solomon. great to have you, john. thanks so much. rnc rare ronna mcdaniel joins us tomorrow. former national security advisor kt mcfarland. congressman jim banks. thanks for seeing us tonight. see you tomorrow. good night from sussex. elizabeth: stocks surging into the close ending the day on the green on confidence and optimism coming back. much stronger than expected economic data on home building retail spending and more. news the trump administration is preparing a one trillion dollar infrastructure plan including for also news that a steroid drug can cut by a third or even half, those on ventilators and oxygen. forecast after strong june jobs report, mark today, did we turn the corner today? optimism and hope now growing america is maling and fixing

itself. america also saying enough, local governments. stop dictating how we live. let us handle it. democrats are fighting to capitalize on covid-19 and protests. tonight we welcome acting dhs deputy secretary ken cuccinelli in a fox business exclusive on president trump's new executive order on police reform. breaking down what it means for the men and women on the thin blue line keeping america safe and also democrats now attacking the president's new order even though they have the same measures in their own bill. plus va secretary, white house covid-19 task force member robert wilkie on house republicans now probing five democrat governors including governors, cuomo, whitmer, newsom for state policies that forced nursing home to take back in covid-19 recovering parents. republican steve scalise says

this was a quote, death sentence for tens of thousands. also harmeet dillon joins us on the u.s. supreme court letting stand a california century law as california defund the police movement risks a ratcheting up on crime. jason chaffetz weighs in on president trump slamming media double standard, tweeting far left media had no covid problem with rioters and looters destroying democrat-run cities, and trying to shame president trump rallies. he is fired up on this one. breaking news. the justice department filed a complaint in federal court over john bolton over his upcoming book about the trump white house. we have that. we'll talk to louisiana senator bill cassidy about that and much more. i'm elizabeth mcdonald. "the evening edit" starts right now. ♪.

elizabeth: welcome to the show. you're watching the fox business network. let's get right to hillary vaughn with the latest in washington. hillary? reporter: liz, president trump signing an executive order, really the first step following weeks of protests to make decisions vice president biden men even tried to fix this during their eight year period. reporter: here is what is in the president's executive order. new standards for use of force, including a new certification process, incentives for departments to adopt best practices for use of force, information sharing a federal registry that tracks police officers that have complaints excessive use of force and

bringing in assets from the community to help police deal with domestic and social issues many time they're not equipped to deal with. mental health experts homelessness and addiction of the president mentioned working on getting less lethal weapons to help police to help them contain threats when needed. the president says this order goes hand in hand what senator tim scott from south carolina will introduce tomorrow. they tell me there are three parts to the plan. first reform. measures to end chokeholds. second accountability, more funding for de-escalation training and including a duty for a police officer to intervene and third, transparency. more funding for body camera programs. source familiar with this bill tells me qualified immunity at this point is off the table. i'm told changes to this rule essentially healeds police officers from being sued for what happens in the field was a hard no for the white house there is also a coverings about allowing decertification process

for police officers who violate the law that will not be included at all. the senate isn't just looking at ways though to crack down on bad cops on the street but they're also looking at rewarding good cops. senator tom cotton released a bill if passed would reward police officers through an award titled, better community policing award and then those that get it would get a cash reward out of a 5 million-dollar fund. they would get nominated through their department and ultimately the u.s. attorney general would choose the awards recipients. liz? elizabeth: hillary, thank you for your reporting. great to see you, my friend. okay, america is now on the move, fixing and healing itself. look at this. 2/3 of american households expect to be back at work in the next 30 days, according to the covid-19 impact surveys backed by the minute minute federal reserve. as you just heard president trump signed a new executive action on police reform. it does not defund police

budgets. cities in at least 10 states including minnesota, arizona, texas, new york, california, florida, already also moving on police reform. watch this. >> this is a big deal, sean. you're exactly right when you say for eight years president barack obama and vice president joe biden couldn't get it done but take as businessman like president trump to come in to say how can i do this creatively in a way that protects police officers. elizabeth: let's welcome acting homeland security secretary ken cuccinelli back with us in a fox business exclusive. it is great to have you back on sir. >> liz, good to be with you. elizabeth: they're saying, good to be with you again. democrats are saying republicans are cherry-picking. what this is is irrelevant but i'm looking at democrat measures. a lot of what they're proposing is in this executive action and legislation? >> yeah, part of what makes it so viable is that much what the president is leading on here has bipartisan support.

