thanks for joining us, you're watching the fox

business network. let's start with the spacex rocket launch. it was going to make historied today, the first time in miami years -- actual, two nasa astronauts would have launched from u.s. soil. it will make history when it does launch. the next launch date is this saturday. let's get right to retired u.s. army four-star general, general jack keane. so great to have you on again. this would have also have been the first private company with spacex involved. what was your reaction when you saw this happening with nasa and spacex in. >> >> well, that's actually historic in and of itself. i think this partnership is ideal moving forward. there's so much that the private sector is already doing in space and makes just a lot of sense to partner with the united states government. and it's wonderful to see the united states back into the space again with launching out of the united states. we'll wait, you're, three

days -- you know, three days. we're quite used to it now, you know, for an entire generation plus, the temperamental weather that we have in florida, you know, to be sure. but i think it's very significant, liz. i thought it was a huge strategic mistake on the part of the obama administration to back away from our space program and essentially shut it down after president bush had invested for five years in going back to the moon. i think it was a disappointing lack of imagination on the obama administration's part. i mean, here we have the oldest and most open democracy in the world that was leading the world in space exploration x that's who you want. the international community wants us to do that. why? because we have the right set of values to do that. we're doing it to benefit all mankind, not just the united states. we know, sadly at some point -- and it's coming very soon -- space will be very weaponized. and it's our adversaries who are

forcing us to do that. but this is about helping mankind in general, and we're on the right path here. it will be historic. we've got to go to the moon, and then we're going to go to mars, and that is the kind of imagination i think the american people will welcome. not to say of the huge international prestige and pride that comes with the united states leading in space exploration. elizabeth: you know, the president promised to reassert america's push back into space. he signed a nearly $740 billion defense spending bill back in december. it created a space force, a sixth branch of the apartmented forces. -- armed forces. he was roundly mocked and ridiculed. you're talking also about the vision looking up and out to the stars to broaden our heinzs and look -- horizons and basically create a new era of space heroes, right? nasa administrator jim bridenstine said we're launching

american astronauts and rockets from american soil, it's a pretty big deal. it's stunning and reassuring to americans during the time of the covid-19 pandemic. >> no doubt about it. probably more people will witness it than normal because we're sheltering down. even though it'll be a weekend. i've seep one of these launches myself years ago, you know, with humans in it, and i'll tell you what, it is a gripping experience. it's absolutely thrilling. i cannot imagine what it is like to sit on top of a rocket and be blown off a launch pad into space and the adrenaline that must be inside of our astronauts in doing that. [laughter] it is absolutely amazing. i give them so much credit for putting their life in the hands of literality hundreds of scientists and engineers when they sit there and anticipate that rocket burst lifting them off the launch pad. what a moment that is. and what a moment for america to

witness that event again. as we probably got a little used to it in the past. we got a whole new generation here that can get excited about space. and you're right, the space force has electrified young people's imagination in america. and some of that certainly -- elizabeth: yeah. >> -- developed years ago by hollywood and others in terms of the magic of it. but, yeah, this is harsh ready. we need -- reality. we need a space force to deal with our adversaries who fully intend to use space to bring harm to america. so this is cold-eyed military capability that we need to have. if. elizabeth: but you make a great point that, you know, america once flew nine crewed missions with astronauts to outer space. when jfk set hearts and minds alight, set them on fire with the vision of going into outer space and inspired, as you said,

electrified generations of children to come about being space heroes. it happened under richard nixon and then ensuing administration to lift us up out of our, you know, whatever milieu, whatever we're doing right now just to have that vision and imagination. and you're right, i think it does galvanize hearts and minds to step up and outside of ourselves to look to new horizons. right, general? >> yeah. we got into it, as a business proposition, the thought was the previous at manager did a cost benefit analysis, we had some setbacks, some horrific, tragic deaths, to be sure, and what's the cost of this. but we watched that same administration throw hundreds of billions of dollars to shovel-jobs that never materialized. it was a lack of imagination that drove that decision. not everything is dollars and cents. if it was dollars and cents, the united states as we know it

today, the explorers wouldn't have come here. they put themselves at risk to find this new world and the courage that they had to do something like that. this is america at its best, i've always believed, when we took on space as an exploration and succeeded so magnificently in doing it. it's good to see us back. elizabeth: general, it's great to have you back on the sew. we're going to see you later in the show, we're going to talk about what's going on with iran moving into venezuela, fuel, oil, possibly military hardware. hezbollah and hamas may be now active in venezuela. you're going to come back in just a sec. let's bring in former nasa astronaut jose hernandez. we're excited to have him on the show, mission specialist in the international space station where the falcon 9 was headed, also the first astronaut to come from a mexican immigrant family.

