thanks for being with us. tomorrow congressman doug collins, dr. michael pillsbury among our guests. thank you for joining us. thanks for being with us tonight and good night from elizabeth: tonight, protesters expected to again defy curfews as daily protests have now spread to at least 140 cities. you're looking at live pictures right now from los angeles and atlanta. more than 30,000 national guard troops have now deployed to 31 states plus washington d.c. now this, at least 11 people now dead in the to protests including four african-americans. at least 9300 arrested. more than 300 law enforcement officials injured in rioting to date. they've been shot at, thrown bricks at, hit with cars. also property damage in

minneapolis now approaching a billion dollars. this developing story, the minnesota attorney general elevating the charges against the police officer accused of killing george floyd. now it's second-degree murder x. charging three other officers with aiding and abetting murder. tonight we welcome former state department official kiron skinner on a new and serious debate taking hold across the country. a real crisis, the crisis america has in governing itself. the failure of leadership across america to stop the rioting and protect innocent americans. are the media and politicians actually fueling the problem? we also have tonight louisiana senator bill cassidy on the death of innocents expect all-out war on law enforcement. plus, conservative commentator kristin tate on how the media, she says, botched a major story involving the president and why the media has to get the story right now more than ever.

also house judiciary committee ranking member jim jordan with us tonight on the other big story today, the credibility of the trump-russia probe took a major hit today. the former deputy attorney general rod rosenstein admitting to senate judiciary at the first of a series of hearings into the botched trump-russia probe, he said this bombshell: rosenstein admitting there was no "there" there to begin with to start the russia probe, and he admitted a lot more. to this debate, three years of political chaos, a president and administration, a political party attacked and a once-united country dragged through the mud, a nation now divided and a growing distrust the of politicians' abuse of power to attack they are political opponents. i'm elizabeth macdonald, "the evening edit" starts right now. ♪ ♪ elizabeth: thanks for joining us. you're watching the fox business

network. let's get right to hillary vaughn with the latest developments from washington d.c. hillary? >> reporter: liz, i talked to one african-american protester in his 20s who's been out here for the past five days on the streets protesting. i asked him what his reaction to the news that minnesota officials are now charging the other three fired police officers that were involved in george floyd's death. he tells me it is proof that protesting here has made progress and has made a difference. the minnesota attorney general this afternoon, keith ellison, announcing the three officers -- thomas wayne, al lander and tieu taw are being charged with aiding and abetting george floyd's murder. those three officers were at the scene hovering over floyd in the minutes leading up to his e death where he told officers crushing his back and neck, i can't breathe. derek chauvin is now facing an increased charge of

second-degree murder. >> george floyd mattered. he was loved. his family was important. his life had value. and we will seek justice for him and for you, and we will find it. the very fact that we filed these charges means that we believe in them. >> reporter: while protests marked their ninth day, the president continues to push for a military presence on the ground to quell any violence. national guardsmen are here in d.c. from ten states at the nation's capital protecting both the white house and also our national monuments. around the country an historic 74,000 national guard soldiers and airmen were activated for domestic operations. defense secretary mark esper overturned his decision to send a couple hundred active duty soldiers home from d.c. after attending a meeting at the white house today. esper himself is a former member of the national guard. today he had a different view than the president over protest

response saying he does not support using active duty troops to get a handle on large scale protests. >> use active duty forces should only be used as a matter of last resort and only in the most urgent and dire of situations. we are not in one of those situations now. >> reporter: liz, we are four hours from curfew here in d.c. it was pushed later to 11 p.m. tonight. the past two nights it's been 7 p.m. which means the over 1,000 protesters gathered here in the block leading up to the white house are several more hours to protest before they'll be breaking curfew. liz? elizabeth: thank you so much, hillary vaughn, from washington d.c. now to the other big, major story of the day. former deputy attorney general rod rosenstein getting a grilling before senate judiciary. this is the first in a series of hearings taking aim at the problem, the validity, the credibility of the fbi probe