now you do have people literally just attack anything president trump does because president trump led the way and the president is leading the way here. he is leading the way on higher standards while still protecting police officers who are doing their jobs. he is leading the way on the information sharing that will help raise the quality of police across the country. and avoid bad apples getting rehired elsewhere. he has taken step after step here, again leading thehis oppoy object to. they don't object to the substance what the president advanced here which are all great proposals. they object to the fact that president donald trump is the one who advanced them. elizabeth: you know, the democrats want to take back the white house, the senate and state legislatures but they have been pushing on the defund the police kind of angle to it. that that push. harvard professor roland friar, he is an african-american, he is

out with new research says don't do that you do that, you defund america's cops. you well cost thousands of black lives. you will kill thousands of black and african-americans. voices across the country, you talked about this too, secretary, rogue cops do not represent vast numbers of honest police officers on the thin blue line. you take that on. >> not at all. i served as virginia's attorney general. i've been to funerals for police officers including one of my very good friends who was killed because he was a police officer. we lost 89 police officers in the line of duty last year and yet they arrested 12,000 murders, 25,000 rapists and 1 1/2 million people who assaulted other americans. they are protecting us and they are doing a 99.9% good job of it. does that mean there isn't room for improvement? of course not. and that is exactly what the president said today. but that doesn't take away from the fact that men and women of

every color and every race put on that uniform and strap on a gun every day and put themselves in harm's way between you and me and evil, which does exist in our society. and we need protection from that. they're willing to do it day in, day out. do they make mistakes? of course everybody makes mistakes but when it becomes an extreme like officer chauvin in minneapolis where there was no reason for that. it was obvious, he could have seen it himself, that is where corrective action needs to take place. i appreciate the president encouraging officers like those other three officers in minneapolis to step in and not just the misbehaving officer to complete whatever it is he is doing. the president took that step, just like in criminal justice reform. he took a step that is predecessors were unwilling to take. they were only willing to talk about it. he is willing to act. and to move the ball forward.

both for police officers and for the quality of policing and keep communities safe. as you said, liz, the communities that benefit the most in that are actually disproportionnally minority. they need police to protect them more. elizabeth: you know, we've tracked census bureau data, about 1/3 of police officers are minorities. >> yes. elizabeth: only 4% of, excuse me of local budgets, 4% of local budgets go towards police funding. we had 800 police assaulted. four african-americans killed in the line of duty. i like your take on that. talk about these sound bites, is the u.s. systematically racist, is there systemic racism inside of the united states. let as listen to this. watch. >> of course not. i've seen systemic racism

growing up. we are so much better than that now. do we still have racist people? of course. you know, you're always going to have people who think superficially and don't think deeply but, you know, that esn't mean that the whole system is corrupted and needs to be changed. >> president obama, first black president, was elected twice and he got 79 million white votes, 79 million in two elections. now therefore i find it hard to understand something called systemic racism. lizabeth: let's watch representative democrat ayanna pressley of massachusetts on this subject. watch this. >> this is the thing. everyone will say, you know, i'm not a racist. yeah, great. that is not good enough. what you need to be is anti-racist and that means being intentional and deliberate and unapologetic in dismantling

structural racism and systemic oppression. not being afraid to call it what mit is, white supremacy. elizabeth: your reaction, ken? >> well, certainly i am antiracist but i would certainly agree with larry kudlow, you know, he put data on it, right? 80 million, 79 million americans voted for president obama. they didn't, that's, that is not out of 300 million. right? that, he got over half the vote. so that is a strong example. i live in the state where doug wilder became the first black governor back before 1990, elected black governor and we have come a long way. i agree with dr. carson. a very smart man, a brain surgeon smart man. and he points out our history. we don't deny our history but we have come a long way. we have room to improve. the president is helping us do that today.

