map part of their operation. that implies we're up and about all over again. target, target, literally of some of the riots, six of their stores are closed indefinitely. the stock is down 2.25%. time is up, david asman, in for neil. david: imagine what the markets would be like without the riots. i'm david asman in for neil cavuto and this is "coast to coast." president trump having a teleconference with local leaders and law enforcement as pros testers take to the streets again one week after george floyd's death. fox business's grady trimble has the latest. reporter: good morning, david, or good afternoon i should say.

in chicago some ways this was very specific in the wicker park neighborhood. they're hitting liquor stores and salons, getting bottles of shampoo. hitting clothing stories. other ways it is very indiscriminate. they are hitting small business and you can see they hit the target which is now being boarded up as we speak. it is about cleaning up, boarding up buildings that have been hit. boarding up other buildings to prevent this from happening again. i want to show you video from over the weekend. what happened here in chicago, they shut down public transit into the downtown areas where we saw protested on saturday night. they shut down main arteries into the downtown area. as a result of that, the protests and looting became more scattered. they hit suburbs and south side. where we are outside of the downtown city center in "wicker park." i talked to a small business owner not far from here. she was getting ready to reopen

the clothing retail space on june third. because of this it is delayed. listen. >> just devastating for us owners. so, i mean, just, stop, stop. >> i think there is definitely a difference between protesting peacefully and just rioting. i think that is what happened here. they're just found an excuse to riot here and came in and took what they wanted. reporter: across the street there is another liquor store boarded up. hard to tell if the people were able to get into that one or not but we were just at another one about a block from here that was hit. despite the curfew, destate the restriction on travel into the city, david, mayor lori lightfoot saying this was the most violent weekend in terms of deaths and shootings in chicago for 2020. and she said that the violence, and looting just spread like

wildfire f there was department three times size of chicago pd they won't be able to contain it. unclear what to expect for tonight after several nights of this in a row. david? david: what's incredible, they were just preparing to open up and now you see them putting the planks up, just as they were getting ready to open up. i mean what these people go through. it shows you the determine nation and grit of america's business to try to stay in business no matter what happens to them. grady, thank you very much. appreciate it. president trump meeting with some of the nation's governors and law enforcement officials today to discuss community safety. fox business's blake burman has latest on that. high, blake. reporter: president trump speaking with those governors, law enforcement officials, national security experts in the situation room earlier this morning. there was another meeting of importance as well. that is a place in the oval office, scheduled at least with the attorney general bill barr. here is why that meeting is so

important because the president has been focusing his attention on antifa. violent protesters, often from the far left who he believes the core of destruction and vandalism spawned from some protests nationwide. now the president said u.s. would be designating antifa, which stands for antifascism as a terrorist organization. back to the attorney general because over the weekend he said the joint terrorism task force would be used to quote, identify criminal organizers and instigators, further writing, the violence instigated and carried out by an testify -- antifa and other groups is domestic terrorism and treated accordingly. caylee mcdonald pushed back on the notion, that president trump is focusing too much on antifa. >> i don't think so. look, when you look at the twitter feed of antifa, you see that they are directing some of this. when you look at the horrific

graffiti i see in the streets, it is about overturning capitalism and really crude messages, they are certainly behind this. ag barr has mentioned to that effect. reporter: however there are also many within the legal community who will make the case there is no provision in the law for the federal government to declare a domestic group as a terrorist organization. for example, the aclu saying in a statement, quote, there is no legal authority for designating a domestic group. any such designation would raise significant due process and first amendment concerns. so you have those meetings earlier this morning, david, looking forward. cale h kayleigh mcenany the white house press secretary will have a briefing 2:00 this afternoon from the white house. it still remains to be seen whether or not, david, president trump will give an oval office address to talk about exactly what has been going on within this country, what we've seen over the last handful of days.

mack mcdonald enmain other official said everything is on the table. david: speak about it saturday watching the space launch. a pretty reasoned argument he laid out there, blake. thank you very much, i appreciate it. while the focus on protesters clashing with police, a different scene in southern new jersey. camden county police joined protest lines with demonstrators. camden county police chief joe wysoki now. chief, did the show of solidarity you had there prevent rioting we've seen elsewhere? >> i can't say it did, i can't say it didn't but i can say the tensions are very high. i think across the country but i can really only focus here on the city of camden. people are upset what they're seeing in minnesota. actions of bad police officers

in another jurisdiction that we have seen with george floyd. the, are felt by every cop in all parts of the country. so people are upset and they're upset at the uniform but, i think, i asked my officers if they escalate situations on a daily basis, this was my turn to try to de-escalate the situation. i think we were able to lower tensions a little bit. we're together. we're one community. it is not us versus the community. it is, we're part of the community. have you seen any of the outside agitators that the mayor of new york city, for example, was talking about yesterday or mayor of minneapolis was talking about? >> we, we haven't seen that here in camden. our protests that we had on saturday, it was local. which i'm, i'm very thankful for that but what we are seeing on social media is, we're seeing

people that are not from here putting stuff up for there to be protests around the city of camden but not in the city of camden in particular. david: have there been instances where the peaceful processes that you and your fellow officers were actually a part of flipped and turned violent? >> i have not seen any in camden. everything has been very peaceful to this point. david: good. what is the morale of your fellow police officers? >> i had an officer actually send me a message last night. it is really high and he actually thanked me for marching and, he said me doing the peace symbol, not something i normally do, i say that the residents, people are driving by in cars, yelling out to officers, giving the peace symbol and officers giving it back. so it is a, i think the relationship, i think message that we're with the community is being heard. david: i live in new york.

i have lived here for 40 years. i've seen the good times and bad times. when i came the violence was through the roof. we cut that back dramatically during the '90s and early 2000s. now it is going back up again. i see a lot of cops here in new york who look down, they look like they have been through the wringer and i wonder how it is going to be when you try to recruit new officers to join the police force. that is going to be a tough sell, isn't it? >> it, you have to have people that live in your community become police officers. there has to be trust. you can't just tomorrow start to try to reach out to people to ask them to be a cop. they have to get to know you. there has to be a process. we're connecting with the youth on a daily basis. we're doing pop up barbecues throughout, throughout the city and we're talking to residents and we want to see them in a, not when they're calling for help when they dial 911. we want to see them in a

positive setting. i think that will help with the recruitment efforts. we've been doing that the last seven years. david: that is a terrific attitude. i grew up with the boys club and we had a close relationship with the local police officials there. a lot of those members of the boys club my age became cops. so that really works wonders to work with kid that way. my hat's off to you. they're doing the same in flint, michigan. this may be a way to disarm the radicals trying to take advantage of this situation. again, congratulations for your work, chief. i hope it continues? >> thank you, i appreciate you having me on. david: thank you very much, from camden, new jersey, chief joe wysoki, an amazing man. restaurants already struggling with the coronavirus shutdowns face the prospects of a lot offing and violence. apple in metro chairman, ceo, personal friend of mine, zane

tankel. you have grown quite a beard, that is signs of sheltering in place i guess. have your businesses been attacked by any of these looters? >> no, david, they have note. although we have had very peaceful protests literally right in front of our restaurant, for example. bed-sty restoration center we have a restaurant. in fact there is one scheduled today for 3:00 smack in front of our restaurant. it has been orderly. it has been, what it is supposed to be, which is a protest. what we're seeing are not protests. everybody is afraid to use the word. they're riots, they're clearly riots. in fact from some of our restaurants, someone sent me a candid video of someone painting on a building in brooklyn blm. and a woman of color said, hey, hey, what are you doing? because the girl doing it was white. that's not us. we're going to get blamed.

