fitton. that is it for us tonight. thanks for being with us. tomorrow congressman doug collins, dr. michael pillsbury among our guests. thank you for joining us. thanks for being with us tonight and good night from sussex. elizabeth: tonight protests are expected to again defy curfews where daily protests spread to 147 cities. you're looking at live pictures from los angeles and atlanta. more than 30,000 national guard troops deployed to 31 states plus washington, d.c. now this, at least 11 people now dead in the protests including four african-americans. at least 9300 arrested. more than 300 law enforcement officials injured in rioting to date. they have been shot at, thrown bricks at, hit with cars, also

property damage in minneapolis now approaching a billion dollars. this developing story. the minnesota attorney general elevating the charges against the former police officer accused of killing george floyd. now it's second-degree murder. and charging three other officers with aiding and abetting murder. tonight, we welcome former state department official chiron skinner on a new and deer russ debate taking hold across the country. the real crisis, the crisis america has in governing itself. the failure of leadership across america to stop rioting and protect innocent americans. are the media and politicians actually fueling the problems? we also have louisiana senator bill cassidy on the death of innocence and all-out war on law enforcement. conservative commentator kristin tate, how the media says she botched a major story involving the president and why the media has to get the story right now more than ever.

also house judiciary committee ranking member jim jordan with us tonight on the other big story today, the credibility of the trump russia probe took a major hit today. former deputy attorney general rod rosenstein admitted to senate judiciary in first of hearings to the botched russian probe he said this bombshell. rosenstein admitting there was no there there to begin with to start the russia probe. he admitted a lot more. so this debate, three years of political chaos, a president and administration, political party attacked and once united country dragged through the mud, a nation now divided and growing distrust of politicians abuse of power to attack their political opponents. i'm elizabeth macdonald. "the evening edit" starts right now. ♪.

elizabeth: thanks for joining us. you're watching the fox business network. let's get right to hillary vaughn with the latest developments from washington, d.c. hillary. reporter: liz, i talked to one african-american protester in his 20s who has been out here for the past five days on the streets protesting. i asked him what his reaction is to the news that minnesota officials are now charging the other three fired police officers that were involved in george floyd's death? he tells me it is proof that protesting here has made progress and has made a difference. the minnesota attorney general this afternoon, keith ellison announcing three officers, thomas lane, alexander keung and toothao. he told officers, crushing his back and neck, i can't breathe. derek chauvin the man on floyd's

neck is facing an increased charge of second-degree murder. >> george floyd mattered, he was loved, his family was important, his life had value. we will seek justice for him and for you. and we will find it. the very fact that we have filed these charges means we believe in them. reporter: while protests across the nation marked their ninth day, the president continued to push for a military presence on the ground to quell any violence. national guards men are here in d.c. from 10 states at nation's capital, protecting both the white house and also our national monuments. around the country, historic 74,000 national guard soldiers and airmen were activated for domestic operations. defense secretary mark esper overturned his decision to send couple hundred active duty soldiers home from d.c. after attending a meeting at the white house with the president today. esper himself is a former member

of the national guard. today he had a different view than the president over protest response, saying he does not support using active duty troops to get a handle on large-scale protest. >> shouldn't use active duty in law enforcement role should only be used as a matter of last resort and only in the most urgent and dire of situations. we are not in one of those situations now. reporter: liz, we are four hours from curfew here in d.c. it was pushed later to 11:00 p.m. tonight. past few nights it was 7:00 p.m. the thousands of protesters in the block gathering in the white house, they will have several more hours to protest before they will be breaking curfew. liz? elizabeth: thank you, hillary vaughn from washington, d.c. major story of the day, former deputy attorney general rod rosenstein getting grilling before senate judiciary. this is the first in a series of hearings taking aim at the problems, validity, the

