for communities to rebuild. elizabeth: governor, come back soon. thanks for joining us. i'm elizabeth macdonald. you've been watching the evening edit. join us tomorrow night. lou: good evening, everybody. in some of this country's largest cities, particularly democratic cities led by democratic mayors, local governments, have turned over their streets to radicals, to thieves and, yes, killers. and for those who say that this is a time for healing, i would argue that, unfortunately, it is far too premature a time for healing. it is time to defend our national values. it is time to defend and enforce our laws and protect our citizens and, yes, our property. the country is awaiting yet another night of demonstrations and protests and potentially

riots to see where the streets -- whether the streets of those cities and towns are controlled by mayors, city council es, police departments or vandals and looters and rioters, criminals and thug it is. in raleigh, north carolina, the police chief there has already decided to hand over that city to the mob. >> i will not put an officer in harm's way to protect the property inside of a building. lou: the protesters who are filling the streets of some of this country's largest cities bring with them, last night, more violence, more looting, arson and vandalism. it is particularly troubling that these rioters and looters are turning now on our police officers, in some cases trying to kill them. some wounded officers this evening are near death. video capturing the demonstrations of barbaric violence as you see here.

one man in the bronx holding a new york city police sergeant down on the sidewalk as another man beats him with what appears to be a metal sign before they run off. in the same part of the city, a car speeded into a police officer, hitting him, sending him airborne and hitting a second vehicle. the officer, we are told, is expected to survive, but no arrests have been made. elsewhere in st. louis, missouri, four police officers were shot during protests in the city's downtown. all of the officers have been released from the hospital, thankfully, but no arrests again have been made. in buffalo e the driver of an suv ran through a police line. he hit three police officers. that driver is in custody. and in las vegas, an officer on life support this evening. he was shot in the head outside

a casino doing his job. this violence is countrywide, and it has little to do with the horrific incident that started with a cop's knee in the neck of george floyd. in fact, all of these violent demonstrations, these protest, burning buildings, riots and murder have all taken over ruined absolutely whatever message had been intended by those who wanted to protest and to demonstrate. it's all been lost on a nation that is sickened by the images that we see every day, every night of attacks on police, businesses destroyed, cities devolving into chaos. president trump has vowed to restore law and order, threatening military intervention to recapture what has been lost by mayors and city councils and governors. >> i have strongly recommended to every governor to deploy the

national guard in sufficient numbers. if a city or state refuses to take the actions that are necessary, then i will deploy the united states military and quickly solve the problem. lou: former president barack obama yesterday addressed the riots plaguing the nation. although i disagree with most of what he has had to say, there was one thing that he wrote that i agree with wholeheartedly. he wrote this, quote: the elected officials who matter most in reforming police departments and the criminal justice system work at the state and local levels. it's mayors and county executives that appoint most police chiefs and negotiate collective bargaining agreements with police unions. it's district attorneys and state attorneys that decide whether or not to investigate and ultimately charge those

involved in police misconduct. those are all elected positions. and in nearly every city that is experiencing these horrible moments as a result of demonstrations and protests that have turned violent and vulgar, those elected officials have failed in their duty and in deciding, they'll -- charges, they have dropped them. joining us tonight is ken cucinelli, acting deputy director for the department of homeland security, acting director of human services as well. good to have you here. >> good evening, lou. lou: let's start with the very issue that caron fronts -- confronts everyone in this this country right now. who in the hell is responsible for this? this is obviously orchestrated. this is not some kind of spontaneous combustion that we're witnessing in our society.