elizabeth: ken cuccinelli, thanks for coming back on, sir. >> good to be with you liz. elizabeth: great insights there. come back soon. same here. coming up president trump slamming the media saying they have a big double standard going soft on rioters and looters when it comes to covid knit. the president wants to quote, covid shame the rallies for his upcoming campaign. we'll bring on house oversight chair, former house oversight chair jason chaffetz. he is fired up about this one. stay right there. don't understand why. because our way works great for us! but not for your clients. that's why we're a fiduciary, obligated to put clients first. so, what do you provide? cookie cutter portfolios? nope. we tailor portfolios to our client's needs. but you do sell investments that earn you high commissions, right? we don't have those. so, what's in it for you? our fees are structured so we do better when our clients do better. at fisher investments we're clearly different.

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♪. elizabeth: welcome back. president trump calling out the media for a double standard for saying that the president should cancel his rally in tulsa, oklahoma this saturday. the president tweeting quote, the far left fake news media which had no covid problem with the rioters and looters destroying democrat-run cities is trying to covid shame us on our big rallies. while media criticism grows that the president should yes, cancel his rally. watch this. >> it would be extremely challenging to have an indoor mass gathering, be safe in the current environment. we know there are going to be cases there. there is likely an exposure there. think about the health department contact tracing team will have to go to work trying to identify who was in contact with whom. that is why i think as we move forward as we start to get back to normal life, mass

gathererrings even those indoors will be challenging and very hard to keep safe and that will be at this rally. elizabeth: let's welcome former house oversight chair jason chaffetz. reports coming, in one million people may want to express interests. they are asking the trump campaign to move to larger venue. what is your take on the media criticism here? >> first of all donald trump is attracting record crowds. no way joe biden can come close to doing that. that is part of the genesis of their shaming the president on this when they haveal saw the "new york post" put up the picture showing what is acceptable and not acceptable. there is a clear double standard there. so at this point people know the rest. they know when they're supposed to do but at the same time, the president can gather and if people want to come out do that,

people have their own liberty and make their own choices. they don't need some yahoo! on the media to tell them oh, you shouldn't do this by the way you show up at a riot or get together in downtown seattle, hey, that's just fine. elizabeth: you know, you brought up joe biden. there is criticisms of his mistakes and gaffs he is making though not yet out on the campaign trail. i want you to listen to this. i'm going to ask you after the sot montage, what will happen after the lockdowns end and joe biden comes back out on the campaign trail? here is what happened lately with joe biden. listen. >> even dr. king's assassination did not have the worldwide impact that george floyd's death did. you know the rapidly rising and with, with, i don't know.

even if none much her, none of her, her employees had children back home were worried about anything, spreading anything people are not going to come in. what enables them, not everybody, not going to come in. but what you can do,l you're right about near term, you can begin to be able to get help in terms of a business where you can go online and say, send me your prescription, i can have it filled. this is how we'll do it. i'm getting bored by my own talk here of the. it is not fair. the constitution says all men and women are created equal. elizabeth: it was declaration of independence that said that the constitution. and by the way, internet online drug prescriptions are booming multibillion-dollar business. does it matter, sir, who he selects for vice president? talk is val demmings or kamala

harris, who his veep choice matter? >> oh, it does. look at his gaffs. he is the comfort of his living room with teleprompter, doesn't get any easier than that. when he gets out on the campaign trail, i don't think he is going to win but at the same time who he picks at the vice president, pivotal, absolutely pivotal for him. elizabeth: who do you think he should pick? >> if i had to guess he will probably pick the mayor of atlanta. i think she is probably the front-runner. new, nobody really knows her. she gave a stirring speech in the midst of the riots but if i had to guess right now i think it will be the mayor from atlanta. elizabeth: congressman, great to have you on. thanks so much. love you, straight shooting talk there. next up, we'll talk to senator bill cassidy of louisiana about the backstory of president trump's niece and her new memoir condemning the president. also the justice department moving against john bolton. we have the action on that. the story next.