into the trump campaign and mueller's trump-russia probe. was there a basis for it? turns out looks like rod rosenstein is admitting no. two years ago he had lectured and pushed back when asked whether republicans might have legitimate reason to suspect the factual underpinnings of these probes. but it was a different rod rosenstein today. >> nobody's ever been prosecuted for working with the russians. the point is the whole concept that the campaign was colluding with the russians, there was no "there" there in august 2017. do you agree with that general statement or not? >> i agree with that general statement. >> you signed a warrant application in june of, i think, 2017? to get the carter page warrant renewed, is that correct? >> yes. >> okay. have you looked at the horowitz report? >> yes, i have. i have it with me, senator. >> if you knew then what you

know now, would you have signed the warrant application? >> no, i would not. >> and the reason you wouldn't have is because mr. horowitz found that exculpatory information was withheld from the court, is that correct? >> among other reasons -- enter do you think he was truthful to you? >> i believed, senator, that mr. mccabe was not fully candid with me, he certainly wasn't forthcoming. elizabeth: that was rod rosenstein in the final comment talking about andrew mccabe, fired form former fbi official. tomorrow, a vote out of senate judiciary about subpoenaing fired fbi officials james comey, andrew mccabe, also former cia director john brennan, former dni james clapper and others. but democrats want to subpoena roger stone and lieutenant general michael flynn. let's welcome in a fox business exclusive back to the show republican jim jordan, ranking member on house judiciary.

congressman, we love having you back on. your thoughts and reaction to today's hearing? >> yeah, it's not just what he said, it's who said it. remember, rod rosenstein was number two guy at the justice department, the guy who signed the fisa as was discussed with senator graham there. the guy who also named bob mueller as the special counsel. so this is, this is an important person who now says there was no basis for this whole darn investigation. in his words, there are -- lindsey's words, there was no "there" there. that, to me, is the big takeaway. and, of course, the sec big takeaway is somebody's not being honest. because when we deposed jim baker, the former chief counsel of the fbi, he said rod rosenstein was serious between may 9th, 2017, when comey's fired and may 17th when bob mueller's named potential counsel, in that eight-daytime frame that rod rosenstein did, in fact, talk about the 25th amendment.

so mccabe, baker or rosenstein, someone's not being honest. and that's why senator graham and the republicans want to bring in more of these people and get the whole truth. elizabeth: so it your sense that rosenstein essentially said today the trump-mueller probe should never have happened to begin with, that it was politicized and corrupt? >> yeah. he said that. by august of 2017 he said we didn't have anything there. in fact, that reinforces what jim comey told us when we deposed him last congress, he said up until the time he was fired, we still didn't know if we had anything. so understand, that means after ten months of investigating d -- because they started on july 31, 2016, after ten months they didn't have anything. and yet eight days later rod rosenstein named bob mueller as special come. and we get two years, $30 million, 19 lawyers, 40 fbi agents, 500 subpoenas, all this and when it's all said and done

they come back and tell us, oh, wait a minute, we never should have done this investigation in the first place because there was nothing there. elizabeth: yeah. and peter strzok had texted, i think in may of 2017, that there was no "there" there. rod rosenstein sent out that broaden scope memo that basically said to the mueller team, go look into other things besides russian interference including lieutenant general michael flynn about his non-criminal discussions with the russian ambassador. that set the stage for flynn's prosecution, right, sir? >> yeah, exactly. at the time they realize there's nothing there, rod rosen sty allows -- rosenstein to keep investigating and to keep looking for a crime. we don't do it that way. that's not how it's supposed to work in our justice system. this was wrong from the get go. i hope they do bring in jim comey, because i think we talked a couple weeks ago. jim comey is the central figure throughout all of this. jim comey was going to travel from the obama administration

into the trump administration. he was the guy who was going to keep this going. when he gets fired, he's the guy who prompts the special counsel because he leaks those memo, the comey memos all in an effort to get bob mueller named. so i hope he is pressed hard so we can, ultimately, get all the answers. elizabeth: yeah. and, congressman, you know, the doj inspector general found that the fbi was doing surveillance of the trump administration after president trump took office, after he was inaugurated. final word. >> yeah. comey's in all these key meetings, he's there on january 4th, january 5th, january 6th, when he meets with obama on january 5th, january 6th when he dose to trump tower to interview the president, and then comey's the guy who sneaks the guys into the white house to set up general flynn. so i hope he's the one that they bring in, and i hope they bring in all those folks they're talking about.