this is planned, managed and orchestrated, is it not? >> there certainly are large numbers of people out there who fit that description, lou, and they're hijacking legitimate protests and turning them violent. as the president said very firmly yesterday, he expressed his outrage at the injustice suffered by george floyd in his death but also said we will not let these looters and criminals and domestic terrorists take over and destroy our cities and our country. and we at the department of homeland security have surged personnelled to do exactly that, is control streets in the areas where we're here in washington and where we're supporting our state and local partners out in the cities where they ask us to. there has been a direct correlation between those areas that use strong amounts -- and i don't mean over inappropriate behavior, but strong police

force you have gotten less violence. the strong showing of national guard and police is controlling the streets. it does keep americans and their property safe. and that's the job of law enforcement. and as the president said, keeping americans and america safe is his first duty, and he has pushed us very hard to do that as aggressively as the law allows, and we're doing it x. we're going to keep doing it until the violence is over. lou: it's considered to be the first duty of anyone who swears an oath to the constitution, serves in local or county or tate or federal -- state or federal government to protect american citizens. >> right. lou: those who put them in office. in point of fact, we have seen mayor after mayor and nearly every time it's a democrat, a governor simply refuse to, as the president put it, dominate in the face of these looters and vandals and arsonists.

it's extraordinary that we are talking about an ongoing situation, a crisis, if you will, in the streets of those cities, and i don't with hear many people talking about which mayors, which governors, which -- >> well, lou, i mean, let's go back to where this started. you can, in minnesota, in minneapolis you can see the difference when they weren't willing to call out the guard and once they were willing to call out the guard. the change in the destructiveness and the violence dropped precipitously right there where this all began. and all this violence that essentially dishonors the efforts to convert george floyd's death into constructive progress to make sure something like that never happens again, it's been hijacked. we're not going to let that happen. the president was very aggressive, you played some of the audio of him talking to the governors, what he told the governors. either you do it or i'll do it. and you know, lou, i've been a state attorney general, this is

the first respondent of local government -- responsibility of local government, then state. federal government is supposed to come in third and last. but the decisions being made in some cities are making this worse. their unwillingness to engage and protect their own people, their own cities means that there's more violence, there's more mayhem, there's more death, and it wouldn't be right if we didn't finish, lou, if we didn't at least talk about the actual targeting of law enforcement. this is not random, it's intentional in many cases x. those acts, in my view, are domestic terrorism. and for a sense of scale for you, the department of homeland security lost the first person to an assassination of law enforcement in oakland, jesse underwood, one of our -- protecting a courthouse out there. his partner had three bullet wounds, looks like he's going to survive, thank god. but it's that sort of assault, you rattled off some more last night. this continues. the secret service has suffered

60 injuries in the course of defending the white house and the area around the white house in washington. they've never reached numbers of injuries that high before. this is extraordinary. we have anarchists who are organizing and who are intentionally fomenting violence to thank that we're, that we're facing off within the streets. lou: well, i, i'm not sure that i always understand the reticence of some of our officials to talk directly about antifa, to talk about the organizations by name. and also what is clearly a connection between local government and the leaders of some of these organizations including antifa that they refuse to bring charges against, that they refuse to hold accountable and punish. this is outrageous. and i realize there are the limited resources but, my god, that is a role for the federal

government, is it not, to delve into precisely those kinds of corrupt relationships? >> yes. so where we have people particularly crossing saw tate lines to participate in this -- state lines to participate in this, that gives federal jurisdiction. first and foremost, even as president obama noted, this is the responsibility of local and state governments. but when people cross state lines to participate in this and that's their purpose, then they trigger federal jurisdiction, expect fbi -- and you've heard the attorney general speak very strongly to their willingness to prosecute. i would note for a group like antifa and other anarchist type groups or that are really the most prevalent of the terrorist type tactics, they're not card-carrying organizations. they're not, they don't is have ordinary membership in the way we think of it. so tying particular people to particular -- lou: al-qaeda -- forgive me, i

mean, the same thing could be -- that sort of misses the point, it seems to me. al-qaeda didn't carry cards either. they didn't have an organization chart. you could make some, but the fact is we haven't even done that with antifa. and how soon will the president declare them to be, in point of fact, an international terrorist organization? >> well, i don't know that they've done anything outside the united states. but we treat them based on their behavior. you've heard me call the behavior terrorist. i was doing that on saturday. and when people set out, for instance, to harm -- lou: yeah, but i'm talking about a designation -- [inaudible conversations] i'll met you finish -- let you finish but answer -- >> we don't have an official designation -- lou: excuse me, i know that. that's the reason why i'm asking you directly and politely as i can, ken, that the president said he would do so, and i'm asking you when will it happen. >> so since there isn't a