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♪. elizabeth: welcome back. to the backstory president trump's niece, mary trump, her new memoir condemning the president. involves family fights over

lawsuits, wills, family fights over canceled health insurance and more. we'll dig into the details. the book is called, too much, never enough. it will hit the shelves weeks before the republican national convention, reportedly mary trump will reveal how she was the one who gave "the new york times" confidential financial information about the president's taxes and his getting $400 million in help from his father. also this. the justice department has filed a complaint in federal court against the release of john bolton's tell-all book. on the cover of that book, john bolton reportedly says, game on. welcome louisiana senator bill cassidy. great to have you back on, senator. first your reaction to the justice department complaint against the bolton book? >> first as a rule i'm not against people publishing book. i don't know if there was a non-disclosure agreement. i assume that was bases of the lawsuit. if there was a non-disclosure agreement he shouldn't write it.

but if there isn't, he has right to write it. elizabeth: they say there is classified information and could threaten national security. the criticism of john bolton, he could step in front of a camera now and talk. i think he has interview with abc news coming up. your reaction to that. >> it's a little bit of a teaser, generate interest in the book. bolton is pretty smart guy, he is media savvy. there is a strategy here. elizabeth: okay. to the backstory of mary trump. she is the daughter of the president's older brother fed trump, jr., he passed away from a heart attack linked to alcoholism. what is going on here goes back at least 20 years. we're digging into the details. mary trump and her brother did sue president trump and his siblings over money left to them in a will by trump's father. mary trump and her brother also sued after the trump organization canceled their medical insurance. this is bad blood that goes back 20 years, senator. >> bad love. speaking after strategy i read

the book will be for $28 on amazon. that is nice price for a book. so a little teaser just before the convention, all the people that hate trump i promise it will get great reviews in certain newspapers. there is a strategy there too to sell a book which of course you don't know if it is true or not. if the strategy is to sell a book. elizabeth: you know, senator, president trump did cite his brother's personal problems as behind his administration's push for tackling opioid addiction. mary trump also effectively, essentially is a hillary clinton supporter. so you know, your points are well-taken what you're saying there. i want to move on to this. can you tell us more about what is going on' in louis? i hate to switch gears on this -- louisiana. the u.s. now reopening. looks like the day we may have turned a corner. positive economic news. tell us about what is going on in louisiana when it comes to covid-19? so louisiana reopened. the peak has passed.

if you look at new orleans, i saw some data today. we peaked and now we're down flat. there frankly has not been contact tracing to the degree that has been recommended but they notice most of the people dying came from nursing homes. they circled nursing homes, checking people in and out of work. they have been able to markedly decrease the incidents in new orleans. i read about the president's rally in oklahoma. it really depends where your cases are. if your cases are in nursing homes and that's where it is isolated and overall general risk is low, then it is a low risk for a rally. so to condemn it without knowing the data is kind of condemning for the sake of corn dem nation not because you know the data. elizabeth: mit came out with a study. looks like half of the covid-19 deaths could have been prevented with better nursing home policies. senator, thank you for coming on. we love talking to. >> you thank you. elizabeth: rnc -- harmeet

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♪. elizabeth: the u.s. supreme court let stand a lower court ruling upholding california's sanctuary law. it restricts local police from helping federal authorities round up and deport people who are in the country illegally. talk about it with rnc committee woman for california, harmeet dhillon. your reaction to this? great to have you back on.