and, again, get -- elizabeth: pientka and strzok. >> exactly. those are the -- elizabeth: yeah. >> and we've asked, we've asked to talk the pientka. we hope that christopher wray helps us out and makes him available for us to talk to on the house side as well. elizabeth breath he's been missing in action. congressman, good to see you. >> take care. elizabeth: for more on this, be sure to catch house intelligence ranking member devon nunes. he will join us tomorrow night on "the evening edit" in a fox business exclusive. that's going to happen tomorrow night. come back for the show tomorrow night. coming up, back to the violence of the riots, we're going to show you more detail about at least 11 people now killed so far including at least 4 african-americans. like david patrick underwood and david dorn, career law enforcement officials, african-americans shot, hot dead protecting people.

shot dead. republican senator bill cassidy about how to end this cycle of violence, how to stop the more than 300 attacks now on law enforcement, the need for messages of unity and hope. the story next. ♪ ♪ very struggling period of time. up and down. depression to exuberance. and you could name many, many cycles like that over the years. my generation, having come through so many wars and so many things... persistence. it's the heartbeat of this country. stick with it. ♪

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77-year-old african-american police captain. he had served 38 years on the force, fatally shot dead by looters and rioters in st. louis, missouri. david patrick underred wood, a services officer in oakland, california, also shot dead. david macatee, 22-year-old natalia kelly, chris beatty was a foreman defensive lineman. calvin horton and james secure lock, a 22-year-old black men. again, four african-americans now dead. also this, at least 310 law enforcement officials injured, many of them seriously, many hospitalized. they've been shot at, bricks thrown at them, they've been hit with cars and other vehicles. let's brick in and welcome back to the show louisiana senator bill cassidy. senator, your reaction to what you just heard. >> it's awful. it shows you that the original

peaceful protests have been infiltrated by criminals and by an anarchists. we are with the peaceful protesters. we agree the death of george floyd should not have have happened. but to see this movement, if you will, corrupted by those who seek to kill others does an incredible disservice. we need to ignore the latter two and focus on the first. elizabeth: yeah. you know, people are trying the say that if you criticize the rioting, the looting, somehow that's criticizing the protests against what happened with george floyd. that's not the case. the story is people are getting killed. jasmine kelly, 19-year-old sister of -- she recorded a video, she's sobbing and crying pleading for the protesters and rioters to stop. quote, a protester shot my sister. you were so mad at the police that you are hurting everyone else. and david dorn, the retired police officer shot in st. louis. he was trying to protect his

friend's pawnshop. four cops shot that night in st. louis. 55 buildings, small businesses damaged and burglarized and looted. your reaction to that. >> yeah. so martin luther king, obviously, i mean, iconic in terms of fighting for civil rights, spoke of the destructiveness of violence in riots. destroying property, self-defeating, is how he described it. "wall street journal" today article about how african-american businesses, mom and mom and pops, have been destroyed and may go out of business forever. that is not positive for anybody, whatever your race, but certainly not for the community in which these rioters are most concerned. i would say i don't think those who are protesting george floyd, when the mayor of atlanta who spoke so well said that if you running down the street with a stolen gucci purse, you're not protesting george floyd. we're for the peaceful, folks. we are against the an a around

keyses and the criminals -- anarchists and the criminals. elizabeth: about 310 law enforcement officials have been attacked, hot at and hit by -- shot at and hit by vehicles. las vegas police shea nicolonas was on life support, he's in critical condition. also they're making neighborhood poorer. now senior citizens, minorities can't get food, they can't get the drugs and medications they need because small businesses have been burned to the ground. businesses owned and operate by african-americans and minorities. but, you know, sir, senator, celebrities john legend, jane fonda, they're reportedly signing a petition to get the budget for police departments cut. "the new york times" also ran an op-ed saying that. your reaction to that? >> i cannot believe that. i look at my hometown, one of my hometowns, new orleans, where the police are kneeling with the protesters in prayer in jackson square before the cathedral for