credibility of the fbi probes into the trump campaign and mueller's trump russia probe. bass there a basis for it? turns out looks like rod rosenstein is saying and admitting no. two years ago rod rosenstein had lectured and pushed back when asked whether republicans might have legitimate reason to suspect the factual underpinnings of these probes but it was a different rod rosenstein today. >> nobody as ever been prosecuted for working with the russians. the point is, the whole concept that the campaign was colluding with the russians, there was no there there, in august 2017, do you agree with that general statement or not? >> i agree with that general statement. >> you signed a warrant application in june of, i think 2017 to get the carter page warrant renewed, is that correct? >> yes. >> okay. have you looked at the horowitz report? >> yes, i have, i have it with

me, senator,. >> if you knew then what you know now would you have signed the warrant application? >> no i would not. >> the reason you wouldn't have is because mr. horowitz found exculpatory information was withheld from the court, that correct. >> among other reasons yes, sir. >> do you think he was truthful to you? >> i believe, senator, mr. mccabe was not fully candid with me. certainly wasn't forthcoming. elizabeth: that was rod rosenstein in the final comment talking about andrew mccabe, fired former fbi official. here is what is happening, tomorrow, a vote out of senate judiciary about subpoenaing fired fbi officials james comey, andrew mccabe, also former cia director john brennan, former dni james clapper and others. but democrats also want to subpoena michael cohen, roger stone and lieutenant-general michael flynn. let's welcome in a fox business exclusive, back to the show, republican jim jordan, ranking member on house judiciary.

congressman, we love having you back on. your thoughts and reactions to today's hearing? what is your thoughts. >> not what he said, but who said it. rod rosenstein was deputy, number two guy at the justice department, the guy who signed fisa as you talked about discussed with senator graham. the guy who also named bob mueller as the special counsel. so this is, this is an important person who now says there was no basis for this whole darn investigation in his words, lindsey's words there was no there there. that to me is the big takeaway. the second big take way is that there somebody is not being honest, because when we, when we deposed jim baker, former chief counsel of the fbi he said rod rosenstein was serious between may 9th 2017 when comey fired and may 17th, when bob mueller are named special counsel, in that eight-day time frame rod rosenstein talked about wearing a wire. did in fact talk about the

25th amendment. so mccabe, baker, rosenstein, someone is not being honest with us. why senator graham and republicans want to bring in more people and get the whole truth. elizabeth: so is it your sense that rosenstein essentially said today, that the trump-mueller probe should never happened to begin with, that it was politicized and corrupt? >> he said that, by august 2017 we didn't have anything there. that reinforce what is jim comey told us when we deposed him in the house judiciary committee last congress. up until the time he was fired, we still didn't know if we had anything. understand, that means, after 10 months of investigating, because they started in july 31st, july 31st, 2016 after 10 months of investigating they didn't have anything, yet eight days later rod rosenstein named bob mueller as the special counsel. and we get two years, $30 million, 19 lawyers, 40 fbi agents, 500 subpoenas, all this that the country went through. when it is all said and done

they come back tell us, oh, wait a minute we should have never done this investigation in the first place because there was nothing there. elizabeth: yeah. peter strzok had texted i think in may of 2017 that there was no there there. you know, rod rosenstein broadened, sent out that broadened scope memo that basically said to the mueller team, go look into other things besides russian interference including lieutenant-general michael flynn about his non-criminal discussions with the russian ambassador. that set the stage for flynn's prosecution, right, sir? >> exactly. the at the time they realized there is nothing there, what did they do? rod rosenstein allows them to broaden the investigation and keep investigating as others have said, keep looking for a crime. we don't do it that way. that is not how it is supposed to work in our justice system this was wrong from the get go. i hope, i hope they do bring in jim comey. we talked a couple weeks ago, liz, jim comey is the central figure throughout owl of that.