how does this fit in with the push in california to defund the police? >> this is really scary for those of us in california who believe in law and order, liz. what we have in california a sanctuary state policy that has multiple parts and the trump administration challenged all of those parts. they won on one of them at the ninth circuit. the government appealed that. now the basically the situation is that the state of california has barred law enforcement and other people from cooperating with federal authorities to enforce our immigration laws. that includes trying to capture criminals or accused criminals who may have committed rapes, human trafficking, drug dealing, assaults, mainly, by the way targeted at immigrant communities. so this is really bad situation. add on to that defunding the police and it is in those liberal jurisdictions like oakland where the mayor, libby schaaf, warned wanton criminals who are illegal aliens they should flee in the wake of an

i.c.e. raid that we're promoting lawlessness in california. federal government needs to look at other things to do to step up enforcement to keep us safe. elizabeth: harmeet, it is confusing, because it seems like it makes exceptions for serious criminal cases those involving a judicial order but you can never tell if an illegal immigrant cops here in the u.s. and will in the future commit a crime. there are only 7% of the u.s. population but 2/3 of federal arrests, right? >> well, the problem that you really put your spinninger -- finger on the problem, the problem the law says if there is warrant out for person's arrest that the authorities can cooperate in that circumstance but it's a chicken and egg. somebody came here illegally. they committed a crime. they are not in the system. the government is being trained in california to look the other way. so how is the federal government supposed to know? in some counties sheriffs who do believe in law and order are posting names of people who are about to be released from their jail facilities where now a lot

of our petty, lower level criminals are actually held in local county jails and not in prisons because of prison overcrowding. so that is a way if i.c.e. were properly and fully staffed, alert, they could be waiting outside of the jail to pick these people up. so that would actually involve the federal government increasing funding and deployment of i.c.e. resources. when you think about it, having a lot of i.c.e. officials roaming around is actually scarier to the general public ing cooperation between your regular law enforcement. the argument that democrats make here in california is that we, that it is intimidating to illegal aliens but i think law, a lack of law enforcement is intimidating to everybody. elizabeth: you know, what's going on at the border is stunning. we've been researching it. in just the past week, in texas alone, border officials arrested a gang member, three child sex offenders, seized nearly 3,000-pounds of hard drugs worth $10 million.

also harmeet, four illegal immigrant ms-13 gang members. ms-13 gang members from central america, arrested, charged with murdering a 29-year-old man in maryland. so this is still a huge problem. let's show the viewers the number of crimes being committed by illegal immigrants. harmeet, as we were talking 2/3 of federal arrest, criminal illegals arrested by the federal government, a quarter of all drug cases, fraud cases property crime cases. your reaction? >> the problem all criminals should be prosecuted and it is outrage just state authorities shield them, shield a portion of them from prosecution. it makes all of us less safe. elizabeth: so what is going to happen with california and the defund the police push? >> i think it is actually going to happen in a lot of our coastal liberal communities, san francisco, oakland, los angeles, san jose, some big cities are going to do that.

people are fleeing the cities. that is what is hapning. elizabeth: harmeet dhillon, thanks for joining us. appreciate it. come back soon. >> you're welcome. elizabeth: coming up va secretary, white house covid-19 task force member robert wilkie on house republicans now probing five democrat governors including governors cuomo, whitmer and newsom for forcing nursing homes to take back into their nursing homes covid-19 states, covid-19 patients this is happening in their states. now republican steve scalise says this was quote, a death sentence for tens of thousands. va secretary robert wilkie next in a fox business exclusive want to brain better? unlike ordinary memory supplements neuriva has clinically proven ingredients that fuel 5 indicators of brain performance. memory, focus, accuracy, learning, and concentration. try neuriva for 30 days and see the difference.

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♪. elizabeth: well the numbers are disturbing. covid-19 fatalities in nursing

homes and long-term care facilities has now topped 50,000. accounting for four out of 10 of the total u.s. covid-19 fatalities and more than a quarter million have been infected in nursing homes. this is according to "the wall street journal." and now this, five republican members of the house oversight committee now investigating five democrat governors including new york governor cuomo, michigan's governor mitt her and california's governor newsom mandating nursing homes take back in covid-19 patients in their state. republican steve scalise says this was a quote, death sentence for tens of thousands. let's welcome in a fox business exclusive va secretary robert wilkie. he sits on the white house covid-19 task force. these numbers are disturbing, sir. your reactions to republicans probing these governors now?