we're helping you. we're helping you. then ran off into the crowd. that is the pic. one of our people sent it to me. it was videoed by her, very amateurish. that says it all. david: sure does. you have seen that all over. you have can only do it anecdotally looking at the film that people have but you can see a lot of agitators seem to be not people of color, not people of the neighborhood. they do seem to be outsiders but, i just want to get to the business of opening up because just as, you and i have been sharing emails how you open up, particularly the restaurant business, it is terribly tough. what you guys in hospitality are going through is the worst in terms of trying to reorganize all of your operations because of the virus, just as you were planning this, now you have to plan to shut down or at least put blockades on the windows and such. how much of that are you doing

to prevent something bad from happening before it does? >> well we're not very frankly because we're in the neighborhoods. our staff are from the neighborhoods. like what your previous guest said about getting policing from the neighborhoods. we just have to hire police officers from the neighborhood. what we happen, as you well know, thank you, dived, we are close friends. i didn't know you wanted the world to know that. david: it is my honor and pleasure to have the world know that. >> most people, most people that i know are embarrassed to say that, thank you. david: no. >> we have been exchanging emails throughout all this time. the reality is, as you well know we do hire from the neighborhoods. david: yes. >> they are people from the neighborhoods. i think that has a lot to do with it. yesterday when there was a protest in bed-asty, they emailed me and i said close. we're only doing.

that is one of the restaurants closed. there are people come inside. let them see what is going on outside in the windows. let the outside see from the inside. when you are from the neighborhood you have a lot more at traction when you come outside of the neighborhood i think. david: exactly. what is extraordinary how the people behind the violence don't consider at all the effect this is going to have on the people who are living in the communities that are burning down. i mean, the, arrogance and self-centeredness of that attitude from these people who claim to care about the working poor, et cetera, when the working poor, are the ones being hurt the most. in fact, your relationship with the people who are working for you and in your stores clearly is going to help again like the police chief we had on before to quell the violence, no? >> i would like to think that's true, david. you know it is classical, it may have been on fox, but i remember so well going back to ferguson

when they burned down the only cvs in the neighborhood and -- [inaudible]. david: keep going. >> can you hear me? david: yeah. >> okay. elderly gentleman came in and looked around at a burned down store, said, now where do i get my prescription drugs? i think is a says it all. but you know, the restaurant industry, restaurant people by nature are resilient, tenacious and, adventerous. you don't open a restaurant and even though we're applebee's and have a bunch of them, you don't do that unless you're ready for a great adventure. david: i have to wrap it up. never give up could be a phrase use the by win ton churchhill but a phrase you could have invented as well. sane tankel, you're a great man -- zane tankel. >> thank you, david. david: is trade deal in

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were just about to be redecorated for the opening after the coronavirus shutdown, now they're putting up wooden boards over those windows because of the looting, really decimate ad lot of small businesses who may not recover from what happened. now governor andrew cuomo as you can see on the left of the screen says he will talk with new york city mayor de blasio about a possible curfew for new york city. no way of knowing how they intend to enforce that curfew if indeed they have one. but as you can see the streets of new york, kind of pathetic to suggest this is improvement on the right side. that is six of this avenue, right in front much our building at 1211 of the avenue of americas. there is more traffic as they have been in weeks past as things try to open up despite the coronavirus lockdown and despite looting, violence across the nation. we are game, we are game for opening here. china is firing back at the

u.s. reportedly telling state-owned firms to halt purchases of american soybeans and pork here is kaltbaum capital management president gary kaltbaum. good to see you, gary. that is extraordinary. forget the news alone, forget about the looting, forget about the coronavirus, just this news alone would usually be enough to send the markets into a dive. you add the other things, a deep dive, look what is happening at the bottom right of your screen. the market is up about 70 points now. why? >> a year ago we would be down 500 points. i just think that, this may sound crazy, david, we're in a sweet spot for the stock market. we've been rallying up strong. technology mass has been strong and most important part of equation, opening up of trade bottomed two weeks ago. we're taking airlines, cruise lines, financials, commodities, oils and the like. that is like 80% of the market and once markets do get going it

is very tough to take them down and that's what you're seeing. pullbacks lasted one or two days. we have a couple of harsh bullbacks but they were bought up quickly, but until the dynamic changes, the money is in there right now and sellers are having a tough time. david: gary, i'm thinking of small businesses particularly ones taken bryant of vie -- brunt of the rioting. let's hope we get a handle on things. if we don't, eventually that will spill over into the stock market. a lot of those companies in the stock market depend on small businesses to buy their purchases or to sell their purchases. so it can eventually spill into the stock market can, right? >> fundamentals will always ultimately count. when you have 30 million of these small businesses out there making up 99% of all businesses, it is very important but when

you're seeing right now in the markets, companies that stayed open throughout the whole pandemic, like home depot and lowe's at new all-time highs. so you're seeing some of that and unfortunately the small businesses, they're racked with pain right now and what you're seeing with the riots right now does not help the, just hurts the equation going forward. david: particularly, particularly in the beginning, we may have turned a corner on this, but in the beginning the local authorities seemed to on the whole throwing up their hands, letting a lot of these rioters go wild. now they're trying to pull them back. president trump, by the way, just reportedly told u.s. governors on a call they have to dominate and arrest people who are doing this business. he told that to cbs news. what do you think the effect will be? do you think we can -- is it too late or can we get a handle on what is happening in the chaos around the nation? >> oh, i can promise you we're

going to get a handle. i think the hammer is going to be put down because these people are breaking the laws and destroying property. grand theft, you name it. there comes a point in time where the authorities which by the way, the number one job is to protect the citizenry and the community have got to get the job done. i think you're starting to see it last night. i think it is going, you're going to see more, plentiful authorities as we move forward in the last few days. by the way, i have to mention one other thing about the opening up. you showed avenue of the americas. two weeks ago there were no cars on that road. david: yes, i know. >> i'm watching fox business all day. now you see that definitely is opening up and that is good news going forward. every day is a better day as we hopefully continue to get away from the pandemic. david: that optimism is another reason why you see the green on the bottom of your screen. gary kaltbaum, owls optimistic, good to talk to you my friend, thank you very much.

coming up, why dr. alveda king says now is the time for leadership to step up and unite our country. dr. alveda king joins us next.