jim comey who was guy traveling from the obama administration into the trump administration. he was the guy keeping this going. when he gets fired, he is the guy who prompts the special counsel he leaks memos, comey memos in an effort to get bob mueller named as special counsel. i hope they call in jim comey. i hope he is pressed hard ultimately get all the answers. elizabeth: congressman, you know, the doj inspector general found that the fbi was doing surveillance of the trump administration after president trump took office, after he was inaugurated. final word? >> yeah. again comey's in all the key meetings. he is there on january 4th, january 5th, january 6th, when he meets with obama on january 5th, january 6th, when he goes to trump tower to brief the president on the dossier he knows is false, that he knows is russian disinformation and he knows paid for by the clinton campaign. the guy sneaks the guy into the white house, priest step, to get

general flynn. i hope they bring in all the folks they are talking about. elizabeth: pientka and strzok. >> pientka and strzok. we asked them to talk to pientka. we hope christopher wray helps us out and makes mr. pientka available on the house side as well. elizabeth: he has been missing in action. congressman, great to have you on. good to see you. come back soon. >> we will, take care. elizabeth: for more on this, be sure to catch house intelligence member devin nunes, he will join us tomorrow night on "the evening edit" in a fox business exclusive. that will happen tomorrow night. come back for the show tomorrow night. coming back for the violence and riots, break down more detail about the at least 11 people now killed so far including at least four african-americans, like david patrick underwood and david dorn, career law enforcement officials, african-americans, shot, shot dead protecting people.

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david dorn, a retired 77-year-old african-american police captain. he had served 38 years on the force, fatally shot dead by looters and rioters in st. louis, missouri. also shot dead, david patrick underwood, a federal protection services officer in oakland, california. also shot dead. shot dead, david mcate e3 8-year-old chris beatty. former offensive lineman for indiana university. calvin horton was shot dead and james skurloc, a 22-year-old black man. four african-americans are now dead. at least 310 law enforcement officials injured. many of them seriously, many hospitalized. they have been shot at, bricks thrown at them. they have been hit with cars and other vehicles. welcome back to the show louisiana senator bill cassidy. we love having you on the show. reaction what you just heard. >> it is awful.

it shows you the original peaceful protests have been infiltrated by criminals and anarchists. we are with peaceful protesters. we agree the death of george floyd should not have happened but to see this movement, if you will, corrupted by those that seek to kill others does incredible disservice. we need to ignore on the latter two and focus on the first. elizabeth: yeah, you know. people are trying to say that if you criticize, rioting, looting, somehow that is criticizing the protests against what happened with george floyd. that is not the case. the story is, people are getting killed. jasmine kelly, 19-year-old sister of the italia kelly, recorded a facebook live video, sobbing, pleading for protesters and rioters and looters to stop. a protester stop my sister. you're so mad at the police you are hurting everyone else. david dorn, that retired police

officer shot in st. louis, he was trying to protect his friend's pawn shop. four cops shot that night in st. louis. 55 buildings, small businesses damaged and burglarized, looted. your reaction to that? >> so martin luther king, obviously, iconic in terms of fighting for civil rights spoke of the destructiveness of violence and riots, destroying property, self-defeating is how he described it. "wall street journal" today, an article about how african-american businesses mom and pops are destroyed and may go out of business forever. that is not positive for anybody, whatever your race, certainly not for the community where the rioters are most concerned ostensibly. i will say i don't think it is those protesting george floyd. when the mayor of atlanta, who spoke so well, if you're running down the street with a stolen gucci purse, you're not protesting george floyd. we know what she is saying. we're for the peaceful folks. we are against those who are

anarchists and against those who are criminals. elizabeth: about 310 law enforcement officials have been attacked, shot at and hit by vehicles. las vegas police officer shea is on life-support in critical condition. they're making poor neighborhoods, poorer. now senior citizens, minorities, can't get food or shop or can't get drugs or medications they need because small businesses have been burned to the ground, businesses owned and operated by african-americans and minorities. celebrities john legend, soccer player meghan rab -- rapinoe, they're signing a petition to get budgets for police departments cut. "new york times" ran an op-ed saying that. your reaction to that? >> i cannot believe that, i look at one of my hometowns, new orleans, where police are kneeling with the protesters in

prayer in jackson square before the cathedral for divine guidance how to go forward. this can be a partnership. the capital police in washington d.c., in a sign of solidarity with the peaceful protesters took a knee yesterday to signal that they did not approve of the death of george floyd. it was wrong. we all know it. we need to work in common towards a better future. that is the way to go forward, condoning, coddling, the criminals and the anarchists is terrible for the community, again to quote dr. martin luther king. and it is terrible for the movement to address the, to address the brutality and racism that the peaceful protesters are all about. elizabeth: senator bill cassidy, thank you so much for joining us tonight, come back soon. >> thank you. elizabeth: we have a whole lot more show coming up. stay right there. the first and only full prescription strength non-steroidal anti-inflammatory gel