formal, there isn't a legal structure for domestic terrorist organizations, we characterize them ourselves. and you heard the president do that, he did it some on twitter this weekend. and, you know, that qualifies. lou: is so that's -- >> he's calling them out. lou: all right. and he has also called out the military: let's see tonight, hopefully they will not be necessary -- >> that's what we hope. lou: -- to quell this extraordinary moment in our history. ken cucinelli, thank you very much. i'm deeply sorry that we had to exchange heated words, but there it is. we've done so before, probably again. up next, jerry nadler getting in the general michael flynn case while pursuing new articles of impeachment against president trump. stay with us. ♪ usaa was made for right now. and right now, is a time for action. so, for a second time we're giving members

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lou: breaking news tonight, the juste department asking the supreme court to block a lower court ruling that requires the department to hand over secret grand jury materials from the mueller special counsel investigation to the rad call the dems -- radical dems who sit on the house judiciary committee. two weeks ago the supreme court temporarily blocked those dems

led by jerry e nadler from obtaining the information. that after the dems told the court they're still looking into possible impeachable offenses of president trump. also breaking, jerry nadler filing his own legal brief to defend judge emmet sullivan's refusal to dismiss the general michael flynn case. nadler also says he's lining up his9 blowers, as he called them, to testify against attorney general william barr and introducing legislation to slash personal, barr's personal office budget by $50 million. nadler is quite something, isn't he? you've seen his act before. what a sorry and pathetic act it is. solicitor general noel francisco calling out judge emmet sullivan's tactics. he wants him to dismiss the case entirely against general flynn as he says the constitution requires. he told the federal appellate court in washington that judge sullivan has no authority

whatsoever to block the justice department's request to dismiss the case against flynn, no authority whatsoever to appoint a former federal judge to, of all things, go after flynn for perjury or contempt. our next guest this evening is at the center of all of this, general michael flynn's attorney. joining us is sidney powell, also former federal prosecutor. sidney, let's start with noel francisco basically saying the same thing that you've been saying without but with some considerable power with the weight of the justice department behind him as solicitor general. telling sullivan basically shut up, move on and get out of this. [laughter] >> yes, there are two separate articles of the constitution that apply to prohibit judge sullivan from proceeding the way he wants to proceed. one is that the executive power and the power of prosecution

rests solely with the department of justice. judge sullivan can't change his robe in for the suit of a prosecutor and go out and play pitch, run bases, bat and the whole business. instead, as we said in our brief, he's way out in left field by himself. and then also there's no case or controversy left anymore under article iii because the parties, the government and general flynn, have agreed to dismissal of the case. primarily because the government long hid evidence that shows he was innocent. and to see any of the material elements necessary to prove a crime. lou: and the idea that the radical dems with nadler threatening to take on attorney general barr and his office budget, for crying out loud, he couldn't be more of a cretan or a creep, could he?

than to continue to act in this fashion? what is going to happen here in terms of sinking to put in the hands of such a person grand jury materials, to me, is just unthinkable for whatever the reason. enter it is unthinkable -- it is unthinkable, and that's why it hasn't happened yet, and i don't think it will happen. grand jury materials are protected for a number of reasons, and it's imperative that they continue to be, not the least of which is i would be fairly certain they have something to do with john durham's investigation now. and the reason all the democrats are going bonkers in every direction because that investigation is over the target. and getting closer by the minute. lou: and when you say "over the target," what do you, what do you specifically mean? >> i mean that they are talking to the people that conspired to destroy this president and general flynn, and some people are cooperating, some may not

be. but i think they are within the realm of potential indictments sometime in the next few months, and that's got to happen to restore the rule of law in this country. lou: and nadler coming to support, if you can call whatever nadler does support no matter how he intends it, of emmet sullivan, this is starting to look like a web, if you will, amongst the legislative radical dems and, apparently, one sitting on the bench who we never suspected until, as you say, people started getting directly over the target, and that is the obama justice department officials and intelligence officials who are responsible for what has been a sorry effort and conspiracy to overthrow a president. >> i think mr.ed nadler's also upset -- mr. nadler's also upset because a strong group of house members and a separate group of