divine guidance as to how to go forward. now, this can be a partnership. the capitol police in washington, d.c., in a sign of solidarity with the peaceful protesters, took a knee yesterday to signal that they did not approve of the death of george floyd. it was wrong. we all know it. we need to work in common towards a better future. that's the way to go forward. condoning, coddling the criminals and the anarchists is terrible for the community. again, to quote dr. martin luther king, and it's terrible for the movement to address the brutality and the racism that the peaceful protesters are all about. elizabeth: senator bill cassidy, thank you so much for joins us tonight. -- joining us tonight. we've got a whole lot more show coming up. stay right there. our new home. neighborhood's great. amazing school district. the hoa has been very involved. these shrubs aren't board approved.

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♪ ♪ elizabeth: welcome back. massachusetts attorney general maura haley now getting criticized for saying that the rioting is a, quote, once in a lifetime opportunity and that, quote, yes, america is burning, but that's how forests and trees grow.

healey added, quote, i support calls for a revolution but not the revolution of violence in our streets. she's saying this as 131 people are now -- 11 people are now dead, including 4 african-americans, more than 300 law enforcement officials injured, shot at, hit by cars and bricks. let's welcome former white house official kyron -- what was your reaction? more tragedy upon tragedy. and yet again if we just stop and the take a deepen breath, an african-american, george floyd, that had a white police officer butt put his knee on his -- put his new on his neck. those standing birdied nothing. the reaction that was -- by did nothing. thee reaction that was initial expect words from the floyd family encourage us toward peaceful,ts nonviolent protest. what's happening now is that the

reality of george floyd has been taken to a metaphor of putting the neck of -- the knee on the neck of african-americans using theng real pain in the race for many african-americans who are supportive of the american ec appreciate to pursue other objectives that have nothing to do with democracy, nothing to do with race, nothing to do with rights, nothing to do with justice. really i find this deeply and personally offensive. elizabeth: kiron, minorities are getting slammed, a black fireman in minneapolis, he spent his life savings to build -- to get bar open. rioters burned that to the ground. rioters destroyed nearly 190 units of affordable housing in minneapolis set tomi open later this year. a billion dollars in damages in minneapolis. rioters are make poor a neighborhoods poorer. thousands of small businesses nationwide burglarized or

damaged. people in poor neighborhoods can't gett the things they need. your reaction to that? >> again, this is an attempt by race agitators, race baiters to really use the tragedy that's before us all -- and we're unified as a nation on what the george floyd murder means. it's an attempt to do something different, which is toer troy or democracy. -- destroy our democracy. and these aren't really -- african-americans are suffering, heir being killed, but many of these who are doing the most violent actions are not african-american. and we've got to look at the an anarchists and antifa, what they want to do and how they're using race as a way, as an opportunity to do something that most african-americans would not support, most americans of goodwill would not support. elizabeth: yeah. >> it's an attempt to create a binary opposite, it's black versus white, it's the president

versus i the protesters, it's ts one versus that one. all these binary opposites are false. what we see is there is multiavailable a peaceful movement. -- multiracial. there's an attempt to really figure out a pathway forward. we can't get there if we have just mayhem and destruction and further deaths of african-americans at the hands of those who are just pure agitators. elizabeth: you know,? the headline from the atlantic magazine read, quote: the double standard of the atmerican riot. the nationwide protests have been called un-american, but rebellion hasas always been used to defend liberty. you know, chris cuomo of cnn, don lemon saying this is like the boston tea party, but there's so many mixed messages ot there because, you know, the patriots of the boston tea party, they didn't kill or attack businesses. they didn't devastate whole communities with rioting and looting. i mean, just look at some of the devastation, you know, the

dallas smallbu business owner lt for nearly dead after nearly being beaten to death. the rochester, new york, small businesswoman seen on video getting beaten by rioters armed with 2x4 wooden planks, a bronx cop was attacked. atu know, so what's your take on how the media's been covering the looting and the rioting? >> it's been really unfortunate, playing into a set of narratives, again, that makes these false binary opposites look like they are the america that we live in, and it's not true. i just wish there was some way to parse out who's doing what on the streets. many are there -- young, for the first time -- trying to support a democratic america, exercising their first amendment right. others are just purely radicalized. they're members of faith ocmmunities as well. the media's focusing on the worst of the lot andhe saying ts is what is happening in america. and it's absolutely not true.