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♪ elizabeth: welcome back. massachusetts attorney general moira healey, getting criticized saying that the rioting is quote, once in a lifetime opportunity and that quote, america is burning but that's how forests and trees grow.

healey added, quote i support calls for a revolution but not the revolution of violence in our streets. this is, saying this as 11 people are now dead including four african-americans. more than 300 law enforcement officials injured, shot at, hit by cars and bricks. let's welcome back to the show former state department official under mike pompeo, kiron skinner. always great to have you on. when you saw that statement from maura healey, what was your reaction? >> just more tragedy upon tragedy and yet again, if we just stop and take a deep breath, an african-american, george floyd had a white police officer put his knee on his neck as the life went out of him. those standing by did nothing. the reaction that was initial and the words coming from the floyd family encouraged us towards peaceful, non-violent protests. what's happening now is that the

reality of george floyd has been taken to a metaphor of putting the neck of the, knee on the neck of african-americans using the real pain of the race for many african-americans who are supportive of the american experiment, to pursue other objectives that have nothing to do with democracy, nothing to do with race, nothing to do with rights, nothing to do with justice. really, i find this deeply and personally offensive. elizabeth: kiron, minorities are getting slammed. cory, a black fireman in minneapolis, he spent his life savings to get a bar open. rioters burned that to the ground. rioters destroyed nearly 190 units of affordable housing in minneapolis set to open later this year. a billion dollars in damage in minneapolis. right otters making poor neighborhoods poorer. thousands of small businesses nationwide burglarized or

damaged. people in poor neighborhoods can't get things they need. your reaction to that? >> again, this is an attempt by racage that'stores, race provocateurs, race-baiters to use the tragedy before us all. we're unified as a nation on what the george floyd hurt means. it is an attempt to do something different which is to destroy our democracy and these aren't really african-american -- african-americans are suffering they're being killed but many of these doing the most violent actions are not african-american. we've got to look at anarchists in antifa, what they want to do. and how they're using race as a way, as an opportunity to do something that most african-americans would not support. most americans of goodwill would not support. there is an attempt to create binary opposite, it is black

versus white. it is the president versus protesters. it is this one versus that one. all these binary opposites are false. we see there is an attempt to really figure out a pathway forward. we can't get there if we have just mayhem and destruction and further death of african-americans at the hands of those who are just pure agitators? elizabeth: headlines from "the atlantic" magazine read this, quote, the double standard of the american riot, nationwide protests have been called un-american but rebellion has always been used to defend liberty. chris cuomo of cnn, don lemon saying this is like the boston tea party but there are so many mixed messages in there, because the patriots in the boston tea party, they didn't kill or attack businesses. they didn't devastate whole communities with rioting and looting. just look at some of the

devastation, the dallas small business owner, left for nearly dead after nearly being beaten to death. rochester, new york small businesswoman, seen on video getting beaten by rioters armed with two by four wooden planks. new york city cops hit by cars, thrown in the air, bronx cop attack. what is your take how the media is covering looting and rioting? >> it is really unfortunate playing into a set of narratives again that make these false binary opposites look like they are the american, america that we live in. and it's not true. i just wish there was some way to parse out who is doing what on the streets. many are there, young for the first time, trying to support a democratic america, exercising their first amendment rights. others are just purely radicalized. than there are other, members of faith communities as well. the media is focusing on the worst of the lot and saying this is what is happening in america.

it us absolutely not true. the president is being vilified. everyone is being vilified. there is blame to go all around but there is also a lot of hope. elizabeth: kiron skinner, you're terrific. thank you for having you on. thank you for your service to our country. kiron skinner there. next up conservative commentator kristin tate, kristin tate will take on the controversy of the lafayette park protest in washington, d.c. kristin tate will break down what really happened. that story is next.