>> well i think it's the beginning, liz of a long overdue national conversation on how we treat the most vulnerable in our population. you know at va we made the decision long before the rest of the country knew what was coming to take drastic measures to protect our veterans, 7500 veterans in our 134 nursing homes. as of this morning of those 7500 we have three veterans across the country who have tested positive for the covid. we actually issued on march 17th to most of the states guidance on things like infection control and care for the elderly. we felt that was an important part of our duties for the nation but as the president said yesterday, we need to get to the bottom of what happened, particularly when it comes to those thousands and thousands of senior citizens across the country who were not served well. elizabeth: what do the democrat

governors do wrong? they are again gavin newsom, andrew cuomo, phil murphy, gretchen whitmer, tom wolf, republican steve scalise and jim jordan you have to get back to us by june 18th. we know about governor cuomo's march 25th order, nursing homes you have to take back in recovering covid-19 patients. the nursing homes could not even test those treated for covid-19 to see if they were infected again or still contagious. what else did they do wrong? >> well i think what they did wrong they didn't have the proper procedures in place and i can't speak to all of the conditions across the country but what i've seen, particularly in state-run, veterans nursing homes where we actually went in to help the states with their state veterans populations, things like infection control and separating sick patients from unhealthy patients. a lot of those protocols were not followed.

again, at va, we treat every nursing home patient as we would treat an accuse care patient in our hospitals. we have oxygen running into the rooms. we have medicine running into the rooms. we have multiple doctors and geren to gifts on each ward. we treat veterans in our nursing homes very differently and i do believe in those states they were overwhelmed and they did not follow the procedures that we know are in place. they know, we know they have access to, to take care of those very vulnerable citizens. elizabeth: you know, the cdc is saying that we would not have allowed, we did not recommend taking back in recovering patients into nursing homes. even governor cuomo himself once called this threat like fire through dry grass. in florida, florida said no, you're not going to take covid-19 patients back into nursing homes. look at this. less than 2% of their 73,000 residents in the nursing homes there passed away of the virus.

so is it common sense? is that what matters? now the republicans are saying what was your science, what was your information that you had that said yeah, do this? >> so, let me tell you what we did. i think you're absolutely right. it is common sense. that first week of march we cut off our nursing homes, sadly, to visitors and families of our veterans. more than half of our 7500 nursing home residents come from the world war ii and korea era. we had to, to protect them. we had to deprive them of the sustenance of their families. we tested regularly, not only veterans but our employees. those employees on the front lines. in so doing we were able to cordon off our nursing hopes from the outside and as i said earlier today, we saw as of this morning we have three infections, three covid positive patients in our 134 nursing homes. i think we've set the path for the rest of the country to follow but, liz, you are right,

just as you are in most of your business observations that common sense really is the foundational way to go here and i don't think in many cases it was, it was followed. elizabeth: mr. secretary, my family will be very -- i'm grateful for your kind words to me i don't deserve them but i care about the va. i will reveal something personal. we had family members who fought on my mother's side, my step grandfather's ancestor, his great-grandfather, fought for the union army in the civil war. we have had family members, i never knew my grandfather. he died from world war i due to mustard gas complicates. we had family members fight in the vietnam war, gulf war one and gulf war two. my family would be angry with me talking personally about this, but we like to keep tab what is you're doing at the va. that is why we love having you back on. thank you for your service to

our country. >> i thank you always reaching out. thank you, liz. elizabeth: sure. up next global cases of covid-19 now over eight million. look at this. latin america notably, brazil is now the number two hot spot in the world and concerns are growing among border officials, that the southern border, if it is not upheld, a second wave of covid-19 could hit the u.s. and hit it hard. human rights activists say america should take in more illegal immigrants who are sick with covid-19. we'll drill down into the bottom of all of this with a federalist senior editor christopher bedford next. i'm greg, i'm 68 years old. i do motivational speaking