it's great to have you on. your reaction to rocket launch with two nasa astronauts, what was your first reaction when you saw this attempt at an incredible feat? >> first of all, good afternoon, liz, and thank you for having me here on your program. and, well, i know what the astronauts are going through because i, too, suffered a launch delay due to bad weather back in 2009 on sts-128 mission aboard space shuttle discovery. and i'll tell you, it is disappointing. but the running joke is, hey, you trained for so many years, you know, a two-day delay, three-day delay is not going to make much difference. and so -- elizabeth: yeah. >> what you do have though is you do have a lot of adrenaline, and it takes a while for you to come down once you get off the ship and say, hey, we have got toot id again on saturday -- to do it again on saturday. elizabeth: yeah.

you wonder how you're going to sleep for two more nights. elon musk praised the two heroes for, quote, nerves of steel, saying they were cool as a cucumber. now, they're both veteran space travelers. they basically are going to head to the international space station which you worked on. i mean, this crew crag gone capsule -- dragon capsule sits atop a million pounds of propellant, within three minutes hits supersonic speed, breaking through the sound barrier, breaking new the speed of sound. what was that like to travel like that? what was it like to be on the international space station? >> oh, man, it was great because, you know, you go from 0 miles per hour at t-minus 0 secs and 8.5 minutes later you're traveling over 17,a 500 miles an hour -- 17,500, experiencing 3gs of force. it's like a 500-pound gorilla

stepping on your chest, and then when you reach main engine cutoff, the 500-pound gorilla disappears, and now you're floating in space. it's the best e-ticket ride disney could ever hope for. [laughter] elizabeth: jose, tell us what it means to you for your family to immigrate into america from mexico? >> well, it's, you know, it's a great story. you know, i'm first generation american, i consider myself an american. i'm proud to say that. i was born in stockton, california, where i'm living here now. and we were a typical migrant, farm-working family. my family used to come and work nine months picking fruits and vegetables and go to their home state in central mexico for three months. during that time period, i was born here in california. we finally settled in california and due to this great education system we have here in the u.s., i was able to follow the american dream.

my father taught me that hard work and education is always a good combination, and that's what i, i put forth. and ever since i saw -- [inaudible] walk on the surface of the moon, i knew as a 10-year-old i wanted to be an astronaut. elizabeth: wow, and you did it, jose! thanks so much for coming on. it's great to have you on, sir. thanks for your service to the country. good to have you. okay, next up -- thank you so much. we're going to take you to what's going on now in the race for the white house. joe biden answering back, firing back at criticism that he's been hiding in a basement, but he's basically saying, yes, i have been, and it's working. he's also blaming the radio interview charl he main the god for saying black voters ain't black if they vote for trump. we're going to bring in analyst gianna caldwell to weigh in on the 2020 race. that's next, stay right there.

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prestaff worried about sharing sensitive information with the obama administration. strategic analysts are now asking does the concern in these text messages reflect their concern that a president barack obama had ill will and negative feelings toward michael flynn? was that the reason the investigation was kept open when the fbi wanted to shut it down? let's break all of this down with former fbi deputy assistant director danny coulson. first, your reaction about these text messages. what's your take on this? >> they shouldn't have been talking to him about a pending case anyway. and remember, the agents in the field said there's no case here, and strzok said, today them not to close it. what was that context? was it after the white house? before or during their contact with the white house? there's a lot of questions here. the fbi's not supposed to be a show and tell organization.