members of the senate filed briefs with the circuit court of appeals, the tease circuit, in support of the constitution principles and the rule of law with respect to the flynn petition. so he and his group did not do that, and he wants to make sure judge sullivan knows he supports his position -- [laughter] on this case which has no reference and bearing or support in the constitution. but that's not a problem for mr. nadler. lou: or any of the other radical dem, as they've demonstrated over the course the past, oh, three and a half years. as always, sidney, thank you very much. how soon do you expect a conclusion? >> ill think that the court of appeals is going to do something fairly soon. their order was very strong ordering the briefing. the issues are simple and straightforward and fully brief now from multiple amici and also the parties themselves, so they've got everything they need now to make a decision very

soon. i'm hoping within the next week or two at the outside. lou: and a very strong, strong advocacy at the correct position, your position, sidney powell, from the justice department. i know you've got to be gratified. congratulations. sidney powell, thanks so much. we'd like to hear your thoughts. share your comments, follow me on twitter @loudobbs like me on facebook and follow me on instagram at dobbs tonight. judicial watch's tom fitton and kt mcfarland among our gusts tomorrow. please join is us. -- guests tomorrow. later tonight, "the new york times" once again caving to the radical left. not a problem for them. we'll take it up with investigative reporter john solomon, "just the news," next. stay with us.

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♪ lou: "the new york times" again caving to pressure from the radical left, changing its headline that had been written as, "as chaos spreads, trump vows to end it now." that was deemed too favorable to the president, apparently. radical dems like aoc, julian castro ripping into the times for putting up such a favorable headline. so this morning the times' new headline read: "trump threatens to send troops into states." how about that? i don't see anything wrong with that headline, personally. attorney general william barr says john durham is investigating how russian operatives fed disinformation to former mi-6 operative and -- christopher steele. barr telling "the new york times" that robert mueller ignored the evidence altogether even though fbi was relying on steele's dossier to win the

warrant to spy on campaign aide carter page. barr also taking a shot at fired former fbi director james comey saying, quote: i think comey has cast himself as being seven layers above the decision making. i don't think that holds water. the record will be clear that that's not the case. former deputy attorney general rod rosenstein testifying tomorrow before the senate judiciary committee on his role in obamagate. we remind you that rosenstein is the one who appointed robert mueller as special counsel, signed the fisa warrant against former trump campaign aide carter page, signed the mueller scoop memo -- excuse me, memos, three of them -- on the steele dossier. and perhaps, perhaps really, really honestly wanted to wear a wire into the oval office to entrap the president. we'll find out, i'm sure, with that testimony tomorrow. joining us tonight, john

solomon, award-winning investigative reporter, editor-in-chief of just the news.com. john, good to have you with us. do you think rosenstein will come clean, admit to his role in spygate? >> well, i'd like to let him testify, but you can tell from his pre-testimony statement that he's going to acknowledge that there were both mistakes and possible corruption involved in the case. he made a excitement that effect late last -- a statement to that effect late last week. now, the question is will the buck stop with him, or will he try to push the blame down below. but i think tomorrow will be a dramatic day. i think we're going to hear from him whether he would still today appoint robert mueller if he knew -- if he knew then what he knew today, would he have are signed the fourth fisa warrant that was so flawed the justice department had to retract it eventually. those are some very important questions. and here's something i think i would watch for, rosenstein has not talked about his interactions with comey and mccabe. i'd like to though o know

what -- to know what his conversations and dealings were with the two leaders, because he could have influenced this picture. lou: i'd love to see those transcripts. it will be, as you say, interesting to hear what he has to say about it. john durham, zeroing in on christopher steele's receipt, perhaps, of a russian disinformation campaign document or two. that's going to be fascinating as well. what are we to expect there? >> well, there's two significants to this. one is, first, if the fbi knew there was russian disinformation and they told the court, which we now know they didn't, that's a problem in the fisa process, right? there's an abuse of the fisa process, an intention aal misleading of the fisa court. but i think there's a second area that john durham's looking at, and that is the intelligence community assessment and whether there was pressure applied and whether people have told the truth about how they came to the