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♪. the. >> the protesters were told three times over loud speaker, they needed to move. what happened, it grew increasingly unruly. there were project ills thrown at officers, frozen water bottles were thrown at officers,

and the officers had no other coast in that moment to act and make sure that they were safe and that the perimeter was pushed back. as we all know a church was burning in that very area the night before. elizabeth: getting it right in the coverage is key. admitting mistakes as is also important. media outlets reported that park police were unprovoked when they used quote, tear gas to clear lafayette park in washington, d.c., of peaceful protesters so the president could make his way to st. john's church which was burned by rioters. u.s. park police put out a statement, media coverage was totally wrong. protesters were attacking and throwing things like frozen water bottles. they were throwing bricks. they were throwing caustic liquids at cops. and not because of a visit by president trump to nearby church that had been set on fire the night before, but because the protesters were getting really

potentially violent. let's welcome conservative commentator kristin tate on the story. kristin, people at the protest, others say at the protest, by the way, welcome to the show. people say it was peaceful. they were coughing from a gas that was released but it wasn't tear gas. it looks like it was pepper balls and smoke canisters. that can be, that could cause people to cough as well. but seems like a lot of the coverage was wrong on this. what is your reaction? >> the media fell over itself this week trying to panic the american people with wall-to-wall coverage that donald trump supposedly tear gassed peaceful protest erstwhile he walked to st. john's church. those same journalists attacked the president for simply holding a bible in front of the church. don lemon looked into the camera told us all we're teetering on a dictatorship. only one problem, liz, which of course there was no tear gas. but these talking heads on msnbc and cnn, they can't be

inconvenienced with facts of the their goal is not to report the news. it is to further their left-wing, un-american agenda, you can see that agenda. it becomes crystal clear when you look what they are not reporting. where is the coverage of the numerous black business owners who have seen their dreams go up in smoke as their businesses have been looted and burned to the ground? where is the coverage of the inner cities that have been completely destroyed for the families who live there? where is the coverage and calls for justice for david dorn, the retired police captain that was murdered by a rioter? these anchors like don lemon and chris cuomo, they are so blinded by their hatred for donald trump, they are willing to look the other way when these horrible things happen. it us tearing the country apart. i have to say, liz i think people are waking up to how biased they are and not listening to these anchors anymore. elizabeth: let's show the statement. let's show what the park police

said in lafayette park. sergeant edward delgado, public information officer for the park police, confirmed they didn't use tear gas. something we even reported last night. we were wrong. united states park police acting chief gregory monihan put out a statement. bricks,s from enwater bottles, thrown at cops. they found baseball bats and poles nearby. mollie hemingway says the media coverage from "new york times," npr, washington pest, abc news, msnbc, they were all wrong on this. nancy pelosi and senate minority leader chuck schumer issued a joint statement attacking the president effectively was tear gassing peaceful protesters without provocation. the park police didn't even know, many of them said they didn't even know the president was going to the church. >> it is so sad, so many media

outlets are operating as arms of the dnc and trying to divide people. we need to come together. we need unity during this time. so luckily most americans have caught on to the bias and left-wing narrative. hopefully this time stronger list. elizabeth: kristin come back soon. >> thank you, liz. elizabeth: coming up, more fireworks at the senate judiciary hearing today, featuring former deputy attorney general rod rosenstein. critics debate how do the doj, fbi leadership, how do they go ahead with the trump russia probe when they had no growing evidence there was nothing? we have the question. was it politically motivated and tainted? we're bringing on former house oversight committee chair jason chaffetz next. stay right there. stroke

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♪. elizabeth: more on former deputy attorney general rod rosenstein. he testified today to senate judiciary. there were fireworks. watch this. >> the fisa court is saying we can't trust anything, but fbi says nobody is to blame for it. let me ask you, who should you hold responsible? >> i'm accountable. i'm here being chastised by you, that is part of my accountability but in order to solve this problem, yelling at me is not going to solve the problem. elizabeth: critics including john solomon, a journalist, now saying the justice department and fbi leadership failed to stop the trump russia probe in the face of growing evidence they didn't have the goods. even the lead fbi agent on the case, peter strzok texted in may 2017, just as rod rosenstein was getting mueller appointed as special counsel, strzok's tex said quote, there is no big there, there. rod rosenstein said the same.