where you run up and say, look what we're doing. they were way off the reservation and should never have done that stuff anyway, so i have serious concerns about their behavior here and, of course, in other areas too. elizabeth: okay. let's go through the text messages that john solomon got. january 3, 2017, peter strzok texts lisa page saying william prestaff, like us, is concerned with oversharing, doesn't want jim clapper getting c.r. to the white house. just shows our hand and potentially makes enemies x. then it seems like peter strzok was referring to evidence into the investigation of michael flynn. she texts back, yeah, but keep in mind, we were going to put that in the documents on friday. then peter strzok texts back, the question is, should we particularly to the entirety of the lame duck u.s. intelligence community with partisan axes to

grind? it look like the comments that strzok is making just shows our hand, you know what i mean? it just seems like there's a big back story that the american voter is not seeing in what was going on with the fbi communicating with the obama white house. do you think that president barack obama wanted to keep the flynn case open, and when the fbi wanted to shut it down, he was the one who got flynn fired as his dni back in 2014. what do you think? >> what i think is follow the rules. the rules say the fbi does not talk about pending investigations. and there's no other reason to talk about that case except for politics. and they were way off the reservation. they were dead wrong, and they should have known better. elizabeth: you know, let's listen to attorney general william barr talk to cbs' katherine catherine herridge about how top officials in the obama administration, he says, were so

wedded to the narrative, so aligned and wedded to the narrative about trump-russia conspiracy and the probe into michael flynn that they drove everything to a preset conclusion. watch this. >> these are very smart people who were working in the special counsel's office and at senior levels of the fbi. so what drove them here? >> well, i think one of the things you have to guard against both as a prosecutor and i think as an investigator is that if you get too wedded to a particular outcome and you're pursuing a particular agenda, you close your eyes to anything that sort of doesn't fit with your preconception. and i think that's probably the phenomena we're looking at here. elizabeth: danny, your reaction is? >> totally agree. follow the evidence. don't come to a conclusion or some principle and then adapt the evidence to that. follow the evidence, let it take you where it goes, and then present it to a grand jury.

if you've got a case, you've got it. elizabeth: all right. danny coulson, we love having you on, come back soon. >> thanks, appreciate it. ♪ meth elizabeth okay. next up, gianna caldwell, fox news political analyst, on joe biden's latest big mistake. the story next. ♪ ♪ learn more at libertymutual.com/covid-19. [ piano playing ] unlike ordinary wmemory supplementsr? neuriva has clinically proven ingredients that fuel 5 indicators of brain performance. memory, focus, accuracy, learning, and concentration. try neuriva for 30 days and see the difference.

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elizabeth: we've got breaking news, a fox business alert. president trump just tweeting out, quote with: if that fisa bill is passed tonight on the house floor, the fisa reform bill, i quickly veto it. our country has just suffered new the greatest political crime in its history. the massive abuse of the fisa court was a big part of it. we're going to dig deeper into this coming up in just a bit with republican ben kline. he sits on house judiciary. let's get back to the 2020 race. here's biden answering back at criticism that he's been campaigning out of a basement. basically saying, yes, i am, and it's working. he's blaming the radio interviewer, carl he main the god, for biden's statement that biden voters ain't black if they vote for president trump. watch this. >> all this stuff about biden's hiding? well, you know, the fact of the

matter is, it's working pretty well. first of all, you know, i -- it was a mistake, number one, and i was smiling when he asked me the question. i was -- i shouldn't have been such a wise guy. he was being a wise guy, and i responded. i'm prepared to say that i have a record of over 40 years and that i'm going to beat joe biden. elizabeth: fox news political analyst and author i-januarying no -- i-january no caldwell. we should point out that the last joe biden clips, -- he actually said i'm going to be joe biden. we don't know if there's a misstatement or not. but what do you think of him, you know, sort of saying it's okay to be sort of campaigning out of a basement and pushing back on charl charlemagne the gn that interview? what was your reaction when you heard all that? >> you know what? it was bizarre to me that joe

biden chooses to continue lying and then placing blame on other people for his comments. joe, in my opinion, was not joking when he said if you don't vote for me, you ain't black. he was very serious s and how i know this is because this has been the internal messaging of the democratic party for decades. when i became a conservative many, many years ago, those were the same things i was told by members of the black community and otherwise. so for not one second do i believe that was a joke. i believe that was internal messaging coming out. and it's greatly disappointing that this guy is running for president of the united states, and this is the way that he thinks. elizabeth: you know, house majority whip jim clyburn said he cringed at joe biden's comments. and so here's the thing, gianno, the african-american voter has correctly selected who wins the presidency, the presidential winner, more than half the time since the 1990s.