♪. david: minneapolis has gone from total anarchy on thursday and friday to an appearance of control as security is ramping up across the city. matt finn with the latest from minneapolis. matt. reporter: david we ban to show you the aftermath an extent of damage. this wells fargo bank one ever countless structures torched. drive-through atm, the smoke damage. there was a car lit up, since been removed. the main wells fargo bank itself, windows mashed in. roof caved in from the fires. across the street is the fifth precinct building.

this, police precinct was so heavily targeted, you can see ground level. there are two layers of fencing to try to prevent looters from getting inside. after rioters burned down the third precinct they headed here but fortunately law enforcement was able to fend off the looters from getting inside. up top of the roof right now there are armed national guard still up there. you might not see the soldiers right now, because at some points they're taking cover. there are still armed national guard up there protecting that building. last night was another chaotic night. police arrested at least 150 people here who blatantly disregarded the curfew here. the law enforcement said that they got innovative and switched their tactic to rapidly stop crime. they're revealing much more information how shockingly violent the riots were here, discovering cars, driving around without license plates, with tinted windows. they had guns and rocks inside. whoever those drivers were, were driving to facilitate the riots.

the governor was asked repeatedly if his law enforcement, the national guard was too little too late? the third precinct here was burned last thursday. the governor said that he felt like the situation was too raw between law enforcement and community to immediately send out reinforced troops. it looked like that might have been the wrong decision. he said there were some failures here in minneapolis. david. david: matt finn, terrible situation there, thank you very much much. let's hope they get a handle on it. retailers already hit hard by three months of a coronavirus shutdown were hit again with these violent protests. major companies set to close locations across the nation. jackie deangelis has more on what retail companies are trying to do. hi, jackie. reporter: good afternoon to you, david. as wall street was gearing up for the reopening of the american economy, civil unrest across the country as companies closing stores instead of getting back to business. look at this aerial yesterday. we talked about target last

week. forced to close stores in minneapolis over the weekend. the chain closing or reducing hours at 200 stores nationwide. then in fact six stores across five states are closed until further notice. target has said safety is its number one priority, and closing is the best way to achieve that right now. think of whole foods. the supermarket is temporarily closing stores and adjusting store hours. the stores near l.a., minneapolis and chicago are all closed. amazon, the owner of whole foods is shutting down some of its hubs because of protests and scaling back deliveries. think about it this way, walmart closing hundreds of stores nationwide, emphasizing safety as the most important issue right now. target, amazon, whole goods, walmart, this isn't just getting back to business. these are businesses that have gone above and beyond while everything else was closed during the pandemic, to make sure that people had what they needed, now they're facing

further challenges it is frustrating from a business standpoint but also an issue for consumer needs. then there is apple. many of its store reopenings will be delayed. pictures of looting in some parts of the country and damaged apple and target stores, as well as many others, very vivid in terms of reminder what is happening at the moment. apple has just under 300 stores across the country. half were closed because of the pandemic. the company started reopening 100 stores last week. take a look at this picture of the apple store on fifth avenue. scaffolding going around that glass square there, to protect it in case people try to break or destroy it. finally, minneapolis, the mall of america was supposed to reopen today. it will not have curbside pickup. it is not going to open right now. these are just some of the major companies hit by this. they are so big and are better equipped to endure this, david. countless small businesses we've been telling their stories all

day, whose opening plans being derailed as well. this is really tough time. david: it is small ones i worry most about. jackie, thank you very much. in the midst of violence and chaos there are still messengers of peace and unity. the neas of dr. martin luther king, jr., alveda king writing in a new fox news op-ed, quote, as riots spread across the u.s., heed my words of my uncle martin luther king to end violence and racism. dr. alveda king joins me now. dr. king, great to see you. god bless your words of thoughts and prayers of peace. i have to mention, there is one phrase that your uncle used that i think, i know you think is being taken out of context. he said, and i'm quoting, violence is the language of the unheard. a lot of those who are on the side of violence in what's happening are using those words to try to justify violence. what do you say to them? >> violence is never justified.

violence begets violence. the prophet martin luther king, jr. understood that very well. that's why in that same talk when he said violence is a language of the unheard, he said, however, [inaudible] by say staying with non-violence, leaders can convince the fearful, the tearful and the angry not to fear, not to panic but to listen and work together to resolve situations. martin luther king, jr. was also a prove fest, a man of odd god, he didn't worship government, america but he worshiped god. as a christian leader, we have to see more leaders, not just christians, people of faith, people of faith, i'm a christian, jesus is my lord, people of faith who are not fearful, tearful or hateful. you can be angry and not be hateful. we must get out among the people

and assure the people as martin luther king, jr. did during his lifetime that non-violence is the answer. david: yeah. of course one of the ironies his murders, his death unleashed a kind of frenzy similar to the one that we're seeing now after the death and many say the murder of george floyd. i happen to live in washington, d.c. at the time which was hit very hard by the similar kind of riots. it took decades to recover from that. is it going to take that long again to recover what we're, from what we're going through now? >> i believe that if people pray and have faith in god and love, it won't take so long. my father, reverend ab king, in the 1960s when our home in birmingham, alabama had been bombed, stood own a car, said to the masses, there were outside agitators turning over cars and little molotov cocktails, he said, wait a minute, wait a

minute, if you have to hit somebody hit me, i would rather you hit me. but i would rather you go home. my family and i are safe. go home and pray. the mayor of after the atlanta, i live in the atlanta area, sheep was a calmest voice, i can't protect you out there, go home. rioters, guess what? they went home at that moment. went home. but i do want to warn against people who just only martial law, show force, take the flag. we can defend ourselves, use the wonderful national guard and all of that but there must be compassion throughout the whole process. we're praying for george floyd, his family. i've been following that and praying. it is a very tender and compassionate matter for his family to say you killed him, people still don't burn up the stores. don't kill each other. don't hurt each other. david: alveda, they're giving me a wrap and you know how that

works but i just have to ask a final question. i have never known you to believe that in less than optimistic future. you do believe in the end god is good and good will over come evil. it is hard for some of those hard-hit centers of this chaos to react that way but, what would you tell them? >> love never fails. justice and righteousness rise up together. we must be peaceful. there must be peace while we work to achieve justice together. we are not color-blind. there is no race dividing by skin color. there is one human race. martin luther king, jr. said we may have come on different ships but we're in this boat together. so let's work it out and we can do that together. david: you were well-raised alveda. those are great words. we hope people take them seriously. great to see you again. thank you very much for coming in today. appreciate it.