he said the same. there was no there there. he said that at the senate judiciary hearing. was the probe politically tainted and politically motivated by the obama administration and funded by the hillary campaign and democrats? welcome to the show, former oversight chair and fox news contributor, jason chaffetz. love having you on. what is your take on that? is it a political hit job? >> if there is no evidence, what rod rosenstein is saying, if he had to do it over again he wouldn't have done it. that was stuffing stunning today, liz, what you saw. rod rosenstein deputy attorney general and acting attorney general, he say he didn't even read the application. nor did he fully read it or evidence behind it before presenting it to the court, but if he had to do it over again he wouldn't have done it. in essence he said he relied on the fbi. well the fbi lied to him then. they didn't tell him the truth.

they didn't give him the facts. they didn't give him the exculpatory information as required. for him to say, politely, you take accountability, somebody should be going to jail for this. you can't spy on another political campaign by improperly using police powers. i think it is just, it is stunning that that person in that role would say those things. i didn't read it. i didn't have the information. i wouldn't do it again. i'm accountable but the fbi lied to me. somebody has actually got to be held accountable. i think we'll get that with john durham and attorney general barr. elizabeth: you know, sir, you look at the body of evidence, it feels like they were ready to launch on the trump campaign even before the democrats emails were hacked. it feels like they were geared up and ready to go. the beginning of the probe was weak. last month conservative watchdog group "judicial watch" got the unredacted original fbi

electronic communication that launched the whole trump russia probe. it came out in july 2016. he only had a third hand suggestion of wrongdoing to start it. alleging advisor george papandreou was speculating with foreigners that the democrat emails were hacked. somehow that is going to be a foreign lobbying investigation? it seems weak from the get-go. >> yeah. it makes absolutely no sense. i think one of the most stunning pieces of evidence out there is that the department of justice never gave a defensive briefing to donald trump. they were giving defensive briefings to hillary clinton. but if they thought that there was somebody who was potentially subversive, somebody who was an agent of the kremlin, of russia, they have a duty and obligation to tell the candidate, then the president to be, and the actual president donald trump, but they never did that. i think that is a strong of evidence as any about their mind set that they will not let the

new leader of the free world know the information that he was supposed to be responsible for. there is no excuse for that not giving this defensive briefings. elizabeth: yeah. you know the other thing too, john saloman is reporting that u.s. intelligence knew back in 2015, five years ago that christopher steele, that they had information that russian intelligence agents were targeting christopher steele for russian disinformation, urging he be evaluated, reevaluated as an informant. that didn't happen. fbi and doj officials were told steele had a political motive, he hated donald trump was desperate to defeat him. they knew for five years this steele guy was not to be trusted, used the steele dossier, paid for by the clinton campaign and democrats to basically launch the trump russia probe and get fisa spying

warrants on trump campaign. i don't think a fiction writer could have written this. >> deputy fbi director andy mccabe who went on to become acting director of the fbi, he testified behind closed doors said without the dossier there never would have been a fisa application. so the court i think has not gone far enough to hold the department of justice accountable, and right now i got to it will you i think lindsey graham and what they're doing in judiciary is the beginning. it is the right thing to do. it is start of it but it really is going to come down to attorney general barr and mr. durham as they probe this. i think they're getting closer to the finish line. they need to wrap this thing up sooner rather than later. but there are people with subversive actions and flat-out lied. they doctored a document at some point that person needs to go to jail. elizabeth: congressman, great to have you on. come back soon. >> thanks, liz. elizabeth: coming up, right

otter joshua lawson, put it this way, torching and looting businesses like targets, wal-marts or discount stores hurts single moms working two jobs. it hurts minorities trying to build up a resume'. it hurts recent high school graduates who can't afford college or can't pay tuition, they have to work multiple retail jobs as long as they can between classes. "the washington times" opinion editor charles hurt, he is going to weigh in on this story next. but what we can do it be a partner that never quits. verizon is the most reliable network in america. built for interoperability and puts first responders first, giving their calls priority, 24/7. we do what we do best so they can too.