assessment that russia was trying to help trump win and hillary lose are. and here's why that might be significant: if steele was being fed disinformation to tarnish the reputation of trump, it undercuts the entire intelligence community assessment that russia was trying to help trump. you wouldn't be undercutting trump if you were trying to help him. there's two very significant angles that he's looking at there. lou: and any idea as to when john brennan will be interviewed? will he be interviewed by the durham investigators? >> he may already have, we don't know that. but he seems to be a very important witness marley as it relate -- particularly as it relates to the intelligence community assess isment but also things that occurred earlier on. why did he send a letter or communication to james comey in the summer of '16 saying, hey, get a look at trump. that's not a cia director's normal job. so i would assume the justice

department's going to talk to him. the question is when, and we don't know yet. lou: and what do we know about the role of john durham in this and when we can expect -- suddenly it's the onset of summer, and we have been, well, led to believe that at the end of summer something might be coming down. attorney general barr making it clear he wasn't looking for a report, he's looking for something else, presumably charges. what do you know, what do you think? >> so from the people i've talked to, defense lawyers, law enforcement officials, others, there's been a significant amount of work already completed by durham. he's been going for a year. we sometimes forget that, but he's been going for a full year. there's a full, significant body of work that's already accomplished x i think they're at that stage where they're getting close to making charging decisions, cothey make -- do they make plea deals with people, will there be indictments, because they want

to get this done before the election season starts. ill expect the next 2-4 weeks be a very busy time for the investors, and we might see the first inklings of his work. perhaps a potential plea deal with a cooperating witness. lou: and what do you make of attorney general barr's remarks that he found james comey's pretense -- [laughter] my word, that he was somehow seven layers above the decision making process and all of this politically corrupt activity by the top officials of the fbi? >> listen, james comey is a micromanager, we saw that in the hillary clinton case where he decided to make the prosecuting decision. there's no chance that james comey got taken over the hill unknown. lou: john solomon, "just the news." thank you, sir, appreciate it. see you soon. john old mono. up next, new reporting on how long it took the chinese communist party to share

critical china virus information with the world health organization. dr. michael pillsbury, one of the country's topics perts on china -- experts on china. he is with me in one moment stay with us, we'll be right back with us, we'll be right back after these quick meseseses i didn't realize how special

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nearly all of the demonstrators and protesters and rioters who were arrested over the weekend. "the washington post" reports dozens of them went to court yesterday, their charges were dropped, they were released. some face other charges including burglary, destruction of property, violating curfew. we reached out to the u.s. attorney's office for the exact number of cases and individuals who have been, well, released but no province was with forthcoming. joining us tonight a man who wouldn't put up with that kind of nonsense, dan bongino, former secret service agent, former nypd officer and fox business contributor. dan, it is great to see you. it is stunning to watch this unfold across the country, and you don't have to be an intelligence agent to understand that this is orchestrated and organized and not is simply

opportunistic. this was well calculated, was it not? >> yeah. let me make a few points. on your first point on the d.c. mayor allowing them out, the antifa folks and others, lou, i know like me you're probably thinking, am i reading this right? so you're a liberal big city mayor, you've had a bunch of out of towner, suburban disgruntled kids who have decides to join a group that invades your city, attack your citizens, and you're letting them out of jail to do it again? just for the liberals watching, i misstate any of that? on your second question, which is a good one, you know, this is organized, lou. i can tell you from my best sources, people who were down there on the ground, on the front lines literally at times in hand-to-hand combat with these people at the white house, to be clear what i'm talking about, this was unquestionably an organized attack by previously identified, known antifa members and leaders of

this group. they used strategic tactics, they hit weak points of the house or what they thought were weak points. and when they got the officers in the secret service uniform division there, they moved and shifted to other spots as well. this was not a ragtag group of kids that showed up to cause trouble on saturday night. this was an insurrection, make no mistake. lou: well, i personally, you know, i think i agree with you 100% across the board as usual. what i have trouble with is coming to terms with city mayors, city councils, state governors who are just watching this happen. suddenly deciding they are just pottedded plants and they've got some kind of clients to permit lives to be taken, in point of fact in too many cases, police officers to be shot and all in the name of solidarity with a bunch of left-wing idealogues?