>> thank you. david: more talk of more stimulus on capitol hill but how much more can we take? how much more of this money printing will eventually hurt all of us? details after the break. ♪ ♪

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began my morning call my sources at the big banks in the lobbying department that gauges what congress is doing and the initial reaction from them when they started making their calls, there is now after the weekend, and it was a rough weekend, there is now a growing bipartisan support for additional stimulus. and again that stimulus could largely mean that nancy pelosi want a trillion for state governments. what they're saying she will get something. it will have a billion on it. it could be as high as 650 billion. david: whoof. >> there is talk of money going to states following the looting. again it was out there because of the economic impact of the pandemic shutdowns but this is making it even worse because as you know this is, these looting and this rioting is hurting businesses across the country in about every major state with big cities being affected. again, he, it is, mcconnell

has to agree, the senate majority leader but also, sources i'm talking to are very plugged in with the republicans. he is probably going to agree to something. what the democrats will give in return, maybe some degree of liability protection for companies that start reopening. do they get protected from being sued if their employees get the coronavirus. also another thing on there is more paychecks could be on the way for americans. that that is also talked about today. that you know, there could be an additional, remember, people were given or families given i believe $1000 or more paychecks that could come, that is something else that is on the table. we should point out on wednesday the senate is, and congress is likely to ease some of the rules on the ppp loans. so that is on top of what you're hearing now. david: okay. >> bipartisan, talk now is stimulus. before the recess, could be big

numbers and it could be heavily skewed or largely skewed to state governments. back to you. david: charlie, got a question quickly. >> yeah. david: they say they are going to try to limit if the money goes out to the states and cities, prevent any money paying off the pension funds which is the big problem for most, but you and i know money is fungible. you can say mo money going to the pension funds. they can figure out ways to get there, can't they. >> yes. just so you know, david, one thing i left out of my report, thank you for bringing it up as astutely you are, i hear there will be less strings attached to this money. this money will be allowed to have various uses. you're right, it is all fungible. there was a lot of talk among republicans to say no money used for this. just for certain economic development. but i hear there is going to be less handcuffs on this if it does, if and when it does

happen. that is the initial word. we're still weeks away and they haven't passed anything yet. that is i guess the quick analysis post-weekend rioting. david: charlie gasparino, the only one who has the story in america today. charlie, good stuff. >> thank you. david: supporters of violent protest not always facing censorship on twitter. is social media on a slippery slope? introducing new voltaren arthritis pain gel, the first and only full prescription strength non-steroidal anti-inflammatory gel available over-the-counter. new voltaren is powerful arthritis pain relief in a gel. voltaren. the joy of movement.

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david: new reports out that the fcc is looking to crack down on social media companies after the president's executive order last week. edward lawrence with the details. reporter: david, right now within the commerce department, the agency there is working on recommendations possibly to make changes to section 230 and the communications decency act. this section gives immunity to some social media platforms based on what is posted on their platforms. now the commerce department will give the recommendations to the fcc. now there is growing divide within the fcc about what to do, related to the president's push to sort of regulate some of these social media companies. in fact commissioner jessica

warsaw says the executive order president signed to turn the fcc into the president's speech police. on twitter calling people to speak up against the first amendment. commissioner brent can carr saying, basically if you engage in bad faith takedowns you do not get bonus protections of immunity. adding twitter is punishing twitter whether they approve or disapprove politics. commissioner michael riley says the president has every right to seek review of the statute. the ftc, the federal trade commission is also looking into this if this is a fair business environment. in a statement a spokesperson there said the ftc is committed to robust enforcement of consumer protection and competition laws including with respect to social media platforms and consistent with our jurisdictional authority and constitutional limitations. president's last week executive order aimed at social media companies at immunity immune

from things posted on their site. twitter justified the fact check on president's tweets, getting criticism for retweeting the mayor of st. paul who said erroneously on saturday, that everyone was arrested was from out-of-state. that is walked back by the mayor of st. paul. wait a minute, some say, if you do one, you do the other. it opened the box, david, what should happen and shouldn't happen related to speech on these platforms. david: a lot of inconsistencies, edward, thank you very much. there are a lot of concerns that supporters of violent protests as edward says is not fairing censorship on twitter. to "the federalist" senior editor chris bedford. good to see you. last friday, that was the same day president trump was red flagged by twitter so to speak what they said was a violent message. antifa featured a tweet that advocated burning down police

stations just as happened the night before in minneapolis. no red flag. no special mention. certainly no takedown of that tweet. it is still up. you can see it. this inconsistency has, can't be ignored any longer, can it? >> no. it has been years in the making this has been going on. friends and colleagues of mine for many years now been reporting tweets of threatening violence, send them pictures of guns and bullets with actual threats. antifa, some people start to think these guys are just disorganized and they're thugs. they're not disorganized as well. they're very organized. they use platforms like twitter to coordinate violence in cities. they cause massive destruction, dangerous violence. twitter almost never cracks down on it. david: it would be bad enough if it was just that. but to allow their platform to be used by people who coordinate violent actions and then, either try to completely censor

conservatives or red flag them in the way they did with the president, it's the inconsistency that certainly means that they are far more of a publisher with ideology than they are just benign platform? >> we've been talking about this on fox business for years now about how twitter is breaking these rules and acting as a publisher. it is forefittings their own protections. a lot of social media companies had to monitor because of social pressures and pressures from political forces but twitter decided to do it very foolishly. they decided to do it in house with blatantly partisan people in charge of this, as they have been outed. places like facebook outsource their fact checking to other organizations with some kind of attempt to make it more fair. david: that is a different story. >> twitter made a mistake and i think they will lose their protection. david: mayor de blasio, of new york, progressive his entire life, came out basically on

sunday, supported the police force, condemned outside agitators. will he stick to that? some of his progressive allies asked for him to resign, very quickly? >> seems like tough about face for the mayor to do this but it is important when your city is being burnt down, and you're the mayor you must protect it. david: chris bed for, thank you very much for being here. protesters are gathering right now in union square in manhattan for what is now a peaceful protest. we have have a live report coming next.

david: welcome back. i'm david asman in for neil, who has a well-deserved day off. we have a busy hour coming up but right now, peaceful protesters are gathering in new york city after a fourth night of riots. new york city police vehicles were set ablaze, stores were hit by looters as governor andrew cuomo now says he will speak with mayor bill deblasio about a possible curfew for the city. the white house, meanwhile, is set to hold a press briefing in just about an hour. fox business's kristina partsinevelos is in union square, where protests are just beginning. not huge crowds there, right?