which, you know, the president's being vilified, everyone's being vilified. there's blame to go all around, but also there's a lot of hope. elizabeth: kiron skinner, you're terrific. we loveir having you on and thak you for your service to our country come back soon. nextki up, key commentator kristin tate isn going to take n the controversy of the lafayette protests in washington, d.c.. she's goingis to break down what really happened. that story next. . ta-da! did you know liberty mutual customizes your car insurance so you only pay for what you need? i should get a quote.

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♪ >> the protesters were told three times over loudspeaker that they needed to move, is and whatat happened was it grew increasingly unruly. there were projectiles being thrown atea officers, froans war bolts were being thrown at officers k and officers had no other choice than in that moment

to act and make sure that they were safet and that the perimetr was pushed back. because as we all know, a church was burning in that very area the night before. elizabeth: okay. getting it right in the coverage is key, admitting mistakes as well also important. media outlets reported that park police were unprovoked when they used,or quote, tear gas to clear lafayette park in washington, d.c. of peaceful protesters so thece president could make his y st. john's church. but the park police said that media coverage was totally wrong. protesters with -- were attacking and throwing things like frozen water bottles, bricks, caustic liquids at cops. and not o because of a visit by president trump to a nearby church that had been set on fire the night before, it's because the protesters were getting really potentially violent.

let's welcome conservative commentator kristin tate on the story. kansas citien, now, people at -- kristin, others at the protest -- by thehe way, welcome to the show. they were saying it was peaceful. they were coughing from a gas thatro was released but it wasnt tear gas. it looks like it was person balls and smoke canisters. that can be -- can cause people to cough as well. but it seems like a lot of the coverage was wrong on this. what's your reaction? >> yeah.h. iathe media fell over itself ths weeko trying to panic the american people with wall to wall coverage that donald trump supposedly tear gassed peaceful protesters while he walked to st. john's church. those same journalists then taked the president for simply holding a bible in front of the church. don lemon looked in the camera and told us all we are tiahrting on a dictatorship. there was no tear gas. but these talking a heads on msnbc and cnn, they can't be

inconvenienced with facts because theirir goal is not to report news, it's to further their left left-wing, un-american agenda. you can see it when you look at a whatt they're not reporting. where is the coverage of the numerous black business owners who have seen their dreams go up in smoke as their businesses have been looted and burned to the ground? where is the coverage of the inner cities that have been completely destroyed for the families who live there? where's the calls for justice for the retired police captain that was murdered by a rioter? these anchors like don lemon and chrisom cuomo, they are so blind by their hatred for donald trump that they are willing to look the other way when these horrible things u happen. it is tearing the country apart. i have to say these people are waking up to how biased they are, and they're not listening to these anchors anymore. elizabeth: let's show the statement, let's show what the park police said what happened. i hear what you're saying.

sergeant edward delgado, public information officer for the park police, o confirmed they didn't use tear gas. manager that even we reported last night, we were wrong. united states park police acting chief gregory monaghan put out this statement. watch what he says here, kristin. bricks, caustic liquids, frozen water bolts, also they found fable bats and metal polls. now, molly hemingway of the federalist points out the media coverage from npb, new york times, nbc news, msnbc, they were all w wrong on this. and nancy pelosi and senate minority leader chuck schumer issueded a joint statement attacking the president saying he effectively was tear gassing peaceful protesters without provocation. the park police didn't know, many of them are saying they didn't know the president was going to the church. >> it's so sad. so many of these media outlets are operating as arms of the dnc

and trying to divide people. we need to come together the, we need unity during this time. so luckily, most americans have caught on to the bias and the sleft-wing narrative and, hopefully, we n will come out of this time stronger, liz. we need to come together right now. elizabeth: kristin tate, thanks for joining us. come back soon. >> thank you, liz. elizabeth: coming up, we've got more fireworks at the senate judiciary hearing today featuring former deputy attorney general rod rosenstein. critics now debate how did the doj, the fbi leadership, why did they with the trump-russia that probe when theyea had growing evidence they didn't have the goods? rosenstein admit that today. we'reid going to talk about the next line of questioning, was the hearing politically motivated and tainted? we're bringing on jason chaffetz next. stay right there. ♪ ♪ so, for a second time we're giving members