this makes no sense to me whatsoever. what do you make of it? >> lou, let me tell you a quick story f you don't mind. lou: not at all. >> i'm here with a a friend of mine, he came down to florida. a friend with significant law enforcement contacts. he's since retired, sometimes does some security work. these guys couldn't find jobs three weeks ago because of the coronavirus-induced economic disaster. their phones are ringing off the hook by terrified citizens of our -- these are -- i'm not liberal, i'm not getting into the politic, residents of new york city, i don't know if you're a liberal, a communist, a conservative, it doesn't matter. these are tax-paying citizens of new york city, lou, ringing off the hook, security agents desperate to get them to save their buildings, their stores, their livelihoods. i'm not making this up. this happened about an hour ago, called my friend, a pharmacy owner, begging him to get an armed security agent to prevent him from losing his entire livelihood because they're come

anything and steeling the oxycontin. -- stealing the oxycontin. can you explan to me -- explain to me how that's for george floyd? i mean w a straight face can you just tell me how this is helping at all in of course it's not. you're just inviting an insurrection. i don't yet it, why they won't take the giuliani approach and put their foot down. it's probably because they're afraid of negative media attention because they don't have the spine. they're jellyfish. it's pathetic. lou: they are all of those -- [laughter] elements you just described. and the president was correct about the governors. he talks with them over the weekend, and he was roundly criticized by the left, of course, for talking about them being weak and being furious with them the. with them. it's just stunning. and the reaction is more about, you know, whether his right ping pinky was in the air as he was picking up a cup of tea in the view of the left rather than the fact that the man has been right on every major policy decision he's ever made as president.

and they should be paying attention now. and i hope at some point they will. your thoughts as we wrap up here, dan. you get the last paragraph or two pages, if you wish. >> lou, i don't get it, you know? a week ago, a day ago, a minute ago we were told that president trump is not a control monarch, he's a tyrant, he's a fascist, he's taking over the country. now we'ring with told when he lets the governors handle their own states that president trump didn't do anything. and then when he steps up and talks to the governors and says, hey, listen, get your stuff together -- you know what i mean, if it wasn't cable, i'd use a different word -- these are american citizens, the meaned ya's complaining again. president trump was upset on the phone. i mean, it goes to show you why obey the bongino rule, 24-72 hours before you retweet anything by the left-wing media. it's probably a hoax, and you'll save yourself a lot of embarrassment. if you didn't hear it on fox, ignore it. i'm not kidding. it's usually a hoax.

stupid stuff. lou: i wish you were kidding. but as you say, in fake news and dumb news, fake and dumb, too much for me. dan bongino, thanks so much. good to see you, my friend. on wall street stocks finishing higher, the dow up 268 points, the s&p up 25, the nasdaq gained 56. volume on the big board, 5.2 billion shares. crude oil gaining more than 4%, it's up to $37 a barrel. how about that? and a reminder to listen to reports three times a day coast to coast on the salem radio network. up next, new details on how communist china kept the world unsuspecting about the advance of the deadly can china virus -- deadly china virus are. we'll take that up and more when we continue. stay with us.