reporter: no, no, that's the reason why we came to this street corner first, because there's roughly less than ten protesters at the moment. there's about a little less than 50 police officers surrounding union square. this is where it started but i want to come to this particular corner over here on fourth avenue because of the businesses that are being affected. so behind me, over here, you can see this is a best buy. best buy, the looters yesterday ripped down the wooden planks and broke the windows so now for a second time, they have had to put up the wooden planks. i spoke to one of the construction workers right over there. he told me they have to put two sets of wooden planks, the same thing with nordstrom rack, they were hit. you've got walgreens that is officially closed on that side. that seems to be the narrative right now. it's so unfortunate not necessarily for the large chains but the smaller shops that are trying to come back from the coronavirus to only have their properties destroyed by angry mobs, rioters, and taking away from what the message is. we saw that across the country

yesterday evening. we today, i wanted to point out, we actually saw looters right in front of us going through a 7/11 store. i saw two men go into a gnc, a vitamin shop, and loot that store. that was around 10:19 a.m. eastern time. this is something the city is preparing and like you mentioned, mayor deblasio of new york did say now is an option. he's considering putting a curfew on certain parts of new york city so that would be more of the situation but again, like you mentioned, this is the epicenter of where a lot of the protests happened. we have been told based on social media, i have been scouring all across the web, 3:00 p.m., they are expecting protesters, times square, bryant park so it's not just here, it's not going to be just south of 14th. that's the unfortunate thing. it's happening all across the city and i spoke to one duane reed representative, i bought some water, and he said it doesn't make sense, they are destroying all kinds of various

properties that have nothing to do with the protest and it takes away from the message. so here, you have a lot of police that are just preparing for the worst but hopefully that won't be the case this evening. back to you. david: let's hope for better times. kristina, thank you very much. major companies are facing pressure to publicly support protesters in the aftermath of george floyd's death. lauren simonetti has more on that. hey, lauren. lauren: good to see you. let's start with microsoft. the ceo releasing this tweet just now. there is no place for hate and racism in our society. empathy and shared understanding are a start but we must do more and he continues, well, apple is doing more. in a memo obtained by fox business, tim cook writes this. george floyd's death is shocking and tragic proof that we must aim far higher than a normal future and build one that lives up to the highest ideals of equality and justice. apple going a step further,

donating to equal justice and human rights groups and matching employee donations in june that do the same. brand expert chris ruby says taking action against violence is necessary right now, also, as many companies big and small take action to protect themselves from violence. if you take a look at some of this video, apple, their popular fifth avenue flagship store in new york city, they actually put scaffolding up around it, as we have seen many businesses from coast to coast do, even though the looters unfortunately are taking much of that scaffolding down. companies without storefronts are also expressing their solidarity with the injustice. netflix tweeting this, to be silent is to be complicit. black lives matter. we have a platform and we have a duty to our black members. employees, createors and talent to speak up.

hulu, hbo, amazon, much of hollywood echoing that sentiment exactly. facebook, they are contributing $10 million to injustice groups and groups that fight injustice. so we are seeing a lot of people empathizing with the situation. what we are not seeing a lot of at this point is two things, taking action to change the situation and also coming out and condemning the violence. we are seeing some of it but not enough right now. back to you. david: i condemn racism, believe me but at the same time also condemn the violence against small businesses who have spent their lives trying to build up something, who are not these big mega-corporations, they deserve our support just as much. thank you very much, lauren. good to see you. businesses are bracing and turning to alternatives to protect themselves against looters, with some even turning to private security. footwear distributors and retailers ceo matt priest on how

business owners can protect their stores. good to see you, matt. i wish you the very best. you are speaking out for those small businesses across the country and i have noticed that a lot of looters were honing in on footwear. some of that footwear can be very expensive, whether it's fancy ladies' shoes or fancy sneakers for men. how are you trying to protect those that are most vulnerable? >> thanks for having me on, david. it's a legitimate question. most of our companies that are located in areas where there's been rioting are closing early or trying to ensure that their employees are protected and ensuring that customers are protected as well. if not, we are not looking at huge numbers of stores across the landscape as it relates to the broader industry as a whole, but i think what you're seeing right now is you have companies and corporations, your most recent report indicated that, that are showing the difficulty and are finding a reason to speak out against racism and violence against

african-americans in this country while at the same time trying to ensure that they have the ability to sell more shoes and to open their doors to all americans and all consumers, and that's a tough balance to strike right now. i think it's not a zero sum game. i think you can be focused on reform while at the same time trying to sell more footwear and create more opportunities for all people. david: at the same time, you have a group of retailers out there really hard-working retailers, guys who get up at the crack of dawn and end up locking their doorway after dark, and they were just beginning to figure out how to open up with this coronavirus lockdown. just as that happens, they are having to shut down again, reboard their businesses. how does that affect them? they were barely able to make it through the lockdown, right? >> yeah. you know, we have had a number of gut punches right now. we had the china trade war impacting our pricing for consumers. then we had the coronavirus.

as our companies are reopening after the lockdown, they are seeing less foot traffic but higher conversion rates and higher average sales, so there's some optimism because april was our lowest month since 1995 in retail sales for footwear, so when you are facing those numbers and you turn to see the unrest that is being driven by frustration in a community of folks that feel like their voices haven't been heard or disenfranchised, i think ultimately there will be a lot of people trying to look for a way, a path forward that both supports and recognizes the plight of african-americans in our community and puts forward real reforms at the federal government level on down while at the same time protecting business owners who oftentimes are minorities and african-americans themselves to allow them to sell product to people who need it. david: as you say, it's a triple whammy. first you have the problems with china, then you have the coronavirus and now this. we really do, our prayers are with the small business

community, particularly retail markets. matt priest, good to see you. thank you very much. best of luck to you. in detroit, police arrest more than 100 people as violent protests continued for a third night despite a curfew being put in place. detroit police chief james craig on what the city is expecting tonight. what are you preparing for, chief? >> you know, i'm very comforted to know that over the last three days, when i look around the country, we haven't had some of the violence. the men and women of the detroit police department have executed with precision and certainly yesterday was a success. we did make some arrests over the three-day period, but we are anticipating more folks to protest today so we are prepared for that as well. i got to give a lot of credit not only to the men and women who wear the uniform, who just did a phenomenal job, but also our community. one thing we have done very

different, we have elicited the support of community members, community activists, who are actually on the ground in the front line with us, because the sentiment is we don't want violence in the city of detroit. so we know definitively that most of the people that we arrested and the problems that we're having are from outsiders, like so many other places. david: let me hold you on that, because i saw you making that comment a couple days ago, that the majority of the people who were involved in violent incidents were from the outside. some people said that earlier and pulled that back. you're not pulling that back. you still stick to that, right? >> oh, i'm not pulling it back. now, i will tell you just looking at the other cities like philadelphia, chicago, by way of example, and you look at the looting, we haven't had looting, we haven't had any burning, thank god, but the ones who are attacking our cops, throwing o

projectiles and the arrests we have made strongly suggest that the majority are from the outside. when i talk about the outside, some from out of state, but more from areas outside of the city. david: are they, chief, forgive me for interrupting, is there a coordinated action among those violent rioters that you have seen, that is to say that they are coordinated whether through cell phones or through some other means? >> yeah, two-way radios. we know they are deploying drones. they are very organized. so we know that they are coordinating and working together. again, a small group of individuals who are imbedded in the peaceful protest. david: i wonder where they get their money, chief. did you ever tbout that? you can't make money being a professional rioter. are they getting backing from some place?