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♪ ♪ elizabeth: more on former deputy attorney general rod rosenstein. he testifieded today to senate judiciary. there were fireworks. watch this. >> thehe fisa court is saying we can't trust anything the fbi says, butbi nobody's to blame fr it. who should weeme hold responsib? >> i'm accountable. i'm here being chastised by you, and that's part of my accountability. but in order to solve this problem, yelling at me is not going to a solve the problem. elizabeth: okay. critics including john solomon, he's a journalist, they're now saying that the justice department and fbi leadership failed to stop the trump-russia probe in the space of growing evidence they didn't have the goods. even a lead fbi agent on the case, peter strzok the, texted in may 2017 just as rod rosenstein was getting mueller appointed as special counsel, strzokou texted, quote: there'so big account there" there. and rod rosenstein said the same

today. he saidd it in the senate judiciary hearinged today. so was the probe politically tainted and motivated? as a hit job by the obama administrationin funded by the hillaryal clinton campaign and democrats? let's bring back into the show former house oversight chair and fox news contributor jason chaffetz. we love having you on. a what's your take on that? is it a political hit job? >> well, if there was no evidence, is what rod rosenstein is saying, that if he had to do it over again, he wouldn't have done it, i mean, it really was stunning what you sawed today, the liz. not only did rod rosenstein who was the deputy attorney general, then the acting attorney general say he didn't even fully read the. application, nor did he lok at the evidence behind it, but that if he had to do it over again, he wouldn't is have done it, in essence, he relied on the fbi. well, they lied to him then. they didn't give him the facts, theyth didn't tell the truth.

they didn't give him the exculpatory information as required. so for him to say, you know, politely, you know, i take accountability, somebody should be going to jail for this. you can't pie on another political -- spy on another political campaign by improperly using police powers. i think it's just, it's stunning that that person in that role would say those things. i didn't have the information, accountable, but the fbu lied to me. somebody that is actually -- needs to a actually be held accountable. and i think we're going to get that with john durham and william barr. elizabeth: it feels like they were ready to launch on the trump campaign each before the democrats' mails were -- e-mails were hacked. i mean, the beginning of the probe was weak. last month a conservative watchdog group, judicial watch, otgot the unredacted original fi

and electronic communication that launched the whole trump-russia probe. it came out in july 2016. he only had a thirdhand suggestion of wrongdoing to state, alleging adviser george papadopoulos was speculating with foreigners that the democrats' e-mails were hacked, and somehowow that's a foreign lobbying investigation? it seem weak from the get go. >> yeah, somebody who is -- yeah. it makes absolutely no sense. i think one of the most stunning pieces of ed out there is that the -- evidence of out there is that the department of justice never gave a defensive briefing to donald trump. they were giving defensive briefings tot hillary clinton, but if they thought there was somebody who was potentially subversive, somebody who was an agent of the kremlin are, russia, they have a and obligation to tell the candidate, then the president to be and the actual president, donald trump, but they never did that. and i think that's as strong of evidence as any about their mindset that they're not going to let the new leader of the

free world know the information that he was supposed to be responsible for. there's no excuse for not giving those t defensive briefings. elizabeth: yeah. and, you know, the other thing too is john solomon is reporting that u.s. intelligence knew back in 2015, five years ago, that christopher steele, that they had information that russian intelligence agents were targeting christopher steele for disinformation, urging he be evaluated, reevaluated as an informant. that didn't happen. fbi, doj officials also were told steele had a political motive, that he hated donald trump. to they d knew for five years tt this steele guy was not to be trusted, but they used his dossier paid for by the clinton campaign and democrats basically to launch the trump-russia probe and get wiretaps on the trump campaign. i mean, i don't think a fiction