so you're saying joe biden wasn't joking, this is just what is basically taken as the narrative inside the democrat party that maybe other americans don't even realize is going on, that your take? >> that's absolutely correct. many americans, i would say most white americans probably don't even know this, but african-americans have been the central ones to vote in those who would be the presumptive nominee for the democratic party since jesse jackson. and what's problematic for african-americans is african-americans continue to select democrats, they continue to be taken for granted and get nothing for their vote. and this is a hard lesson i think that african-americans have been learning for years, but they're really learning it this year. elizabeth: you know, since joe biden started running for president, he threatened to physically punch out another voter who questioned joe biden about his basically confusing position on gun rights, he also

called a voter fat and a liar, he challenged another voter to an iq test because that man a had the audacity to ask joe biden about his son's, the suspect conflicts of interest, suspected conflicts of interest working for a ukrainian gas company, sitting on the board of it. so, you know, you watch joe biden in action, he comes across as maybe overly angry and feisty. your take on that. >> yes, this is a problem. this isn't what we should be doing as americans, this isn't what joe biden should should beg if he says he's the better individual to win the presidency. it's incredibly unfortunate, and this is where we are, and this is what democrats are going to have to deal with. elizabeth: gianno, let's switch gears here. i would like to get your reaction to the death of george floyd in minneapolis. he died after being detained by police officers. video shows george floyd on the

ground, an officer kneeling on him, floyd saying he can't wreath, he later -- breathe, he later died. the fbi's investigating. the mayor is now calling for that dismissed officer to be arrested. your reaction to this story? >> you know, this is a really tough one for me, liz, and i say that because for so many african-americans being black feel like a curse. and i say that because before you know my name, the content of my character, before you know my moral compass, i'm already considered a threat to so many americans. whether that be while you walk your dog through the park, while i'm jogging down the street or while you have my knee on my neck and i'm screaming i can't breathe. this is a problem in this country, and i think for many people they're looking for accountability from law enforcement, and their looking for -- they're looking for everyone to come together as a country so we can solve this major issue of racism in this

country. elizabeth: january know, we love -- i hear you. we love having you on. will you come back soon? >> please, absolutely, i'd love to. thank you so much for this opportunity. elizabeth: sure. we love your insights and perspectives. gianno callwell, great writer. there is clear evidence of iran rapidly increasing its presences in venezuela. venezuela is now in economic collapse due to the communist dictatorship here. nicolas maduro welcomed the arrival of the first of five iranian tankers shipping oil to venezuela. venezuela is an opec member nation, they're bringing -- we're bringing back jack keane. he's going to come back with us to talk about this story. that's coming up next, stay there. can my side be firm?

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♪ ♪ elizabeth: welcome back. there is now clear evidence that iran is rapidly increasing its

presence in venezuela. venezuela is in an economic collapse. communist dictator nick cat a maduro -- nicolas maduro has welcomed the arrival of the first of five iranian oil tanker thes shipping oil to venezuela. that happened yesterday. now the fear is the presence of hezbollah and hamas operatives may be coming into venezuela as well. let's welcome back are retired four-star army general jack keane. venezuela is paying iran reportedly hundreds of millions in. gold bouillon here. what's your take here? >> cleary, iranian -- clearly, iranians and venezuela have been linked at the help for some time, and certainly russia, china and cuba are helping maduro as we all know as well. listen, we have sanctioned iran, and we have sanctioned venezuela. and the principal commodity involved in both of these

countries that we're sanctioning is oil. so for the life of me, i don't know why over a year ago when we were really cracking down hard on the maduro regime that we didn't establish a blockade to stop commodities that are going to benefit the regime but yet let humanitarian relief -- medicines and food -- through. and that should have been our policy. we wouldn't be dealing with this reality that's taking place today. that would have impacted both iran as well as venezuela. now, so our audience understands, iran is only exporting about 10% of what their daily barrel production rate has been as a result of the sanctions. so those sanctions have been largely very successful. i don't want to diminish the impact of those. but i don't think the sanctions on maduro have been quite as successful as they have been on