>> that's a great question. i'm not going to even begin to speculate but i will tell you when you look at what's going on across the country, and different cities are reporting that the ones who are the law violators, many of them are from outside of the city. david: right. right. >> outside of the state. david: chief, we've got to wrap. i just want to end on a positive note because there's a chief not far from where you are in flint, michigan, who has managed to actually join in with -- we are seeing a picture of him here, you probably know the guy, i don't have his name offhand, but he's the police chief from flint. he took off his uniform or at least the outer gear that he was wearing, you still know he's a police chief but he joined in with the protesters, sort of disarmed them, disarmed any kind of violent mood that they might

have had going into the protest and things ended up pretty well there. i'm seeing more of that. i also see in washington, d.c. there was a case of a couple of peaceful protesters that grabbed one of the violent out-of-town protesters, turned him over to the police so are you seeing more of that? >> yeah, i have seen that because detroiters have taken a firm stand. here's what we know. i will not lock arms with criminals. now, the vast majority, and i mean the vast majority, say 95%, of the protesters, are peaceful. we have no problem with the protesters who want to get a message out that we agree with. however, a small minority of criminals that are imbedded, that's a problem. i think if you were to talk to my colleagues in other places, they would share the same sentiment. they know like i know that i certainly support law-abiding protesters, we appreciate what

they're doing, we understand. what we don't understand, law violators from outside the city of detroit coming into our city to commit crimes. david: you make a lot of sense, chief. by the way, that was the sheriff, not the police chief i mentioned from flint. >> it was the sheriff. david: it was the sheriff. again, you've got common sense. i hope at the end of the day, common sense wins out because this nation can't take much more of this. we appreciate you being with us, chief. best of luck to you. god bless you. >> thank you. god bless you, too. thank you. david: chinese government officials meanwhile ordering companies to halt some purchases of u.s. farm goods. how that is jeopardizing our trade deal with china. details coming next. (soothing music)

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david: you might not be using zoom to communicate with your friends but a lot of people are and investors like that. in fact, the shares of zoom topping 200 bucks for the first time ever today, as you can see. the stock is up 14%. that's just today. zoom is doing quite well, taking advantage of all these shutdown orders. meanwhile, u.s./china tensions escalating, as china halts purchases of some u.s. farm goods, putting the phase one trade deal in jeopardy. to heritage foundation senior research fellow, dean chang, on

the trade uncertainty. dean, i assume this is mostly about the u.s. revoking preferential treatment on hong kong for trade and travel, is that right? >> that seems to be the case. chinese sources who interestingly are asking not to be named, have seemingly indicated that this is in response to president trump and his hong kong restrictions. david: now, should american businesses, particularly the farmers who have been hit very hard by trade tariffs and a number of things, should they be actively thinking about the possibility of not having china as a customer anymore? it's going to be very hard to divert particularly i'm thinking of pig farmers and such, it's going to be hard to divert all that to another country. >> it would be difficult, but this is the interesting problem. the chinese on pork, for

example, have hit sky-high pork imports so if they cut back on the u.s. because they have a pork shortage at home, they are going to wind up importing from somebody else, say germany, brazil or australia. those countries can't necessarily meet that demand. so what you would wind up with is a global shuffle of pork suppliers as most likely american suppliers would probably step into markets that the germans or australians had stepped out of in order to meet chinese demand. david: of course, the chinese government doesn't give a damn about their own people, so they don't care if there are pork shortages at home, do they? >> they usually don't but you have to remember, pork is the staple product and when pork prices rise, you start having very unhappy people throughout china. david: by the way, has the chinese government, it's almost a rhetorical question but has the chinese government ever come close to apologizing to the

world for unleashing this virus on us? >> well, according to the chinese, we all owe china a vote of thanks for their prompt and effective reaction to covid. so i think it's safe to say no, they have offered no apologies. they frankly at this point haven't even offered excuses because they seem to be holding to the line that everything they have done was right. david: are they paying any price from the rest of the world? i know we are trying to figure out a way to exact a price from them for what they have done and what anybody with two eyes can see what they have done, whether they are from the united states or europe or even china, but is the rest of the world trying to exact a price or are they too interested in trading with china? >> well, i think that financially speaking, i'm not sure anyone has shown up with a bill for their costs, but given the amount of, for example,

defective protective personal equipment the chinese shipped throughout europe, i think it's safe to say they have definitely taken a black eye in terms of their political reputation and frankly, in terms of the view of quality of chinese products. i mean, if you can't make masks that work, how good are your ball bearings and machine tools? david: it was an extraordinary video circulating on the internet about a month ago of i believe it was a hospital in france trying to keep a garment that they had been sent by china from shredding and it virtually fell apart like tissue. i think their reputation has finally caught up with them even in the rest of the world. dean, great to see you. thank you very much. coming up, president trump just slamming governors for their response to riots. the political implications straight ahead.

david: trouble in paradise. santa monica, california hit by

riots and looting overnight. william lajeunesse with how the city is looking now to clean up and what it can look forward to. reporter: well, david, they've got a 1:00 curfew planned here in santa monica so we don't have a repeat of what happened yesterday. as you can probably see behind me, you've got dozens and hundreds of volunteers, really, showing up with brooms and dust pans, soap and sweat, trying to clean up the mess that protesters and thieves left behind. they are sweeping up the broken glass, putting up boards on the windows, washing graffiti away. so this is what it looks like today. let me also show you what looked like 24 hours ago, when police were literally broadsided, unprepared and overwhelmed by the protesters, where they were pinned down, if you will, over on ocean avenue and here i am four blocks away, and you had the looters decimating the business district, stealing electronics and shoes, furniture, $2,000 bicycles from places like patagonia, runner's

world, roadrunner, rather, rei over there. one woman tried to defend that store. that didn't work out too well. they overwhelmed her and threw m-80s. police pretty much stayed back, partially for their own safety because they didn't have the numbers to go in, if you will, individually. sometimes they did, and they told people to put down their stuff and then the thieves came back around the other side and got it again. we spoke to one jeweler about a block away from here who put his gemstones and high end watches in a safe and they stole that. >> they came around, they were trying to break in. they left, another gang came in and they did the same thing. they left and i took some of my stuff out. reporter: police used kind of a foam type rubber bullet or projectile to control the area. they had been thrown at with