writer could have written this. >> well, the deputy fbi director, andrew mccabe, who went on to become the acting director of the fbi, he testified behind closed doors and said that without that dossier, there would have never been a fisa application. so the court, i think, has not gone far enough to hold the department of justice accountable, and right now i gotta tell you i think lindsey graham and what they're doing in judiciary is the beginning. it's the start of it, but it really is going to come down to attorney general barr and mr. durham as they probe this. i think they're getting closer to the finish line. they need to wrap this thing up sooner rather than later, but there are people with subversive actions and flat-out lies. i mean, they doctored a document at some point that. person needs to go to jail. elizabeth: congressman, great to have you on. come back soon. >> thanks, liz. elizabeth: coming up, writer joshua lawson put it this way:

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♪ ♪ elizabeth: okay. writer joshua lawson put it this way: when you torch and loot company like targets, wal-marts or discount stores, you're hurting single moms, you're hurting minorities trying to make enough money to go to college. heath putting it pretty bluntly that you're make poorer communities poorer when you do things like looting and rioting. let's welcome back to the show washington times' opinion editor charles hurt. charles, when you heard all that, what was your reaction? >> well, it's really incredible the look back at the last week, you know? i cannot think of a time in america in recent times when america was more unified in their, their sadness, their

outrage over what happened to george floyd. it's an absolute travesty of justice. the only way to destroy that unity is to do what some of these rioters or all of the rioters, but some of these protesters have managed to do in the streets over the past week. the idea that you would take something like this, something -- a tragedy like this and turn it into an opportunity to exploit and make for your own personal political or financial gain is the most disgusting thing that you could possibly do. and it actually, and it really genuinely hurts the country. this was a moment where everyone was in agreement that this was a terrible thing. now the next step is what do we do about it, how do we fix it, and everybody wants to chip in and figure out how to fix it, and these people go out here and change the subject, distract from all of that goodwill. and instead we see night after

night -- elizabeth: right. okay. >> -- footage of things burning and people's property being destroyed. elizabeth: right. yeah,, they robbed a unifying moment for america. watch chris cuomo of cnn, america snbc and a writer for "the new york times"es explaining away the rioting and the violence. some of them have compared it to the boston tea party. let's listen to this. >> please, show me where it says that protest are suppose to be polite andnd peaceful? i can show you that outraged citizens are the ones that have made america what she is and led to many major milestone. be honest, this is not a tranquil time. >> destroying property which can be replaced is not violent. and to put those things, to use the exact same language to describe those two things, i think, really is not, it's not moral to do that. >> i want to be clear how i characterize it. this is, mostly a protest.

it is not, generally speaking, unruly, but fires have been started, and there'sut a crowd that is relishing that. there is a deep sense of grievance here at play, and when you discount people who are doing things to public property that they shouldn't be doing, it avdoes have to be understood tht this city has got for the last several years an issue with police, and it's got a real sense of a deep sense of grievance of inequality. elizabeth: charles, this wanton devastation, does it help those grieving george floyd? or does it just -- >> no, absolutely -- elizabeth: -- pour salt on the wounds of a nation that's already suffering? >> absolutely, it's all of those things. but even worse, it actually hurts the people, it hurts the people that all of us would like to see lifted up out of this tragedy. it hurts those people directly. and, you know, no, you don't is have to be d respectful -- haveo

be respectful and polite as a protester, but you're not allowed to break the law. you're not allowed to hijack a is situation for your own personal financial gain. you not allowed to shoot retired cops on the streetee because you're mad about something. if you mad about it, protest. that's great. everybody is 100% in favor of the protests. that's not the problem here. the problem is when you start burning people's stores, their livelihoods are destroyed,re you start killing people, you start throwingng bricks at people, that's where you have a real problem. and that is not permissible. ander for these people to sit he and try to equate9 the two is an abomination. elizabeth: charles hurt, thank you so much for coming on the show. we appreciate your insight. come back soon. i'm elizabeth mac donald. you've been watching "the evening edit" on fox business. that does it for us. we're going to be back tomorrow night with a whole lot of news,

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