iran, and this is a way to stop them w a block with decade. now, international community recognizes it as an act of war, but the united states would be using it in a very limit role here. nonetheless, if you're going to do it, it's 24/7, and it's going to us -- to cost us resources, certainly. elizabeth: general, correct me if i'm wrong, are u.s. navy ships now deployed to the region, and could there be preserving option of a blockade or intercepting the tankers? will the u.s. act to do that as you suggest? >> i don't know. that's a decision the president would make on the advice of his military a commanders and also s economic advisers in terms of what is the impact on maduro's regime.i i mean, the thing that we -- one of the objectives we have to have here is the reason why maduro has stayed in power despite all of the property stations inside -- protestations

inside the country and out is because his military t is still loyal to him. and, obviously, he's putting money in the back pockets of those leaders x. also the russians and the cubans have been very significant in propping up the maduro regime. i do believe to -- elizabeth: are you worried about -- are you worried -- yeah, go ahead. >> no, go ahead. you go ahead. elizabeth: are you worried about hezbollah and hamas coming into venezuela in an even bigger way? >> with well, they've been, they've been in south america for over ten years now. certainly that would add to the challenges there. but they're already significant. i mean, there's ten of thousands of cuban paramilitary there. there's some of the best of russian privatized military firms in this propping up and providing security for maduro personally. so this would, yes, it would add to the challenge of the problem. but in and of itself, it

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♪ ♪ elizabeth: more on the president's tweet that we toll you about just a few minutes ago. quote: if that nices saw reform bill is passed tonight on the house floor, i will quickly veto it. our country has just suffered through the greatest political crime in its history. the massive abuse of fisa was a big part of it. he has urged house republicans to vote against this version of the fisa reform act. again, fisa was the surveillance tool, the fisa court, the fbi used and is accused of abusing in order to wiretap the trump campaign including former trump campaign aide carter page. let's bring in republican from virginia, congressman ben kline.

congressman, it's great to have you back on. your reaction to the president's veto threat here. >> well, i think he's right on target. i think that the nices saw saw process was abused, it needs significant reforms. he's leveraging what is a small foform in the reauthorization of this section of the bill to leverage it for more reforms, and and he needs to do that, and i sport him in that -- support him in that effort. elizabeth: you know, what is behind this is the dod i.g. finding 17 merle to omissions and errors in the fbi's fisa wiretap applications to the fire saw court. you know -- fisa court. the fbi doctored and altered evidence like e-mails kept hidden -- they hid from the nices saw court exculpatory evidence that would basically be more positive about carter page and that he was not a russian agent. they hid from the fisa court major evidence about the

dossier. the cia called it just an internet rumor. the president is really angry about this. the republicans feel that the american people have not understood or gotten the story about this. your reaction to that. >> i think this is just the tip of the iceberg when you're talking about the steele dossier and the horowitz report did reveal that there were significant problems in the fisa process. additional investigations have proven, are shown that there are additional problems that need investigating. so we're going to have assistant attorney general durham coming out with a report later this summer. hopefully e that's going to give the whole story about what happened in the 2016 campaign. and then we're going to have rod rosenstein before senate judiciary this week or next nweek. elizabeth: yeah, that's next week. that's right. i want to you to watch the media on this, because the steele dossier has russian

misinformation in it. watch. >> mueller is now connecting the dot between a massive obstruction intended to hide the truth. >> we're about to find out if the new president of our country is going to do what russia wants. >> this president needs to be impeachedded. i believe that, i believe there was collusion. >> donald trump's done. er's done. there's no question about it. >> he's got to know his future looks like it's behind bars. we have a treasonous president. elizabeth: congressman, your take on what you just heard the media reporting over the last few years on the trump-russia probe given what we know now about the steele dossier and more. >> what we know now is that the media was being fed or certain individuals at "the washington post" and other sources were being given information from individuals like jim comey who were trying to create a

narrative about the steele dossier and the validity of the fsteele dossier when really thee was nothing to it in terms of factual basis to proceed with the investigation. they determined the investigation should have been closed at the end of the obama administration, but comey and others pushed to have it continued and kept open. elizabeth: congressman ben cline, thank you so much for joining us. come back soon. >> absolutely, thanks. elizabeth: great. coming up, national border patrol con sill art dell quaid doe with back is us, new specificsxi showing border violence from drug cartels exploding despite covid lockdown measures. and now this, latin america is the new covid epicenter for the world. that story next. ♪ ♪ think of people in a place. but when you have the chase mobile app, your bank can be virtually any place.