rocks. i know an lapd officer had a broken skull. literally, there were so many froe protests that whenever the cops would move in, they would go around them and defeat the very purpose that they were trying to get kind of crowd control which is why, of course, they had that curfew in for 1:00 today to try to not allow people to come into a mass, if you will, and close some of the freeway exits here. they made 400 arrests yesterday, 90% of those are outside santa monica. no surprise. median price home here is over $2 million but it wasn't just santa monica. it was huntington beach, long beach, oakland, san francisco, where the thieves and looters literally took advantage of this opportunity of quote peaceful demonstrations to literally decimate these areas. you know, it wasn't just taking stuff. they were trashing these places. in some cases just setting fire and then of course, you had to bring in the cops or national guard to protect the firefighters to go in and fight

the fire. all in all, a very bad situation they hope not to repeat today. back to you. david: evil, bad people. we got to stop them from doing what they're doing. william, thank you very much. appreciate it. because of what's happening across the nation, president trump specifically calling out some governors as weak and urging them to dominate as riots take over their city streets. to fox news contributor deneen borelli now. it certainly seemed the president's comments were on the mark a few days ago but over the weekend, even some of the most progressive city and state leaders, people like mayor deblasio, who is as progressive as the day is long, now standing behind cops, getting a lot of flack, by the way, from alexandria ocasio-cortez and people even further to his left, if you can go that far, but for the moment, he has been sticking by the police and condemning the rioters. do you think that will continue?

>> well, you know, it's too little, too late, david. i mean, these local leaders and officials, especially deblasio, they should have been on top of this from day one. i mean, what do you expect, this is a recipe for disaster. first of all, think about the number of people who are not working right now because of the virus and then everything just got escalated from there with the anger and frustration that happened with george floyd. it's just really reckless, i think, with these elected officials who are supposed to be leaders, when you are a leader, you are supposed to be up front and on top of things, anticipating problems and disasters that down the road. these people who were not on top of it, they are the ones to blame in terms of my opinion. david: the other problem is that quite a few of them, including mayor deblasio, have not stood behind the police force that they are now trying to get

allegiance from. they are now claiming that they are all in favor of the police but for years previous, they haven't been good allies. and for very specific reasons, the police force do not trust necessarily their bosses. >> no, you're absolutely right. in a lot of cases they are kind of hands-off or have been, for example, especially in new york city because they're afraid of being criticized for doing what they're supposed to do which is their job, and to keep our streets safe. so you have these elected officials, especially in these liberal states and cities, they should have been hands-on with this, they should have been backing our police officers, providing them with the support and assistance that they need because the criminals are the ones who are taking advantage of this situation. david: then there's also the problem, as you mentioned before, the lockdown. we have had three months of stores being closed, being locked down, in certain areas. i think it's primarily where a

lot of these riots have taken place, in washington, d.c., in new york, et cetera. when stores and streets, frankly, are empty for that long a period of time, criminals notice and they try to figure out, it seems that a lot of these criminals were prepared with cars to pick up the merchandise, some of the cars had their license plates taken off so they couldn't be identified or they could hide their identity a little better, so it looked like the criminals were casing the joint and the joint in this case were entire cities and even states. >> it's stunning. there are also stories of people coming across borders and going to other states to wreak havoc in these communities. i feel so bad for the citizens in these communities and the small business owners. i mean, my goodness, why would you want to start up again if your business has been decimated. who knows if the insurance is going to cover anything with the damage and theft that occurred. people have their life savings

invested in their small businesses, to provide goods and services for these communities, and now who knows what's going to happen now once all of this is over. i hope it ends soon. david: i do, too. the only thing that makes me optimistic that it won't be as bad as we suggest is we have new york has come back through all kinds of things including 9/11, including riots going all the way back to the civil war, in the past. you think of the double and triple whammies we have received with this lockdown and then the riots, it's going to take a lot of gumption. we got a lot of gumption. let's put our money on the gumption. good to see you. thank you for coming in. appreciate it. >> thanks, david. david: president trump taking action against antifa but can he label it a terrorist organization? a legal discussion on that, coming next.

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david: so what does draw our young people to organizations like antifa and black lives matter and other organizations that either encourage or actually participate in this kind of violence we are seeing around the country? to campus reform editor in chief c cabot phillips on the protests sweeping the nation. good to see you. it's hard to keep smiling through what we are seeing, particularly, i was listening to npr, national public radio, over the weekend. they had a northwestern university professor, steven thrasher, on applauding the violence, talking about how, in fact, this is the beginning of a new revolution in america to get rid of the old system. this is the kind of garbage that does ring a bell to a lot of naive college students who are going despite the tens of

thousands of dollars their parents spend to send them there, they are getting nonsense. >> yeah. and that's the problem when we encourage young people to look up to their professors, look up to politicians, look up to celebrities and when all those people turn around and encourage this type of thing, encourage the violence we are seeing in these riots, who are the young people to trust because they have been told their whole lives that's who they are supposed to look up to. for the last four years of leadership institute campus reform i have been documenting how professors are saying things like i am antifa and who could be antifa? it's anti-fascism, froeprofesso encouraging this. then you have keith ellison coming out encouraging people sdwroin t to join the movement. you have a-list celebrities saying we will pay the bail for anybody who gets arrested. so when they look up at people not condemning this type of violence, not saying this hurts the cause, this hurts the cause and memory of george floyd who was heinously murdered, rather than saying that, they say go at

it, have eight, itat it, it's t glorious struggle for freedom. i think we run the risk of this type of violence becoming the new normal if we don't stamp it out and make it clear that in america, there are better ways to protest, better ways to get your message out, than all this destruction. david: very interesting you mention the name of keith ellison, the former congressman who is now attorney general for the state of minnesota, whose son has just written a note saying that he is a member of antifa. you also have mayor deblasio in new york whose daughter was arrested as part of the riots that were taking place in new york. so even the progressives' parents now have the problems of seeing their young ones falling into the grip of the violent radicals. >> i think one reason you see that happening, one reason we see so many young people around america falling prey is because there's been a lack of accountability for the last few years as antifa groups and as

their violence has gone from sporadic to more common, you've got a lot of prospective people thinking about joining in and when they look around and they don't see any accountability, they don't see anything but a few slaps on the wrist, when people do act this way, they say why wouldn't i go out and do that. there's a certain element of them saying it's a glorified struggle, feeling they are freedom fighters joining in the social justice novmemovement wh that's not what they are doing. the other element is they think they can act with complete impugny from the law because they see how often these action don't result in accountability. that's why the step of designating antifa as a terrorist group, it's kind of using whatever methods we can to act as a deterrent to -- david: if in fact, that legal designation can be made, there is some debate about whether that's possible by one of our next guests. got to leave it at that. great discussion. thank you very much for being here. appreciate it. coming up, there's going to be a white house briefing on