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♪. elizabeth: writer joshua lawson put it this way, when you torch and loot companies like target the, walmarts or discount stores you're hurting single moms working two jobs, hurting minorities building up a rest may or making enough money to go to college. he is putting it very bluntly that you make poorer communities poor when you do things like looting and rioting. welcome back to the show, "washington times" opinion editor, charles hurt. when you heard all of that, what was your reaction? >> it is really incredible to look back at the last week. i cannot think after time in america in recent times when

america was more unified in their sadness, outrage what happened to george floyd. it is absolute travesty of justice. the only way to destroy that unity is to do what some of these rioters or all of the rioters, but some of these protesters have managed to do in the streets over the past week. the idea that you would take something like this, something, a tragedy like this, and turn it into an opportunity to exploit and make for your own personal political on financial gain is the most disgusting thing that you could possibly do. and it actually, it really genuinely hurts the country. this was a moment where everyone was in agreement that this was a terrible thing. now the next step is, what do we do about it? how do we fix it? everybody wants to clip in and figure out how to fix it. and these people, go out here and change the subject, distract from all of that goodwill and instead, we see night after

night of footage of our cities burning and people's property being destroyed. elizabeth: right. yeah, they robbed a unifying moment, looters did, unifying moment for america. watch chris cuomo of cnn, ali from msnbc, writer from "new york times" explaining away rioting and violence. some have compared it to the boston tea party. let's listen to this. >> please, show me where it says that protesters are supposed to be polite and peaceful? i can show you outraged citizens are the ones who made america what she is an led to any major milestones. be honest this, is not a tranquil time. >> destroying property which can be replaced is not violence, and to put those things, to use the exact same language to describe those two things i think really, is not, it is not moral to do that. >> i want to be clear in how i

characterize this, this is mostly a protest. it is not, it is not generally speaking unruly, where fires have been started but a crowd relishing that. there is a deep sense of grievance and complaints here. that is the thing, when you discount people who are doing things, destroying public property that they shouldn't be doing, it does have to be understood this city has got, for the last several years an issue with police and it has got a real sense of grievance of inequality. elizabeth: charles, does wanton, devastation, does it help those grieving george floyd? or does it poor assault on wounds of a nation already suffering? >> absolutely. it is all of those things, but more even worse, it actually hurts the people, it hurts the people, that all of us would like to see lifted up out of this tragedy. it hurts those people directly. and you know, no, you don't have to be respectful and polite as a

protester but you're not allowed to break the law. you're not allowed to hijack a situation for your own personal financial gain. you're not allowed to shoot retired cops on the street because you're mad about something. if you're mad about it, have a protest, that's great. everybody is 100% in favor of the protests. that's not the problem here. the problem is when you start burning people's stores, their livelihoods are destroyed, you start killing people, you start throwing bricks at people, that is where you have a real problem and that is not permissible. and for these people to sit here and try to equate the too is an abomination. elizabeth: charles hurt. >> thank you so much for coming on the show. we appreciate your insight. come back soon. >> you're welcome. >> i'm elizabeth macdonald. you've been watching the "the evening edit" on fox business. that does it for us. we'll be back tomorrow night

with a whole lot of news. more show for you. thank you so much for watching. we hope you have a good evening. . "lou dobbs tonight" starts right now. have a great day, everybody. ♪ lou: good evening, everybody. the left-wing nationwide demonstrations went on last night, and there were far more police and national guard on streets, and the result was as intended; there were far fewer protests that turned violent. we'll show you how the demonstrations expected tonight across america are shavenning up. and there are -- shaping up. and there are developments in the murder case that started all the protests, peaceful and violent, crimes and looting over the past ten days x. this breaking news: prosecutors in minnesota have added second-degree murder to the charges against derek.