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♪ ♪ elizabeth: okay, we've got more breaking news. brthe president just tweeting again, this time on the george floyd case in minneapolis. again, george floyd died after being detained by four police officers. the president is now tweeting that he will push the fbi to

get -- at his request, the doj and fbi, he's going to get them already well into an investigation. he's saying it's sad about the death in minnesota of george floyd. he's asked for this atvestigation to be expedited. he greatly appreciates all of the work done by local law enforcement, andnd his heart gos out to george's family and friends. he's saying justice will be served. let's take you to the border. mexico releasing new statistics showing border violence from drug car sells exploding -- cartels e exploding. let's welcome national border control council's vice president. art, we're seeing the imagely are of shootouts taking place just south of the u.s. border from the santa ana -- in the santa ana wildlife refuge and more. what's going on there? what's happening? >> well, honestly, liz, first off, thank you for having me on. but these criminals, they don't care what else is going on. they play by different rules,

obviously. it's just as violent as it always has been. it's been nonstop. and unfortunately, we see some of that violence, you know, potentially coming across into the united states. just about a month ago there was a breach from some of the mexican authorities into the united states. that's something that, you know, i don't think has been reported or has been talked about, i shouldke say. and at the same time, you know, the men and women that are out there protecting our nation's borders, they're arresting criminals in the united states, individuals that are smuggling drugs or smuggling humans into theum country, and they're havig a hard time with our own authorities prosecuting them. so that's something i think that, you know, the doj has to look into also. and aye talked to a hot -- i've talked to a lot of the agents, and some of these stories are as simple as, you know, catching individuals with various people in the trunk that they're smuggling into the u.s. they have the evidence, they have the individual that's doing

the smuggling admitting that they're doing it, and they're not getting prosecuted in the united states either. elizabeth: yeah, okay. well, how -- let me back up. first of all, you said that, i think you said there was a breach by mexico into the u.s. involving something to do with the drug cartels. are the drug cartels taking advantage of the chaos of covid-19? because now the w.h.o. saying latin america the new global epicenter, more daily cases than the u.s. and europe. are the drug cartels taking advantage of this, and why do you say u.s. authorities are not responding right now to what's going on? >> well, i think there's various things i'm talking about, right? obviously, the drug violence in mexico has not stopped. they, they don't care about the covid-19. they want to get their product across and make money. when it comes to the breach, there is obviously cartels that are constantly coming in and bringing drugs into the united states. there was mexican authorities

that accidentally come into the united states a couple of weeks ago. the media, i don't think, reported anything about that. now on a separate note, the united states border patrol agents are out there arresting individuals for committing crimes such as smug something introducing drugs, and they're having a hard time with our own authorities through the ausa, the u.s. attorneys, in prosecuting the individuals that border patrol agents are arresting right now. and it's all because of this covid-19. they don't want to maintain some of the witnesses and perhaps are them helde in some of our cells. but it sends the wrong message, id what is actually happening is, you know, the criminals are aware of that, so they exploit that. and, you know, it doesn't stop the crime ame because if you dot is have any consequences, obviously, the criminal's going to continue doing the crime. elizabeth: okay. stay on that. quickly, with we onlyck is have ten seconds. we have 68,000 prisoners released from u.s. prisons according to ucla.

that's what they're tracking in all 50 states. now you're saying the courts that are supposed to be prosecuting drug cases and border violence and border cases, it's covid-19, it's swamping these courts, and our border courts are under duress now from covid-19 and drug cartels who are taking advantage of it. is that what you're saying, art? >> liz, i wouldn't even think they are swamped. i would justt say because of the precautions, because of the paranoia with covid-19, these cases are not even being presented, and that's the problem. elizabeth: art, thank you for breaking that down. you brought us news. thank you so much for you service to our country. we hope you come back soon. thanks again. okay, that does it for us. i'm elizabeth macdonald, you've been watching "thech evening edit" on fox business. thank you so much for watching. we hope you have a good evening and come back tomorrow night. thanks again. ♪ ♪

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