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david: in a scene to harken back to 1968 riots, fires were raging in the nation's capital as protesters clashed with police outside the white house, just a block away. hillary vaughn is inside the nation's capital with the latest. reporter: this is the scene a lot of people in major cities around america woke up to this morning. windows smashed, shops gutted as rioters poured in, grabbing essentially everything they could rip off the shelves. even this atm right here was gutted, ripped apart and destroyed. want i want to take a walk down, we are outside afl-cio headquarters in washington, d.c. these windows were smashed, there is still broken glass shattered on the ground. this is how rioters got access to the inside lobby of this

building. buildings all around the district, david, have been peppered with graffiti. a lot of profanity and a lot of messages of hate marking d.c. war memorials and national monuments around the district. this is also, david, what the president woke up to this morning. as you can z thesee, there is t white house steps away from these buildings that workers are kind of putting under construction, boarding up again because we are expecting more activity tonight. there is a 7:00 p.m. curfew. we are already seeing some protesters peacefully gathering right outside the white house. really, still peacefully gathering right now but the concern here is that things will progress and turn violent like they did here last night. again, a lot of the shops, the glass has been broken and gutted and now workers are quickly trying to put more wood slabs over those broken windows to try to keep people from gaining access again tonight.

david? david: church steeple, by way, in the distance that was torched last night fortunately looks like they will be able to recover from that. but just awful. hillary, thank you very much. president trump tweeting on sunday that the u.s. is going to label antifa as a terrorist organization in the wake of the violent protests all over the country following george floyd's death. to fox news senior judicial analyst judge andrew napolitano. judge, great to see you. andy mccarthy and others say this federal law actually prohibits designating a domestic group as terrorists. do you agree? >> i do agree. the statute is the foreign terrorist act which allows the secretary of state to declare a foreign group, which has loyalty to some entity other than the united states, as a terrorist organization, and then that makes it a crime for an american to provide material assistance

to that organization. but there is no ability, the president and his press secretary notwithstanding, to make that declaration and have it mean anything. the president can say whatever he wants, but there's no legal basis to make that declaration for an american group that would have profound constitutional implications even though the group about which the president speaks is known for violence and perpetrating violence even as we are discussing it. david: absolutely right. for years, though, judge, we have had former presidents and media organizations refer to domestic terrorism, call out certain groups that were just as despicable as antifa like the kkk as terrorist organizations. was it just a manner of speech or are we now prohibiting this president from doing what other presidents have alluded to? >> that's a great question, david. the president's predecessors and perhaps he himself over the

weekend were just engaging in a manner of speech so as to articulate for the public exactly the nature and motivation of what these people were doing. so there is a federal statute which prohibits engaging in terroristic acts and a terroristic act is two or more acts of violence committed by the same person for the purpose of intimidating the public or changing the policy of the government. so a person can be labeled as a terrorist and a jury can find the person engaged in acts of terrorism, that adds to the duration of their time in prison if they are convicted, but there's no basis for characterizing an american group or i should say a domestic group with that title. david: judge, we have a lot of leaders all over the country, many of whom are on the left of the political spectrum, who have pointed out like mayor deblasio,

like the mayor of minneapolis, we just had the police chief of detroit on, saying the agitators who were agitating the violence, agitating as many people as they could to engage in violence, crossed state lines in order to do that. does that distinction have some affect on the way they may be prosecuted? >> yes. so it is a federal crime to cross state lines in order to commit a crime in the state to which you're going, whether that crime is lying under oath or engage inniing in a riot so if somebody traveled from ohio to minneapolis in order to agitate -- not agitate, because agitation is protected speech, but in order to engage in the riot, to cause the riot, to participate in the riot, then they could be prosecuted by the state in which the riot took place and by the federal government --

david: very quickly, judge, forgive me for interrupting -- >> that crime adds five years to your time in jail. david: very quickly. we only have about ten seconds. what, if an individual paid an organization like that to engage in an act of violence because a lot of people are wondering where these guys got their money. >> oh, that person would be guilty of the same crime as the people that he paid are guilty, if they are arrested and if they were prosecuted and convicted. not even a close call. david: let's hope we get them. judge andrew napolitano, thank you very much. great to see you. by the way, you can join me on "your world" at 4:00 p.m. on the fox news channel for more on all of this and the latest on whether or not new york city will implement a curfew. i will talk with howie safer, the former new york city police commissioner.

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david: twitter facing renewed criticism after not flagging ceo jack dorsey retweeting incorrect information about violence in minneapolis. susan li has. susan: if you do it for one do it for all. that is the case with jack dorsey's tweet. melvin carter saying that most of those arrested friday were out-of-state. that information was not true. in fact some of the data suggests that most of those who were arrested on friday night in

the minneapolis protest were from minneapolis itself. nonetheless jack dorsey retweeting this tweet and this information. that sparked a whole lot of criticism online. they say if you're going to fact check the u.s. president, maybe the twitter ceo needs to be fact checked as well. jack dorsey said he, he i am heavily alone was responsible for the new twitter policy. he should get all the blame if there were any. all talking about ayatollah on twitter asking for destruction of israel, armed resistance and jihad. these tweets were not shielded from the public as trump's minneapolis tweets and twitter said they had to shield some tweets because they feared violence. twitter said they were not going to hide any of president trump's shall we say facebook posts. they actually set up, and upset a few of the facebook employees

this weekend. so we had, mark zuckerberg facebook founder, ceo saying they shouldn't be the arbiter of truth. not everyone agreed with that. we're hearing, "new york times" is reporting that numerous employees of the 48,000 that work at facebook are staging a virtual walkout. they have called in sick today. facebook employees all weekend long showed some of these tweets from twitter saying they were wildly disappointed by mark zuckerberg's decision but still it is a tough decision to make on both sides of the argument, right, david? david: it is. on the other hand if you become a publisher rather than the provider of a platform, you have to expect the blow back. they allowed antifa to recommend trashing and burning police stations and yet they -- susan: can't take side. david: they red flag the president. david: white house press briefing is set to the top of the hour. we'll be following for that for you, live. i will be on at 4:00 p.m. with

howie and a lot of other notables. market doing quite well. the dow is up almost 100 points. nasdaq is you here than that the reason because of this guy, charles payne. it is cp effect, charles. charles: starts early these days david thank you, my friend. we'll see you at 4:00 on fnc. this is "making money" and i'm charles payne. america braces for seventh straight day and night of unrest protest against racism, inequality and police killing of blacks turned more often than not into destructive riots. many major cities imposing curfews. we'll go in depth when i think about this, what probably needs to happen. also as we mentioned, markets are doing very well here. in fact the stock market looking beyond the images of the