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♪. elizabeth: global cases of novel coronavirus hit over eight million as latin america, notably brazil, is now the number two hot spot in the world. this as concerns grow among border officials that illegal southern border crossers could trigger a second wave here in the u.s. as human rights activists say the u.s. should take in more criminal illegal border crossers who are sick with covid-19! while the true impact of the pandemic south of the border is

likely far greater due to a lack of widespread testing in latin america. let's welcome "the federalist" senior editor back to the show, christopher bedford. christopher, looks like, we've been reporting, trying to get out in front of this, this looks like a growing problem. your reaction? >> basically there is no end to what different people on the left-wing activist community are willing to use covid-19 to justify or not justify. so a lot of law-abiding citizens are not allowed to go to church, not allowed to meet with their families, allowed to bury their dead as a family, bury loved ones, military members, criminals are released from prison, illegals detained by i.c.e. should be released from their jails. more people taken in by coronavirus of the it is an unending list of demands and bans that come across in the last few months. our scientists should learn a lot of this but we shouldn't be too afraid of the disease. the problem is the disease is

already here. it is everywhere. it will not come from south america. sections might increase but the border has more security, still not gray at all. that is not the main concern americans should have. the border security, however that is a major concern. elizabeth: well covid-19 is highly infectious, asymptomatic maybe in 35% of people who have it, so it is a concern, it can get people really sick, no? >> so far, it was terrifying concern when covid was first appearing on the horizon. we were predicting 3 and 6% death rates. since then i think a lot of governors and mayors and different localities have had to reevaluate the reaction that we've had as a nation outside of major cities like new york city, to how much of a shutdown we put into this, how much we allowed fear to govern our policies on this. now i'm not saying should takes in illegal immigrants who have covid-19. i think the country owes the duty to its citizens first but

it is not keeping me up at night like it was in march. elizabeth: i hear what you're saying. chris, if you're still with me, listen, two times as many lives could be saved, mit says, if you focus resources on those most vulnerable. your reaction to basically the trump administration reinforcing the border with canada and the southern border? europe, the president is getting blow back on that but you know, europe has said no to visitors from the u.s., from asia, from latin america, from the middle east into europe. so europe doesn't face criticism while the u.s. does for doing things like that. your reaction? >> the traffic between mexico and united states and canada is unlike anywhere else we have on the planet. however if they were really concerned about this, before we have rapid testing there really shouldn't be a lot of international travel in general

not necessary or not for trade. elizabeth: okay. your reaction to reports coming in that google might be taking steps, the reports are conflicted here, against conservative media, maybe "the federalist," maybe pushing "the federalist" off the ad platform at google, saying that "the federalist" was notified, the site is not blocked yet. it has to do with comments section on "the federalist" where you work at, where people were criticizing the protests. can you break down what is going on here? >> well i can tell you for certain that there has been a massive reaction on behalf of "the federalist" and allies on capitol hill, allies in the media saying this is flat-out wrong to try to censor us. this is ham-fisted attempt by nbc news to try to censor. i think it will be sorted out very quickly. elizabeth: all right. so what happened? was it comments section on "the federalist" talking negatively about the protests? what triggered this at

"the federalist" with what happened with google possibly moving to ban you guys? >> that is the current plan from google right now, that that is what triggered it. we got an op-ed coming out tomorrow from two of our founders ben and sean daves and how they dealt with this, what really happened but for right now i can say for certain nbc news changed their story. google was very, very quick to shut it down. question whether or not google is actually on the side of truth in this matter or whether google is in retreat after a very clumsy attack. they're blaming the comments section. elizabeth: christopher bedford of federalist. got you. i hear you on that. christopher bedford of "the federalist," thank you very much for joining us. really appreciate it, sir. >> thanks for having me. >> okay, i'm elizabeth macdonald. you have been watching "the evening edit" on fox business. that does it for us. thank you so much for watching. we open hope you join us again tomorrow night and we hope you have a good evening