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♪ ♪ lou: breaking news tonight, the associated press reporting china a delayed releasing critical information to the world health organization about the china virus for weeks. where have you heard that before? we were telling you about it in realtime on this broadcast. the chinese communist party, according to the ap, withheld the virus genome for a week after their scientists had

already mapped it out. we also had reported that to you. they also waited at least two more weeks to share detailed data about patients and cases leaving the w.h.o. officials -- are you ready for this word? -- frustrated. in january the w.h.o. chief of emergency, dr. michael ryan, told colleagues the best way to, quote, protect china -- yeah, that's his job, protect china, not the -- would be for the w..o. to conduct independent analysis. ryan admitted, however, china wasn't cooperating as other nations have. in a january meeting, the w.h.o. technical lead on the china virus said, quote: we're going on very minimal information. yes, you were, and you knew it. the w.h.o.'s top official in china complained the w.h.o. was getting information only minutes before it appeared on chinese state tv. despite china's pandemic cover-up expect w.h.o.'s

frustration, as they called it, the organization continued to publicly praise the chinese for its response to the virus, even calling the the chinese transparency, quote, very impress if i and beyond words -- impressive and beyond words. from the outset of the pandemic, president trump correctly stated the w.h.o. gave cover to china, and despite the overwhelming ed laid out by the ap, the news outlet ap refuses still to admit president trump was right and right all along. joining us tonight is dr. michael pillsbury, director of the center for chinese strategy at the hudson institute, author of "the hundred-year marathon." first, mike, your thoughts about the w.h.o. report by ap if which still seem -- which still seems to be a bit glossy, if i may say. your thoughts. >> well, it's a very good story from the associated press, lou. i thought that somebody inside the w.h.o. is leaking.

they're trying to explain just how much of a cold shoulder china gave the w.h.o., so this tends to suggest they're not as much in league as we thought. the w.h.o. itself has been tricked and deceived by the chinese. i was particularly impressed with the part of the story that the genome sequence china provided, they had it a full week in advance before they gave it to the w.h.o. and the public. that's really an important hold on something that would have told us a lot about the virus, lou. lou: absolutely. and the fact china lied, and they covered it all up, and they cost hundreds of thousands of lives across the world. it's outrageous. and for them today we hear them standing up saying, you know, the americans are just going to have to deal with an alternate

truth. your reaction to this hard-line posture by the communist chinese. >> i think president trump probably sees this across the board, lou. it's not just the w.h.o. and cooperation on the virus which is bad enough. they're particularly attacking secretary pompeo, calling him all kinds of names. the late in chinese is called a long-tongued woman, it's their word for a gossip or somebody who's lying all the time. so they're attacking individual members of the trump administration. they're also moving troops up in the january border area -- indian border area on the river cutting off a coastal river to india. so we see this in a couple other areas where president trump is going with them that they're -- negotiating with them that they're just not making any concessions. if anything, they're getting insulting, if i can use that word. they're kind of insulting in their responses. for hong kong, for example,

instead of progress, they got a petition for three million people to approve it, and they invited carrie lamb or summoned her to beijing tomorrow so she's going -- lou: that's right. you can bet she'll be -- >> [inaudible] lou: mike, we're going to have to take a quick break. we'll be back with michael pillsbury in just a moment. and we've got an an expression back in the days in texas, sometimes folks get too big for their britches that may be china. we'll find out talking with mike mornings were made for better things than rheumatoid arthritis or psoriatic arthritis. when considering another treatment, ask about xeljanz xr,

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♪. lou: well the chinese have made it absolutely clear that they're going to be tough as nails on every element of the relationship with the united states and the president has made it clear he will not put up with their nonsense. your thoughts, mike? >> i think there is problems across the board, lou. so some of the options the president has to escalate have to do with economics, finance, these are very scary to the chinese. they want their recovery to continue. they're bragging, lou, that their recovery is much faster than ours. growth rate back up and continue the program to surpass us. the president has number of things he can do in the financial area, including tariffs. lou: dr. michael pillsbury, thank you so much.

we appreciate it. that is it for us tonight. congressman andy biggs,. >> "judicial watch" tom fitton and kt mcfarland tom night. good night from sussex. elizabeth: tonight the country bracing for another night of violence. you're now looking at live shots, live video, it's happening now. protesters now taking to the streets in philadelphia and from the air you're looking at live shots of what is happening now in new york city after last night's chaos. at least seven cops shot at, four in st. louis, one in vegas, two in richmond, virginia. a retired cop shot in the head in st. louis. he is now dead. other cops hit with cars. now nine people, nine protesters and others dead in riots not seen in nearly 50 years, including the protests that br